@walloftruth: PC gaming is not for everyone so it's only natural that some people are going to prefer cheap and easy but you can't argue that a maxed PC isn't stronger still. It's not even a debate, it's just how PC's have been from the beginning.
Not from the beginning. In the beginning PC gamers were playing adventure games in CGA (or just plain text) with annoying beeps for 'sound' while other gamers were playing games on the Amiga or ANY console that pissed all over everything on PC.
PC is performance king in gaming now, you're right it's not even a debate, but it was nothing more than a joke to start with. For a very very long time PC gaming was absolutely the worst and incredibly sub standard compared to everything else. Modern PC gamers would do well to realise gaming would have died a horrible death had it been left to PC's to further the industry. Consoles created gaming, PC is a 'me too' alternative that is the very best right now but for the longest time was absolute shit.
wow PC version superior to consoles. More news at 11..
DO people actually expect a console version of a multiplat to be superior? That only happens when a developer/publisher completely disregards PC & doesn't give a shit, there's no limitations to the platform so there's really no excuse for it not to be better.
Console users are just jealous, they dont want to admit that pc is simply superior, we have better games, we dont have to play the same reskinned game over and over again, more exclusives games, mods, better graphics, we can run the most demanding stuff on the market, pc games are in general a lot cheaper and we are not forced to deal with the 30 fps limitation or how console gamers like to call it "a cinematic experience "XD
Console users are just jealous, they dont want to admit that pc is simply superior, we have better games, we dont have to play the same reskinned game over and over again, more exclusives games, mods, better graphics, we can run the most demanding stuff on the market, pc games are in general a lot cheaper and we are not forced to deal with the 30 fps limitation or how console gamers like to call it "a cinematic experience "XD
Console users are just jealous, they dont want to admit that pc is simply superior, we have better games, we dont have to play the same reskinned game over and over again, more exclusives games, mods, better graphics, we can run the most demanding stuff on the market, pc games are in general a lot cheaper and we are not forced to deal with the 30 fps limitation or how console gamers like to call it "a cinematic experience "XD
Not sure if serious
More serious than you and your lies
You're the one trying to make people spend thousands of dollars for something they can't even see
I own a pretty strong rig which I will be upgrading thanks to a a PC nerd buddy, next year. And I don't give a shit. I just bought Baba Yaga on Xlive and am playing it on X1. Do those tree shadows look sharper on PC? Of course. Do you know how much time I spend staring at the tree shadows? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Console users are just jealous, they dont want to admit that pc is simply superior, we have better games, we dont have to play the same reskinned game over and over again, more exclusives games, mods, better graphics, we can run the most demanding stuff on the market, pc games are in general a lot cheaper and we are not forced to deal with the 30 fps limitation or how console gamers like to call it "a cinematic experience "XD
Not sure if serious
More serious than you and your lies
You're the one trying to make people spend thousands of dollars for something they can't even see
keep those lies coming, pc games are cheaper and better
For years now I have wondered if PC people actually play their games or just use them to demonstrate how powerful their setup is. That seems to be where most of the enjoyment for them is coming from, but what do I know? I'm not one of these weirdos. Actually there is nothing wrong with being weird so please don't be offended.
You're the one trying to make people spend thousands of dollars for something they can't even see
keep those lies coming, pc games are cheaper and better
What games people find to be "better" is rather subjective, so it's not really up to you to decide. I don't know why you find this so upseting
Nahh I just dont like it whenever you post false information such as these comments
"who cares how many units it's rendering if it looks like shit. Maybe you need to drop another $2000 on another monthly upgrade. Though it's not like strategy games count anyways"
"And after all that money they can't even play on a couch using a big screen plasma"
You're the one trying to make people spend thousands of dollars for something they can't even see
keep those lies coming, pc games are cheaper and better
What games people find to be "better" is rather subjective, so it's not really up to you to decide. I don't know why you find this so upseting
Nahh I just dont like it whenever you post false information such as these comments
"who cares how many units it's rendering if it looks like shit. Maybe you need to drop another $2000 on another monthly upgrade. Though it's not like strategy games count anyways"
"And after all that money they can't even play on a couch using a big screen plasma"
Hmmmm, i'm not seeing the issue, perhaps it's on your end. Maybe another upgrade will fix it
You're the one trying to make people spend thousands of dollars for something they can't even see
keep those lies coming, pc games are cheaper and better
What games people find to be "better" is rather subjective, so it's not really up to you to decide. I don't know why you find this so upseting
Nahh I just dont like it whenever you post false information such as these comments
"who cares how many units it's rendering if it looks like shit. Maybe you need to drop another $2000 on another monthly upgrade. Though it's not like strategy games count anyways"
"And after all that money they can't even play on a couch using a big screen plasma"
Hmmmm, i'm not seeing the issue, perhaps it's on your end. Maybe another upgrade will fix it
As usual, Xbox Won... Well, it got it first and already getting the expansion so ya know, just sayin. :P
Gamers won overall as it's a great game on any platform you will get it on. Of course the PC version will look and play a bit better. Just depends on how powerful your PC is. I never compare console and PC games because PC isn't a stagnant system. PC hardware is always improving, while the consoles do not until the next generation.
@blueinheaven: Huh. To be honest, I never gave it much thought to begin with. I'm a console gamer anyway so it doesn't really concern me. I have tried PC before though but it's just...not my thing. I've been console gaming since Super Nintendo so it's hard for me to switch to PC.
I wasn't talking to you mate. I was replying to wall of untruth :)
I wonder if I will still be interested in it when it comes out for PS4? And no, I don't care if it's inferior or superior or neither. I'm sure it will be close enough for me. But will it still seem worth getting then? I think they may have made a mistake making a deal with Microsoft as they will probably loose out on a lot of sales in the end. It seems to have worked out well for the PC people though as far as timing is concerned.
@mark1974: Rise of the Tomb Raider could've been our waiting game for Uncharted 4 but now by the time it comes out, PS4 owners won't even care as much anymore. This was a terrible idea on Square Enix's end.
keep those lies coming, pc games are cheaper and better
What games people find to be "better" is rather subjective, so it's not really up to you to decide. I don't know why you find this so upseting
Nahh I just dont like it whenever you post false information such as these comments
"who cares how many units it's rendering if it looks like shit. Maybe you need to drop another $2000 on another monthly upgrade. Though it's not like strategy games count anyways"
"And after all that money they can't even play on a couch using a big screen plasma"
Hmmmm, i'm not seeing the issue, perhaps it's on your end. Maybe another upgrade will fix it
keep up the trolling, dude
you got taken so far up a creek with their jokes it's not even funny
I wonder if I will still be interested in it when it comes out for PS4? And no, I don't care if it's inferior or superior or neither. I'm sure it will be close enough for me. But will it still seem worth getting then? I think they may have made a mistake making a deal with Microsoft as they will probably loose out on a lot of sales in the end. It seems to have worked out well for the PC people though as far as timing is concerned.
It's coming out on PC and even I am not sure if I want it right away considering my huge backlog of games and my busy schedule.. Which is weird considering I'm a TR fan that owns the previous games. It really should have released during the holidays for all platforms, Square Enix screwed up really bad. I don't see them recovering the lost sales on this one.
@walloftruth: PC gaming is not for everyone so it's only natural that some people are going to prefer cheap and easy but you can't argue that a maxed PC isn't stronger still. It's not even a debate, it's just how PC's have been from the beginning.
Not from the beginning. In the beginning PC gamers were playing adventure games in CGA (or just plain text) with annoying beeps for 'sound' while other gamers were playing games on the Amiga or ANY console that pissed all over everything on PC.
PC is performance king in gaming now, you're right it's not even a debate, but it was nothing more than a joke to start with. For a very very long time PC gaming was absolutely the worst and incredibly sub standard compared to everything else. Modern PC gamers would do well to realise gaming would have died a horrible death had it been left to PC's to further the industry. Consoles created gaming, PC is a 'me too' alternative that is the very best right now but for the longest time was absolute shit.
Commodore-Amiga was a Motorola 68K based PC that run UK created TripOS variant aka AmigaOS 1.0/Workbench 1.0. AmigaOS 1.0 was a 32bit preemptive multitasking with WIMP/GUI OS i.e. similar to Windows NT but without user security and memory protection. Amiga patents are currently owned by ACER i.e. a X86 PC cloner. ACER used Amiga related patents for defence.
TripOS was cut-down/kit-bash Unix like DOS which is ahead of Apple's MacOS 1.x. Kit-bashing Unix like OS for the consumer wasn't new.
X86 PC's two button MS mouse standard was from Commodore i.e. MSFT license it which enables MSFT to deflect Apple's "look and feel" legal action. The "look and feel" for Windows 95 was similar to AmigaOS 2.0x not Apple's MacOS.
Also notice, the Windows 95's first level icons are placed on the left hand side and default color theme is blue and gray as with AmigaOS 2.x
For comparison, Apple's MacOS 7.5
During 1985, Amiga PC was the first consumer PC with a primitive GPU e.g. F-29 Retaliator 3D flight simulator's line draws and fill functions was accelerated by the custom IGP and dot points was calculated by the CPU. Amiga was a heavy DMA driven machine (25 DMA channels) i.e. it's DMA engines was linked to 2D accelerator and PCM audio (not a crappy FM syn chip, it includes fix function audio effects). F-29 Retaliator 3D flight simulator made smart use of it's 2D accelerator for 3D hence speeding up line and fill functions. Amiga's IGP includes co-processor(aka "Copper") with primitive instruction set that runs independent of the CPU. The Copper was responsible for copying SNES's Mode 7 type effects on the Amiga. Amiga can emulate MS-DOS box by software or having X86 bridgeboard (X86 co-processor) add-ons.
Amiga's 2D accelerator is use to speed up AmigaOS's GUI.
Using the original IGP (1985 technology), Amiga's maximum gaming display result was 4096 colors (e.g. Links golf game which needs HDD) or 256 colors (e.g. Universe adventure). The key designers for the Amiga leads to the engineering efforts for 3DO. 3DO type hardware would be the new Amiga if Commodore was anti-R&D spending. 3DO died was mostly due to $599 price tag.
Commodore gave ATI it's first big OEM contract for Commodore branded X86 PC clones.
But your PC can only do graphics like this for $9,000
Looks like consoles win.
lying as always, how does it feel to be a liar. Your pathetic console could never render large scale battle like this, cause it is too weak. Also, game on pc look generally better than they do on console. Even tomb raider looks better on pc than xbox
A proper pc beats the shit out of your poor console.
There's no need for name calling here. I know you are upset about the recent revelation of console power, but that doesn't mean you need to turn to name calling.
Maybe you shouldnt be lying and posting fake stuff.
@thepclovingguy Don't mind them, they are 2 of the biggest sheep on this forum. They love everything about Nintendo & Chie. Especially @lostrib. Guy doesn't have a clue about PC gaming.
@walloftruth: PC gaming is not for everyone so it's only natural that some people are going to prefer cheap and easy but you can't argue that a maxed PC isn't stronger still. It's not even a debate, it's just how PC's have been from the beginning.
Not from the beginning. In the beginning PC gamers were playing adventure games in CGA (or just plain text) with annoying beeps for 'sound' while other gamers were playing games on the Amiga or ANY console that pissed all over everything on PC.
PC is performance king in gaming now, you're right it's not even a debate, but it was nothing more than a joke to start with. For a very very long time PC gaming was absolutely the worst and incredibly sub standard compared to everything else. Modern PC gamers would do well to realise gaming would have died a horrible death had it been left to PC's to further the industry. Consoles created gaming, PC is a 'me too' alternative that is the very best right now but for the longest time was absolute shit.
Amiga was a PC, dumbass
'the Amiga or ANY console'. Get mommy to read it to you next time, she can explain what all the words mean while she reads, you dumb ****.
As usual, Xbox Won... Well, it got it first and already getting the expansion so ya know, just sayin. :P
Gamers won overall as it's a great game on any platform you will get it on. Of course the PC version will look and play a bit better. Just depends on how powerful your PC is. I never compare console and PC games because PC isn't a stagnant system. PC hardware is always improving, while the consoles do not until the next generation.
No doubt, really enjoyed the game and need to get back to it for a second play through soon.
@walloftruth: PC gaming is not for everyone so it's only natural that some people are going to prefer cheap and easy but you can't argue that a maxed PC isn't stronger still. It's not even a debate, it's just how PC's have been from the beginning.
Not from the beginning. In the beginning PC gamers were playing adventure games in CGA (or just plain text) with annoying beeps for 'sound' while other gamers were playing games on the Amiga or ANY console that pissed all over everything on PC.
PC is performance king in gaming now, you're right it's not even a debate, but it was nothing more than a joke to start with. For a very very long time PC gaming was absolutely the worst and incredibly sub standard compared to everything else. Modern PC gamers would do well to realise gaming would have died a horrible death had it been left to PC's to further the industry. Consoles created gaming, PC is a 'me too' alternative that is the very best right now but for the longest time was absolute shit.
Amiga was a PC, dumbass
'the Amiga or ANY console'. Get mommy to read it to you next time, she can explain what all the words mean while she reads, you dumb ****.
Sorry smart ass, it doesn't work like that, your wording made it clear you considered Amiga another brand of console or simply something else like an arcade system. Nice try.
@walloftruth: PC gaming is not for everyone so it's only natural that some people are going to prefer cheap and easy but you can't argue that a maxed PC isn't stronger still. It's not even a debate, it's just how PC's have been from the beginning.
Not from the beginning. In the beginning PC gamers were playing adventure games in CGA (or just plain text) with annoying beeps for 'sound' while other gamers were playing games on the Amiga or ANY console that pissed all over everything on PC.
PC is performance king in gaming now, you're right it's not even a debate, but it was nothing more than a joke to start with. For a very very long time PC gaming was absolutely the worst and incredibly sub standard compared to everything else. Modern PC gamers would do well to realise gaming would have died a horrible death had it been left to PC's to further the industry. Consoles created gaming, PC is a 'me too' alternative that is the very best right now but for the longest time was absolute shit.
Amiga was a PC, dumbass
'the Amiga or ANY console'. Get mommy to read it to you next time, she can explain what all the words mean while she reads, you dumb ****.
Sorry smart ass, it doesn't work like that, your wording made it clear you considered Amiga another brand of console or simply something else like an arcade system. Nice try.
Amiga was a games machine that doubled up as a weak PC. PC at that time was abysmal for games but was the main choice for computing for business and at home (not many people owned one at home at that time). If you want to be pedantic the Mac is also a PC why doesn't everyone just call it that instead of a Mac?
Everyone associated Amiga with games and PC with spreadsheets it doesn't matter if it was technically a personal computer. The point anyway is PC as we know it was shit for games for the longest time and that's what upset poor little Johnny Malcovich and brought on his tantrum.
Amiga was a games machine that doubled up as a weak PC. PC at that time was abysmal for games but was the main choice for computing for business and at home (not many people owned one at home at that time). If you want to be pedantic the Mac is also a PC why doesn't everyone just call it that instead of a Mac?
Everyone associated Amiga with games and PC with spreadsheets it doesn't matter if it was technically a personal computer. The point anyway is PC as we know it was shit for games for the longest time and that's what upset poor little Johnny Malcovich and brought on his tantrum.
The Amiga wasn't weak. It ran rings around most computers of the time. It had its own productivity suites that made the platform a decent alternative to an IBM-compatible. But, the PC owners of the time were a stubborn lot, refusing to switch over to the better platform.
At the time, most PC owners regarded PC ownership as an extension of their workplace, not gaming. Gaming was for kids. ;)
@koko-goal: Year 2016 and people still get baited by the same stuff
then why dont we cap video games at the same picture rate as regular movies at 24 fps.
Actually, I was just reading an article from a very reputable source that says the reason movies are 24fps, is because the human eye can't see above 24fps. My above posts were incorrect. They should say 24 fps and not 30fps.
But your PC can only do graphics like this for $9,000
Looks like consoles win.
lying as always, how does it feel to be a liar. Your pathetic console could never render large scale battle like this, cause it is too weak. Also, game on pc look generally better than they do on console. Even tomb raider looks better on pc than xbox
A proper pc beats the shit out of your poor console.
There's no need for name calling here. I know you are upset about the recent revelation of console power, but that doesn't mean you need to turn to name calling.
Maybe you shouldnt be lying and posting fake stuff.
@thepclovingguy Don't mind them, they are 2 of the biggest sheep on this forum. They love everything about Nintendo & Chie. Especially @lostrib. Guy doesn't have a clue about PC gaming.
@koko-goal: Year 2016 and people still get baited by the same stuff
then why dont we cap video games at the same picture rate as regular movies at 24 fps.
Actually, I was just reading an article from a very reputable source that says the reason movies are 24fps, is because the human eye can't see above 24fps. My above posts were incorrect. They should say 24 fps and not 30fps.
most of your posts have been incorrect and why arent you giving us link cause 4chan isnt a very reputable source if thats the one you talking about. Your troll attempts are failing.
@koko-goal: Year 2016 and people still get baited by the same stuff
then why dont we cap video games at the same picture rate as regular movies at 24 fps.
Actually, I was just reading an article from a very reputable source that says the reason movies are 24fps, is because the human eye can't see above 24fps. My above posts were incorrect. They should say 24 fps and not 30fps.
The lowest point of perceivable motion is 24 FPS, below that the illusion is lost and you can perceive individual frames, you need to stop talking.
Maybe you shouldnt be lying and posting fake stuff.
@thepclovingguy Don't mind them, they are 2 of the biggest sheep on this forum. They love everything about Nintendo & Chie. Especially @lostrib. Guy doesn't have a clue about PC gaming.
@koko-goal: Year 2016 and people still get baited by the same stuff
then why dont we cap video games at the same picture rate as regular movies at 24 fps.
Actually, I was just reading an article from a very reputable source that says the reason movies are 24fps, is because the human eye can't see above 24fps. My above posts were incorrect. They should say 24 fps and not 30fps.
The lowest point of perceivable motion is 24 FPS, below that the illusion is lost and you can perceive individual frames, you need to stop talking.
Right, so why waste resources on more frames than can be perceived
@koko-goal: Year 2016 and people still get baited by the same stuff
then why dont we cap video games at the same picture rate as regular movies at 24 fps.
Actually, I was just reading an article from a very reputable source that says the reason movies are 24fps, is because the human eye can't see above 24fps. My above posts were incorrect. They should say 24 fps and not 30fps.
The lowest point of perceivable motion is 24 FPS, below that the illusion is lost and you can perceive individual frames, you need to stop talking.
Right, so why waste resources on more frames than can be perceived
Well that's quite simple lostrib, with a proper refresh rate the motion will get continually smoother as the framerate is increased.
Actually, I was just reading an article from a very reputable source that says the reason movies are 24fps, is because the human eye can't see above 24fps. My above posts were incorrect. They should say 24 fps and not 30fps.
The lowest point of perceivable motion is 24 FPS, below that the illusion is lost and you can perceive individual frames, you need to stop talking.
Right, so why waste resources on more frames than can be perceived
Well that's quite simple lostrib, with a proper refresh rate the motion will get continually smoother as the framerate is increased.
why waste money when the eye wont be able to sense the increased refresh rate. Trust me, I'm a scientist
@thepclovingguy: perhaps you should check yourself before you wreck yourself
well i am not the one who is making up lies.
But look at the facts.
The Xbox One can do graphics like this for $350:
But your PC can only do graphics like this for $9,000
Looks like consoles win.
lying as always, how does it feel to be a liar. Your pathetic console could never render large scale battle like this, cause it is too weak. Also, game on pc look generally better than they do on console. Even tomb raider looks better on pc than xbox
A proper pc beats the shit out of your poor console.
He ain't lying... but he is trolling you with cheap trolling tactics.
But your PC can only do graphics like this for $9,000
Looks like consoles win.
lying as always, how does it feel to be a liar. Your pathetic console could never render large scale battle like this, cause it is too weak. Also, game on pc look generally better than they do on console. Even tomb raider looks better on pc than xbox
A proper pc beats the shit out of your poor console.
He ain't lying... but he is trolling you with cheap trolling tactics.
Only cheap compared to your $8000 PC, while the $350 PS4 delivers 8gb of GDDR5 beating out the even the almighty Titan
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