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#1 Set_Free
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Is it me or does it seem like 360 owners really Want the ps3 to fail. i own both systems and i dont want either to fail, most gamers act as if you have to pick a side in this "console war".... I actually was on a forum yesterday a saw a guy saying uncharted looked like crap!!!! No one in their right mind can tell me that with a straight face...But he represents a whole bunch of people who talk about something that they know nothing about... You dont see as many ps3 owners bashing the 360 on forums when as an owner of one i know things that can be said about the 360 that aren't so good... Its not MS fought but it makes me spend most of my time defending the PS3 when i shouldn't have to... Like the gut stated above 360 didn't have the best launch either...If not for NBA 2k6 i would have been playing GUN or Perfect Dark Zero for two months. An remember 360 didn't have ay competition at the time... PS3 iw going to be fine if not better than the 360 in a year...I can give you ten or more reasons why... Lair ,Heavenly sword, MGS4, GT5, Tekken 6, Warhawk, Uncharted, Killzone 2, FF13, Next Gen Socom, NGS, not to mention multi platform games PS3 owners will have to play like Graw 2, GTA4, RBW 6 Vegas, Stranglehold, ect. ect.

Throw in the edition of the PS Home and you have a wonderful system!!!!!!!  

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#2 D0013ER
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Here's a 360 owner that doesn't want the PS3 to fail.  Competition is good.
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#3 kcpp2b
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Here's a 360 owner that doesn't want the PS3 to fail. Competition is good.D0013ER

Here's the thing for the TC, it's not Owners that want it to fail it is fanboys. Saying owners assumes anyone who buys one wants it to fail which is ridiculous. Obviously fanboys want it to fail, that's what a fanboy is all about, hatred and blind support for their own console / system 

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#5 Trading_Zoner
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yes and no.

yes becuase that means all of ps3s 3rd party exclusives would come to 360.

No becuase sony's first party games are great and  there is a possibilty that they may not go 3rd party if ps3 fails. Also becuase competition is good for the industry.

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#6 Broman6015
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...Competition is good.D0013ER

QFT 

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#7 munsoned
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im not a owner yet but im getting a 360 be4 a ps3...no i dont want them to fail.. i want them to do a price cut on the ps3 to force ms to do a price drop on the 360:D
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#8 Dire_Weasel
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Have you been paying attention to System Wars? Xbox fanboys lie in bed awake at night praying to Bill Gates in hopes that both Sony and Nintendo will go out of business.
Then they wake up, google for any negative news about Sony, and come post it here.
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#9 D0013ER
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You dont see as many ps3 owners bashing the 360 on forums Set_Free

Off topic, but I'm not sure how you couldn't see them...

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#10 kcpp2b
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yes and no.

yes becuase that means all of ps3s 3rd party exclusives would come to 360.

No becuase sony's first party games are great and there is a possibilty that they may not go 3rd party if ps3 fails. Also becuase competition is good for the industry.

Trading_Zoner

Yeah competition is good for business.

I recall when the WWE (or WWF at the time) bought the WCW and I guess took over everything with the ECW too, it ruined business and everything took a nose dive. I have stopped watching since.  

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#11 kcpp2b
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[QUOTE="Set_Free"] You dont see as many ps3 owners bashing the 360 on forums D0013ER

Off topic, but I'm not sure how you couldn't see them...

Yeah, I see this thread is very unbias lol 

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#12 WhoaNellie32
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Heres an owner that does want Sony to fail. Why? Because that would leave the door wide open for Sega to return and reclaim their rightful throne competing head to head with Nintendo (or leave the door open for Apple [shudder]). Sega would focus on games, not pushing needless non-gaming related technology (not to mention not charge $600). Once that happens I'll want Microsft to fail....if I still have energy....but I probably won't...cause seeing Sega back would make me too happy to care...

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Is it me or does it seem like 360 owners really Want the ps3 to fail. i own both systems and i dont want either to fail, most gamers act as if you have to pick a side in this "console war".... I actually was on a forum yesterday a saw a guy saying uncharted looked like crap!!!! No one in their right mind can tell me that with a straight face...But he represents a whole bunch of people who talk about something that they know nothing about... You dont see as many ps3 owners bashing the 360 on forums when as an owner of one i know things that can be said about the 360 that aren't so good... Its not MS fought but it makes me spend most of my time defending the PS3 when i shouldn't have to... Like the gut stated above 360 didn't have the best launch either...If not for NBA 2k6 i would have been playing GUN or Perfect Dark Zero for two months. An remember 360 didn't have ay competition at the time... PS3 iw going to be fine if not better than the 360 in a year...I can give you ten or more reasons why... Lair ,Heavenly sword, MGS4, GT5, Tekken 6, Warhawk, Uncharted, Killzone 2, FF13, Next Gen Socom, NGS, not to mention multi platform games PS3 owners will have to play like Graw 2, GTA4, RBW 6 Vegas, Stranglehold, ect. ect.

Throw in the edition of the PS Home and you have a wonderful system!!!!!!!  

Set_Free
No I do not want the PS3 to fail, but Sony needs to learn a lesson, their domination of the last 2 generations has created the type of arrogance where they think a $600 console is going to sell...nope..this industry does not need those kind of prices.  Personally I want all 3 players (Sony, Ms, and Ninty) to share the pie equally, its best for all gamers this way.
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#14 WilliamRLBaker
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No I own both sytems too and here i am branded a lemming, But thats only cause sony has enough fans defending it, and I take part in the defence of the xbox system as a whole.

thought I own all 3 systems this gen and enjoy them for the most part, I dont wanna see sony fail cause it would disrupt my gaming collection!
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#15 mercclass
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Competition FTW.

 

Having Sony without MS or Nintendo or any other scenario is bad for everyone.  What would really be even better is if some other form of home entertainment would also crop up to provide competition to the games industry in general.  They would be forced to make the games even more immersive.

 

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#16 Set_Free
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[QUOTE="D0013ER"]

[QUOTE="Set_Free"] You dont see as many ps3 owners bashing the 360 on forums kcpp2b

Off topic, but I'm not sure how you couldn't see them...

Yeah, I see this thread is very unbias lol 

as a matter of fact it is unbias... I OWN A 360... Notice I said I dont see AS MANY
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#17 rwbojorquez
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NO and to keep it alive i'll buy a ps3 in 4 years
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#18 Broman6015
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[QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]

yes and no.

yes becuase that means all of ps3s 3rd party exclusives would come to 360.

No becuase sony's first party games are great and there is a possibilty that they may not go 3rd party if ps3 fails. Also becuase competition is good for the industry.

kcpp2b

Yeah competition is good for business.

I recall when the WWE (or WWF at the time) bought the WCW and I guess took over everything with the ECW too, it ruined business and everything took a nose dive. I have stopped watching since.

 

yea WWE went completely downhill from there...and likewise i have not watched nearly as much since that happened  

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#19 MythManiac
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I don't want Sony to fail particularly. I want them to get some humble pie. If failing this gen will do it, then I'll be satisfied. If they get humility another way, I'll be happy as well. I was quite glad when Nintendo lost with the N64, even though I really loved that system. 

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#20 D0013ER
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[QUOTE="kcpp2b"][QUOTE="D0013ER"]

[QUOTE="Set_Free"] You dont see as many ps3 owners bashing the 360 on forums Set_Free

Off topic, but I'm not sure how you couldn't see them...

Yeah, I see this thread is very unbias lol

as a matter of fact it is unbias... I OWN A 360... Notice I said I dont see AS MANY

Fair enough, but from my experience I'd say the fanboy population is fairly evenly divided.  You don't see many cows on right now because of the recent sales charts and the subsequent internet assplosion.  But believe me, they're here, and they can be very, very loud.

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#21 kcpp2b
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[QUOTE="kcpp2b"][QUOTE="D0013ER"]

[QUOTE="Set_Free"] You dont see as many ps3 owners bashing the 360 on forums Set_Free

Off topic, but I'm not sure how you couldn't see them...

Yeah, I see this thread is very unbias lol

as a matter of fact it is unbias... I OWN A 360... Notice I said I dont see AS MANY

Both Cows and Lemmings go to war with each other heavily. Trying to say one does more then another is just apples and oranges. Unless you have done some kind of count of who bashes who more throughout the history of SW there's no point in thinking one does more then another. Fanboys are fanboys and you act as if Lemmings are the worst or different. All fanboys do the same things and are the same way.

And ur thread title also makes it sound like all 360 owners are fanboys and want a system to fail which is bias.

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#22 tango90101
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um...sure...why not...

we don't need 3 consoles...

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#23 Eltroz
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Man I am sick of hearing that if Sony fails then gaming is done for. Sony is not single handedly keeping gaming going. Even if it did happen there would still be Nintendo and MS. If one company went then I am sure another would pop up maybe the Apple igame or something. I would hate to see Nintendo fall more then Sony since they have done far more for gaming then Sony has. Trust me I would not be to sad to see a company that makes a $600 system then calls Americans cheap because it is not selling well. Also how they try to use PS3 as a trojan horse for Blu-Ray to help out the entertainment part of Sony.
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#24 JDW_games
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Yeah. I'd rather see Microsoft and Nintendo own the market.
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#25 yoyo462001
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yea it seems like they all want it to fail, i dont really want it to fail i just want people to buy the right console, not buying it because of its name PLAYSTATION... or SONY
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#26 davaniius
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A lot of lemmings hate on Sony and the PS3 without even trying out the PS3.As a 360 owner and a new PS3 owner(as from today)I don't think the PS3 will fail.This is one serious mutha.......
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#27 e20Dylan
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lemmings obviously want the ps3 to fail they know there system is getting overshadowed in a couple of months and they are obviously insecure about it. wii owners dont bash the ps3 like the 360 kids do. just fact wii owners are secure
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#28 Mudig
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To be honest, if I wanted the PS3 to fail it would've failed a long time ago. I always get what I want.
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#29 SkyCastleDan
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I own both systems. I don't want Sony to fail cause I like MS better or something. I want them to fail cause their system was a rip-off and has been nothing but empty-promises and delays. X360? What they say is pretty much what you get...so kuddos to them for that.

Want an example? HOW IN GODS NAME DO YOU JUSTIFY DELAYING A GAME ABOUT RUBBER DUCKS FOR 4 WEEKS!!!??? Nuff said.

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#30 D0013ER
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To be honest, if I wanted the PS3 to fail it would've failed a long time ago. I always get what I want.Mudig

...Chuck Norris?? 

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#31 lockjaw333
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Anyone who legitimately wants to see either system outright fail is nuts. Competition is good in any industry, and competition is what has catapulted gaming into such a glory period. Videogames are big bussiness, and now demand a large chunk of respect in the media entertainment market- no longer are they seen as the odd habit of social outcasts. More competition means more inspiration to make the best games and systems possible, which funnels in more money toward building the gaming industry into the behemoth it is today. I own a Nintendo Wii and an Xbox 360, I've owned the Gamecube, N64, SNES and NES, the PS1 and the PS2, as well as the original Xbox. With each generation games and systems get better and better, and thats definitely a result of competition. My main problem with Sony this generation, like many others, is the arrogance. Videogames are a highly critiqued industry now, and the kind of arrogance Sony has brought to the table is rediculous. The price point may not be out of hand for the hardware they offer, but the "cheap" label in peoples' faces who live paycheck to paycheck, like the majority of gamers, is a little hard to swallow. Also, there is one overwhelmingly factor here: Videogames are made to play GAMES! Unfortunately for Sony, they are severely lacking right now in that area. Of course I want great games to come out for the PS3, because I'd love to justify owning one some day, but you cannot tell me with 100% sincerity that its worth the $600 dollar pricetag right now. THIS is why people aren't buying the system right now. Competition is what drives the release of the GRAWs, the Gears of Wars, the MGS4s, the Marios, the Halos...everything. You might think these people are actually getting monetary benefit from devoting their life's breath to defending their console of choice.
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#32 MacaroniMoses
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I don't want them to fail but I do think they need to eat a big 'ol piece of Humble Pie.
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#33 themyth01
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 More games for the xbox360...
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#34 MyopicCanadian
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I'm not certain.... on one hand, competition is great - it adds stability to the market and helps keep prices down.  But on the other hand, if the PS3 were to fail, the 360 would reap all of its juicy exclusives.
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#35 masterdeviance
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I'm all for competition, but I have no qualms about feeling good that a 600 dollar console is failing. Any company that puts out a console with a price that high and expects instant consumer gratification needs to have a message sent to them. The fact is, the PS3 ought to have poor sales right now until Sony finally decides to lower the price. Gamers want to buy gaming consoles, not Blu-ray trojan horses.
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#36 3picuri3
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im a ps3 owner and at this point i kinda want it to fail, lol. no games + long wait = pissed consumer.

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#37 Orlandun
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No I do not want the PS3 to fail, but Sony needs to learn a lesson, their domination of the last 2 generations has created the type of arrogance where they think a $600 console is going to sell...nope..this industry does not need those kind of prices. Personally I want all 3 players (Sony, Ms, and Ninty) to share the pie equally, its best for all gamers this way.Danthegamingman

 

Seems like I'm seeing alot of posts like this where they say they dont want it to fail, then bash it  like they do. Everyone ehre keeps trying to justify their hate towards the system and reword it into something else. I know that not every 360 own wants it to fail but I would say that most of the ones I see on this forum do as well as many of the haters I meet on teh street.. I as an owner of both dont want either to fail but I do want a reason for owning both of the big ones (no wii) and I feel that the two companies have delivered and I will be happy with both systems. On top of the games I really like some of those exatra features I have on my PS3 like the easier to use slideshow features it provides as well as the blue ray. I believe that a larger format is good for games (not just blue ray itself) and I rent HD movies from netflix to get full use out of my hdtv.

 

Basically I think no one has the right to hate on either system and should just be happy for what the other systems have. SAdly this will never happen 

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#38 Lazy_Boy88
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Best possible scenario this gen for gamers no matter who is for Sony to win by a significant margin over 360. The sole reason Xbox has been so great for its fanbase is because MS hemorages money buying out games and on the hardware. MS wins and you pay a lot more for lackluster crap...... the add-ons and microtransactions are nothing compared to what they'll do with dominance. Sony wins and MS keeps spending money to give the lemmings exactly what they want and everyone ends up happy.
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#39 D0013ER
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The only justifiable reason I could possibly come up with for wanting the PS3 to "fail" would be the likely repercussions if it were a smashing success.  If the PS3 comes out on top, then I don't think MS or Nintendo would have any qualms or reservations about releasing a $600+ console next gen, and Sony... maybe $800 next time?  Why not, it worked before...

I don't want to be priced out of this hobby. 

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#40 3picuri3
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a great thing about Sony failing is that there would only be one console for pretty games, and one for fun games -- so the average consumer could enjoy everything without buying a 700$CDN paperweight (that is magnificent at collecting dust by the way -- wonder if i could start a dust selling business with my PS3...hmmm).
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#41 terrellpakeman
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I'll voice my true feelings and say that I WANT THE PS3 TO FAIL. Sony turned me into a 360 fanboy with their overpromise and underdeliver routine. I disagree with the competition is good stuff. This is far from perfect competition. This is a gaming oligopoly (Econ majors correct me). Sony, MS and Nintendo should combine like Voltron and create a new gaming world order. In my version of the future. There should be the PC versus the PWNbox.
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#42 masterdeviance
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Alot of people don't understand that it's to the consumer's benefit if the PS3 at its currect price point fails. If it became a runaway success like the PS2 last gen or the Wii this gen, you could guarantee console prices averaging out to 600 dollars a pop. Talk about pricing gamers out...
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#43 Eltroz
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I have no problems saying I want the PS3 to fail. I do not want Sony as a company to fail just the PS3. I do not think PS3 will be canceled but I would like to see them come last.

1- $600 system is just to much. I would hate to see if they won then every system will be at least $500 including Nintendos

2- Comments like calling Americans cheap,or people should work harder to buy their system, or PS3 would sell with no games( that is cocky and as we can see just wrong), and other statements like these from Sony.

3-The trojan horse Blu-Ray it is just to help out other areas of Sony. Meanwhile PS3 users still believe when Sony says it is needed for gameing and not just to push the Blu-ray movie discs.

4-How Sony has lied many times for example saying Killzone was all gameplay when it was ofcourse CG.

Sony did not invent gaming even though cows like to act like they did. Nintendo has been doing this far longer. If any of the 3 main systems left gaming another would take its place. Apple igame or maybe Sega or Atari would have another try at it. Heck maybe Gateway or Dell would try a console.

 

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#44 alex1889
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why doesd nobody assume we just enjoy argueing?
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#45 Idonomeus
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No way. Development for the high end consoles costs a lot of money and if the PS3 doesn't sell well then there is less of a market for 3rd party developers. I don't care if games are multiplat as long as they are good quality and their graphics engines are built around PS3/360 level hardware.
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#46 Silvereign
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Have you been paying attention to System Wars? Xbox fanboys lie in bed awake at night praying to Bill Gates in hopes that both Sony and Nintendo will go out of business.
Then they wake up, google for any negative news about Sony, and come post it here.Dire_Weasel

If thats true thats kind of disturbing...:? 

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#47 GameGooN73
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I want the PS3 to fail, but my 360 has nothing to do with that desire.

 

I want it to fail because:

1.  I don't want the industry to think that trojaning an agenda apart from videogames e.g. a movie format at the expense of the gamer is a good idea.

 2.  I don't want future console makers to be rewarded for smoke and mirrors marketing, CGI and flat-out lies.

3.  I don't want future videogame CEO's to be complete lunatics.

4.  I don't want future videogame consoles to think that gamers will pay any price for their machines.

5.  I don't want future videogame makers to continue to make the process of game development a difficult one.

Basically, the vast majority of the decisions that Sony made with this console were not good for the gamer or the industry.  It's lackluster sales, mass exodus of exclusives and it's overall tipping on the edge of failure is a great message to the future Sony consoles, the future MS consoles, Nintendo and whoever else jumps in this ring.

If the PS3's failure continues, we can hope to see a gaming future where they listen more to what the gamer wants instead of telling them what they want.  We will see console makers focus on VIDEOGAMING and not movies.  We will see companies realize that price DOES matter.  We will see console makers use proven technology.  We will see console makers that develop with the developer in mind.

If the PS3 succeeds then I hate to see the lessons learned by the industry if Sony's horrible decisions were rewarded.

I have my beef with Microsoft too, mostly in their quality department, however, they made decisions that were ultimately good for gaming and the gamer while Nintendo has cleverly discovered a way to expand an already huge market to non-gamers.

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#48 darthogre
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yes, some twisted satisfaction I guess.  That and that means they probably get all the remaining exclusives SOE has.
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[QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"]Have you been paying attention to System Wars? Xbox fanboys lie in bed awake at night praying to Bill Gates in hopes that both Sony and Nintendo will go out of business.
Then they wake up, google for any negative news about Sony, and come post it here.Silvereign

If thats true thats kind of disturbing...:? 

naw...he's just bitter the ps3 is getting killed by the 360 after all his promises of how the ps3 would crush the 360...:roll:

it never occurred to him that the bad ps3 news wouldn't be so easy to find if there wasn't so much bad news with the ps3...;)

but there is nothign but bad news for the ps3 and here we are...

payback can be painful for some...:D

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Arche_Renagade04, red_cloak, hd28guy_basic, and Ranik_ do.