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#101 shungokustasu
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[QUOTE="tovarischs"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"] Somehow if I said I'm loyal to Blizzard or Bioware (overrated comapny) I would be looked at a little different. Since it's Sony I'm loser, a fanboy (I call myself a fanman), dork, geek, you name it.

Ok, that Bioware statement only proves you don't know jack about games.

I said I wouldn't post again, but uhh, BioWare and Blizzard are probably the only two companies that haven't put out any bad games. Jade Empire wasn't as good as it could've been, but any of BioWare's other games (which they were developer on, and not merely sequels to their games made by other developers) have been top quality. -John

That's how I feel about most Sony products... How can it be ok to say I support all blizzard games, and then say it's wrong not to support all Sony products?
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#102 TheCrazed420
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[QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"] Somehow if I said I'm loyal to Blizzard or Bioware (overrated comapny) I would be looked at a little different. Since it's Sony I'm loser, a fanboy (I call myself a fanman), dork, geek, you name it.-The-G-Man-

Ok, that Bioware statement only proves you don't know jack about games.

Not everyone has to like Bioware, dude.

You don't have to like Bioware, but to say they're overrated is stupid.
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#103 Bgrngod
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[QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"] Somehow if I said I'm loyal to Blizzard or Bioware (overrated comapny) I would be looked at a little different. Since it's Sony I'm loser, a fanboy (I call myself a fanman), dork, geek, you name it.-The-G-Man-

Ok, that Bioware statement only proves you don't know jack about games.

Not everyone has to like Bioware, dude.

I understand that, but Bioware still put out one game after another to great reviews. Saying they are overrated is like saying these reviews are not justified, not that you just don't personally like them.
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#104 Dr_DudeMan
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[QUOTE="tovarischs"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"] Somehow if I said I'm loyal to Blizzard or Bioware (overrated comapny) I would be looked at a little different. Since it's Sony I'm loser, a fanboy (I call myself a fanman), dork, geek, you name it.

Ok, that Bioware statement only proves you don't know jack about games.

I said I wouldn't post again, but uhh, BioWare and Blizzard are probably the only two companies that haven't put out any bad games. Jade Empire wasn't as good as it could've been, but any of BioWare's other games (which they were developer on, and not merely sequels to their games made by other developers) have been top quality. -John

If you think jade empire was bad then you must be confused.
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#105 tovarischs
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="tovarischs"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"] Somehow if I said I'm loyal to Blizzard or Bioware (overrated comapny) I would be looked at a little different. Since it's Sony I'm loser, a fanboy (I call myself a fanman), dork, geek, you name it.

Ok, that Bioware statement only proves you don't know jack about games.

I said I wouldn't post again, but uhh, BioWare and Blizzard are probably the only two companies that haven't put out any bad games. Jade Empire wasn't as good as it could've been, but any of BioWare's other games (which they were developer on, and not merely sequels to their games made by other developers) have been top quality. -John

That's how I feel about most Sony products... How can it be ok to say I support all blizzard games, and then say it's wrong not to support all Sony products?

It's not wrong. However, if BioWare released a terrible, terrible game, then I'd make my displeasure felt. You're suggesting that if Sony released a terrible, terribly system, you'd still buy it to show support. I don't believe in blind loyalty, even to a company like BioWare, where I KNOW a number of employees and where I aspire to work someday. You support success, not failure. They fail, you let your displeasure be felt so they know to do better next time. -John
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#106 shungokustasu
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Wow people it is metal and plastic not a the Holy Grail for you to follow with such loyalty. Trust me i promise you Sony does not know who you are also they will never come to your door and say thank you. I have been playing games since the atari 2600 and have owned a system from almost every company like sega,MS,Nintendo, and yes Sony. Play whatever system brings you the most fun. Some of these games takes many hours to finish so you might as well play the ones bring you the most fun. If it is PS3 fine but in no way play just cause you feel you have to follow Sony no matter what. Sorry to say but some of you act like if sony said to jump off a bridge you would.rybe1025
Sad. I never ask for Sony love and affection. I only ask them to continue to make good products. I don't need a thank you card or a love letter saying we notice you buy a lot of our products. That what people with soft minds and hearts need.
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#107 tovarischs
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[QUOTE="Dr_DudeMan"][QUOTE="tovarischs"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"] Somehow if I said I'm loyal to Blizzard or Bioware (overrated comapny) I would be looked at a little different. Since it's Sony I'm loser, a fanboy (I call myself a fanman), dork, geek, you name it.

Ok, that Bioware statement only proves you don't know jack about games.

I said I wouldn't post again, but uhh, BioWare and Blizzard are probably the only two companies that haven't put out any bad games. Jade Empire wasn't as good as it could've been, but any of BioWare's other games (which they were developer on, and not merely sequels to their games made by other developers) have been top quality. -John

If you think jade empire was bad then you must be confused.

I didn't think it was bad, just not the same level as some of their other games. KOTOR is my favourite RPG of all time, Jade Empire was a bit of a letdown after that. Still, a very solid game. For most other companies, it would've been an a-list title. For BioWare, it was a little worse than I expected. -John
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#108 Bgrngod
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="tovarischs"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"] Somehow if I said I'm loyal to Blizzard or Bioware (overrated comapny) I would be looked at a little different. Since it's Sony I'm loser, a fanboy (I call myself a fanman), dork, geek, you name it.

Ok, that Bioware statement only proves you don't know jack about games.

I said I wouldn't post again, but uhh, BioWare and Blizzard are probably the only two companies that haven't put out any bad games. Jade Empire wasn't as good as it could've been, but any of BioWare's other games (which they were developer on, and not merely sequels to their games made by other developers) have been top quality. -John

That's how I feel about most Sony products... How can it be ok to say I support all blizzard games, and then say it's wrong not to support all Sony products?

What?
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#109 Dr_DudeMan
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

Yeah, that's what Sony is saying about their success in the video game industry. Even if not a Sony fan, you have to admire the push they are doing. Sony has been through the gauntlet of bad press, and still will manage to come out on top like the giants they are. People say blu-ray will flop. It has succeeded. People say it can't do better graphics. Heavenly Sword shows up. People say the online is terrible. PS Home closed down shop. You can't background download on the PS3. I can have up to 6 download screens now. 4 more than the Xbox360. Nobody want's HDTVs. 60% increase in HDTV sales over the holidays. Also, Xbox360 is now making a console to support HDMI. PS3 is only out to make money. yeah, well my PS3 is helping to cure cancer. Such a benevolent act for a company to do. PS3 does nothave any games. Heavenly Sword, DMC4, Rachet and Clank, GTAIV, Tekken 6, Socom 4, and many, many others are all coming soon within the next year. Haters are running out of excuses on why the PS3 will fail. here is a quote from PS3 for those who choose not to buy one.

PS3: "You lost one. Let go to gain some. Lose some to win some. Sorry, I'm a champion."

Wahoo2k

good points, however, the last point still stands simply because you proved it by quoting no games out at the moment.

oh yeah, also, out of the games you listed how many are exclusives?

First off motorstorm and resistance are amazing games that are both exclusive. Second off the only really amazing exclusives 360 has are gears and HD burnout imo (big burnout fan). I love watching the fanboys attack the ps3's must own games because frankily the 360 consists of mostly must rent games. And both have oblivion which is an amazing game that can no longer be used as ownage for the 360.
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#110 Kook18
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Can't you just like a company? whats the point of being a fanboy about it? I mean I like squareenix but i haven't thrown all my money at them because frankly, they make some pretty crappy games every now & then.
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#111 Bgrngod
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"]Wow people it is metal and plastic not a the Holy Grail for you to follow with such loyalty. Trust me i promise you Sony does not know who you are also they will never come to your door and say thank you. I have been playing games since the atari 2600 and have owned a system from almost every company like sega,MS,Nintendo, and yes Sony. Play whatever system brings you the most fun. Some of these games takes many hours to finish so you might as well play the ones bring you the most fun. If it is PS3 fine but in no way play just cause you feel you have to follow Sony no matter what. Sorry to say but some of you act like if sony said to jump off a bridge you would.shungokustasu
Sad. I never ask for Sony love and affection. I only ask them to continue to make good products. I don't need a thank you card or a love letter saying we notice you buy a lot of our products. That what people with soft minds and hearts need.

But by blindly buying one of their crappy products you are no longer asking them to continue to make good products. You are telling them "make whatever, I'll buy it!". That is why being loyal to brands is a bad thing.
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#112 shungokustasu
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

Dude, if you are going to kiss Sony's butt so much, why don't you apply for job with them? Seriously.

No company deserves this much devotion unless they are paying you. And even then you should at least try to be somewhat objective about things..

Blue-Sphere

I should be getting paid, but I'm not. That's what loyalty is all about. Something 360 fans can't understand. Sony deserves alot for what it did and what it's doing for gaming. My loyalty for Sony goes pass gaming though. Even Bill Gates himself said "Sony could sell bricks and sell 80,000 in one day". That's the respect and loyalty we have for Sony. "loyal to the end".

Or Playstation 3 developers lol.

You are one blind Sony fan if ever saw one. This kinda devotion to a machine is actually sad. I wish you had more devotion to actual games then the system itself.

The only devotion any true gamer should ever have is to great games.

Somehow if I said I'm loyal to Blizzard or Bioware (overrated comapny) I would be looked at a little different. Since it's Sony I'm loser, a fanboy (I call myself a fanman), dork, geek, you name it.

Of course you would. PS3 isn't doing well, so yeah, your gonna get called a fanboy. A year from now, the PS3 could be on top, who knows.

Though, you keep talking about your loyalty to Sony. So MS and Nintendo don't have any loyal fans? :? MS probably has the least amount of loyal fans, but at least as of right now, that number is growing, while Nintendo and Sony have a substantial amount of loyal fans. However even the most loyal of Sony fans as of right now, either have no plans on getting a PS3 or are simply waiting until a price drop, better gamers, maybe both, etc.

You see you ok with MS and Nintendo having loyal fans. however this post gets a little upset when you a loyal fan of Sony...You don't think that's wrong?
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#113 Dr_DudeMan
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[QUOTE="tovarischs"][QUOTE="Dr_DudeMan"][QUOTE="tovarischs"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"] Somehow if I said I'm loyal to Blizzard or Bioware (overrated comapny) I would be looked at a little different. Since it's Sony I'm loser, a fanboy (I call myself a fanman), dork, geek, you name it.

Ok, that Bioware statement only proves you don't know jack about games.

I said I wouldn't post again, but uhh, BioWare and Blizzard are probably the only two companies that haven't put out any bad games. Jade Empire wasn't as good as it could've been, but any of BioWare's other games (which they were developer on, and not merely sequels to their games made by other developers) have been top quality. -John

If you think jade empire was bad then you must be confused.

I didn't think it was bad, just not the same level as some of their other games. KOTOR is my favourite RPG of all time, Jade Empire was a bit of a letdown after that. Still, a very solid game. For most other companies, it would've been an a-list title. For BioWare, it was a little worse than I expected. -John

Well in this case to each his own. Kotor is great but I think people give it a little too much regard just because it lets them live out their star wars fantasies, where as jade empire is ground-up original and the art direction is fantastic. I have just about every bioware game (lol), and of the newer ones I must say jade empire is my favorite. Mass Effect is looking to take the crown shortly though.
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#114 -The-G-Man-
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[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]

[QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"] Somehow if I said I'm loyal to Blizzard or Bioware (overrated comapny) I would be looked at a little different. Since it's Sony I'm loser, a fanboy (I call myself a fanman), dork, geek, you name it.Bgrngod

Ok, that Bioware statement only proves you don't know jack about games.

Not everyone has to like Bioware, dude.

I understand that, but Bioware still put out one game after another to great reviews. Saying they are overrated is like saying these reviews are not justified, not that you just don't personally like them.

Well, usually when someone says something is overrated they just don't like it.

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#115 Blackbond
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This guys loyalty is scary. Like he's in a Cult or is brainwashed. There is nothing wrong with liking Sony but I wouldn't doubt it if he'd take a bullet for this company.
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#116 PullTheTricker
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[QUOTE="Kook18"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

Dude, if you are going to kiss Sony's butt so much, why don't you apply for job with them? Seriously.

No company deserves this much devotion unless they are paying you. And even then you should at least try to be somewhat objective about things..

shungokustasu
i don't get it either, why people are so willing to follow a company rather than just follow whats good out atm. sony is pathetic atm. if the tables were turned & ms was the one getting pummeled by sony in games and hardware, then i'd be all over the ps3.

Follow games? games come and go. Sony offers more than a game. This my sound crazy, but gaming is not all about gaming. Why do you think XBL is a big hit? It brought more to gaming. Look at WOW? That more than gaming. It's about nerds and geeks gamers in a community working together to make a virtual world safer. That's more than gaming. "loyal to the end."

Nerds an geeks? Speak foryourself... stereotype
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#117 shungokustasu
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="rybe1025"]Wow people it is metal and plastic not a the Holy Grail for you to follow with such loyalty. Trust me i promise you Sony does not know who you are also they will never come to your door and say thank you. I have been playing games since the atari 2600 and have owned a system from almost every company like sega,MS,Nintendo, and yes Sony. Play whatever system brings you the most fun. Some of these games takes many hours to finish so you might as well play the ones bring you the most fun. If it is PS3 fine but in no way play just cause you feel you have to follow Sony no matter what. Sorry to say but some of you act like if sony said to jump off a bridge you would.Bgrngod
Sad. I never ask for Sony love and affection. I only ask them to continue to make good products. I don't need a thank you card or a love letter saying we notice you buy a lot of our products. That what people with soft minds and hearts need.

But by blindly buying one of their crappy products you are no longer asking them to continue to make good products. You are telling them "make whatever, I'll buy it!". That is why being loyal to brands is a bad thing.

No... I didn't buy a Wega because I thought sony made bad moves on that TV. I actually supported the fact they got in to the HDTV deal. I wish they do a little bit bette. Now they have a great HDTV product called Bravia.
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#118 tovarischs
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[QUOTE="Dr_DudeMan"][QUOTE="tovarischs"] I didn't think it was bad, just not the same level as some of their other games. KOTOR is my favourite RPG of all time, Jade Empire was a bit of a letdown after that. Still, a very solid game. For most other companies, it would've been an a-list title. For BioWare, it was a little worse than I expected. -John

Well in this case to each his own. Kotor is great but I think people give it a little too much regard just because it lets them live out their star wars fantasies, where as jade empire is ground-up original and the art direction is fantastic. I have just about every bioware game (lol), and of the newer ones I must say jade empire is my favorite. Mass Effect is looking to take the crown shortly though.

Mass Effect is looking absolutely bloody fantastic, and possibly the first 'must own' game for the 360 (even though I'd consider Gears one of those, a lot of people disagree). And yes, I loved how Jade Empire was their own IP; my love for KOTOR, though, had less to do with the Star Wars setting and more to do with the fact that I just really enjoyed the character development and gameplay. I can understand where you're coming from though, and I certainly won't disagree that it's very much a matter of 'to each their own'. -John
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#119 Dr_DudeMan
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="rybe1025"]Wow people it is metal and plastic not a the Holy Grail for you to follow with such loyalty. Trust me i promise you Sony does not know who you are also they will never come to your door and say thank you. I have been playing games since the atari 2600 and have owned a system from almost every company like sega,MS,Nintendo, and yes Sony. Play whatever system brings you the most fun. Some of these games takes many hours to finish so you might as well play the ones bring you the most fun. If it is PS3 fine but in no way play just cause you feel you have to follow Sony no matter what. Sorry to say but some of you act like if sony said to jump off a bridge you would.Bgrngod
Sad. I never ask for Sony love and affection. I only ask them to continue to make good products. I don't need a thank you card or a love letter saying we notice you buy a lot of our products. That what people with soft minds and hearts need.

But by blindly buying one of their crappy products you are no longer asking them to continue to make good products. You are telling them "make whatever, I'll buy it!". That is why being loyal to brands is a bad thing.

PS3 is far from a crappy product. The technology is amazing (sure itll take a couple years to get going), there are a lot of future great exclusives, and they are making an obvious effort to out do MS and competition is good for ps3 and 360 owners. The psp on the other hand is a bit of a disaster which is why it is being completely redone, but just because they messed up their first handheld doesnt by default mean the ps3 is crap. The ps3 is fantastic.
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#120 kcpp2b
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="Fr3357YL3"]Wow you are uninformed. Do yourself a favor and stop posting.metalmonkey268

There is nothing there that misinformed. You should stop posting.

 

I'm pretty sure the 360 and PS3 support the same amount of queued downloads.

According to one of the Cows no, 360 does 2 and PS3 does 6. I guess Sony Fanboys know all the facts 

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#121 Blackbond
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"Wait, wait, wait. You mean there are other consoles besides Sony's?" 

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#122 shungokustasu
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A bit off topic here, but Bioware is very overrated. Seriously I post about this a couple months back, and got alot of flack for it. I still don't see Bioware as a 'great company'. Not comapred to EA, Capcom, Nintendo, and Blizzard. When they make a video game that hits mainstream audience then maybe. As for right now, at best Bioware is like top 15 not Top 5 or 10.
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#123 jmorey01
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[QUOTE="-Spock-"]

I agree that it's not nearly as bad as people make it out to be, but we should wait and see if it really does come out on top this gen. It'll be very close is all I can say, due to the Wii's monster sales and the 360's 10 million head start.

 

PS2Hawk

Wii is not next gen in any way and if you think you can survive with WIi then you are not a gmer there is not a single game worth playing on that POS its only selling because of the MTV generation looser are trying to be hip and get into gaming .... f******* loosers

Awful grammar aside, here's a box of tissues. 

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[QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="rybe1025"]Wow people it is metal and plastic not a the Holy Grail for you to follow with such loyalty. Trust me i promise you Sony does not know who you are also they will never come to your door and say thank you. I have been playing games since the atari 2600 and have owned a system from almost every company like sega,MS,Nintendo, and yes Sony. Play whatever system brings you the most fun. Some of these games takes many hours to finish so you might as well play the ones bring you the most fun. If it is PS3 fine but in no way play just cause you feel you have to follow Sony no matter what. Sorry to say but some of you act like if sony said to jump off a bridge you would.shungokustasu
Sad. I never ask for Sony love and affection. I only ask them to continue to make good products. I don't need a thank you card or a love letter saying we notice you buy a lot of our products. That what people with soft minds and hearts need.

But by blindly buying one of their crappy products you are no longer asking them to continue to make good products. You are telling them "make whatever, I'll buy it!". That is why being loyal to brands is a bad thing.

No... I didn't buy a Wega because I thought sony made bad moves on that TV. I actually supported the fact they got in to the HDTV deal. I wish they do a little bit bette. Now they have a great HDTV product called Bravia.

if you really do enjoy PS3 over the other systems great and they have games you prefer. Just never ever buy a system just cause it says Sony or nintendo or MS or whatever. And you mentioned companys such as bioware. For me I may give a game from them a better look then rest or other developers I like but does not mean I will buy their game.

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Yeah, that's what Sony is saying about their success in the video game industry. Even if not a Sony fan, you have to admire the push they are doing. Sony has been through the gauntlet of bad press, and still will manage to come out on top like the giants they are. People say blu-ray will flop. It has succeeded. People say it can't do better graphics. Heavenly Sword shows up. People say the online is terrible. PS Home closed down shop. You can't background download on the PS3. I can have up to 6 download screens now. 4 more than the Xbox360. Nobody want's HDTVs. 60% increase in HDTV sales over the holidays. Also, Xbox360 is now making a console to support HDMI. PS3 is only out to make money. yeah, well my PS3 is helping to cure cancer. Such a benevolent act for a company to do. PS3 does nothave any games. Heavenly Sword, DMC4, Rachet and Clank, GTAIV, Tekken 6, Socom 4, and many, many others are all coming soon within the next year. Haters are running out of excuses on why the PS3 will fail. here is a quote from PS3 for those who choose not to buy one.

 

PS3: "You lost one. Let go to gain some. Lose some to win some. Sorry, I'm a champion."

shungokustasu

 

All good points, but i didn't buy my ps3 to cure cancer, i bought it to play games, and so far all i'm playing is RFOM and soon to buy oblivion. i want games already!!!! 

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A bit off topic here, but Bioware is very overrated. Seriously I post about this a couple months back, and got alot of flack for it. I still don't see Bioware as a 'great company'. Not comapred to EA, Capcom, Nintendo, and Blizzard. When they make a video game that hits mainstream audience then maybe. As for right now, at best Bioware is like top 15 not Top 5 or 10.shungokustasu
So suddenly popular equals good? BioWare is very well-regarded within the industry and among most gamers; they just don't release 431 expansion packs for the Sims in order to make a quick buck. EA is probably the worst company out there right now, in terms of innovation and in terms of how they view the customers; as giant walking dollar signs with eyes. I'll give you Capcom and Nintendo, hell, I'll even spot you Blizzard (even though I think WoW is the biggest marketing gimmick of all time) but EA? No sir, sorry. -John
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#127 shungokustasu
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

Yeah, that's what Sony is saying about their success in the video game industry. Even if not a Sony fan, you have to admire the push they are doing. Sony has been through the gauntlet of bad press, and still will manage to come out on top like the giants they are. People say blu-ray will flop. It has succeeded. People say it can't do better graphics. Heavenly Sword shows up. People say the online is terrible. PS Home closed down shop. You can't background download on the PS3. I can have up to 6 download screens now. 4 more than the Xbox360. Nobody want's HDTVs. 60% increase in HDTV sales over the holidays. Also, Xbox360 is now making a console to support HDMI. PS3 is only out to make money. yeah, well my PS3 is helping to cure cancer. Such a benevolent act for a company to do. PS3 does nothave any games. Heavenly Sword, DMC4, Rachet and Clank, GTAIV, Tekken 6, Socom 4, and many, many others are all coming soon within the next year. Haters are running out of excuses on why the PS3 will fail. here is a quote from PS3 for those who choose not to buy one.

PS3: "You lost one. Let go to gain some. Lose some to win some. Sorry, I'm a champion."

thejakel11225

All good points, but i didn't buy my ps3 to cure cancer, i bought it to play games, and so far all i'm playing is RFOM and soon to buy oblivion. i want games already!!!!

Help cure cancer > R:FOM
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Yay for 14year olds making more dumb threads
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#129 Blackbond
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A bit off topic here, but Bioware is very overrated. Seriously I post about this a couple months back, and got alot of flack for it. I still don't see Bioware as a 'great company'. Not comapred to EA, Capcom, Nintendo, and Blizzard. When they make a video game that hits mainstream audience then maybe. As for right now, at best Bioware is like top 15 not Top 5 or 10.shungokustasu

And that is overrated? Oh my goodness. You're going to say that they are in the top 15 and claim them to be overrated? What the heck kinda games do you buy? I've never been a huge fan of Bioware but I wouldn't go on to say a dev is in the top 15 of best devs and then call them overrated lol.

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#130 TheCrazed420
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[QUOTE="thejakel11225"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

Yeah, that's what Sony is saying about their success in the video game industry. Even if not a Sony fan, you have to admire the push they are doing. Sony has been through the gauntlet of bad press, and still will manage to come out on top like the giants they are. People say blu-ray will flop. It has succeeded. People say it can't do better graphics. Heavenly Sword shows up. People say the online is terrible. PS Home closed down shop. You can't background download on the PS3. I can have up to 6 download screens now. 4 more than the Xbox360. Nobody want's HDTVs. 60% increase in HDTV sales over the holidays. Also, Xbox360 is now making a console to support HDMI. PS3 is only out to make money. yeah, well my PS3 is helping to cure cancer. Such a benevolent act for a company to do. PS3 does nothave any games. Heavenly Sword, DMC4, Rachet and Clank, GTAIV, Tekken 6, Socom 4, and many, many others are all coming soon within the next year. Haters are running out of excuses on why the PS3 will fail. here is a quote from PS3 for those who choose not to buy one.

PS3: "You lost one. Let go to gain some. Lose some to win some. Sorry, I'm a champion."

shungokustasu

All good points, but i didn't buy my ps3 to cure cancer, i bought it to play games, and so far all i'm playing is RFOM and soon to buy oblivion. i want games already!!!!

Help cure cancer > R:FOM

Dude, you bought a GAMING CONSOLE. You wanna go cure cancer, go to school and become a doctor.
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[QUOTE="thejakel11225"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

Yeah, that's what Sony is saying about their success in the video game industry. Even if not a Sony fan, you have to admire the push they are doing. Sony has been through the gauntlet of bad press, and still will manage to come out on top like the giants they are. People say blu-ray will flop. It has succeeded. People say it can't do better graphics. Heavenly Sword shows up. People say the online is terrible. PS Home closed down shop. You can't background download on the PS3. I can have up to 6 download screens now. 4 more than the Xbox360. Nobody want's HDTVs. 60% increase in HDTV sales over the holidays. Also, Xbox360 is now making a console to support HDMI. PS3 is only out to make money. yeah, well my PS3 is helping to cure cancer. Such a benevolent act for a company to do. PS3 does nothave any games. Heavenly Sword, DMC4, Rachet and Clank, GTAIV, Tekken 6, Socom 4, and many, many others are all coming soon within the next year. Haters are running out of excuses on why the PS3 will fail. here is a quote from PS3 for those who choose not to buy one.

 

PS3: "You lost one. Let go to gain some. Lose some to win some. Sorry, I'm a champion."

shungokustasu

 

All good points, but i didn't buy my ps3 to cure cancer, i bought it to play games, and so far all i'm playing is RFOM and soon to buy oblivion. i want games already!!!!

Help cure cancer > R:FOM

Why are you here posting when you could be volunteering to help cure cancer. Go do that now... go 

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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]A bit off topic here, but Bioware is very overrated. Seriously I post about this a couple months back, and got alot of flack for it. I still don't see Bioware as a 'great company'. Not comapred to EA, Capcom, Nintendo, and Blizzard. When they make a video game that hits mainstream audience then maybe. As for right now, at best Bioware is like top 15 not Top 5 or 10.tovarischs
So suddenly popular equals good? BioWare is very well-regarded within the industry and among most gamers; they just don't release 431 expansion packs for the Sims in order to make a quick buck. EA is probably the worst company out there right now, in terms of innovation and in terms of how they view the customers; as giant walking dollar signs with eyes. I'll give you Capcom and Nintendo, hell, I'll even spot you Blizzard (even though I think WoW is the biggest marketing gimmick of all time) but EA? No sir, sorry. -John

i lol'd when he mentioned EA, I'm not even gonna bother coming back to this thread after that. EA is probably one of the top 5 worst. Ruining the Football genre, making cheap cash on movie licensed games & practically all of the new I.P.s they make have been generic mediocrity.
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What?
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#134 shungokustasu
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]A bit off topic here, but Bioware is very overrated. Seriously I post about this a couple months back, and got alot of flack for it. I still don't see Bioware as a 'great company'. Not comapred to EA, Capcom, Nintendo, and Blizzard. When they make a video game that hits mainstream audience then maybe. As for right now, at best Bioware is like top 15 not Top 5 or 10.tovarischs
So suddenly popular equals good? BioWare is very well-regarded within the industry and among most gamers; they just don't release 431 expansion packs for the Sims in order to make a quick buck. EA is probably the worst company out there right now, in terms of innovation and in terms of how they view the customers; as giant walking dollar signs with eyes. I'll give you Capcom and Nintendo, hell, I'll even spot you Blizzard (even though I think WoW is the biggest marketing gimmick of all time) but EA? No sir, sorry. -John

lol, I speak so direct, yet people never understand me. I never said Bioware was not good, but overrated. I think people put them in the top 5 or top 10 when all honestly they belong in the top 15 maybe 20. That's still good. I actually played the earlier Biooware games and enjoyed them. Not as much as games from nintendo, Blizzard, EA, or Konami. Good comapny but not up their with the elite.
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#135 shungokustasu
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[QUOTE="tovarischs"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]A bit off topic here, but Bioware is very overrated. Seriously I post about this a couple months back, and got alot of flack for it. I still don't see Bioware as a 'great company'. Not comapred to EA, Capcom, Nintendo, and Blizzard. When they make a video game that hits mainstream audience then maybe. As for right now, at best Bioware is like top 15 not Top 5 or 10.Kook18
So suddenly popular equals good? BioWare is very well-regarded within the industry and among most gamers; they just don't release 431 expansion packs for the Sims in order to make a quick buck. EA is probably the worst company out there right now, in terms of innovation and in terms of how they view the customers; as giant walking dollar signs with eyes. I'll give you Capcom and Nintendo, hell, I'll even spot you Blizzard (even though I think WoW is the biggest marketing gimmick of all time) but EA? No sir, sorry. -John

i lol'd when he mentioned EA, I'm not even gonna bother coming back to this thread after that. EA is probably one of the top 5 worst. Ruining the Football genre, making cheap cash on movie licensed games & practically all of the new I.P.s they make have been generic mediocrity.

Then why do they sell so well?
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="thejakel11225"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

Yeah, that's what Sony is saying about their success in the video game industry. Even if not a Sony fan, you have to admire the push they are doing. Sony has been through the gauntlet of bad press, and still will manage to come out on top like the giants they are. People say blu-ray will flop. It has succeeded. People say it can't do better graphics. Heavenly Sword shows up. People say the online is terrible. PS Home closed down shop. You can't background download on the PS3. I can have up to 6 download screens now. 4 more than the Xbox360. Nobody want's HDTVs. 60% increase in HDTV sales over the holidays. Also, Xbox360 is now making a console to support HDMI. PS3 is only out to make money. yeah, well my PS3 is helping to cure cancer. Such a benevolent act for a company to do. PS3 does nothave any games. Heavenly Sword, DMC4, Rachet and Clank, GTAIV, Tekken 6, Socom 4, and many, many others are all coming soon within the next year. Haters are running out of excuses on why the PS3 will fail. here is a quote from PS3 for those who choose not to buy one.

PS3: "You lost one. Let go to gain some. Lose some to win some. Sorry, I'm a champion."

kcpp2b

All good points, but i didn't buy my ps3 to cure cancer, i bought it to play games, and so far all i'm playing is RFOM and soon to buy oblivion. i want games already!!!!

Help cure cancer > R:FOM

Why are you here posting when you could be volunteering to help cure cancer. Go do that now... go

Umm. My PS3 is on...
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"] lol, I speak so direct, yet people never understand me. I never said Bioware was not good, but overrated. I think people put them in the top 5 or top 10 when all honestly they belong in the top 15 maybe 20. That's still good. I actually played the earlier Biooware games and enjoyed them. Not as much as games from nintendo, Blizzard, EA, or Konami. Good comapny but not up their with the elite.

EA. EA!! Are you aware that in most circles, EA is synonymous with 'Let's Screw The Consumer!'? You're entitled to your opinion though, and I'll stop bashing you for having one. I'd put BioWare as one of the top three developers of the last 10 years, with Blizzard and Valve being in there too. Others will disagree, no doubt. -John
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#138 tovarischs
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[QUOTE="Kook18"][QUOTE="tovarischs"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]A bit off topic here, but Bioware is very overrated. Seriously I post about this a couple months back, and got alot of flack for it. I still don't see Bioware as a 'great company'. Not comapred to EA, Capcom, Nintendo, and Blizzard. When they make a video game that hits mainstream audience then maybe. As for right now, at best Bioware is like top 15 not Top 5 or 10.shungokustasu
So suddenly popular equals good? BioWare is very well-regarded within the industry and among most gamers; they just don't release 431 expansion packs for the Sims in order to make a quick buck. EA is probably the worst company out there right now, in terms of innovation and in terms of how they view the customers; as giant walking dollar signs with eyes. I'll give you Capcom and Nintendo, hell, I'll even spot you Blizzard (even though I think WoW is the biggest marketing gimmick of all time) but EA? No sir, sorry. -John

i lol'd when he mentioned EA, I'm not even gonna bother coming back to this thread after that. EA is probably one of the top 5 worst. Ruining the Football genre, making cheap cash on movie licensed games & practically all of the new I.P.s they make have been generic mediocrity.

Then why do they sell so well?

Because people get locked into buying patterns. Hell, I hate EA but yet I buy their new NHL title every freaking year. Why? Because I always have. And people, for some stupid reason, love Sims games. I don't know why, the only good one was the first one, but hey, to each their own. -John
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A bit off topic here, but Bioware is very overrated. Seriously I post about this a couple months back, and got alot of flack for it. I still don't see Bioware as a 'great company'. Not comapred to EA, Capcom, Nintendo, and Blizzard. When they make a video game that hits mainstream audience then maybe. As for right now, at best Bioware is like top 15 not Top 5 or 10.shungokustasu
LOL! You didnt just say that EA and capcom and nintendo are better then bioware? Bioware owns all of them except blizzard. Hands down.
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And as far as the curing cancer. lets see several 10,000s of doctors from schools such as M.I.T. , Yale, Stanford and etc. have not found a cure yet but 15 year olds with a ps3 are the key now? hmmm ya that aint gonna happen so my bets on the doctors still.
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#141 Kook18
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="Kook18"][QUOTE="tovarischs"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]A bit off topic here, but Bioware is very overrated. Seriously I post about this a couple months back, and got alot of flack for it. I still don't see Bioware as a 'great company'. Not comapred to EA, Capcom, Nintendo, and Blizzard. When they make a video game that hits mainstream audience then maybe. As for right now, at best Bioware is like top 15 not Top 5 or 10.tovarischs
So suddenly popular equals good? BioWare is very well-regarded within the industry and among most gamers; they just don't release 431 expansion packs for the Sims in order to make a quick buck. EA is probably the worst company out there right now, in terms of innovation and in terms of how they view the customers; as giant walking dollar signs with eyes. I'll give you Capcom and Nintendo, hell, I'll even spot you Blizzard (even though I think WoW is the biggest marketing gimmick of all time) but EA? No sir, sorry. -John

i lol'd when he mentioned EA, I'm not even gonna bother coming back to this thread after that. EA is probably one of the top 5 worst. Ruining the Football genre, making cheap cash on movie licensed games & practically all of the new I.P.s they make have been generic mediocrity.

Then why do they sell so well?

Because people get locked into buying patterns. Hell, I hate EA but yet I buy their new NHL title every freaking year. Why? Because I always have. And people, for some stupid reason, love Sims games. I don't know why, the only good one was the first one, but hey, to each their own. -John

& probably since EA has exclusive rights to the nfl name/logo whatever? people don't really have options anymore.
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[QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]

[QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"] Somehow if I said I'm loyal to Blizzard or Bioware (overrated comapny) I would be looked at a little different. Since it's Sony I'm loser, a fanboy (I call myself a fanman), dork, geek, you name it.-The-G-Man-

Ok, that Bioware statement only proves you don't know jack about games.

Not everyone has to like Bioware, dude.

I understand that, but Bioware still put out one game after another to great reviews. Saying they are overrated is like saying these reviews are not justified, not that you just don't personally like them.

Well, usually when someone says something is overrated they just don't like it.

OverRATED. When I read this I focus in on the "rated" part of the word. I see where you are coming from though. Your experience on these forums may be why you read it the way you do.
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[QUOTE="Kook18"][QUOTE="tovarischs"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]A bit off topic here, but Bioware is very overrated. Seriously I post about this a couple months back, and got alot of flack for it. I still don't see Bioware as a 'great company'. Not comapred to EA, Capcom, Nintendo, and Blizzard. When they make a video game that hits mainstream audience then maybe. As for right now, at best Bioware is like top 15 not Top 5 or 10.shungokustasu
So suddenly popular equals good? BioWare is very well-regarded within the industry and among most gamers; they just don't release 431 expansion packs for the Sims in order to make a quick buck. EA is probably the worst company out there right now, in terms of innovation and in terms of how they view the customers; as giant walking dollar signs with eyes. I'll give you Capcom and Nintendo, hell, I'll even spot you Blizzard (even though I think WoW is the biggest marketing gimmick of all time) but EA? No sir, sorry. -John

i lol'd when he mentioned EA, I'm not even gonna bother coming back to this thread after that. EA is probably one of the top 5 worst. Ruining the Football genre, making cheap cash on movie licensed games & practically all of the new I.P.s they make have been generic mediocrity.

Then why do they sell so well?

Because casuals are always attracted to the games that have the names "Madden" or "Live" on the cover box. If they ever figure out that they're getting the same games each year, for the most part, then EA's got a prob. :P
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And as far as the curing cancer. lets see several 10,000s of doctors from schools such as M.I.T. , Yale, Stanford and etc. have not found a cure yet but 15 year olds with a ps3 are the key now? hmmm ya that aint gonna happen so my bets on the doctors still.rybe1025

:lol: those 15 year olds think they can do anything now, cant they. ha, brainwashed sony fans.

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#145 Kook18
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="Kook18"][QUOTE="tovarischs"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]A bit off topic here, but Bioware is very overrated. Seriously I post about this a couple months back, and got alot of flack for it. I still don't see Bioware as a 'great company'. Not comapred to EA, Capcom, Nintendo, and Blizzard. When they make a video game that hits mainstream audience then maybe. As for right now, at best Bioware is like top 15 not Top 5 or 10.Blue-Sphere
So suddenly popular equals good? BioWare is very well-regarded within the industry and among most gamers; they just don't release 431 expansion packs for the Sims in order to make a quick buck. EA is probably the worst company out there right now, in terms of innovation and in terms of how they view the customers; as giant walking dollar signs with eyes. I'll give you Capcom and Nintendo, hell, I'll even spot you Blizzard (even though I think WoW is the biggest marketing gimmick of all time) but EA? No sir, sorry. -John

i lol'd when he mentioned EA, I'm not even gonna bother coming back to this thread after that. EA is probably one of the top 5 worst. Ruining the Football genre, making cheap cash on movie licensed games & practically all of the new I.P.s they make have been generic mediocrity.

Then why do they sell so well?

Because casuals are always attracted to the games that have the names "Madden" or "Live" on the cover box. If they ever figure out that they're getting the same games each year, for the most part, then EA's got a prob. :P

or they see the godfather game sitting on a store shelf 'well the movie was awesome, i want the game' same when parents see a harry potter game at wal mart. you can't tell me EA isn't aiming for that market when they know full well those games are going to be mediocre at best.
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#146 shungokustasu
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]A bit off topic here, but Bioware is very overrated. Seriously I post about this a couple months back, and got alot of flack for it. I still don't see Bioware as a 'great company'. Not comapred to EA, Capcom, Nintendo, and Blizzard. When they make a video game that hits mainstream audience then maybe. As for right now, at best Bioware is like top 15 not Top 5 or 10.Dr_DudeMan
LOL! You didnt just say that EA and capcom and nintendo are better then bioware? Bioware owns all of them except blizzard. Hands down.

I can name 4 games form each of those companies that score higher here on gamespot and sold more.
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And as far as the curing cancer. lets see several 10,000s of doctors from schools such as M.I.T. , Yale, Stanford and etc. have not found a cure yet but 15 year olds with a ps3 are the key now? hmmm ya that aint gonna happen so my bets on the doctors still.rybe1025
Oh gosh, you kids crack me up. All this nonsense about curing cancer yet no one understands how it is helping to cure cancer. Nonetheless a super brief summary. Doctors, yes doctors, are still the ones doing the curing, but there is no way they can map out protein strands amino acid for amino acid with out billions of computations. So the ps3 is doing the computations and readings for them. It is not curing anything, it is just mapping out the proteins which could then help doctors devise a cure. But anyone with a science degree will tell you that curing cancer is a long ways off, and that this is more of a mapping project then a curing project. If people were told they were mapping proteins they would not do it but since they are being told that they are curing something they do do it. Nonetheless it is very cool, people are just misinformed, and if you have a ps3 you should participate in this because it is very important to the science community that we map out as many proteins as possible because this would have implications in everything from disease to organ transplant.
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[QUOTE="Blue-Sphere"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

Dude, if you are going to kiss Sony's butt so much, why don't you apply for job with them? Seriously.

No company deserves this much devotion unless they are paying you. And even then you should at least try to be somewhat objective about things..

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I should be getting paid, but I'm not. That's what loyalty is all about. Something 360 fans can't understand. Sony deserves alot for what it did and what it's doing for gaming. My loyalty for Sony goes pass gaming though. Even Bill Gates himself said "Sony could sell bricks and sell 80,000 in one day". That's the respect and loyalty we have for Sony. "loyal to the end".

Or Playstation 3 developers lol.

You are one blind Sony fan if ever saw one. This kinda devotion to a machine is actually sad. I wish you had more devotion to actual games then the system itself.

The only devotion any true gamer should ever have is to great games.

Somehow if I said I'm loyal to Blizzard or Bioware (overrated comapny) I would be looked at a little different. Since it's Sony I'm loser, a fanboy (I call myself a fanman), dork, geek, you name it.

Of course you would. PS3 isn't doing well, so yeah, your gonna get called a fanboy. A year from now, the PS3 could be on top, who knows.

Though, you keep talking about your loyalty to Sony. So MS and Nintendo don't have any loyal fans? :? MS probably has the least amount of loyal fans, but at least as of right now, that number is growing, while Nintendo and Sony have a substantial amount of loyal fans. However even the most loyal of Sony fans as of right now, either have no plans on getting a PS3 or are simply waiting until a price drop, better gamers, maybe both, etc.

You see you ok with MS and Nintendo having loyal fans. however this post gets a little upset when you a loyal fan of Sony...You don't think that's wrong?

I MYSELF have absolutely no problem with you being loyal to Sony. I think that's great. Me personally, I wouldn't say that I'm "loyal" to any one company. I just go towards the console with the best games.

I'm not trying to trash you or anything at all. It's just that your almost acting surprised as to why you get teased or bashed for being a Sony fan, when you shouldn't be. But if your loyal to Sony, more power to you. I don't have a problem with that, nor should anyone else. But of course, there's only one thing that brings that down: Fanboys. :P

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#149 shungokustasu
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"]And as far as the curing cancer. lets see several 10,000s of doctors from schools such as M.I.T. , Yale, Stanford and etc. have not found a cure yet but 15 year olds with a ps3 are the key now? hmmm ya that aint gonna happen so my bets on the doctors still.Dr_DudeMan
Oh gosh, you kids crack me up. All this nonsense about curing cancer yet no one understands how it is helping to cure cancer. Nonetheless a super bried summary. Doctors, yes doctors, are still the ones doing the curing, but there is no way they can map out protein strands amino acid for amino acid with out billions of computations. So the ps3 is doing the computations and readings for them. It is not curing anything, it is just mapping out the proteins which could then help doctors devise a cure. But anyone with a science degree will tell you that curing cancer is a long ways off, and that this is more of a mapping project then a curing project. If people were told they were mapping proteins they would not do it but since they are being told that they are curing something they do do it. Nonetheless it is very cool, people are just misinformed, and if you have a ps3 you should participate in this because it is very important to the science community that we map out as many proteins as possible because this would have implications in everything from disease to organ transplant.

That why I said HELP to cure cancer.
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#150 Bgrngod
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[QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="rybe1025"]Wow people it is metal and plastic not a the Holy Grail for you to follow with such loyalty. Trust me i promise you Sony does not know who you are also they will never come to your door and say thank you. I have been playing games since the atari 2600 and have owned a system from almost every company like sega,MS,Nintendo, and yes Sony. Play whatever system brings you the most fun. Some of these games takes many hours to finish so you might as well play the ones bring you the most fun. If it is PS3 fine but in no way play just cause you feel you have to follow Sony no matter what. Sorry to say but some of you act like if sony said to jump off a bridge you would.Dr_DudeMan
Sad. I never ask for Sony love and affection. I only ask them to continue to make good products. I don't need a thank you card or a love letter saying we notice you buy a lot of our products. That what people with soft minds and hearts need.

But by blindly buying one of their crappy products you are no longer asking them to continue to make good products. You are telling them "make whatever, I'll buy it!". That is why being loyal to brands is a bad thing.

PS3 is far from a crappy product. The technology is amazing (sure itll take a couple years to get going), there are a lot of future great exclusives, and they are making an obvious effort to out do MS and competition is good for ps3 and 360 owners. The psp on the other hand is a bit of a disaster which is why it is being completely redone, but just because they messed up their first handheld doesnt by default mean the ps3 is crap. The ps3 is fantastic.

I didn't intend to sound like I think the PS3 is crappy. I love mine and really do think its excellent hardware. My post was in response to someone claiming "Sony loyalty" in one of his previous posts, and that he would support anything Sony releases not just Playstation products. I was assuming this meant he would buy anything that they would release, even if it was crappy, since this is what he seems to be trying to say.