Digital Foundry tech analysis of Titanfall is out! (E3 Demo)

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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-titanfall-tech-analysis

 

"However, the actual benefits of Xbox One's cloud computing remain uncertain. The promise is that AI and physics calculations are handled remotely, from the 300,000 servers set up by Microsoft's cloud service, Azure."

"Looking for practical evidence of it during the demo, the AI element is accounted for by the many CPU players, whose decisions can feasibly be determined by a remote, host machine. On the other hand, physics-based interactions are kept to such a bare minimum in Titanfall that it's not clear where any external influence comes into effect."

"In the pursuit of 60fps, something has to give way though - and it usually comes to light when looking too closely. It's the uncanny facial animations during NPC briefings, the rough-looking textures on Titan interiors and billboards..."

"The jaggies are a curious point in particular; even judged by the high quality feed we have availability direct from the Microsoft E3 conference there's more sub-pixel shimmering and rough edges than any other game on show, which suggests this may not be a full-blown 1080p title in its current state."

"While 60fps is inevitably a slam-dunk for the Source engine if the active hardware here is indeed a PC, it's curious to see Respawn's shorter two-minute trailer, which precedes the gameplay demo, struggling to reach 50fps in spots and showing clearly the devastating effects of double-buffer v-sync when frame rendering runs over the ultra-tight 16.67ms budget. This trailer cuts together a montage of clips to show off more intensive, cinematic scenes alongside gameplay from new levels, where those featuring heavy effects work and broader draw distances visibly suffer from stutter. With one close-up of a Titan descending to just 40fps..."

 

So much hype for nothing... now i understand why other are going for 30fps, if its very stable is more than enough.

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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-titanfall-tech-analysis

 

"However, the actual benefits of Xbox One's cloud computing remain uncertain. The promise is that AI and physics calculations are handled remotely, from the 300,000 servers set up by Microsoft's cloud service, Azure."

"Looking for practical evidence of it during the demo, the AI element is accounted for by the many CPU players, whose decisions can feasibly be determined by a remote, host machine. On the other hand, physics-based interactions are kept to such a bare minimum in Titanfall that it's not clear where any external influence comes into effect."

"In the pursuit of 60fps, something has to give way though - and it usually comes to light when looking too closely. It's the uncanny facial animations during NPC briefings, the rough-looking textures on Titan interiors and billboards..."

"The jaggies are a curious point in particular; even judged by the high quality feed we have availability direct from the Microsoft E3 conference there's more sub-pixel shimmering and rough edges than any other game on show, which suggests this may not be a full-blown 1080p title in its current state."

ManatuBeard

 

So much hype for nothing... now i understand why other are going for 30fps, if its very stable is more than enough.

BUT

have you seen TITANFALL?! :lol:

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#4 superclocked
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I have more fun on classic SNES games than most of these so called high tech games.  SO all these numbers mean nothing to me.

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#5 k2theswiss
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How much did MS pay EA/Respawn to say garbage like this?
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#6 MGS2007
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But titanfall was going to be the next call of duty :lol:

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#7 deactivated-5f19d4c9d7318
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So sub-HD, frame rate drops, static environments and no animation in even the grass and trees, no rag doll too? And lems are hyping this as their big next gen title...
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So sub-HD, frame rate drops, static environments and no animation in even the grass and trees, no rag doll too? And lems are hyping this as their big next gen title...hoosier7

Thats MS for you... all smoke and mirrors!

Cheap visual tricks, lots of cut corners. Thats why Forza 5 looks so shiny and runs at 1080p60, because there isnt a single ounce of innovation there (Driveatar concept is so lame i would even be ashamed to mention it if i was a xbot).

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[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-titanfall-tech-analysis

 

"However, the actual benefits of Xbox One's cloud computing remain uncertain. The promise is that AI and physics calculations are handled remotely, from the 300,000 servers set up by Microsoft's cloud service, Azure."

"Looking for practical evidence of it during the demo, the AI element is accounted for by the many CPU players, whose decisions can feasibly be determined by a remote, host machine. On the other hand, physics-based interactions are kept to such a bare minimum in Titanfall that it's not clear where any external influence comes into effect."

"In the pursuit of 60fps, something has to give way though - and it usually comes to light when looking too closely. It's the uncanny facial animations during NPC briefings, the rough-looking textures on Titan interiors and billboards..."

"The jaggies are a curious point in particular; even judged by the high quality feed we have availability direct from the Microsoft E3 conference there's more sub-pixel shimmering and rough edges than any other game on show, which suggests this may not be a full-blown 1080p title in its current state."

Krelian-co

 

So much hype for nothing... now i understand why other are going for 30fps, if its very stable is more than enough.

BUT

have you seen TITANFALL?! :lol:

I haven't but have YOU SEEN Titanfall!?

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do we need a stickied thread for titanfall?

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#11 SchnabbleTab
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Sounds more like Titanflop :lol:

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#12 SchnabbleTab
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Oh and Bu bu but the cloudz :cry:

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FIVE BILLION TRANSISTORS and can't handle a game running On Source. What an epic failure the X1 is bound to be, my gawd27476-Al-Bundy-laughing-gif-Io98.gif

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Oh gosh somebody needs to link up those screenshots. Here we are:

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eyecandy1.jpg

"Xbox, meet 2005."

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Oh gosh somebody needs to link up those screenshots. Here we are:

1280x-1

eyecandy1.jpg

"Xbox, meet 2005."

gamecubepad

dat grass... looks like Flower (PSN) lol

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#16 gamecubepad
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dat grass... looks like Flower (PSN) lol

ManatuBeard

wft is up? This has to be the Xbox 360 verison, right?

Yeah. No way this is running on a PC or X1.

No way.

No

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...lol damn it only took sheens a week to flipflop on digital foundry you guys are getting two faced politician down to a science.

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Oh gosh somebody needs to link up those screenshots. Here we are:

"Xbox, meet 2005."

gamecubepad

Damn, that's depressing... please don't tell me that's a shot from the X1 version! :(

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Damn, that's depressing... please don't tell me that's a shot from the X1 version! :(

Rocker6

Well, I'm already in denial, so why don't you join me? Let's pretend they debuted Titanfall, the next-gen X1 heavy hitter on a Xbox 360. 

[spoiler]

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[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

Oh gosh somebody needs to link up those screenshots. Here we are:

"Xbox, meet 2005."

Rocker6

Damn, that's depressing... please don't tell me that's a shot from the X1 version! :(

Either PC or X1, take your pick.

The 360 port is being done/going to be done by an "un-identified" studio, so it unlikely that we have screens of the 360 version if we dont even know the name of the studio porting it.

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DF basically says the game had the worse image quality at E3 and is likely not even 1080p :lol::lol:

 

pretty poor all around :P

 

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#22 HerzogJan
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do we need a stickied thread for titanfall?

CaseyWegner

 

Titanfall is the new multiplat Xbox token to battle the Sony Exclusives. Expect a lot more threads.

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#23 Zaibach
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more like Titanfail...

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Titanfail........lolol
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They even said Titanfall maxed out XB1 hardware. XB1's full power is a source game running sub-HD confirmed. :lol:

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Wow... There are truly somepeople with some deep seeded pain over this game... Its becoming remarkably pathetic. I hope every game is AAAA including Titanfall....
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"More sub-pixel shimmering and rough edges than any game on show"

Lol the power of cloud.  If your were hyping this as something to be held over ps4 take a bow for stupidity.  You deserve it.

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#28 danjammer69
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...and not a single Lem to be seen.

Where are you all now, eh? All the crap threads you guys make about this damn game, you would think at least one of you would show up to defend this mess.

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#29 gamebreakerz__
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Did anyone actually expect a decade old engine to produce next gen graphics? Even the PC version will look sub par.
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do cows forget that titanfall is also 360 and pc games offcourse the graphics is not like next gen


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#31 gpuking
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This is a very good reminder to any lemming who touts 1080p/60fps as if it's some sort of achievement, even Uncharted 3 on PS3 looks better AND with swaying foliage.
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#32 NFJSupreme
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I wonder what the PC version looks like.
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Wow... There are truly somepeople with some deep seeded pain over this game... Its becoming remarkably pathetic. I hope every game is AAAA including Titanfall.... TheEroica
Yes agreed, cows will be very upset when his title launches, you will hear stuff like " I will just wait till it comes out on the ps4 in a couple of months" :lol:
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More cow buthurt. It will run 60fps. :lol: Don't worry you it will be only running at 30fps in your head. Have fun playing Knack!
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#35 sebbi11
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Titanfall in 60fps, that rocks... this is getting worse and worse for the cows, i almost feel sorry for them, they deserve a good multiplayer exclusive too (without input lag).

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#36 silversix_
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H E L L O. Looks like Titanfall is reaching Quake 4 level of beauty. Notice the sexy next gen textures on the left of Titanflop pic, stunning.
quake4.jpgimage_titanfall-22359-2742_0011.jpg

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So much hype for nothing... now i understand why other are going for 30fps, if its very stable is more than enough.

ManatuBeard

 

But the cloud will inject the power of 40 xbox 360 duck tape together...:lol:

 

Funny what they say about the AI which is basically the same i was pointing out this is a multiplayer game,so where the hell the so call incredible AI is.?

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More cow buthurt. It will run 60fps. :lol: Don't worry you it will be only running at 30fps in your head. Have fun playing Knack!robybaggio
Did you miss the rest? Everything looks bland and is maybe subhd!! Hell,grass/trees that don't even move :lol:

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Knack=launch game :D

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More cow buthurt. It will run 60fps. :lol: Don't worry you it will be only running at 30fps in your head. Have fun playing Knack!robybaggio

 

Right.... i rather have 30fps next gen looking, than 60fps looking worse than current gen games (TLoU, UC3).

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[QUOTE="robybaggio"]More cow buthurt. It will run 60fps. :lol: Don't worry you it will be only running at 30fps in your head. Have fun playing Knack!killzowned24

Did you miss the rest? Everything looks bland and is maybe subhd!! Hell,grass/trees that don't even move :lol:

1280x-1

 

Knack=launch game :D

Yes kiddie go play Knack, isn't it passed your bedtime. Titanfall is for grown-ups. :)
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

[QUOTE="robybaggio"]More cow buthurt. It will run 60fps. :lol: Don't worry you it will be only running at 30fps in your head. Have fun playing Knack!robybaggio

Did you miss the rest? Everything looks bland and is maybe subhd!! Hell,grass/trees that don't even move :lol:

1280x-1

 

Knack=launch game :D

Yes kiddie go play Knack, isn't it passed your bedtime. Titanfall is for grown-ups. :)

:lol: 14 player Titanfall is nothing in comparison to Planetside 2 with its 2000 players :P
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

[QUOTE="robybaggio"]More cow buthurt. It will run 60fps. :lol: Don't worry you it will be only running at 30fps in your head. Have fun playing Knack!robybaggio

Did you miss the rest? Everything looks bland and is maybe subhd!! Hell,grass/trees that don't even move :lol:

1280x-1

 

Knack=launch game :D

Yes kiddie go play Knack, isn't it passed your bedtime. Titanfall is for grown-ups. :)

Funny because i bet it'll be largely populated by 13 year olds like CoD and Halo has been for years.
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I'm a big fan of the source engine. The models (even on old games with low res textures like VTM) tend to look very emotive and natural compared to many much newer titles like Heavy Fail or Uncharted 2: Drakes Fail. Infinity Ward are massively overrated though and these fellows who got paid millions acting like deva-clowns too imporant to be part of the norm when people are starving showis what massive asswipes these dudes are. I hope ths game fails. It sounds like fail.

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[QUOTE="robybaggio"]More cow buthurt. It will run 60fps. :lol: Don't worry you it will be only running at 30fps in your head. Have fun playing Knack!

So just disregard everything that was said in the OP, right? 'If I believe hard enough it will run at 60fps and 1080p'
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"On the other hand, physics-based interactions are kept to such a bare minimum in Titanfall that it's not clear where any external influence comes into effect." "The demo shows a largely static level by design, with no procedural damage to the environment in the manner of Battlefield 4 or The Division, nor rag-doll physics - everything is set in stone, and not even the grass or trees animate" This bit's actually kind of sad, i was hoping with all the new hardware we'd seen more interactive environments. Seems the shoddy X1 hardware and the need to use the cloud means we're going to have to have dead worlds on the X1.
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#46 RR360DD
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So much hype for nothing... now i understand why other are going for 30fps, if its very stable is more than enough.

ManatuBeard

Graphics make a game do they? TitanFall looks great, I'd much rather take silky smooth 60fps gameplay that the ex-IW guys are known for instead of input-lag ridden, all flash no substance Clownzone

:lol:

I mean the fact TitanFall is running on the ancient Source engine should be indication enough that this is a dev studio NOT trying to woo people over with just pretty graphics. Don't be so shallow.

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#47 tormentos
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do cows forget that titanfall is also 360 and pc games offcourse the graphics is not like next gen


-owned-

nyzma23

 

Oh please Crysis 3 is also consoles and PC and still look next gen on PC with power enoug to run it,even on very low detail the games look better than console versions,is a scalable engine.

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[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

Oh gosh somebody needs to link up those screenshots. Here we are:

 

"Xbox, meet 2005."

ManatuBeard

dat grass... looks like Flower (PSN) lol

Nope: Flower's grass is fully animated and has physics interactions with the wind in the game.

It's pretty clear that this is an up-port from current gen machines and combined with the scale they're trying trying to achieve something had to give, evidently that is..just about everything that isn't the Titans themselves.

In the end it doesn't matter much if the gameplay is excellent, but that is yet to be seen.

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[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

So much hype for nothing... now i understand why other are going for 30fps, if its very stable is more than enough.

RR360DD

Graphics make a game do they? TitanFall looks great, I'd much rather take silky smooth 60fps gameplay that the ex-IW guys are known for instead of input-lag ridden, all flash no substance Clownzone

:lol:

I mean the fact TitanFall is running on the ancient Source engine should be indication enough that this is a dev studio NOT trying to woo people over with just pretty graphics. Don't be so shallow.

 

Dont worry, since it's ex-infinityward, the gamwplay will bw shallow as well.

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#50 tormentos
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H E L L O. Looks like Titanfall is reaching Quake 4 level of beauty. Notice the sexy next gen textures on the left of Titanflop pic, stunning.
image_titanfall-22359-2742_0011.jpg

silversix_

 

My good look at those wash out textures Killzone SF freaking mop the floor with this game graphically,i prefer 30FPS with all the visual candy than 60fps with graphics like this.