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#201 Alpha-Male22
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Never played the series but only after looking at this hype thread am I interested!

I LOVE JRPGs, really feel this gen lacks them, but I know little of this series. Must RESEARCH!

How long is it? Characters/party system, exploration? Combat is turn based? Story driven much? Do I need to play previous games in the series or is it standalone?

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#202 Arach666
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Hmm,expected higher tbh,but still pretty good score.
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#203 ShuichiChamp24
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Mmmwksil, you sig while in this thread, made me laugh. Anyway, hope the ones who bought it enjoy it.
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#204 ianuilliam
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[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Its GS man, nothing can be helped, once MW3 releases it will get a full 9.5/10 or heck they'll give a 10/10 to BF just because it has airplanes and good graphics. when the reviwer suck at games they blame and lower down the games *looks at inf2* or when a game has too much content they lower the score and blame the game * looks at ratchet and clank* and so on

finalstar2007

Why I operate on impulse and names instead of reviews. Oh how I miss the days of walking into a store and picking out whatever game had the most appealing boxart.

Nowadays, even if you try, you'll still end up watching videos for any game before buying. Because it's available to you :(

LOL i used to do that and still do at times haha, i never base my purchases on scores or numbers, never! i buy whatever i like and if i can afford it. ah the PS2 days i used to buy the games based on their box arts too and the box art with the most attractive girl on it is a buy! :lol:.. good times

My GotY is a 7.0 multiplat. Scores serve no purpose other than SW metagame.

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#205 finalstar2007
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

LOL i used to do that and still do at times haha, i never base my purchases on scores or numbers, never! i buy whatever i like and if i can afford it. ah the PS2 days i used to buy the games based on their box arts too and the box art with the most attractive girl on it is a buy! :lol:.. good times

mmmwksil

If I had done that, I'd have picked up Shadow Hearts 2 back in the PS2 era :P Dat boxart :oops:

But one also has to beware the anime art :o it tends to attract the eye and mislead us!

Thats why i ended up buying Shadow hearts :P. man i had over 200 games on the PS2 with 90% of them all being JRPGs

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#207 mmmwksil
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[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

LOL i used to do that and still do at times haha, i never base my purchases on scores or numbers, never! i buy whatever i like and if i can afford it. ah the PS2 days i used to buy the games based on their box arts too and the box art with the most attractive girl on it is a buy! :lol:.. good times

finalstar2007

If I had done that, I'd have picked up Shadow Hearts 2 back in the PS2 era :P Dat boxart :oops:

But one also has to beware the anime art :o it tends to attract the eye and mislead us!

Thats why i ended up buying Shadow hearts :P. man i had over 200 games on the PS2 with 90% of them all being JRPGs

Wait... you claim to have had 180 JRPGs on PS2??

Sorry, not buying it.

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#208 Bwaawesome
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Link for the review please.TheGuardian03

Here you go man (Probably answered already though :P)

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/strategy/disgaea-4/review.html?tag=summary%3Bread-review

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#210 finalstar2007
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

If I had done that, I'd have picked up Shadow Hearts 2 back in the PS2 era :P Dat boxart :oops:

But one also has to beware the anime art :o it tends to attract the eye and mislead us!

mmmwksil

Thats why i ended up buying Shadow hearts :P. man i had over 200 games on the PS2 with 90% of them all being JRPGs

Wait... you claim to have had 180 JRPGs on PS2??

Sorry, not buying it.

Im very serious man, i had so many JRPGs on it and i played nothing back then but the JRPGs! only this gen and thanks to the PS3 is when i started doing FPS, action, hack and slash and so on, i used to hate games like god of war or uncharted, now im a huge fan :P. you gave me an idea for my next blog tho, i will sometime when im free do and take pictures of all my PS2 games..at least what remained of them since i gave some to my friends, my cousins, etc

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#211 finalstar2007
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Never played the series but only after looking at this hype thread am I interested!

I LOVE JRPGs, really feel this gen lacks them, but I know little of this series. Must RESEARCH!

How long is it? Characters/party system, exploration? Combat is turn based? Story driven much? Do I need to play previous games in the series or is it standalone?

Alpha-Male22

Disgaea 4 is the best for new comers and no need to play the past games, start with Disgaea 4 and you'll love it! Disgaea games are very long, too long soemtimes and are very hilarious, combat is stradegy, you can view some of its gameplay on youtube. party system, you can play as any character and can even go online and invade other players

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#212 Yangire
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[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Thats why i ended up buying Shadow hearts :P. man i had over 200 games on the PS2 with 90% of them all being JRPGs

finalstar2007

Wait... you claim to have had 180 JRPGs on PS2??

Sorry, not buying it.

Im very serious man, i had so many JRPGs on it and i played nothing back then but the JRPGs! only this gen and thanks to the PS3 is when i started doing FPS, action, hack and slash and so on, i used to hate games like god of war or uncharted, now im a huge fan :P. you gave me an idea for my next blog tho, i will sometime when im free do and take pictures of all my PS2 games..at least what remained of them since i gave some to my friends, my cousins, etc

So you really think you have 180 JRPGs for the PS2? There aren't even that many on the PS2 if you don't import.

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#213 mmmwksil
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Im very serious man, i had so many JRPGs on it and i played nothing back then but the JRPGs! only this gen and thanks to the PS3 is when i started doing FPS, action, hack and slash and so on, i used to hate games like god of war or uncharted, now im a huge fan :P. you gave me an idea for my next blog tho, i will sometime when im free do and take pictures of all my PS2 games..at least what remained of them since i gave some to my friends, my cousins, etc

finalstar2007

But 180? Surely you exaggerate, man! A more reasonable number, please. :| 30, 40 is pushing it.

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#214 Ziek-AAT
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Typical score from GS, don't care because I'm loving it. Currently in Chapter 5 now; I think I'm way too overpowered for this point in the game with my Valvatorez at Level 56 :lol:

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#215 finalstar2007
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Im very serious man, i had so many JRPGs on it and i played nothing back then but the JRPGs! only this gen and thanks to the PS3 is when i started doing FPS, action, hack and slash and so on, i used to hate games like god of war or uncharted, now im a huge fan :P. you gave me an idea for my next blog tho, i will sometime when im free do and take pictures of all my PS2 games..at least what remained of them since i gave some to my friends, my cousins, etc

mmmwksil

But 180? Surely you exaggerate, man! A more reasonable number, please. :| 30, 40 is pushing it.

Maybe im indeed putting a big number, sure been too long since the last time i opened up my PS2 collection, sadly im far from home to go and check. hopefully if i remember during x-mas when after the uni final exams will go and check, count and take pictures. the smallest game collection i got is for the DS with only one game :P and psp with like 11 games. PS3 keep getting bigger and bigger

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#216 mmmwksil
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[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Im very serious man, i had so many JRPGs on it and i played nothing back then but the JRPGs! only this gen and thanks to the PS3 is when i started doing FPS, action, hack and slash and so on, i used to hate games like god of war or uncharted, now im a huge fan :P. you gave me an idea for my next blog tho, i will sometime when im free do and take pictures of all my PS2 games..at least what remained of them since i gave some to my friends, my cousins, etc

finalstar2007

But 180? Surely you exaggerate, man! A more reasonable number, please. :| 30, 40 is pushing it.

Maybe im indeed putting a big number, sure been too long since the last time i opened up my PS2 collection, sadly im far from home to go and check. hopefully if i remember during x-mas when after the uni final exams will go and check, count and take pictures. the smallest game collection i got is for the DS with only one game :P and psp with like 11 games. PS3 keep getting bigger and bigger

One game on DS is pitiful considering the plethora of quality RPG on there :o

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#217 finalstar2007
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Typical score from GS, don't care because I'm loving it. Currently in Chapter 5 now; I think I'm way too overpowered for this point in the game with my Valvatorez at Level 56 :lol:

Ziek-AAT

Im waiting for the DLC! :P..i hope we get some kind of level booster like WKC2 :P.. yup just a few days ago picked up WKC2 and loving it! :cry:

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#218 glez13
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I was expecting AA. On MC it's AA but then comes bully GS and wham! 7.5 in the nuts. :cry:

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#219 soulitane
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[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Im very serious man, i had so many JRPGs on it and i played nothing back then but the JRPGs! only this gen and thanks to the PS3 is when i started doing FPS, action, hack and slash and so on, i used to hate games like god of war or uncharted, now im a huge fan :P. you gave me an idea for my next blog tho, i will sometime when im free do and take pictures of all my PS2 games..at least what remained of them since i gave some to my friends, my cousins, etc

finalstar2007

But 180? Surely you exaggerate, man! A more reasonable number, please. :| 30, 40 is pushing it.

Maybe im indeed putting a big number, sure been too long since the last time i opened up my PS2 collection, sadly im far from home to go and check. hopefully if i remember during x-mas when after the uni final exams will go and check, count and take pictures. the smallest game collection i got is for the DS with only one game :P and psp with like 11 games. PS3 keep getting bigger and bigger

Only one game for the DS? I thought you loved JRPG games and there are plenty of great JRPGs on the DS. Especially TWEWY!
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#220 Bigboi500
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GS score seems a little low to me.

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#221 Midnightshade29
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[QUOTE="Ziek-AAT"]

Typical score from GS, don't care because I'm loving it. Currently in Chapter 5 now; I think I'm way too overpowered for this point in the game with my Valvatorez at Level 56 :lol:

finalstar2007

Im waiting for the DLC! :P..i hope we get some kind of level booster like WKC2 :P.. yup just a few days ago picked up WKC2 and loving it! :cry:

Is WKC2 better than the first? I liked the story in the first but the online crap turned me off. I like playing rpgs single player. If i wanted an mmo, I would still be playing Everquest 2, and Age of Connan. Is WKC2 Single Player good enough to play? As for the Disgaea 4 review.... GS is full of crap latley. All the bad review scores... unless your a kinect game or a muscle bound crap game that gives GS thousands of $$ advertising... have you seen all those banner ads and videos adverts before videos? total bs.... and a 9.5 here... DS4 got robbed... so did Infamous 2, Ratchet and Clank, R3, etc....Pisses me off because people will ignore D4 because of GS. ... How many sys wars commentors say they ignore "Flopps" a lot of them...and it sucks as I want good devs to get money for making hardcore games...especially jrpgs.. I could go on for paragraphs on my view on this but i will stop less I say something I didn't mean to say.
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#222 thatisfalse
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gamespot gave it a 7.5? gamespot can eat a dic. I'm done with this site, the forums are terrible in more ways than one and the reviews are always skewed. seriously though, this forum is comprised of %99 fanboys, you should be ashamed of yourselves. EAT PENOR GAMESPOT!!
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#223 kuraimen
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The problem with this site is that they have a bunch of shooter fans reviewing shooters but they don't have any jrpg fans here. The same standards are definitely not applied. That happens to a lot of other sites too not just this one.
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#224 FlamesOfGrey
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[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Im very serious man, i had so many JRPGs on it and i played nothing back then but the JRPGs! only this gen and thanks to the PS3 is when i started doing FPS, action, hack and slash and so on, i used to hate games like god of war or uncharted, now im a huge fan :P. you gave me an idea for my next blog tho, i will sometime when im free do and take pictures of all my PS2 games..at least what remained of them since i gave some to my friends, my cousins, etc

But 180? Surely you exaggerate, man! A more reasonable number, please. :| 30, 40 is pushing it.

He is, I own just about every N.A. released PS2 RPG and it caps at about 130.
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#225 dkdrumin
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... of course gamespot doesn't care about its small ps3 gaming community its not like its 10X as big as IGN.xbox will rule... only at this biased site (infamous)and this game lowest score is ... gamespot surprising.

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#226 hakanakumono
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Playing it now. The story is incredibly dull. It's just awful so far.

*somber castlevania chanting music*

"I'm totally in a dream!"

... lengthy pause ...

"She appears to ... think that ... she in a dream.

... pause ...

What a fool."

... lengthy pause ...

"Yes, ... it appears that she thinks she's in a dream."

*insert long and drawn out vaguely philosophical statement*

The story presentation is about as exciting as a textbook.

The game does use HD sprites, which look good, but animations look bad, even for a Disgaea game.

I hope this changes soon, because this could be the biggest disappointment of the year.

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#227 CajunShooter
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As for the Disgaea 4 review.... GS is full of crap latley. All the bad review scores... unless your a kinect game or a muscle bound crap game that gives GS thousands of $$ advertising... have you seen all those banner ads and videos adverts before videos? total bs.... and a 9.5 here... DS4 got robbed... so did Infamous 2, Ratchet and Clank, R3, etc....Pisses me off because people will ignore D4 because of GS. ... How many sys wars commentors say they ignore "Flopps" a lot of them...and it sucks as I want good devs to get money for making hardcore games...especially jrpgs.. I could go on for paragraphs on my view on this but i will stop less I say something I didn't mean to say.Midnightshade29
People on these forums need to get over this rating scale of:

7.0 = Horrible

7.5 = Bad

8.0 = Blah

8.5 = Passable

9.0 = Good

9.5 = Great and worth your money

10.0 = Immaculate

7-10 are great games.

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#228 Bigboi500
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Playing it now. The story is incredibly dull. It's just awful so far.

*somber castlevania chanting music*

"I'm totally in a dream!"

... lengthy pause ...

"She appears to ... think that ... she in a dream.

... pause ...

What a fool."

... lengthy pause ...

"Yes, ... it appears that she thinks she's in a dream."

*insert long and drawn out vaguely philosophical statement*

The story presentation is about as exciting as a textbook.

The game does use HD sprites, which look good, but animations look bad, even for a Disgaea game.

I hope this changes soon, because this could be the biggest disappointment of the year.

hakanakumono

To enjoy a game like Disgaea you have to not take it so seriously and have a sense of humor.

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#229 Midnightshade29
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Well GS review is up for the game and seems like they havent changed one bit in reviewing good anime games.

GS gave it a 7.5 like the 3rd game even tho it improved everything but kept the same gameplay which mostly all games these days do anyways from CoD to even gears.

mmmwksil

"Very similar to earlier entries in the series."

AKA we only let this slide on big budget shooters. Laughable, GS. Simply laughable.

Or any games that pay bucket loads of money for ads on gs videos and banner ads...cough.. gears...cough...
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#230 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Well GS review is up for the game and seems like they havent changed one bit in reviewing good anime games.

GS gave it a 7.5 like the 3rd game even tho it improved everything but kept the same gameplay which mostly all games these days do anyways from CoD to even gears.

Midnightshade29

"Very similar to earlier entries in the series."

AKA we only let this slide on big budget shooters. Laughable, GS. Simply laughable.

Or any games that pay bucket loads of money for ads on gs videos and banner ads...cough.. gears...cough...

And yet look at the score Duke Nukem Forever got (which was advertised on this site for weeks heavily). Let's not start this laughable conspiracy nonsense, game got what GS feel it deserves .
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#232 Midnightshade29
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[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Well GS review is up for the game and seems like they havent changed one bit in reviewing good anime games.

GS gave it a 7.5 like the 3rd game even tho it improved everything but kept the same gameplay which mostly all games these days do anyways from CoD to even gears.

Shinobishyguy

"Very similar to earlier entries in the series."

AKA we only let this slide on big budget shooters. Laughable, GS. Simply laughable.

Pokemon B/W got the same treatment. Downright pathetic if you ask me.

Hell, watch them bend over and give MW3 a 9.0

You know they will... remember ODST and Black Ops.... yeah... you know they will give those games a 9.0 no questions asked and let things slide left and right. An original or niche series they will point out every niggling flaw. Look at dead island review...it was terrible...for such a great game (sure it has some bugs but its fun an immersive and just a great game!!
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#233 Mr_Positive
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[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Well GS review is up for the game and seems like they havent changed one bit in reviewing good anime games.

GS gave it a 7.5 like the 3rd game even tho it improved everything but kept the same gameplay which mostly all games these days do anyways from CoD to even gears.

Midnightshade29

"Very similar to earlier entries in the series."

AKA we only let this slide on big budget shooters. Laughable, GS. Simply laughable.

Or any games that pay bucket loads of money for ads on gs videos and banner ads...cough.. gears...cough...

Or, maybe Gears 3 was good enough to warrant a 9.5? And Disgaea 4 looks quite great. I'm sure the fans will enjoy it. :)
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#234 ianuilliam
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[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"][QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

"Very similar to earlier entries in the series."

AKA we only let this slide on big budget shooters. Laughable, GS. Simply laughable.

Ravensmash

Or any games that pay bucket loads of money for ads on gs videos and banner ads...cough.. gears...cough...

And yet look at the score Duke Nukem Forever got (which was advertised on this site for weeks heavily). Let's not start this laughable conspiracy nonsense, game got what GS feel it deserves .

... They're talking about penalizing a game for being more of the same, and how certain games get a pass on that. The Duke's got nothing to do with that. He didn't get demeritted for being more of the same. I mean, that'd be rediculous. The last new Duke game was what, 2 generations ago?

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#235 Bigboi500
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There seems to be a double standard in GS reviews. Shooters: more of the same but I don't care because I like it, it's awesome, score it high anyway. RPGs: more of the same, the series is stale, penalize it.

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#236 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Playing it now. The story is incredibly dull. It's just awful so far.

*somber castlevania chanting music*

"I'm totally in a dream!"

... lengthy pause ...

"She appears to ... think that ... she in a dream.

... pause ...

What a fool."

... lengthy pause ...

"Yes, ... it appears that she thinks she's in a dream."

*insert long and drawn out vaguely philosophical statement*

The story presentation is about as exciting as a textbook.

The game does use HD sprites, which look good, but animations look bad, even for a Disgaea game.

I hope this changes soon, because this could be the biggest disappointment of the year.

Bigboi500

To enjoy a game like Disgaea you have to not take it so seriously and have a sense of humor.

Yes I know, but what I'm saying is the humor is an utter disaster so far.

I expected the game to feel silly, outrageous, and charming like previous titles.

The words I would use to describe what I've seen so far is ... "dull and slow."

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#237 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

To enjoy a game like Disgaea you have to not take it so seriously and have a sense of humor.

hakanakumono

Yes I know, but what I'm saying is the humor is an utter disaster so far.

I expected the game to feel silly, outrageous, and charming like previous titles.

The words I would use to describe what I've seen so far is ... "dull and slow."

I think it's atleast better than Disgaea 3 in both characters and story. I couldn't stand the outrageous over-dramatic voice of Mao and the high pitched cutesy voice and character of Raspberyl.

And Mao's motivation for revenge of going after his father for destroying his video game saves was downright ridiculous.

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#238 Ravensmash
Member since 2010 • 13862 Posts

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="Midnightshade29"] Or any games that pay bucket loads of money for ads on gs videos and banner ads...cough.. gears...cough...ianuilliam

And yet look at the score Duke Nukem Forever got (which was advertised on this site for weeks heavily). Let's not start this laughable conspiracy nonsense, game got what GS feel it deserves .

... They're talking about penalizing a game for being more of the same, and how certain games get a pass on that. The Duke's got nothing to do with that. He didn't get demeritted for being more of the same. I mean, that'd be rediculous. The last new Duke game was what, 2 generations ago?

It was also implied that the only reason they get good scores is because they are advertised heavily on the site. And I'm showing you proof that it's not always the case.
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#239 hakanakumono
Member since 2008 • 27455 Posts

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

To enjoy a game like Disgaea you have to not take it so seriously and have a sense of humor.

Bigboi500

Yes I know, but what I'm saying is the humor is an utter disaster so far.

I expected the game to feel silly, outrageous, and charming like previous titles.

The words I would use to describe what I've seen so far is ... "dull and slow."

I think it's atleast better than Disgaea 3 in both characters and story. I couldn't stand the outrageous over-dramatic voice of Mao and the high pitched cutesy voice and character of Raspberyl.

And Mao's motivation for revenge of going after his father for destroying his video game saves was downright ridiculous.

I didn't play 3, but this one is a big disappointment for me. Most of the motivation for Grinding in Disgaea comes from just how charming the characters are for me. Who came up with Fenrich? Why? The story doesn't seem like it's trying. Graphically, I even prefer the 1st two to this one as well. I just have to hope that it gets better.

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#240 ianuilliam
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[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] And yet look at the score Duke Nukem Forever got (which was advertised on this site for weeks heavily). Let's not start this laughable conspiracy nonsense, game got what GS feel it deserves .Ravensmash

... They're talking about penalizing a game for being more of the same, and how certain games get a pass on that. The Duke's got nothing to do with that. He didn't get demeritted for being more of the same. I mean, that'd be rediculous. The last new Duke game was what, 2 generations ago?

It was also implied that the only reason they get good scores is because they are advertised heavily on the site. And I'm showing you proof that it's not always the case.

I don't think the complaint is that the advertised games get a high score as much as that it appears that most games get a lower score due to being "more of the same" but those highly advertised ones don't even have it mentioned in their reviews.

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#241 Xaero_Gravity
Member since 2011 • 9856 Posts

All the bad review scores... unless your a kinect game or a muscle bound crap game that gives GS thousands of $$ advertising....

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