DF: Tech Analysis: Gran Turismo Sport vs Forza Motorsport 7

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#101 navyguy21
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You people are sad.

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#103  Edited By mowgly1
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@FLOPPAGE_50:

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From the summary it appears both games are even, forza does something's better, GT has the edge on others

So why yall fightinng/baiting in here haha

.....

Xbone fans desperately trying so hard to spin things just to hide how their lovely Xbone game on PC is OBLITERATED by a PS4 game on weaker hardware. Damn, Xbone needs to die soon.

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If you want to talk about graphics, one game runs at a native 4k resolution with PC Ultra settings and manages a locked, rock solid 60 fps. The other one, not even close.

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@mowgly1 said:

@FLOPPAGE_50:

Quote :

From the summary it appears both games are even, forza does something's better, GT has the edge on others

So why yall fightinng/baiting in here haha

.....

Xbone fans desperately trying so hard to spin things just to hide how their lovely Xbone game on PC is OBLITERATED by a PS4 game on weaker hardware. Damn, Xbone needs to die soon.

in english please?

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#107  Edited By QuadKnight
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? After a whole year of constantly hyping Flopza 7’s visuals and XboneX, lems want us to suddenly agree that it’s tied with GT Sport. What a sudden shift because GT Sport obliterates Forza 7 in this comparison. What happened to all the gloating and proclamation that F7 was going to destroy every game on the PS4 Pro with its visuals?

No lems, you can’t backtrack now. GT Sport proves again that TFlops are no match for talented devs. Something we’ve been trying to tell you clowns for over a year. T10 are good and XboneX is more powerful than the PS4 Pro but PD are wizards and in the end T10 was no match for the wizards at PD.

? Take the L lems and be happy you guys win graphics wars when it comes to mediocre looking miltiplats like Shadow of War. Sony’s 1st party devs will continue to embarrass you lems and the DynamicBoneX throughout the gen however.

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#109 QuadKnight
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@kuu2: After your embarrassing display in this thread you should be the last one to mention anything about clowns. ? You’re the worst clown of SW.

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@kuu2: “? Bu...bu...bu..but teh turned off phyzics!!1”

? What a meltdown. I’m still surprised you can post in this thread after you were caught lying. No shame whatsoever, typical lem.

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#113  Edited By QuadKnight
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@kuu2: ? Nice try lem but everyone knows GTS has better physics and AI than Flopza 7. Go watch ISR’s review of both games, Flopza is a floaty mess compared to GTS.

Collisions aren’t completely turned off during Multiplayer they are only turned off in certain situations to prevent trolling.

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#114 hrt_rulz01
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@pinkanimal said:
@kuu2 said:
@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

From the summary it appears both games are even, forza does something's better, GT has the edge on others

So why yall fightinng/baiting in here haha

Its really about the actual racing features that were cut that is the discussion. No one is arguing that they both look good. GT however actually scales down the number of cars in a race, weather, certain physics, and lighting to get to certain abilities graphically. In my opinion it is a huge compromise.

And Forza has worse AI, worse car physics, less detailed cars, less dynamic shadowing, simpler tree and crowd models so both have compromises if you define them that way

Yet Forza is the better game... enough said.

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#115 asylumni
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@quadknight said:

@kuu2: ? Nice try lem but everyone knows GTS has better physics and AI than Flopza 7. Go watch ISR’s review of both games, Flopza is a floaty mess compared to GTS.

Collisions aren’t completely turned off during Multiplayer they are only turned off in certain situations to prevent trolling.

Hmmm, it seems as though he doesn't like a game that prevents someone from going online just to troll and be a jerk to players that are trying to play well. Go figure...

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#116  Edited By PinkAnimal
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@hrt_rulz01 said:
@pinkanimal said:
@kuu2 said:
@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

From the summary it appears both games are even, forza does something's better, GT has the edge on others

So why yall fightinng/baiting in here haha

Its really about the actual racing features that were cut that is the discussion. No one is arguing that they both look good. GT however actually scales down the number of cars in a race, weather, certain physics, and lighting to get to certain abilities graphically. In my opinion it is a huge compromise.

And Forza has worse AI, worse car physics, less detailed cars, less dynamic shadowing, simpler tree and crowd models so both have compromises if you define them that way

Yet Forza is the better game... enough said.

And GTS is the better sim... enough said.

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@pinkanimal said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:
@pinkanimal said:
@kuu2 said:
@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

From the summary it appears both games are even, forza does something's better, GT has the edge on others

So why yall fightinng/baiting in here haha

Its really about the actual racing features that were cut that is the discussion. No one is arguing that they both look good. GT however actually scales down the number of cars in a race, weather, certain physics, and lighting to get to certain abilities graphically. In my opinion it is a huge compromise.

And Forza has worse AI, worse car physics, less detailed cars, less dynamic shadowing, simpler tree and crowd models so both have compromises if you define them that way

Yet Forza is the better game... enough said.

And GTS is the better sim... enough said.

Lmao... whatever makes you feel better.

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#118 PinkAnimal
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@hrt_rulz01 said:
@pinkanimal said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:
@pinkanimal said:
@kuu2 said:

Its really about the actual racing features that were cut that is the discussion. No one is arguing that they both look good. GT however actually scales down the number of cars in a race, weather, certain physics, and lighting to get to certain abilities graphically. In my opinion it is a huge compromise.

And Forza has worse AI, worse car physics, less detailed cars, less dynamic shadowing, simpler tree and crowd models so both have compromises if you define them that way

Yet Forza is the better game... enough said.

And GTS is the better sim... enough said.

Lmao... whatever makes you feel better.

It seems it's more like it makes you butthurt :) ISR and DF have spoken and GTS is a better sim: better physics, better AI, more realistic looking.

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@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

From the summary it appears both games are even, forza does something's better, GT has the edge on others

So why yall fightinng/baiting in here haha

Lol that's what I said.

It looks like both of these games are great in their own regard. Honestly, with how much a racing setup costs, there's no doubt that hardcore racing fans already own both and many other racing games.

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@pinkanimal said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:
@pinkanimal said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:
@pinkanimal said:

And Forza has worse AI, worse car physics, less detailed cars, less dynamic shadowing, simpler tree and crowd models so both have compromises if you define them that way

Yet Forza is the better game... enough said.

And GTS is the better sim... enough said.

Lmao... whatever makes you feel better.

It seems it's more like it makes you butthurt :) ISR and DF have spoken and GTS is a better sim: better physics, better AI, more realistic looking.

Lol... again, whatever makes you feel better.

You can nitpick specific areas of the game that are arguably a bit better in GTS (according to some reviewers), but OVERALL, FM7 has been pretty emphatically judged to be the better game. So whatevs. But hey, if you prefer GTS, good for you :)

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@asylumni said:
@quadknight said:

@kuu2: ? Nice try lem but everyone knows GTS has better physics and AI than Flopza 7. Go watch ISR’s review of both games, Flopza is a floaty mess compared to GTS.

Collisions aren’t completely turned off during Multiplayer they are only turned off in certain situations to prevent trolling.

Hmmm, it seems as though he doesn't like a game that prevents someone from going online just to troll and be a jerk to players that are trying to play well. Go figure...

Of course he wouldn't like it, he's a troll.

Look at what he's doing in this thread for example. Straight up lying to rile people up and then instead of admitting he was lying he doubles down on the lies. He's a natural born troll.

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#122 PinkAnimal
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@hrt_rulz01 said:
@pinkanimal said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:
@pinkanimal said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:

Yet Forza is the better game... enough said.

And GTS is the better sim... enough said.

Lmao... whatever makes you feel better.

It seems it's more like it makes you butthurt :) ISR and DF have spoken and GTS is a better sim: better physics, better AI, more realistic looking.

Lol... again, whatever makes you feel better.

You can nitpick specific areas of the game that are arguably a bit better in GTS (according to some reviewers), but OVERALL, FM7 has been pretty emphatically judged to be the better game. So whatevs. But hey, if you prefer GTS, good for you :)

Ok but physics, AI and realistic looks are probably some of the most relevant aspects of sim racers so it hardly is nitpicking. The game actually nailed the sim part pretty well.

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@pinkanimal said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:
@pinkanimal said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:
@pinkanimal said:

And GTS is the better sim... enough said.

Lmao... whatever makes you feel better.

It seems it's more like it makes you butthurt :) ISR and DF have spoken and GTS is a better sim: better physics, better AI, more realistic looking.

Lol... again, whatever makes you feel better.

You can nitpick specific areas of the game that are arguably a bit better in GTS (according to some reviewers), but OVERALL, FM7 has been pretty emphatically judged to be the better game. So whatevs. But hey, if you prefer GTS, good for you :)

Ok but physics, AI and realistic looks are probably some of the most relevant aspects of sim racers so it hardly is nitpicking. The game actually nailed the sim part pretty well.

OK :)

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#124  Edited By BassMan
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I think both look pretty good. The trees generally look like shit for both. I found the low frame rate and resolution of the reflections for GT Sport distracting when I played the demo. I wish they pushed the PC version of Forza 7 further with better trees, foliage, lighting and such. My PC doesn't even break a sweat running the game at max settings 4K/60fps. There is untapped potential. They could offer this as a "quality mode" for X1X at a lower resolution.

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#125  Edited By deactivated-5c0b07b32bf03
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That moment when lems are confronted with the fact that the PS4's latest exclusive looks better than what is being upheld as the X1X's best looking game. And on top of that GT is the better sim.

Ouchie.

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@reduc_ab_ said:

That moment when lems are confronted with the fact that the PS4's latest exclusive looks better than what is being upheld as the X1X's best looking game. And on top of that GT is the better sim.

Ouchie.

Ouch indeed lol.

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The way you hold and turn the steering wheel in GTS is so annoying and unnatural.

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@reduc_ab_ said:

That moment when lems are confronted with the fact that the PS4's latest exclusive looks better than what is being upheld as the X1X's best looking game. And on top of that GT is the better sim.

Ouchie.

Lol, nothing more hilarious than seeing cow damage control in full swing... just can't handle the fact that FM7 is the better game. So you now try to find specific areas of GTS that are supposedly "better" & claim that it's all about which is more of a "sim". LMAO.

FM7 is better overall, as 99.9% of the reviews have said... deal with it & move on. Geez.

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@hrt_rulz01: Better physics. Better handling. Better graphics. And it's the game that the pros will play. Your argument isn't working, dude.

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#130  Edited By deactivated-63181ff40994a
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Beats me as to why GTS looks better than Forza 7 when F7 runs on better hardware, but it should obviously come down to GTS being the better developer in the graphics department, etc.

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#131  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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@reduc_ab_ said:

@hrt_rulz01: Better physics. Better handling. Better graphics. And it's the game that the pros will play. Your argument isn't working, dude.

Yeah because your argument of "the game with the lower scores across the board, is actually the better game" argument is so good... lmao. Whatever you say :)

Fu*k cows are hilarious.

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@hrt_rulz01: You do realize that lems have been saying metacritic is worthless for four years now, right? Riiiiight? ;)

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#133  Edited By BassMan
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@reduc_ab_ said:

@hrt_rulz01: Better physics. Better handling. Better graphics. And it's the game that the pros will play. Your argument isn't working, dude.

The pros won't play it because there are so few real world tracks in the game. They will opt for games like iRacing on PC.

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@quadknight said:

@kuu2: ? Nice try lem but everyone knows GTS has better physics and AI than Flopza 7. Go watch ISR’s review of both games, Flopza is a floaty mess compared to GTS.

Collisions aren’t completely turned off during Multiplayer they are only turned off in certain situations to prevent trolling.

If you want to talk about graphics, one game runs at a native 4k resolution with PC Ultra settings and manages a locked, rock solid 60 fps. The other one, not even close.

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@fastnslowww said:

Beats me as to why GTS looks better than Forza 7 when F7 runs on better hardware, but it should obviously come down to GTS being the better developer in the graphics department, etc.

If you want to talk about graphics, one game runs at a native 4k resolution with PC Ultra settings and manages a locked, rock solid 60 fps. The other one, not even close.

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@fastnslowww said:

Beats me as to why GTS looks better than Forza 7 when F7 runs on better hardware, but it should obviously come down to GTS being the better developer in the graphics department, etc.

PD have always been better at T10 when it comes to visuals. Especially when it comes to their lighting system.

Even during the old PS2 days GT4 had better visuals than Forza 1 despite Forza 1 being on the more powerful console.

In the end, Tflops alone do not determine who delivers the better visuals. Talent of the dev teams plays a bigger part and PD are more talented and have a better eye for detail when it comes to graphics.

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#137  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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@reduc_ab_ said:

@hrt_rulz01: You do realize that lems have been saying metacritic is worthless for four years now, right? Riiiiight? ;)

I have no idea... and is irrelevant to this discussion :)

@BassMan said:
@reduc_ab_ said:

@hrt_rulz01: Better physics. Better handling. Better graphics. And it's the game that the pros will play. Your argument isn't working, dude.

The pros won't play it because there are so few real world tracks in the game. They will opt for games like iRacing on PC.

Exactly... GTS has too few cars and tracks for any serious racer to pick it over others.

I honestly hope that they release a proper GT game eventually, because I used to be a big fan of the series... but I doubt it.

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@reduc_ab_ said:

That moment when lems are confronted with the fact that the PS4's latest exclusive looks better than what is being upheld as the X1X's best looking game. And on top of that GT is the better sim.

Ouchie.

If you want to talk about graphics, one game runs at a native 4k resolution with PC Ultra settings and manages a locked, rock solid 60 fps. The other one, not even close.

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@Xplode_games said:
@fastnslowww said:

Beats me as to why GTS looks better than Forza 7 when F7 runs on better hardware, but it should obviously come down to GTS being the better developer in the graphics department, etc.

If you want to talk about graphics, one game runs at a native 4k resolution with PC Ultra settings and manages a locked, rock solid 60 fps. The other one, not even close.

Well if forza runs at 4k 60fps.....thats explains why it looks worse compared to GTS. GTS can afford to look better because it isn't using more resources due to a higher resolution/framrate, etc.

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#140  Edited By QuadKnight
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@Xplode_games said:
@quadknight said:

@kuu2: ? Nice try lem but everyone knows GTS has better physics and AI than Flopza 7. Go watch ISR’s review of both games, Flopza is a floaty mess compared to GTS.

Collisions aren’t completely turned off during Multiplayer they are only turned off in certain situations to prevent trolling.

If you want to talk about graphics, one game runs at a native 4k resolution with PC Ultra settings and manages a locked, rock solid 60 fps. The other one, not even close.

And Flopza 7 has crappy trees and 2D cardboard cutouts for people in the stands. What's your point lol?

Half Life 2 running at 4K on my PC doesn't look as good as Star Citizen running at 1440p. Resolution is only one aspect of graphics, it doesn't determine which game looks better as the DF analysis demonstrates. GTS completely outclasses F7 in the visual aspects that matter.

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So is DF good again?

Are cows talking graphics again without mentioning their PC's?

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#142 QuadKnight
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@fastnslowww said:
@Xplode_games said:
@fastnslowww said:

Beats me as to why GTS looks better than Forza 7 when F7 runs on better hardware, but it should obviously come down to GTS being the better developer in the graphics department, etc.

If you want to talk about graphics, one game runs at a native 4k resolution with PC Ultra settings and manages a locked, rock solid 60 fps. The other one, not even close.

Well if forza runs at 4k 60fps.....thats explains why it looks worse compared to GTS. GTS can afford to look better because it isn't using more resources due to a higher resolution/framrate, etc.

If T10 wasn't chasing loot crates and the 4K bullet point so badly they would have had more resources to push Forza 7 to look better.

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#143  Edited By QuadKnight
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@i_p_daily said:

So is DF good again?

Are cows talking graphics again without mentioning their PC's?

Suddenly Flopza 7 isn't the end all be all when it comes to graphics like you lems proclaimed. Now you guys want it to be tied with GTS, a game you guys claimed looked like a PS3 game not too long ago lol.

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#144  Edited By Xplode_games
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@quadknight said:
@Xplode_games said:
@quadknight said:

@kuu2: ? Nice try lem but everyone knows GTS has better physics and AI than Flopza 7. Go watch ISR’s review of both games, Flopza is a floaty mess compared to GTS.

Collisions aren’t completely turned off during Multiplayer they are only turned off in certain situations to prevent trolling.

If you want to talk about graphics, one game runs at a native 4k resolution with PC Ultra settings and manages a locked, rock solid 60 fps. The other one, not even close.

And flops 7 has crappy trees and 2D cardboard cutouts for people in the stands. What's your point lol?

Half Life 2 running at 4K on my PC doesn't look as good as Star Citizen running at 1440p. Resolution is only one aspect of graphics it doesn't determine which game looks better as the DF analysis demonstrates. GTS completely outclasses F7 in the visual aspects that matter.

Cool imagination kid. I heard Mario Kart 8 for Switch beats it too because someone has an opinion.

If you want to get back to reality, one game runs at 4K resolution and 60 fps and matches PCs Ultra settings. The other doesn't even come close and has soup textures. You can say you like Mario Kart over a game that runs in 4K with 4K assets and runs at 60 fps if you want to but you'd just be a very excitable young man with a fascinating opinion, nothing more.

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#145 QuadKnight
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@kuu2: ? Nice try lem but everyone knows GTS has better physics and AI than Flopza 7. Go watch ISR’s review of both games, Flopza is a floaty mess compared to GTS.

Collisions aren’t completely turned off during Multiplayer they are only turned off in certain situations to prevent trolling.

If you want to talk about graphics, one game runs at a native 4k resolution with PC Ultra settings and manages a locked, rock solid 60 fps. The other one, not even close.

And flops 7 has crappy trees and 2D cardboard cutouts for people in the stands. What's your point lol?

Half Life 2 running at 4K on my PC doesn't look as good as Star Citizen running at 1440p. Resolution is only one aspect of graphics it doesn't determine which game looks better as the DF analysis demonstrates. GTS completely outclasses F7 in the visual aspects that matter.

Cool imagination kid. I heard Mario Kart 8 for Switch beats it too because someone has an opinion.

If you want to get back to reality, one game runs at 4K resolution and 60 fps and matches PCs Ultra settings. The other doesn't even come close and has soup textures. You can say you like Mario Kart over a game that runs in 4K with 4K assets and runs at 60 fps but you'd just be a very excitable young man with a fascinating opinion, nothing more.

So much damage control.

Watch the DF analysis again, you're in denial.

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There is some pretty outrageous lem denial going on in this thread. Sheesh. You guys need to take a break.

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#147 deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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So is DF good again?

Are cows talking graphics again without mentioning their PC's?

Suddenly Flopza 7 isn't the end all be all when it comes to graphics like you lems proclaimed. Now you guys want it to be tied with GTS, a game you guys claimed looked like a PS3 game not too long ago lol.

Go find where I said any of that quack, i'll wait.

You see quack i'm not like you who talks up a game so much then under hypes it in it's hype thread.

So like i said you're talking graphics again without mentioning your PC. Stay the clown we know you to be quack.

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#148 UItravioIence
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TLHBO. tough times for lems. Dang.

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#149  Edited By QuadKnight
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@i_p_daily said:
@quadknight said:
@i_p_daily said:

So is DF good again?

Are cows talking graphics again without mentioning their PC's?

Suddenly Flopza 7 isn't the end all be all when it comes to graphics like you lems proclaimed. Now you guys want it to be tied with GTS, a game you guys claimed looked like a PS3 game not too long ago lol.

Go find where I said any of that quack, i'll wait.

You see quack i'm not like you who talks up a game so much then under hypes it in it's hype thread.

So like i said you're talking graphics again without mentioning your PC. Stay the clown we know you to be quack.

Cry harder lem. You can deny you didn't say it but the majority of your lem bros here and on the internet were saying it.

Forza 7 was the reason we got lems falsely claiming that Xbone was a GTX 1070 equivalent for months because its graphics were supposedly too epic sauce for most high-end PCs. Now we have those same clowns in this thread that claimed such bullshit trying to say that GTS, a game they ridiculed for months, is equal to the savior of the XboneX because they are getting destroyed by it lol.

EDIT: BTW I hyped GTS AAA in its hype thread. So your claim about me under-hyping games it total bullshit like your other claims in this thread.

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#150 Xplode_games
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@quadknight said:
@Xplode_games said:
@quadknight said:
@Xplode_games said:
@quadknight said:

@kuu2: ? Nice try lem but everyone knows GTS has better physics and AI than Flopza 7. Go watch ISR’s review of both games, Flopza is a floaty mess compared to GTS.

Collisions aren’t completely turned off during Multiplayer they are only turned off in certain situations to prevent trolling.

If you want to talk about graphics, one game runs at a native 4k resolution with PC Ultra settings and manages a locked, rock solid 60 fps. The other one, not even close.

And flops 7 has crappy trees and 2D cardboard cutouts for people in the stands. What's your point lol?

Half Life 2 running at 4K on my PC doesn't look as good as Star Citizen running at 1440p. Resolution is only one aspect of graphics it doesn't determine which game looks better as the DF analysis demonstrates. GTS completely outclasses F7 in the visual aspects that matter.

Cool imagination kid. I heard Mario Kart 8 for Switch beats it too because someone has an opinion.

If you want to get back to reality, one game runs at 4K resolution and 60 fps and matches PCs Ultra settings. The other doesn't even come close and has soup textures. You can say you like Mario Kart over a game that runs in 4K with 4K assets and runs at 60 fps but you'd just be a very excitable young man with a fascinating opinion, nothing more.

So much damage control.

Watch the DF analysis again, you're in denial.

I saw it. They clearly state that Forza 7 looks much better because it runs at a full native 4k resolution which gives it much sharper visuals for a 4k TV and they also mention that it has high res 4k assets which again are far superior to the soup textures in GTS.

They mentioned GTS has more detailed cars but only because they spent more development time on them so they also have many fewer cars. The difference in the details were very minor, I much prefer having a lot more cars. The crowd was terrible with both, they just showed different ways of handling it. Of course you would say GTS was a lot better but again your opinion. Trees were handled differently, on GTS sport they have lighting and shadows and more 2D cardboard cutouts vs Forzas more standard 2D cardboard cutout trees without lighting because Forza has baked shadows. The lighting again is handled differently and they actually gave Forza 7 the edge there because it has more dynamic weather. In any event, all of those are design decisions and only a fanboy would say one way is vastly superior than the other way.

You know what's real, one game runs all of that at NATIVE 4K resolution matching PCs Ultra settings and at a rock solid 60 fps. The other one, not even close.