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#1 Hydrolex
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Looks like a great game is going to be wasted...

 

Why can't they delay the game for 6 more months and release it on PS4 and X1 with better grpahics and  overall, a better experience ?

 NOTE: Release it a long with PS3 and 360 of course

goodluck to all of us playing it at 25 30fps with those jaggies, short draw distance and ugly textures !

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#2 RedentSC
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main reason? money

 

They will release it eventually on next gen... but if they say they'll do that now... then their current gen sales will be next too nothing relative to what it could have been

 

its just business

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#4 Sagem28
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Awesome !

Blog it next time, tho.

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#5 razgriz_101
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why release it on a console with no install base and throw away 5 years of developement, i swear people on here are brain dead.
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#6 lilnazar
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I do agreed in that they should make a next gen port.

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#7 ConanTheStoner
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I bet this is how TC thinks game design works.

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#8 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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They don't want to take a risk with the Xbox One

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#9 Xaero_Gravity
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They don't want to take a risk with the Xbox One

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#10 Mr-Kutaragi
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Probably most expensive game to develop of all time, and you want to release on system that will have combine install base of couple millions by end of year? Please go sleep.
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#11 Darth_Kane
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Why are you so eager to throw money at Sony or M$ ?

Anyway, the PC version will come sooner or later

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#12 TheWalkingGhost
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Looks like a great game is going to be wasted...

 

Why can't they delay the game for 6 more months and release it on PS4 and X1 with better grpahics and  overall, a better experience ?

 

goodluck to all of us playing it at 25 30fps with those jaggies, short draw distance and ugly textures !

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Why can't you learn to spell graphics correctly? Your whole post is off, back off with you.
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#13 DarthBlackAdder
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Why can't they delay the game for 6 more months and release it on PS4 and X1 with better grpahics and  overall, a better experience ?

Hydrolex

They ARE doing that, except only for the PC master race

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#14 VendettaRed07
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Oh my its Hydrolex...

Now all we need is Bioshock and we can party like its 2009

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#15 lilnazar
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[QUOTE="Hydrolex"]

Why can't they delay the game for 6 more months and release it on PS4 and X1 with better grpahics and  overall, a better experience ?

DarthBlackAdder

They ARE doing that, except only for the PC master race

Enjoy waiting 6 months for the port. I can't wait to let you guys make drool over GTA V.
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#16 rjdofu
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Why release it now on consoles with large install base to grab money and re-release on next gen console later to grab even more money? Why u love money R*? WHY??? :cry:
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#17 MK-Professor
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[QUOTE="Hydrolex"]

Why can't they delay the game for 6 more months and release it on PS4 and X1 with better grpahics and  overall, a better experience ?

DarthBlackAdder

They ARE doing that, except only for the PC master race

^ this

I can wait to play this game with 2560x1440, 60fps, max settings, and the control scheme of my choice, mods, etc

 dirty console peasants I hope you enjoy your inferior version with 1280x720(or sub-HD), 25fps, low settings, etc :lol:

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#18 lilnazar
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[QUOTE="DarthBlackAdder"]

[QUOTE="Hydrolex"]

Why can't they delay the game for 6 more months and release it on PS4 and X1 with better grpahics and  overall, a better experience ?

MK-Professor

They ARE doing that, except only for the PC master race

^ this

I can wait to play this game with 2560x1440, 60fps, max settings, and the control scheme of my choice, mods, etc

 dirty console peasants I hope you enjoy your inferior version with 1280x720(or sub-HD), 25fps, low settings, etc :lol:

Oooooh, I'm so jelly (not).
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#19 Xaero_Gravity
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Oh my its Hydrolex...

Now all we need is Bioshock and we can party like its 2009

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#20 Shensolidus
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Please understand that all the systems and gameplay elements were designed with current-gen systems and architecture in mind. OP, you complained about the graphics and performance, yet the recent gameplay video was captured from a PS3, and it looked & ran mighty fine.

I don't want Rockstar's game that has been 5 years in development aimed for current-gen hardware to be put on next-gen just because they'll run better. I want a NEXT-GEN game that was built and designed with NEXT-GEN hardware architectures as the ceiling for their capability from Rockstar.

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#21 Hydrolex
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why release it on a console with no install base and throw away 5 years of developement, i swear people on here are brain dead.razgriz_101

 

you are the brain dead in here.... How would that hurt if they release it with PS4 X1 along with PS3 and 360 ????

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#22 PAL360
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Thy should release the game for 360 and PS3, and then port it to next gen platforms and PC. I want this game but i don't want to invest any more euros on current generation :?

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#23 Mr-Kutaragi
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]why release it on a console with no install base and throw away 5 years of developement, i swear people on here are brain dead.Hydrolex

 

you are the brain dead in here.... How would that hurt if they release it with PS4 X1 along with PS3 and 360 ????

They cannot do pc at same time as console, now you want them to develop on two more console also? Some game do, like assassin creed. Rockstar do not probably have that resource.
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#24 NathanDrakeSwag
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I bet they will eventually release a next-gen version but releasing it on current consoles is the smart move. You can't limit your audience for the biggest game of the year.

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#25 JamDev
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Install base of 150m or install base of 0? tough choice. I'm sure they will get round to a nextgen/PC port once they have made their money, but they aren't going to turn their backs on 20m+ current gen sales for the sake of a handful of early adopters.
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#26 the_bi99man
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Because it will take the PS4 and Xbox1 half a decade at least, to get anywhere near the install base that the PS3 and 360 have. Why is this so hard to compute for some people? Publishers like to make money. Releasing games for brand new consoles that nobody has yet is not the way to do that.

If you're really that worried about it, wait for the PC version. And don't say there might not be one. If you actually think there is any chance that GTA5  never  appears on PC, you're a moron and/or a fanboy.

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#27 the_bi99man
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]why release it on a console with no install base and throw away 5 years of developement, i swear people on here are brain dead.Hydrolex

 

you are the brain dead in here.... How would that hurt if they release it with PS4 X1 along with PS3 and 360 ????

Because that would increase development costs by millions upon millions of dollars, for the sake of a couple thousand extra sales, tops.

Economics. Learn about it.

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#28 Goyoshi12
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What exactly would be benificial for GTA V on next gen consoles, exactly?

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#29 rjdofu
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What exactly would be benificial for GTA V on next gen consoles, exactly?

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Better graphics, better performance, etc. It will come to next gen console sooner or later.
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#30 HyperWarlock
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Because not many people will have a next gen console at launch whereas everyone has a current gen console.

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#31 kipsta77
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To TC: Think before you post.

How dare you even question Rockstars ways. Shame on you!

MS and Sony each expect to sell 5 million next-gen consoles in 2014. That's a very small market compared to the +140 million PS3's and XBOX360's out there.

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#33 Goyoshi12
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[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

What exactly would be benificial for GTA V on next gen consoles, exactly?

rjdofu

Better graphics, better performance, etc. It will come to next gen console sooner or later.

So presumably....nothing.

Splendid.

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#34 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

What exactly would be benificial for GTA V on next gen consoles, exactly?

Goyoshi12

Better graphics, better performance, etc. It will come to next gen console sooner or later.

So presumably....nothing.

Splendid.

I wouldn't call a 30FPS boost nothing.(assuming they go with performance instead of just cranking up graphics)
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#35 Goyoshi12
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[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

[QUOTE="rjdofu"] Better graphics, better performance, etc. It will come to next gen console sooner or later.rjdofu

So presumably....nothing.

Splendid.

I wouldn't call a 30FPS boost nothing.(assuming they go with performance instead of just cranking up graphics)

It's still the same game. You're still playing the same end result; just smoother. If somehow those two differences is enough to either put someone off of a game or be disappointed in it then, sorry, they're honestly an idiot.

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#36 deactivated-66e3137ab3ad5
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Looks like you haven't been to Video Games Industry 101 yet.
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#37 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

So presumably....nothing.

Splendid.

Goyoshi12

I wouldn't call a 30FPS boost nothing.(assuming they go with performance instead of just cranking up graphics)

It's still the same game. You're still playing the same end result; just smoother. If somehow those two differences is enough to either put someone off of a game or be disappointed in it then, sorry, they're honestly an idiot.

Tell me you're not serious :|. What's wrong with expecting next gen console will deliver? A difference of 30FPS is not "just smoother", it directly affects the experience.
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#38 Goyoshi12
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[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

[QUOTE="rjdofu"] I wouldn't call a 30FPS boost nothing.(assuming they go with performance instead of just cranking up graphics) rjdofu

It's still the same game. You're still playing the same end result; just smoother. If somehow those two differences is enough to either put someone off of a game or be disappointed in it then, sorry, they're honestly an idiot.

Tell me you're not serious :|. What's wrong with expecting next gen console will deliver? A difference of 30FPS is not "just smoother", it directly affects the experience.

It changes the game completely? Damn....that's like getting two games in one then; you're playing the inital game and suddenly in another second you're playing another compeltely different game!

Amazing.

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[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

[QUOTE="rjdofu"] I wouldn't call a 30FPS boost nothing.(assuming they go with performance instead of just cranking up graphics) rjdofu

It's still the same game. You're still playing the same end result; just smoother. If somehow those two differences is enough to either put someone off of a game or be disappointed in it then, sorry, they're honestly an idiot.

Tell me you're not serious :|. What's wrong with expecting next gen console will deliver? A difference of 30FPS is not "just smoother", it directly affects the experience.

Gotta agree there. Framerate is  huge.  That's why I'm not worrying about petty "generations", and just waiting for the PC version.

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[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

It's still the same game. You're still playing the same end result; just smoother. If somehow those two differences is enough to either put someone off of a game or be disappointed in it then, sorry, they're honestly an idiot.

Goyoshi12

Tell me you're not serious :|. What's wrong with expecting next gen console will deliver? A difference of 30FPS is not "just smoother", it directly affects the experience.

It changes the game completely? Damn....that's like getting two games in one then; you're playing the inital game and suddenly in another second you're playing another compeltely different game!

Amazing.

Speaking from experience, a lot of people don't care about a game being 60FPS instead of 30FPS or vice versa.
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#41 the_bi99man
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

It's still the same game. You're still playing the same end result; just smoother. If somehow those two differences is enough to either put someone off of a game or be disappointed in it then, sorry, they're honestly an idiot.

Goyoshi12

Tell me you're not serious :|. What's wrong with expecting next gen console will deliver? A difference of 30FPS is not "just smoother", it directly affects the experience.

It changes the game completely? Damn....that's like getting two games in one then; you're playing the inital game and suddenly in another second you're playing another compeltely different game!

Amazing.

That's not at all what he meant, and I'm pretty sure you know that.

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#42 dommeus
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Expect to see GOTY editions with beefed up graphics and all the DLC on the PS4 and One at some point in the future

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#43 ManatuBeard
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Ideally, they would make the game cross-gen. Release it on current gen 1st because of the huge install base, and 3-4 months later (when sales dry out) release the nextgen version to crop some more $$$. Sadly not all devs/publishers have power and money to create currentgen and nextgen at the same time, so they have to settle for the biggest install base and hope that they get enough returns to fund a possible nextgen port (No PC version was announced maybe for that reason, since PC and nextgen are similar, they might do nextgen and PC if the sales of current gen are good)

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#44 Goyoshi12
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[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

[QUOTE="rjdofu"] Tell me you're not serious :|. What's wrong with expecting next gen console will deliver? A difference of 30FPS is not "just smoother", it directly affects the experience.the_bi99man

It changes the game completely? Damn....that's like getting two games in one then; you're playing the inital game and suddenly in another second you're playing another compeltely different game!

Amazing.

That's not at all what he meant, and I'm pretty sure you know that.

Doesn't change the fact that GTA V whether on this gen or next gen consoles it won't change the "core gameplay" which is what people will more or less be focusing on. Also, how can you be so sure it's the consoles fault and not the developers? People have gamed on those consoles for years and I haven't really heard any complaints about graphics or performance issues that lead me to think it was due to hardware limitation instead of the developer's limitation.

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#45 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

It changes the game completely? Damn....that's like getting two games in one then; you're playing the inital game and suddenly in another second you're playing another compeltely different game!

Amazing.

Goyoshi12

That's not at all what he meant, and I'm pretty sure you know that.

Doesn't change the fact that GTA V whether on this gen or next gen consoles it won't change the "core gameplay" which is what people will more or less be focusing on. Also, how can you be so sure it's the consoles fault and not the developers? People have gamed on those consoles for years and I haven't really heard any complaints about graphics or performance issues that lead me to think it was due to hardware limitation instead of the developer's limitation.

It doesn't change the "core gameplay" but i'm sure as hell it will affects how you play. Let say there's a 6 framerate dips. From 60 > 54FPS, totally managable, however from 30-24FPS you will clearly notice the difference. You just contradict yourself by saying that those console has been around for years. The industry advances, so does the demand for better graphics and performance, but the console stay the same. The hardware limitation at this point in time is painfully obvious. With the old hardware of the PS3/360, it is impossible to produce that level of graphics with 60FPS, they have to sacrifice one thing for another. With next gen consoles, they can achieve all of that. Think before you post.
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#46 Goyoshi12
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[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

That's not at all what he meant, and I'm pretty sure you know that.

rjdofu

Doesn't change the fact that GTA V whether on this gen or next gen consoles it won't change the "core gameplay" which is what people will more or less be focusing on. Also, how can you be so sure it's the consoles fault and not the developers? People have gamed on those consoles for years and I haven't really heard any complaints about graphics or performance issues that lead me to think it was due to hardware limitation instead of the developer's limitation.

It doesn't change the "core gameplay" but i'm sure as hell it will affects how you play. Let say there's a 6 framerate dips. From 60 > 54FPS, totally managable, however from 30-24FPS you will clearly notice the difference. You just contradict yourself by saying that those console has been around for years. The industry advances, so does the demand for better graphics and performance, but the console stay the same. The hardware limitation at this point in time is painfully obvious. With the old hardware of the PS3/360, it is impossible to produce that level of graphics with 60FPS, they have to sacrifice one thing for another. With next gen consoles, they can achieve all of that. Think before you post.

How many times does that happen though for games now and how long does it last? Alright, a dip like that would probably be noticeable but if it lasts for like only a second or two it shouldn't really matter all that much, should it? Also, I have never owned a gaming system in my life so I barely know any of these things. I'm able to play on PCs but I wouldn't classify them as what you may call "gaming PC" so....yeah. I guess if I saw it in person maybe I would understand but to me it just seems stupid to be disappointed in something like this. You're gonna come out with a great game either way so what's the problem.

I guess my apologies, it's just....I guess I don't understand much.

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#47 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]why release it on a console with no install base and throw away 5 years of developement, i swear people on here are brain dead.Hydrolex

 

you are the brain dead in here.... How would that hurt if they release it with PS4 X1 along with PS3 and 360 ????

lets see you've got to develop the ports, buy the dev kits, get the staff trained and put resources into that and Rockstar north isnt exactly the size of Ubisoft Montreal. In buisness, its a sane move (high install base = more potential sales) thats the short and long and to throw a curve ball in here sicne you seem to be the brainless one and neglected to read the fact its been in dev for 5ish years which is faaar faar longer than even the developers knew bout the next gen consoles.Not to mention they owuld need to port RAGE over and get it stable first.
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Does anyone know what the GTAV budget is?
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#49 SaltyMeatballs
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Looks like a great game is going to be wasted...

 

Why can't they delay the game for 6 more months and release it on PS4 and X1 with better grpahics and  overall, a better experience ?

 

goodluck to all of us playing it at 25 30fps with those jaggies, short draw distance and ugly textures !

Hydrolex
But it will be on next gen consoles... they just won't announce it yet until people are done buying the current gen version.
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#50 dramaybaz
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why release it on a console with no install base and throw away 5 years of developement, i swear people on here are brain dead.razgriz_101
This. Besides I am sure they will release a port for PC and next gen systems.