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#101 racing1750
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="killu-later"]Lol DigitalFoundry is a joke, they should e done this weeks ago before they trust that one user and said that the patch killed textures before even testing it themselves. killu-later
You sound upset. I would be too if I bought the inferior version.

I never bought Skyrim, I don't even play RPGs and even made a thread about what I should try out as my first rpg Skyim or Dark Souls. But I did buy Uncharted 3 and it won Best Graphics of 2011 @ Gametrailers, so no I'm not the one upset here

WTF? Fanboys like you never cease to me amaze me with your sensitivity.

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"The PlayStation 3 is unfortunate in that it's the platform with the most oppressive RAM issues (in addition to the split-pool set-up of the memory, the OS has a larger footprint than its 360 equivalent) so it makes sense that it has the most noticeable issues."

No no no....i heard PS3 had infinite power. This must be just another lazy devs case

PAL360

Infamous 2 runs fine. Why wouldn't this much less detailed world do?? And obviously it is lazy developers. If it really was performance issues how come it only affects some people? It's a bug.

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#103 themajormayor
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Nah, we're actually not on good terms at the moment. :o

DarkLink77

Really? why not?

3DS has dead pixels already and Wii is artifacting like a b*tch, so it needs repairs, but the warranty's out.

You still has your head up their ass though.

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#104 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] Really? why not?themajormayor

3DS has dead pixels already and Wii is artifacting like a b*tch, so it needs repairs, but the warranty's out.

You still has your head up their ass though.

I still has, huh? That's unfortunate.
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#105 themajormayor
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I am so sick of DF and their bias, they always bash the PS3 version constantly fo any game. They never say anything good aboutit, but I guess lemmings need somone to make them feel more better about their multiplats because that's the only thing they have now. I could just as easly pull out N4G comparisons that say the PS3 is better, but do I? No because their biased, just like DF.

All I can say is that I have well over 50 hours into Skyrim with a 11 MB save file and no issues so far, there was a quest bug but the upddate fixed that. So DF can kiss my ass and so can all the fanboys that believe it. I know what the truth is.

PAL360

So, now PS3´s inefficient hardware design is DF´s fault? I would point my fingers at Sony if i were you.

What inefficient hardware design? You mean having 5 games beating anything on 360 in graphics? And winning all the important multiplats recently? Even Skyrim is really better on PS3.

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#106 themajormayor
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] 3DS has dead pixels already and Wii is artifacting like a b*tch, so it needs repairs, but the warranty's out.DarkLink77

You still has your head up their ass though.

I still has, huh? That's unfortunate.

indeed
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#107 Giancar
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Damn, please Admins give us more liberties but don't turn SW into this ='(
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#108 xsatyr86
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Damn, please Admins give us more liberties but don't turn SW into this ='(Giancar

Yeah this is getting annoying, to say the least.

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#109 WilliamRLBaker
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Damn, please Admins give us more liberties but don't turn SW into this ='(Giancar
its the reason why my presence on system wars has gone down I just dont see a point anymore....
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#110 Shinobi120
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I am so sick of DF and their bias, they always bash the PS3 version constantly fo any game. They never say anything good aboutit, but I guess lemmings need somone to make them feel more better about their multiplats because that's the only thing they have now. I could just as easly pull out N4G comparisons that say the PS3 is better, but do I? No because their biased, just like DF.

All I can say is that I have well over 50 hours into Skyrim with a 11 MB save file and no issues so far, there was a quest bug but the upddate fixed that. So DF can kiss my ass and so can all the fanboys that believe it. I know what the truth is.

themajormayor

So, now PS3´s inefficient hardware design is DF´s fault? I would point my fingers at Sony if i were you.

What inefficient hardware design? You mean having 5 games beating anything on 360 in graphics? And winning all the important multiplats recently? Even Skyrim is really better on PS3.

Hate to break it to you, but Skyrim isn't better on PS3; it's better on 360. Plus there are games such as Crysis 2 & Gears of War 3 that automatically debunks your theory of PS3 being more powerful. And if you look at this list here:

Link.

There are still more multiplats that are better on 360.

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#111 jer_1
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Wow, that's just terrible... Makes me SOOO very glad I bought this on PC. Not to mention the hitching and freezing, it looks really bad graphically too. That's pretty unfortunate.
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#112 themajormayor
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Yeah this is getting annoying, to say the least.

Giancar

[QUOTE="Giancar"]Damn, please Admins give us more liberties but don't turn SW into this ='(WilliamRLBaker
its the reason why my presence on system wars has gone down I just dont see a point anymore....

Stop being such wimpy little p******

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#113 themajormayor
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

So, now PS3´s inefficient hardware design is DF´s fault? I would point my fingers at Sony if i were you.

garland51

What inefficient hardware design? You mean having 5 games beating anything on 360 in graphics? And winning all the important multiplats recently? Even Skyrim is really better on PS3.

Hate to break it to you, but Skyrim isn't better on PS3; it's better on 360. Plus there are games such as Crysis 2 & Gears of War 3 that automatically debunks your theory of PS3 being more powerful. And if you look at this list here:

Link.

There are still more multiplats that are better on 360.

Yes it is. No jaggies, no screen tear, no texture streaming issues. And how in any way would Crysis 2 and Gears 3 debunk my "theory"? I mean that is just a very ridiculous statement. I can think of at least 15 console games that look better than Crysis 2 and 5 PS3 exclusives that look better than Gears 3.

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#114 racing1750
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Damn, please Admins give us more liberties but don't turn SW into this ='(Giancar
At first I was like "We'll see" Now I want the old SWs but with less restrictions.
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#115 racing1750
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[QUOTE="Giancar"] [QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="Giancar"]Damn, please Admins give us more liberties but don't turn SW into this ='(themajormayor

its the reason why my presence on system wars has gone down I just dont see a point anymore....

Stop being such wimpy little p******

This is why we need the old rules back :(
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Tykain"]I have played Skyrim on PS3 for up to 10 hours at a time without saving and restarting and no issue whatsoever. But yeah, it's unplayable right ? Wiimotefan

That depends if you deem getting fps below 20 as unplayable...

I call BS, simply because the game would have crashed long before reaching 10 hrs of consecutive play. I doubt the PC version could go that long without a crash.

They didn't say it was 10 hours of consecutive play. That was just a 65 hour save they loaded up and ran for 30 minutes.
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#117 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I am so sick of DF and their bias, they always bash the PS3 version constantly fo any game. They never say anything good aboutit, but I guess lemmings need somone to make them feel more better about their multiplats because that's the only thing they have now. I could just as easly pull out N4G comparisons that say the PS3 is better, but do I? No because their biased, just like DF.

All I can say is that I have well over 50 hours into Skyrim with a 11 MB save file and no issues so far, there was a quest bug but the upddate fixed that. So DF can kiss my ass and so can all the fanboys that believe it. I know what the truth is.

themajormayor

So, now PS3´s inefficient hardware design is DF´s fault? I would point my fingers at Sony if i were you.

What inefficient hardware design? You mean having 5 games beating anything on 360 in graphics? And winning all the important multiplats recently? Even Skyrim is really better on PS3.

Those 5 games don't beat everyhting, its subjective, but the truth is sony threw higher numbers around while M$ went out of their way to eliminate problems associated with bandwidth and memory management. 360 is able to maintain higher ustiliztion where ps3 is able to hit higher peaks, but isn't able to maintain that type of throughput. M$ system is not only powerful but its also flexible and easy to use, sony's system is just powerful but neither easy to use or flexible.

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#118 Wiimotefan
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[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"] That depends if you deem getting fps below 20 as unplayable...DragonfireXZ95

I call BS, simply because the game would have crashed long before reaching 10 hrs of consecutive play. I doubt the PC version could go that long without a crash.

They didn't say it was 10 hours of consecutive play. That was just a 65 hour save they loaded up and ran for 30 minutes.

Not sure why people are misunderstanding this post of mine. I was just responding to Tykains comment about being able to play for 10 hrs straight with no crash. Has nothing to do with DF analysis, or even the PS3 version.

Everyone I know who owns Skyrim gets periodic crashes no matter the platform. Only on SW do I see people saying they don't crash, or rarely crash.

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#119 themajormayor
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

So, now PS3´s inefficient hardware design is DF´s fault? I would point my fingers at Sony if i were you.

savagetwinkie

What inefficient hardware design? You mean having 5 games beating anything on 360 in graphics? And winning all the important multiplats recently? Even Skyrim is really better on PS3.

Those 5 games don't beat everyhting, its subjective, but the truth is sony threw higher numbers around while M$ went out of their way to eliminate problems associated with bandwidth and memory management. 360 is able to maintain higher ustiliztion where ps3 is able to hit higher peaks, but isn't able to maintain that type of throughput. M$ system is not only powerful but its also flexible and easy to use, sony's system is just flexible but neither easy to use or flexible.

No it's not subjective. Artstyle is subjective. This is objective. And the rest of your post doesn't make any sense at all: "sony's system is just flexible but neither easy to use or flexible." wtf?
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#120 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

I call BS, simply because the game would have crashed long before reaching 10 hrs of consecutive play. I doubt the PC version could go that long without a crash.

Wiimotefan

They didn't say it was 10 hours of consecutive play. That was just a 65 hour save they loaded up and ran for 30 minutes.

Not sure why people are misunderstanding this post of mine. I was just responding to Tykains comment about being able to play for 10 hrs straight with no crash. Has nothing to do with DF analysis, or even the PS3 version.

Everyone I know who owns Skyrim gets periodic crashes no matter the platform. Only on SW do I see people saying they don't crash, or rarely crash.

Oh, I misread his post originally. My bad. With the 4GB LAA mod on PC, it might be possible. :P
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#121 themajormayor
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

So, now PS3´s inefficient hardware design is DF´s fault? I would point my fingers at Sony if i were you.

savagetwinkie

What inefficient hardware design? You mean having 5 games beating anything on 360 in graphics? And winning all the important multiplats recently? Even Skyrim is really better on PS3.

Those 5 games don't beat everyhting, its subjective, but the truth is sony threw higher numbers around while M$ went out of their way to eliminate problems associated with bandwidth and memory management. 360 is able to maintain higher ustiliztion where ps3 is able to hit higher peaks, but isn't able to maintain that type of throughput. M$ system is not only powerful but its also flexible and easy to use, sony's system is just powerful but neither easy to use or flexible.

oh ok. Well it's true but most developers have come to terms with the PS3 now. That's why BF3, Portal 2, LA Noire, Skyrim, Castlevania etc all look better on the PS3 while Dark Souls, Deus ex etc etc are ties.
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#122 Shinobi120
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[QUOTE="garland51"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"] What inefficient hardware design? You mean having 5 games beating anything on 360 in graphics? And winning all the important multiplats recently? Even Skyrim is really better on PS3.

themajormayor

Hate to break it to you, but Skyrim isn't better on PS3; it's better on 360. Plus there are games such as Crysis 2 & Gears of War 3 that automatically debunks your theory of PS3 being more powerful. And if you look at this list here:

Link.

There are still more multiplats that are better on 360.

Yes it is. No jaggies, no screen tear, no texture streaming issues. And how in any way would Crysis 2 and Gears 3 debunk my "theory"? I mean that is just a very ridiculous statement. I can think of at least 15 console games that look better than Crysis 2 and 5 PS3 exclusives that look better than Gears 3.

Wow. You need to read this article on Skyrim here, & here. No way in hell is it better on PS3. Deny it all you want, but it's the truth.

Plus the 360 version of Crysis 2 & GoW 3 proves that the 360 is very capable of pushing out great graphics like the PS3 could.

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[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

[QUOTE="garland51"]

Hate to break it to you, but Skyrim isn't better on PS3; it's better on 360. Plus there are games such as Crysis 2 & Gears of War 3 that automatically debunks your theory of PS3 being more powerful. And if you look at this list here:

Link.

There are still more multiplats that are better on 360.

garland51

Yes it is. No jaggies, no screen tear, no texture streaming issues. And how in any way would Crysis 2 and Gears 3 debunk my "theory"? I mean that is just a very ridiculous statement. I can think of at least 15 console games that look better than Crysis 2 and 5 PS3 exclusives that look better than Gears 3.

Wow. You need to read this article on Skyrim here. No way in hell is it better on PS3.

I love how these consolites fight over which version is better on the consoles. :lol:
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#124 themajormayor
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

[QUOTE="garland51"]

Hate to break it to you, but Skyrim isn't better on PS3; it's better on 360. Plus there are games such as Crysis 2 & Gears of War 3 that automatically debunks your theory of PS3 being more powerful. And if you look at this list here:

Link.

There are still more multiplats that are better on 360.

garland51

Yes it is. No jaggies, no screen tear, no texture streaming issues. And how in any way would Crysis 2 and Gears 3 debunk my "theory"? I mean that is just a very ridiculous statement. I can think of at least 15 console games that look better than Crysis 2 and 5 PS3 exclusives that look better than Gears 3.

Wow. You need to read this article on Skyrim here. No way in hell is it better on PS3.

Of course it is. DF is biased. They said PS3 has no jaggies in exchange for blur like it's a 1:1 trade off. But as we all know Jaggies are way worse than blur. And then there's screen tearing in the 360. So win for PS3.
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#125 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"] What inefficient hardware design? You mean having 5 games beating anything on 360 in graphics? And winning all the important multiplats recently? Even Skyrim is really better on PS3.

themajormayor

Those 5 games don't beat everyhting, its subjective, but the truth is sony threw higher numbers around while M$ went out of their way to eliminate problems associated with bandwidth and memory management. 360 is able to maintain higher ustiliztion where ps3 is able to hit higher peaks, but isn't able to maintain that type of throughput. M$ system is not only powerful but its also flexible and easy to use, sony's system is just flexible but neither easy to use or flexible.

No it's not subjective. Artstyle is subjective. This is objective. And the rest of your post doesn't make any sense at all: "sony's system is just flexible but neither easy to use or flexible." wtf?

i fixed it, its powerful but not flexible, and its subjective because you can't possibly understand everything that's going on under the hood and pure speculation, the games were considered graphics king by opinions and that's all any of them have backing them. in the end you as a person, and even developers are not capable of breaking down a game engine and able to do a full technical analysis of which system is doing more. Its just not possible to take everything into account. benchmarks as a valid test.
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#126 Shinobi120
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[QUOTE="garland51"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"] Yes it is. No jaggies, no screen tear, no texture streaming issues. And how in any way would Crysis 2 and Gears 3 debunk my "theory"? I mean that is just a very ridiculous statement. I can think of at least 15 console games that look better than Crysis 2 and 5 PS3 exclusives that look better than Gears 3.

themajormayor

Wow. You need to read this article on Skyrim here. No way in hell is it better on PS3.

Of course it is. DF is biased. They said PS3 has no jaggies in exchange for blur like it's a 1:1 trade off. But as we all know Jaggies are way worse than blur. And then there's screen tearing in the 360. So win for PS3.

This just makes me laugh. DF isn't biased at all. They take this stuff very seriously. Other sites Beyond 3D & Lens of Truth are even reporting the same thing. But go ahead & continue to cover your ears about it.

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#127 themajormayor
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

[QUOTE="garland51"]

Hate to break it to you, but Skyrim isn't better on PS3; it's better on 360. Plus there are games such as Crysis 2 & Gears of War 3 that automatically debunks your theory of PS3 being more powerful. And if you look at this list here:

Link.

There are still more multiplats that are better on 360.

garland51

Yes it is. No jaggies, no screen tear, no texture streaming issues. And how in any way would Crysis 2 and Gears 3 debunk my "theory"? I mean that is just a very ridiculous statement. I can think of at least 15 console games that look better than Crysis 2 and 5 PS3 exclusives that look better than Gears 3.

Wow. You need to read this article on Skyrim here, & here. No way in hell is it better on PS3. Deny it all you want, but it's the truth.

Plus the 360 version of Crysis 2 & GoW 3 proves that the 360 is very capable of pushing out great graphics like the PS3 could.

Lol Crysis 2. Have you ever played a PS3 top exclusive? Yes Gears 3 comes close to the likes of Uncharted 1 but Crysis 2 is not even in the top 15. It shouldn't be in this conversation at all. Castlevania & BF3 are way more impressive and they are multiplat. And then THOSE multiplats are far from the top PS3 exclusives.
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#128 themajormayor
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="garland51"]

Wow. You need to read this article on Skyrim here. No way in hell is it better on PS3.

garland51

Of course it is. DF is biased. They said PS3 has no jaggies in exchange for blur like it's a 1:1 trade off. But as we all know Jaggies are way worse than blur. And then there's screen tearing in the 360. So win for PS3.

DF isn't biased at all. They take this stuff very seriously. Other sites Beyond 3D & Lens of Truth are even reporting the same thing.

They can report whatever they want. I hate jaggies so I'd take the PS3 version over the 360 one.
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#129 polFdrawykS
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LMAO so many dumb got trolled by killulater , ps3 multiplats are always inferior to 360, no surprise.. 360 +1
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#130 themajormayor
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[QUOTE="polFdrawykS"]LMAO so many dumb got trolled by killulater , ps3 multiplats are always inferior to 360, no surprise.. 360 +1

Like in the case of BF3, La Noire, Portal 2, DSF, Castlevania?
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#131 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="garland51"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"] Of course it is. DF is biased. They said PS3 has no jaggies in exchange for blur like it's a 1:1 trade off. But as we all know Jaggies are way worse than blur. And then there's screen tearing in the 360. So win for PS3.themajormayor

DF isn't biased at all. They take this stuff very seriously. Other sites Beyond 3D & Lens of Truth are even reporting the same thing.

They can report whatever they want. I hate jaggies so I'd take the PS3 version over the 360 one.

the ps3 version i'm pretty sure has its fair share of jaggies
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#132 themajormayor
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="garland51"]

DF isn't biased at all. They take this stuff very seriously. Other sites Beyond 3D & Lens of Truth are even reporting the same thing.

savagetwinkie

They can report whatever they want. I hate jaggies so I'd take the PS3 version over the 360 one.

the ps3 version i'm pretty sure has its fair share of jaggies

According to LoT the AA removes 99% of all jaggies.

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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="garland51"]

DF isn't biased at all. They take this stuff very seriously. Other sites Beyond 3D & Lens of Truth are even reporting the same thing.

savagetwinkie

They can report whatever they want. I hate jaggies so I'd take the PS3 version over the 360 one.

the ps3 version i'm pretty sure has its fair share of jaggies

It's nearly nonexistent, FXAA is amazing and I love using it on my PC, plus: