Digital Foundry : Comparison video on why you will see Xbox One X and PC games look better than PS4 Pro

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#101 CanYouDiglt
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@ConanTheStoner said:
@CanYouDiglt said:

Ya Wasdie I will not respond to your alt.

Never had this guy respond to me ever till I mentioned your name. He comments on my posts a few times when I mention you name.

Fucking lulz.

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Also, my latest convo with Wasdie. We're definitely best buds.

Like I said to Char I was wrong. The way you were acting it did seem that way. The mods on here allow so many alts it is hard to keep track and to the point assume everyone is.

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#102  Edited By DragonfireXZ95
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@CanYouDiglt: He has a post count of 16,000+ and you think he's an alt? Lol

That Pink guy earlier in here was probably an alt. Made his account less than 2 months ago and called Ron a bot. Now, that guy is an alt.

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#103  Edited By appariti0n
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@DragonfireXZ95 said:

@CanYouDiglt: He has a post count of 16,000+ and you think he's an alt? Lol

That Pink guy earlier in here was probably an alt. Made his account less than 2 months ago and called Ron a bot. Now, that guy is an alt.

Or maybe it's the fact that @ConanTheStoner is one of the handful of posters here with half a brain who calls bullshit when he sees it.

inb4 I get called another alt as well.

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#104 ronvalencia
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@pinkanimal said:
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@pinkanimal said:
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Your argument with "where he clarifies his comments" is load of bullshit. It doesn't help when your pinkyanimal brain has mad cow disease.

  • If you think about it, it's kind of equivalent to a GTX 1070
  • where we'll see ARK running at 1080p 60FPS on close to Epic settings on Xbox One X.

It's not rocket science.

It's worst for your PS4 Pro when 60 fps version is only 1280x720p LOL.

Aiming at 60fps doesn't mean they'll get 60fps, it just means they're aiming at it. Also resolution is not locked so it can fall below 1080p. Learn english hypocritebot

"where we'll see ARK running at 1080p 60FPS on close to Epic settings on Xbox One X".

It's worst for your PS4 Pro since it's 720p at ~60 fps. Learn English hypocrite pinky.

where he said that they're aiming for 60FPS on Xbox One X

Also:

https://www.reddit.com/r/playark/comments/6gtpc6/the_good_news_about_the_xbox_one_x_and_ark/

"Hey guys, just to clarify... the resolution is not locked, it is variable resolution"

But of course people have shown you this 1000 times and you insist on remaining an ignorant bot and copy-pasting your useless database.

Where he said that "we'll see ARK running at 1080p 60FPS on close to Epic settings on Xbox One X". If the developer remove "near EPIC settings" for X1X, it would have improved 60 fps.

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/58011/ark-dev-xbox-one-pc-gtx-1070-16gb-ram/index.html

As for the comparisons between the PC and Xbox One X, he said: "If you think about it, it's kind of equivalent to a GTX 1070 maybe and the Xbox One X actually has 12GB of GDDR5 memory. It's kind of like having a pretty high-end PC minus a lot of overhead due to the operating system on PC. So I would say it's equivalent to a 16GB 1070 PC, and that's a pretty good deal for $499".

GTX 1070 already dipping below 60 fps. Equivalency between GTX 1070 and X1X already built-in GTX 1070's dripping below 60 fps behavior for X1X you stupid cow.

It's worst for your PS4 Pro camp when 60 fps is targeted i.e. 1280x720p (921,600 pixels) against 1920x1080p (2,073,600 pixels).

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#105  Edited By Wasdie  Moderator
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@CanYouDiglt:You never said $700 dollar. You said 700. I thought you were talking about the GTX 700 series which the Xbox One X absolutely clowns. That's why I was confused.

A GTX 1080ti is way more powerful than what they have in an Xbox One X and will play games at much smoother framerates and probably very slightly higher rendering settings depending on the game. Screenshots won't do it as much justice just as PC vs. Xbox One screenshots at 1080p don't show that dramatic of a difference. 30fps vs 60fps is a pretty dramatic different. It's literally doubling the pixels per second output.

I don't know why you're getting all upset either. Why does it matter than a much more expensive GPU beats a console? Of course it will, you're getting a full console for the price of a single component. The thread I said all that in was this weird attempt at trying to convince people that a multiplatform game can somehow show off the power of a console even though there will be direct PC footage that shows just how far behind the Xbox One X still is despite being brand new. It made no sense. I even said in that thread that I believe a 1st party exclusive would do that far better. I still believe that.

You need to take a massive chill pill. Nobody here really gives a crap how much you like the Xbox One X. Go enjoy it. It effects absolutely nobody.'

Also I don't have an alt. There might be a Wasdie2 account sitting around somewhere when Gamespot had a weird glitch that banned everybody who posted on night, but that's about it. That was many moons ago.

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#106 Wasdie  Moderator
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@ConanTheStoner said:
@CanYouDiglt said:

Ya Wasdie I will not respond to your alt.

Never had this guy respond to me ever till I mentioned your name. He comments on my posts a few times when I mention you name.

Fucking lulz.

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Also, my latest convo with Wasdie. We're definitely best buds.

I'll be completely honest, I think I was a little drunk when I said that. Then I got all pig headed about it. My bad.

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#107 Wasdie  Moderator
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@appariti0n said:
@DragonfireXZ95 said:

@CanYouDiglt: He has a post count of 16,000+ and you think he's an alt? Lol

That Pink guy earlier in here was probably an alt. Made his account less than 2 months ago and called Ron a bot. Now, that guy is an alt.

Or maybe it's the fact that @ConanTheStoner is one of the handful of posters here with half a brain who calls bullshit when he sees it.

inb4 I get called another alt as well.

How the hell do you only have 900 posts since 2009.

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#108 appariti0n
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@Wasdie: Don't you remember? You created me back in 2009, and I've lived in your subconscious ever since.

Don't deny me, I'll just morph into a shadow.

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#109 ConanTheStoner
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@Wasdie said:

I'll be completely honest, I think I was a little drunk when I said that. Then I got all pig headed about it. My bad.

Nah you're good dude, I didn't think too much of it. I have my days on here too, getting at each others throats is par for course SW lol.

But if anything, I felt it was a perfect example of us not being the same person haha.

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#110 Wasdie  Moderator
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@appariti0n said:

@Wasdie: Don't you remember? You created me back in 2009, and I've lived in your subconscious ever since.

Don't deny me, I'll just morph into a shadow.

Get out of my head.

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#111 CrashNBurn281
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Power isn't the XboneX's problem. It will be developers making exclusive titles on the platform that look good and people want to play.

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#112 Phazevariance
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@Phreek300 said:

All this really boils down to is slightly better textures, and effects between the platforms in X1X and the Pro with 3rd parties. The real question is how will the X1X stack up with exclusives when it gets some in the future?

Not true, increased texture resolution is one aspect only. With added power and decreased CPU bottleneck, you get smoother frame rates, added assets that can be handled on screen easier (this directly affects the visual fidelity of the imagery and art being displayed) and then extra effects can be added with left over 'spare' power if the devs want.

Now for exclusives, that seems to be MS Achilles heal, since any that they have, are typically shared with PC and thus denied the exclusive title, even though PS might not get the game. That being said, it will handle them better than a mid-range PC, but not as good as a high-end PC. I don't think MS will ever get console specific exclusives ever again, nor do I think they are trying to get those. They want PC to succeed since it drives more Windows software sales for them.

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#113 blackace
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@pinkanimal said:
@blackace said:
@scatteh316 said:

Best looking console games will be on Pro... FACT...

Good look getting base Xbone to churn out a game like Horizon:ZD at a decent enough resolution for XboneX to then render at 4k.

Horizon: ZD isn't native 4K though. Just compare Anthem to Horizon: ZD. Developers are just starting to work on the XB1X. Within a year there will be games on the XB1X that look better then Horizon: ZD. The games will be in native 4K with high texture settings.

Lol Horizon looks better than most games even running on high end PCs. Why would a console with hardware worse than a GTX1070 make a difference? Hell not even the GTX can sustain native 4k across current games and you're pretending the X1X will on future games that will be more demanding? You people are in another level of delusion. You lemmings are pretending the X1X is like another level of power we haven't seen before. Newsflash: we have seen before a lot of stuff and much better than what it will be capable of, so there's no going to be too much jaw-dropping going on. What Horizon has on its favor is a combination of technical ability with artistic quality that makes the game impressive (even without reaching native 4k) and Sony was able to achieve that because they have a quality first party dev as Guerrilla Games that can focus all their time and resources to optimizing the game. Microsoft has nowhere near the talent in their first party to match what Guerrilla Games did except maybe with the Forza devs but racing games don't make such an impact and are easier to make look good. So no, in a year there won't be much better looking games than Horizon on the X1X. Wake up because you people are going to get massively owned for being so irrationally gullible.

There will be games on XB1X that will look better then Horizon. Anthem is just the tip of the iceberg. If a game like Horizon looks as good as it does on the PS4 Pro, just imagine what games will look like on the XB1X. Horizon: Zero Dawn would not only look better on the XB1X, but also run better. Don't think anyone will be getting owned at this point.

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#114  Edited By PinkAnimal
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@blackace: nope, you need talent like Guerrilla Games to take advantage of the hardware. Microsoft has no talent like that and third party devs have no resources to optimize games in such a level. Like I said, there are already machines in the market much more powerful than the X1X and they struggle to showcase something that looks better than Horizon. Why would a slightly better machine like the X1X make any difference?

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#115 kvally
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@blackace said:
@pinkanimal said:
@blackace said:
@scatteh316 said:

Best looking console games will be on Pro... FACT...

Good look getting base Xbone to churn out a game like Horizon:ZD at a decent enough resolution for XboneX to then render at 4k.

Horizon: ZD isn't native 4K though. Just compare Anthem to Horizon: ZD. Developers are just starting to work on the XB1X. Within a year there will be games on the XB1X that look better then Horizon: ZD. The games will be in native 4K with high texture settings.

Lol Horizon looks better than most games even running on high end PCs. Why would a console with hardware worse than a GTX1070 make a difference? Hell not even the GTX can sustain native 4k across current games and you're pretending the X1X will on future games that will be more demanding? You people are in another level of delusion. You lemmings are pretending the X1X is like another level of power we haven't seen before. Newsflash: we have seen before a lot of stuff and much better than what it will be capable of, so there's no going to be too much jaw-dropping going on. What Horizon has on its favor is a combination of technical ability with artistic quality that makes the game impressive (even without reaching native 4k) and Sony was able to achieve that because they have a quality first party dev as Guerrilla Games that can focus all their time and resources to optimizing the game. Microsoft has nowhere near the talent in their first party to match what Guerrilla Games did except maybe with the Forza devs but racing games don't make such an impact and are easier to make look good. So no, in a year there won't be much better looking games than Horizon on the X1X. Wake up because you people are going to get massively owned for being so irrationally gullible.

There will be games on XB1X that will look better then Horizon. Anthem is just the tip of the iceberg. If a game like Horizon looks as good as it does on the PS4 Pro, just imagine what games will look like on the XB1X. Horizon: Zero Dawn would not only look better on the XB1X, but also run better. Don't think anyone will be getting owned at this point.

There are many games that look better than Horizon (and not just Anthem, which annihilates Horizon). The fact that the X1X is 50% more powerful will improve the appearance and performance of games is a good thing for gamers around the world. If you are a console gamer, clearly you will want an X1X if you want the best multiplatform games, and you enjoy the exclusives that Xbox offers. For me, I want the best of both worlds, so I have a PS Pro and an X1S, and will get an X1X on day one.

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#116 appariti0n
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@Wasdie said:
@appariti0n said:

@Wasdie: Don't you remember? You created me back in 2009, and I've lived in your subconscious ever since.

Don't deny me, I'll just morph into a shadow.

Get out of my head.

In all seriousness, I created my account in 2009, just to make 1 post, don't remember what it was for.

Then I injured myself, was really high on painkillers, and figured raging at people on the internet might be good therapy. Which is why I only really popped up 4-5 months ago.

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#117 PinkAnimal
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@kvally said:

The fact that the X1X is 50% more powerful

40% more powerful only. Confirmed by Microsoft themselves.

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#118 navyguy21
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@pinkanimal said:
@kvally said:

The fact that the X1X is 50% more powerful

40% more powerful only. Confirmed by Microsoft themselves.

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#119 kvally
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@pinkanimal said:
@kvally said:

The fact that the X1X is 50% more powerful

40% more powerful only. Confirmed by Microsoft themselves.

LOL, what? Now you trust Microsoft? Which is it alt? You can't have it both ways, ROFL!

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#120  Edited By AzatiS
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We know already, why some people getting surprised i dont get it.

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#121 SecretPolice
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@kvally said:
@pinkanimal said:
@kvally said:

The fact that the X1X is 50% more powerful

40% more powerful only. Confirmed by Microsoft themselves.

LOL, what? Now you trust Microsoft? Which is it alt? You can't have it both ways, ROFL!

Poo lil pinko, just gets rekt all day, every day...

lolol :P

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#122  Edited By kvally
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@SecretPolice said:
@kvally said:
@pinkanimal said:
@kvally said:

The fact that the X1X is 50% more powerful

40% more powerful only. Confirmed by Microsoft themselves.

LOL, what? Now you trust Microsoft? Which is it alt? You can't have it both ways, ROFL!

Poo lil pinko, just gets rekt all day, every day...

lolol :P

Oh snap! That is a great representation of what just happened to him, lol! Poor alt.

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#123 PinkAnimal
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@kvally said:
@SecretPolice said:
@kvally said:
@pinkanimal said:
@kvally said:

The fact that the X1X is 50% more powerful

40% more powerful only. Confirmed by Microsoft themselves.

LOL, what? Now you trust Microsoft? Which is it alt? You can't have it both ways, ROFL!

Poo lil pinko, just gets rekt all day, every day...

lolol :P

Oh snap! That is a great representation of what just happened to him, lol! Poor alt.

On so now you lemmings don't trust Microsoft then? lol Microsoft is not trusting when they exaggerate their statements not when they don't. In fact they are probably exaggerating this too so it's probably around 20-30%

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#124 SecretPolice
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@pinkanimal said:
@kvally said:
@SecretPolice said:
@kvally said:
@pinkanimal said:

40% more powerful only. Confirmed by Microsoft themselves.

LOL, what? Now you trust Microsoft? Which is it alt? You can't have it both ways, ROFL!

Poo lil pinko, just gets rekt all day, every day...

lolol :P

Oh snap! That is a great representation of what just happened to him, lol! Poor alt.

On so now you lemmings don't trust Microsoft then? lol Microsoft is not trusting when they exaggerate their statements not when they don't. In fact they are probably exaggerating this too so it's probably around 20-30%

lolololol :P

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#125 kvally
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@pinkanimal said:
@kvally said:
@SecretPolice said:
@kvally said:
@pinkanimal said:

40% more powerful only. Confirmed by Microsoft themselves.

LOL, what? Now you trust Microsoft? Which is it alt? You can't have it both ways, ROFL!

Poo lil pinko, just gets rekt all day, every day...

lolol :P

Oh snap! That is a great representation of what just happened to him, lol! Poor alt.

On so now you lemmings don't trust Microsoft then? lol Microsoft is not trusting when they exaggerate their statements not when they don't. In fact they are probably exaggerating this too so it's probably around 20-30%

I am a manticore, and I don't trust MS nor Sony. They are shady mother fuckers!

Do you trust Digital Foundry? Or only when it favors Sony?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-microsofts-xbox-one-x-benchmarks-revealed

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-xbox-one-looks-stunning-but-we-need-to-see-more

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-project-scorpio-tech-revealed

If you can't trust Digital Foundry, game developers, nor Microsoft.....then you better trust god! LOL

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#126  Edited By PinkAnimal
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@kvally said:
@pinkanimal said:
@kvally said:
@SecretPolice said:

Poo lil pinko, just gets rekt all day, every day...

lolol :P

Oh snap! That is a great representation of what just happened to him, lol! Poor alt.

On so now you lemmings don't trust Microsoft then? lol Microsoft is not trusting when they exaggerate their statements not when they don't. In fact they are probably exaggerating this too so it's probably around 20-30%

I am a manticore, and I don't trust MS nor Sony. They are shady mother fuckers!

Do you trust Digital Foundry? Or only when it favors Sony?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-microsofts-xbox-one-x-benchmarks-revealed

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-xbox-one-looks-stunning-but-we-need-to-see-more

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-project-scorpio-tech-revealed

If you can't trust Digital Foundry, game developers, nor Microsoft.....then you better trust god! LOL

I trust DF but they have never said that the X1X is 50% more powerful than the PS4. These are statements DF has said though:

-Checkerbord 4k looks as good as native and you wouldn't be able to notice the difference unless you're a few feet away.

-Only Forza on E3 from Microsft's side was actually running on native 4k

Apart from that they have mentioned nothing about percentages or much about differences in power.

Also I trust Sony 1 million times more than MS. Sony was not very honest last gen but this gen they have been pretty straightforward unlike Microsoft which haven't stopped lying and lying and making up BS terms just to deceive naive lemmings that have trouble thinking for themselves. Hell they don't even show sales numbers anymore, lol cowards.

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#127 kvally
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@pinkanimal said:
@kvally said:
@pinkanimal said:
@kvally said:
@SecretPolice said:

Poo lil pinko, just gets rekt all day, every day...

lolol :P

Oh snap! That is a great representation of what just happened to him, lol! Poor alt.

On so now you lemmings don't trust Microsoft then? lol Microsoft is not trusting when they exaggerate their statements not when they don't. In fact they are probably exaggerating this too so it's probably around 20-30%

I am a manticore, and I don't trust MS nor Sony. They are shady mother fuckers!

Do you trust Digital Foundry? Or only when it favors Sony?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-microsofts-xbox-one-x-benchmarks-revealed

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-xbox-one-looks-stunning-but-we-need-to-see-more

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-project-scorpio-tech-revealed

If you can't trust Digital Foundry, game developers, nor Microsoft.....then you better trust god! LOL

I trust DF but they have never said that the X1X is 50% more powerful than the PS4. These are statements DF has said though:

-Checkerbord 4k looks as good as native and you wouldn't be able to notice the difference unless you're a few feet away.

-Only Forza on E3 from Microsft's side was actually running on native 4k

Apart from that they have mentioned nothing about percentages or much about differences in power.

Also I trust Sony 1 million times more than MS. Sony was not very honest last gen but this gen they have been pretty straightforward unlike Microsoft which haven't stopped lying and lying and making up BS terms just to deceive naive lemmings that have trouble thinking for themselves. Hell they don't even show sales numbers anymore, lol cowards.

Nope. Sony and Microsoft are both lying, conniving, dishonest, untrustworthy corporations, equally. It's a sad state of affairs. And they surely did mention difference in power, which was a hot topic when the video they did came out.

Hey, if you want to believe that 43% more powerful in Flops and 60% more memory isn't an advantage, that is your prerogative. Not that it matters....as an alt you have zero credibility here on our forum.

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#128 PinkAnimal
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@kvally said:
@pinkanimal said:
@kvally said:
@pinkanimal said:
@kvally said:

Oh snap! That is a great representation of what just happened to him, lol! Poor alt.

On so now you lemmings don't trust Microsoft then? lol Microsoft is not trusting when they exaggerate their statements not when they don't. In fact they are probably exaggerating this too so it's probably around 20-30%

I am a manticore, and I don't trust MS nor Sony. They are shady mother fuckers!

Do you trust Digital Foundry? Or only when it favors Sony?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-microsofts-xbox-one-x-benchmarks-revealed

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-xbox-one-looks-stunning-but-we-need-to-see-more

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-project-scorpio-tech-revealed

If you can't trust Digital Foundry, game developers, nor Microsoft.....then you better trust god! LOL

I trust DF but they have never said that the X1X is 50% more powerful than the PS4. These are statements DF has said though:

-Checkerbord 4k looks as good as native and you wouldn't be able to notice the difference unless you're a few feet away.

-Only Forza on E3 from Microsft's side was actually running on native 4k

Apart from that they have mentioned nothing about percentages or much about differences in power.

Also I trust Sony 1 million times more than MS. Sony was not very honest last gen but this gen they have been pretty straightforward unlike Microsoft which haven't stopped lying and lying and making up BS terms just to deceive naive lemmings that have trouble thinking for themselves. Hell they don't even show sales numbers anymore, lol cowards.

Nope. Sony and Microsoft are both lying, conniving, dishonest, untrustworthy corporations, equally. It's a sad state of affairs. And they surely did mention difference in power, which was a hot topic when the video they did came out.

Hey, if you want to believe that 43% more powerful in Flops and 60% more memory isn't an advantage, that is your prerogative. Not that it matters....as an alt you have zero credibility here on our forum.

You're like the worst troll I've seen on this site and I've seen several people said that while nobody ever takes you seriously, you're just beyond lame, so you telling me I have no credibility is actually a compliment and a testament that I must be doing something right :)

But no, Sony is not as bad as Microsoft. Anyone with half a brain who has noticed all the crap from Kinect to "True4K" to redefining what exclusivity means this gen has noticed that, it's just pathetic really.

I don't want to "believe" anything. Numbers don't lie, you can choose not to believe facts but they are facts either when you want them to be or not. I never said 40% more powerful is not an advantage but it is a pretty pathetic advantage when we're talking about a $100 more expensive machine with a game library that pales quality-wise in comparison to the competition.

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#129 CanYouDiglt
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@Wasdie said:

@CanYouDiglt:You never said $700 dollar. You said 700. I thought you were talking about the GTX 700 series which the Xbox One X absolutely clowns. That's why I was confused.

A GTX 1080ti is way more powerful than what they have in an Xbox One X and will play games at much smoother framerates and probably very slightly higher rendering settings depending on the game. Screenshots won't do it as much justice just as PC vs. Xbox One screenshots at 1080p don't show that dramatic of a difference. 30fps vs 60fps is a pretty dramatic different. It's literally doubling the pixels per second output.

I don't know why you're getting all upset either. Why does it matter than a much more expensive GPU beats a console? Of course it will, you're getting a full console for the price of a single component. The thread I said all that in was this weird attempt at trying to convince people that a multiplatform game can somehow show off the power of a console even though there will be direct PC footage that shows just how far behind the Xbox One X still is despite being brand new. It made no sense. I even said in that thread that I believe a 1st party exclusive would do that far better. I still believe that.

You need to take a massive chill pill. Nobody here really gives a crap how much you like the Xbox One X. Go enjoy it. It effects absolutely nobody.'

Also I don't have an alt. There might be a Wasdie2 account sitting around somewhere when Gamespot had a weird glitch that banned everybody who posted on night, but that's about it. That was many moons ago.

I was not upset now or then. I was actually even pretty clear about wanting you to take a pic of of your PC game to compare to an X1X game since you kept bragging about PC vs X1X. I did not put a $ in front of the 700, We already had a discussion about that $700 card so I thought you would have understood but we all know what they say about when you assume. You were saying the X1X is not that good because PC gamers like you have these $700 graphic cards, So I said I am looking forward to your PC screenshots for a game like Anthem. I understand a PC gamer can pay for 4x the X1X price and achieve more, heck if a PC gamer really wants to spend several thousand they can even do 8k, but the thing is most can not do it. All PC gamers talk about how they "could" run everything at 8k with 60 fps but the truth it most PC gamers are far below that and the stats show it.

Think of this like cars the X1X is a Ford GT which is an amazing car that costs around $500k and the Bugatti Veyron Super Sport is $2.5 mil, the price is far different but their car stats are not that different. So it is like how PC is vs how consoles are now.

As far as the alt thing, I already admitted I was wrong. I average 1k posts a year and when you consider stuff like E3 or other big events I am clearly not on here on a daily basis. I do not recognize everyone. At least from the past this site had a huge problem with alts, even from mods. Like I said I was wrong but that is where the mistake happened.

In a nutshell to a PC gamer that generally likes to trash the Xbox, lets see what ya got. I am kinda curious if you have a rig that beats the X1X and if so how much you had to spend to do it.

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Games will look 3.5743 times better than on the Ps Pro and 7.2674 than the base PS4. That means 12.01 over the base xbox and roughly -2.5764357764 and 39.6448865432566 the PC. This will obviously translate into a personal enjoyment rate of 108.4 according to 2017s standard rate that should be ajusted asa 99.98 for 2018.

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#131  Edited By kvally
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@pinkanimal said:
@kvally said:
@pinkanimal said:
@kvally said:
@pinkanimal said:

On so now you lemmings don't trust Microsoft then? lol Microsoft is not trusting when they exaggerate their statements not when they don't. In fact they are probably exaggerating this too so it's probably around 20-30%

I am a manticore, and I don't trust MS nor Sony. They are shady mother fuckers!

Do you trust Digital Foundry? Or only when it favors Sony?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-microsofts-xbox-one-x-benchmarks-revealed

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-xbox-one-looks-stunning-but-we-need-to-see-more

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-project-scorpio-tech-revealed

If you can't trust Digital Foundry, game developers, nor Microsoft.....then you better trust god! LOL

I trust DF but they have never said that the X1X is 50% more powerful than the PS4. These are statements DF has said though:

-Checkerbord 4k looks as good as native and you wouldn't be able to notice the difference unless you're a few feet away.

-Only Forza on E3 from Microsft's side was actually running on native 4k

Apart from that they have mentioned nothing about percentages or much about differences in power.

Also I trust Sony 1 million times more than MS. Sony was not very honest last gen but this gen they have been pretty straightforward unlike Microsoft which haven't stopped lying and lying and making up BS terms just to deceive naive lemmings that have trouble thinking for themselves. Hell they don't even show sales numbers anymore, lol cowards.

Nope. Sony and Microsoft are both lying, conniving, dishonest, untrustworthy corporations, equally. It's a sad state of affairs. And they surely did mention difference in power, which was a hot topic when the video they did came out.

Hey, if you want to believe that 43% more powerful in Flops and 60% more memory isn't an advantage, that is your prerogative. Not that it matters....as an alt you have zero credibility here on our forum.

You're like the worst troll I've seen on this site and I've seen several people said that while nobody ever takes you seriously, you're just beyond lame, so you telling me I have no credibility is actually a compliment and a testament that I must be doing something right :)

But no, Sony is not as bad as Microsoft. Anyone with half a brain who has noticed all the crap from Kinect to "True4K" to redefining what exclusivity means this gen has noticed that, it's just pathetic really.

I don't want to "believe" anything. Numbers don't lie, you can choose not to believe facts but they are facts either when you want them to be or not. I never said 40% more powerful is not an advantage but it is a pretty pathetic advantage when we're talking about a $100 more expensive machine with a game library that pales quality-wise in comparison to the competition.

And you wonder why nobody here likes you. Keep up the solid trolling. It's a one way ticket for ya. You will be gone like the rest of the alts in short order. Enjoy it while it lasts, lol. We will be here when you come back with your new alt.

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#132 PinkAnimal
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@kvally said:
@pinkanimal said:
@kvally said:
@pinkanimal said:
@kvally said:

I am a manticore, and I don't trust MS nor Sony. They are shady mother fuckers!

Do you trust Digital Foundry? Or only when it favors Sony?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-microsofts-xbox-one-x-benchmarks-revealed

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-xbox-one-looks-stunning-but-we-need-to-see-more

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-project-scorpio-tech-revealed

If you can't trust Digital Foundry, game developers, nor Microsoft.....then you better trust god! LOL

I trust DF but they have never said that the X1X is 50% more powerful than the PS4. These are statements DF has said though:

-Checkerbord 4k looks as good as native and you wouldn't be able to notice the difference unless you're a few feet away.

-Only Forza on E3 from Microsft's side was actually running on native 4k

Apart from that they have mentioned nothing about percentages or much about differences in power.

Also I trust Sony 1 million times more than MS. Sony was not very honest last gen but this gen they have been pretty straightforward unlike Microsoft which haven't stopped lying and lying and making up BS terms just to deceive naive lemmings that have trouble thinking for themselves. Hell they don't even show sales numbers anymore, lol cowards.

Nope. Sony and Microsoft are both lying, conniving, dishonest, untrustworthy corporations, equally. It's a sad state of affairs. And they surely did mention difference in power, which was a hot topic when the video they did came out.

Hey, if you want to believe that 43% more powerful in Flops and 60% more memory isn't an advantage, that is your prerogative. Not that it matters....as an alt you have zero credibility here on our forum.

You're like the worst troll I've seen on this site and I've seen several people said that while nobody ever takes you seriously, you're just beyond lame, so you telling me I have no credibility is actually a compliment and a testament that I must be doing something right :)

But no, Sony is not as bad as Microsoft. Anyone with half a brain who has noticed all the crap from Kinect to "True4K" to redefining what exclusivity means this gen has noticed that, it's just pathetic really.

I don't want to "believe" anything. Numbers don't lie, you can choose not to believe facts but they are facts either when you want them to be or not. I never said 40% more powerful is not an advantage but it is a pretty pathetic advantage when we're talking about a $100 more expensive machine with a game library that pales quality-wise in comparison to the competition.

And you wonder why nobody here likes you. Keep up the solid trolling. It's a one way ticket for ya. You will be gone like the rest of the alts in short order. Enjoy it while it lasts, lol. We will be here when you come back with your new alt.

You're not exactly miss popularity here either. Are you really so self deluded? lol

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#133  Edited By kvally
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@pinkanimal said:
@kvally said:
@pinkanimal said:
@kvally said:
@pinkanimal said:

I trust DF but they have never said that the X1X is 50% more powerful than the PS4. These are statements DF has said though:

-Checkerbord 4k looks as good as native and you wouldn't be able to notice the difference unless you're a few feet away.

-Only Forza on E3 from Microsft's side was actually running on native 4k

Apart from that they have mentioned nothing about percentages or much about differences in power.

Also I trust Sony 1 million times more than MS. Sony was not very honest last gen but this gen they have been pretty straightforward unlike Microsoft which haven't stopped lying and lying and making up BS terms just to deceive naive lemmings that have trouble thinking for themselves. Hell they don't even show sales numbers anymore, lol cowards.

Nope. Sony and Microsoft are both lying, conniving, dishonest, untrustworthy corporations, equally. It's a sad state of affairs. And they surely did mention difference in power, which was a hot topic when the video they did came out.

Hey, if you want to believe that 43% more powerful in Flops and 60% more memory isn't an advantage, that is your prerogative. Not that it matters....as an alt you have zero credibility here on our forum.

You're like the worst troll I've seen on this site and I've seen several people said that while nobody ever takes you seriously, you're just beyond lame, so you telling me I have no credibility is actually a compliment and a testament that I must be doing something right :)

But no, Sony is not as bad as Microsoft. Anyone with half a brain who has noticed all the crap from Kinect to "True4K" to redefining what exclusivity means this gen has noticed that, it's just pathetic really.

I don't want to "believe" anything. Numbers don't lie, you can choose not to believe facts but they are facts either when you want them to be or not. I never said 40% more powerful is not an advantage but it is a pretty pathetic advantage when we're talking about a $100 more expensive machine with a game library that pales quality-wise in comparison to the competition.

And you wonder why nobody here likes you. Keep up the solid trolling. It's a one way ticket for ya. You will be gone like the rest of the alts in short order. Enjoy it while it lasts, lol. We will be here when you come back with your new alt.

You're not exactly miss popularity here either. Are you really so self deluded? lol

^lol...you crack us up.

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#134  Edited By EG101
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@techhog89 said:

@EG101: They are. It's the bandwidth and extra RAM that adds to the difference. The GPU difference is only a little bigger on its own though. You saying that it's 3x the difference because the difference in raw flops is 3x as big is just proof that you don't know what you're talking about.

"1.84 TF's is OVER 3X the GPU difference than the PS4 had over the XB1 500 GF's.

That's just GPU difference.

There are other huge improvements like 50% more Bandwidth, 50% more Ram and Faster instead of Slower CPU plus other Xbox custom improvements to the Jaguar to improve Latency. All Together cumulatively the visible difference will be about 3X more than the visible difference between PS4 and XB1. Those are all Facts so give it up."

Quoted Myself.

So you Admit that the Difference between XB1X and Pro is More than 3X the difference there is between XB1 and PS4. Thanks for finally admitting it. I know it took a lot for you to do it.

I already stated the huge improvements in bandwidth, Ram and Faster CPU but you ignored my original Post to Prove you have NO Clue what you're talking about. There is no way to quantify those difference according to some other Posters (I disagree).

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#135  Edited By Ryu_Silveira
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@kvally said:
@SecretPolice said:
@kvally said:
@pinkanimal said:
@kvally said:

The fact that the X1X is 50% more powerful

40% more powerful only. Confirmed by Microsoft themselves.

LOL, what? Now you trust Microsoft? Which is it alt? You can't have it both ways, ROFL!

Poo lil pinko, just gets rekt all day, every day...

lolol :P

Oh snap! That is a great representation of what just happened to him, lol! Poor alt.

Since the first page when @navyguy21 was ripping him a new one, I see it still continues...lmfao. Poor @pinkanimal...this is a hardcore cow to the extreme...lol.