DF: The Evil Within 2 - Xbox One X 300% the pixel count over PS4 Pro, shots fired!!!

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#1  Edited By Xplode_games
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The Xbox One X renders the game at 1800p while the PS4 Pro renders the game at 1080p. DF mentioned the PS4 Pro version is best played on a 1080p display. The X version is best suited for a 4k display.

The PS4 Pro version has a bit more stable framerate and in an unlocked framerate mode it can hit 60 fps indoors. Although DF explains it's framerate is too unstable in this mode so the preferred mode is the locked 30 fps on both consoles.

The X version has 3 times the pixels of the PS4 Pro version. The difference is so staggering DF said they will contact the developer to see what went wrong with the pro patch.

IF you have a 4k HDR tv and want to play the Evil Within 2, no question what console will serve you the best.

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#2 deactivated-5c56012aaa167
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If Tango used Id Tech 6 would it allow them to make it run in full 4K on Xbox X ?

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#3  Edited By deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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So 1800p on a 2160p tv and 30fps is a win? How about both consoles are losers, but the Pro is the bigger loser?

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#4 DrLostRib
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@goldenelementxl said:

So 1800p on a 2160p tv and 30fps is a win? How about both consoles are losers, but the Pro is the bigger loser?

"true 4k" gaming

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#5  Edited By freedomfreak
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Late.

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#6 Livecommander
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@Xplode_games: Hdr is prettier then 4k. Sad ass xbone needs a game to be in 4k for it to look good.

Ps4 games will look continue to look better in general. Just get use to it

Especially will litte exclusives wanting to showcase the x1s potential.

Atleast og ps4 had games to show off its power. Lems have to lay there cofidence in multiplat games that are already well established on mutliple systems (rdr2)

Until a game has dynamic sky on x1 and not ps4. ( mgs ground zeros had on ps4 ) or sominthing that big of a difference the impact of being more powerful will reach no one.

A game of tic tac toe could be in 4k and 300 percent the pixels aswell. Dont mean much if graphics are being programed better on one side

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#7 uninspiredcup  Online
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My gods, that probably means something.

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#8 Archangel3371  Online
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Sounds pretty good. Now that the system is out there I expect devs will make better use of the power moving forward with upcoming games because they know what they have to work with during the actual development of the game instead of having to patch it in later on.

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#9  Edited By Alucard_Prime
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All I know is that this is probably the best looking Survival Horror game I've ever played, recently finished it on the X and loved it, only the heavy stealth areas I did not enjoy as much, but it's a hardcore survival horror game and it looks incredible overall. Runs well too, I had the frame rate unlocked, didn't have issues with that either.

Outlast 2 also looks really nice on the X, but it's a different style than Evil Within, less stuff to interact with in the environment, cleaner look overall I think

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#10 WallofTruth
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The Xbox One X version runs at 2.77 times the resolution, how exactly is that 300%? Sounds more like 277%.

Just like fake 4k on Xbox, you get fake 300% from lems.

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#11 TetsuosAdvantag
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Be careful when you stand up after watching this OP. You may pass out.

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#12 PCgameruk
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So another game the one X can't do 4k?

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#13 hrt_rulz01
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No surprises here...

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**** DF and its shitty videos, people need to learn how to play games not watch technical analysis of them.

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#15 hrt_rulz01
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@i_p_daily said:

**** DF and its shitty videos, people need to learn how to play games not watch technical analysis of them.

I agree... but don't we have to give it back to the cows who constantly posted these things ad nauseam all gen when the PS4 was "better"?? Lol.

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#16 Tigerbalm
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So neither are 4k. Xbox fanatics are to gullible.

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#17 scatteh316
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Last time DF said a game on one of these 'updated' console was 1080p it didn't go so well...lmao....

But Another X fail..... 1800p with dips is not 4k gaming...... in fact they should of ran it at 1700p to avoid frame drops...... if not lower.

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#18 djoffer
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Jesus consoles are sooo crappy! But the evil within 2 is a great game, no idea why it didn’t get more praise...

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@hrt_rulz01 said:
@i_p_daily said:

**** DF and its shitty videos, people need to learn how to play games not watch technical analysis of them.

I agree... but don't we have to give it back to the cows who constantly posted these things ad nauseam all gen when the PS4 was "better"?? Lol.

Well you know I love stirring cows, but I hate sites like DF & Metashitic, for me they add nothing to our medium other than stupidity from the people who use them.

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#20 DaVillain  Moderator
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I thought DF already did this? Oh well, I just wish they put out more PC content at the very least.

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#21 MonsieurX
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Xbox X weaksauce confirmed, can't run the game at 4k

Thanks for the FACTS

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#22 hrt_rulz01
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@i_p_daily: Lol I agree, but gotta give it back to cows :)

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#23 blueinheaven
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The game looks crap anyway, and plays crap too. It's not a very good game, dated graphics (crap graphics look crap in hi res it's just a bit more obvious how crap they are) and shit horribly unbalanced gameplay that forces you to hunt around constantly just for fucking ammo and stuff.

There's no 'win' scenario here no matter what you play it on. I've never been so disappointed in a sequel.

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#24 CrashNBurn281
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That's a rather large gap in resolution. It could simply be an issue with the patch, not like it hasn't happened to the BoneX.

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@hrt_rulz01 said:

@i_p_daily: Lol I agree, but gotta give it back to cows :)

Yeah just wait for the next Xbox bash thread (should be one just around the corner lol) to watch the cows own themselves.

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#26 Xplode_games
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@tigerbalm said:

So neither are 4k. Xbox fanatics are to gullible.

On the pro you have a resolution that is natively 25% of 4k so the image has to stretch all the way from 25% to the full 100% to fill the entire screen. By the time it's stretched out like that, you get a much softer, blurrier, more aliased image that doesn't look very good at all on a 4k tv. That's why DF says it is recommended to play it on a 1080p tv because then it is displaying the image natively without stretching and it looks better on that display.

On the X you have a resolution that is 80% the pixels of 4k so the image has to only stretch from 80% to 100% which is not very much. The resulting image quality is one that loses very little detail and clarity when compared to a native 4k image. Especially when you are sitting 6 feet or more away from your television. That's why DF says this image is best suited for a 4k HDR television.

Do you really not understand the difference? Or are you trying to conflate the two to make it seem as if the Xbox One X isn't much if any different than the PS4 Pro just because it also doesn't reach native 4k in some games? You even ignore that it is outputting almost 3 times as many pixels with an almost 3 times higher resolution than the PS4 Pro. It's not almost the same, they are vastly different. They are so different that DF the same source cows used as ownage for years recommends you play PS4 Pro games on an 1080p tv while they recommend you play the same games on a 4k HDR tv if you own an X. That is a world of a difference.

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@goldenelementxl said:

So 1800p on a 2160p tv and 30fps is a win? How about both consoles are losers, but the Pro is the bigger loser?

The Xbox One X is at 1800p/30fps while PS4 Pro runs at 1080p/30fps. Both have framerate dips but it should be noted that the Xbox One X loses framerate slightly more often than the Pro. However, DF made it clear that it was nothing to write home about. On the performance mode, the Xbox One X remains in the low 30fps while the Pro jumps all over the place from 30fps up to 50fps. Even though the Pro has a better reach towards the 60fps goal, the inconsistencies doesn't help the experience while the Xbox One X doesn't perform well enough to bother with the mode. DF suggest you are better off with the more stable 30fps mode on both platforms. Overall, they recommend the Xbox One X version as the better console experience.

But if you ask me, PC version is the way to go like always.

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#28 DragonfireXZ95
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"Can hit 60 FPS indoors"

"DF explains it's framerate is too unstable in this mode so the preferred mode is the locked 30 fps on both consoles."

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#29 kingtito
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So the X has a huge resolution advantage, runs better on most games but the cows can ONLY talk about not reaching 4K? Hahahahaha "my console looks and plays inferior but your console didn't hit 4K derp derp derp" man can you BBEEEEEE anymore pathetic cows?

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#31 BenjaminBanklin
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Is this 1800p dynamic? It's stronger than the Pro as expected (probably on medium settings), but that's not really a thing to brag about.

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meanwhile the game runs at native 4k60 on my pc.....

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@ShepardCommandr said:

meanwhile the game runs at native 4k60 on my pc.....

I find that hard to believe

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#34 Black96Z
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^^^YAY!!! Charts!!!^^^ We need more of them!

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#35  Edited By deactivated-60113e7859d7d
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Never thought I'd drop The Evil Within 2. I waited and waited for a possible sequel. The creators didn't understand the first game, Mikami's game. Going semi-open world was dumb. Might return to it, but I'm unhappy with it.

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#36 Pedro
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@i_p_daily said:

Well you know I love stirring cows, but I hate sites like DF & Metashitic, for me they add nothing to our medium other than stupidity from the people who use them.

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#38 mowgly1
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Looks like Pro is more stable version than the X in 30 fps mode. Also it has 60fps mode, although not so stable.

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#39  Edited By Grey_Eyed_Elf
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@GioVela2010 said:
@ShepardCommandr said:

meanwhile the game runs at native 4k60 on my pc.....

I find that hard to believe

  1. Thats at Ultra settings which the X1X and PS4 do NOT run at, with settings ranging from medium to high.
  2. That's a 980 Ti which performs the same as 1070 which is slower than 1070 Ti, 1080, 1080 Ti, Vega 64.

A 1080 Ti on this game on ULTRA gets 45-50FPS at 4K... Drop it to High settings which is higher than the console settings you are looking at 4K/60FPS easy.

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#40 Epak_
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I wish they'd enhance the first Evil Within too, looks pretty horrid now.

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#41 tdkmillsy
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ROFL people bashing the X

PS4 Pro advertised as a 4k console and DF recommended it played on 1080P TV at 1080p

Mighty X causing salty tears yet again.

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#42 MonsieurX
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@tdkmillsy said:

ROFL people bashing the X

PS4 Pro advertised as a 4k console and DF recommended it played on 1080P TV at 1080p

Mighty X causing salty tears yet again.

Not really

https://www.playstation.com/en-au/corporate/press-releases/2016/ps4-pro-launch/

PS4 Pro leverages the latest imaging technology by supporting dynamic 4K quality* resolution and High Dynamic Range (HDR). The powerful CPU and GPU of PS4 Pro allows developers to create higher-quality games that output dynamic 4K quality* graphics with unprecedented visual precision, or smoother and more stable frame rates. Like all PS4 consoles, the system is also compatible with HDR imaging technology that produces more realistic, strikingly vivid visuals that are truer to the way the human eye naturally sees.

* Compatible 4K HDR TV required for 4K and HDR support. Dynamic 4K gaming outputted by graphic rendering or upscaled to 4K resolution; support varies by game title. 4K entertainment via 4K video streaming services only.

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@MonsieurX said:
@tdkmillsy said:

ROFL people bashing the X

PS4 Pro advertised as a 4k console and DF recommended it played on 1080P TV at 1080p

Mighty X causing salty tears yet again.

Not really

https://www.playstation.com/en-au/corporate/press-releases/2016/ps4-pro-launch/

PS4 Pro leverages the latest imaging technology by supporting dynamic 4K quality* resolution and High Dynamic Range (HDR). The powerful CPU and GPU of PS4 Pro allows developers to create higher-quality games that output dynamic 4K quality* graphics with unprecedented visual precision, or smoother and more stable frame rates. Like all PS4 consoles, the system is also compatible with HDR imaging technology that produces more realistic, strikingly vivid visuals that are truer to the way the human eye naturally sees.

* Compatible 4K HDR TV required for 4K and HDR support. Dynamic 4K gaming outputted by graphic rendering or upscaled to 4K resolution; support varies by game title. 4K entertainment via 4K video streaming services only.

Watch the UK advert, clearly advertises it as a 4k console. Nice try.

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#44 MonsieurX
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@tdkmillsy said:
@MonsieurX said:
@tdkmillsy said:

ROFL people bashing the X

PS4 Pro advertised as a 4k console and DF recommended it played on 1080P TV at 1080p

Mighty X causing salty tears yet again.

Not really

https://www.playstation.com/en-au/corporate/press-releases/2016/ps4-pro-launch/

PS4 Pro leverages the latest imaging technology by supporting dynamic 4K quality* resolution and High Dynamic Range (HDR). The powerful CPU and GPU of PS4 Pro allows developers to create higher-quality games that output dynamic 4K quality* graphics with unprecedented visual precision, or smoother and more stable frame rates. Like all PS4 consoles, the system is also compatible with HDR imaging technology that produces more realistic, strikingly vivid visuals that are truer to the way the human eye naturally sees.

* Compatible 4K HDR TV required for 4K and HDR support. Dynamic 4K gaming outputted by graphic rendering or upscaled to 4K resolution; support varies by game title. 4K entertainment via 4K video streaming services only.

Watch the UK advert, clearly advertises it as a 4k console. Nice try.

But that's the official press release

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@MonsieurX said:
@tdkmillsy said:
@MonsieurX said:
@tdkmillsy said:

ROFL people bashing the X

PS4 Pro advertised as a 4k console and DF recommended it played on 1080P TV at 1080p

Mighty X causing salty tears yet again.

Not really

https://www.playstation.com/en-au/corporate/press-releases/2016/ps4-pro-launch/

PS4 Pro leverages the latest imaging technology by supporting dynamic 4K quality* resolution and High Dynamic Range (HDR). The powerful CPU and GPU of PS4 Pro allows developers to create higher-quality games that output dynamic 4K quality* graphics with unprecedented visual precision, or smoother and more stable frame rates. Like all PS4 consoles, the system is also compatible with HDR imaging technology that produces more realistic, strikingly vivid visuals that are truer to the way the human eye naturally sees.

* Compatible 4K HDR TV required for 4K and HDR support. Dynamic 4K gaming outputted by graphic rendering or upscaled to 4K resolution; support varies by game title. 4K entertainment via 4K video streaming services only.

Watch the UK advert, clearly advertises it as a 4k console. Nice try.

But that's the official press release

A press release from 2016, in the run up to Christmas 2017 Sony clearly advertised the PS4 Pro as a 4k console in the UK.

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#46  Edited By GioVela2010
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@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:
@GioVela2010 said:
@ShepardCommandr said:

meanwhile the game runs at native 4k60 on my pc.....

I find that hard to believe

  1. Thats at Ultra settings which the X1X and PS4 do NOT run at, with settings ranging from medium to high.
  2. That's a 980 Ti which performs the same as 1070 which is slower than 1070 Ti, 1080, 1080 Ti, Vega 64.

A 1080 Ti on this game on ULTRA gets 45-50FPS at 4K... Drop it to High settings which is higher than the console settings you are looking at 4K/60FPS easy.

Stop the bullshit, switching between Ultra to High Settings hardly makes a performance difference with this game.

You’re not gonna get 4K and 60 FPS with a 1080ti, let alone a 1070ti with this game.

If you want 60FPS, you’re gonna need to play at 1440p with a 1080ti, and even than the frames dipped to 47 FPS in the video below

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ELM0OiPHTdQ

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Also isn’t HDR exclusive to X1X with this game ?

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#48 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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@GioVela2010 said:
@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:
@GioVela2010 said:
@ShepardCommandr said:

meanwhile the game runs at native 4k60 on my pc.....

I find that hard to believe

  1. Thats at Ultra settings which the X1X and PS4 do NOT run at, with settings ranging from medium to high.
  2. That's a 980 Ti which performs the same as 1070 which is slower than 1070 Ti, 1080, 1080 Ti, Vega 64.

A 1080 Ti on this game on ULTRA gets 45-50FPS at 4K... Drop it to High settings which is higher than the console settings you are looking at 4K/60FPS easy.

Stop the bullshit, switching between Ultra to High Settings hardly makes a performance difference with this game.

You’re not gonna get 4K and 60 FPS with a 1080ti, let alone a 1070ti with this game.

If you want 60FPS, you’re gonna need to play at 1440p with a 1080ti, and even than the frames dipped to 47 FPS in the video below

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ELM0OiPHTdQ

Hmm... Just looked into it and damn I guess this is one of those rare poorly made games where settings don't make much of a difference. Also that GPU utilisation is bad.

That being said I said it once and I will say it again, brute force on PC fixes everything... 4K/60 is achievable with a 1080 Ti, just need to overclock that thing and lower settings.

Mine runs at 2050Mhz, this one runs at 1860 and gets 45-55FPS on Ultra so that extra 5FPS from the overclock and 5-8FPS from the setting drop should give a close 4k/60FPS

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#50 DrLostRib
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@metalboi said:

How much is M$ paying you for all this work?

They should get a refund