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#1 SolidGame_basic
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With the NX coming out next year and the Wii U being extremely short of games - do Nintendo fans forgive Nintendo for this miss-step? These are the fans who supported the console from the beginning and actively bought games for it. Sony gets a lot of crap for abandoning the Vita, but the Vita still has a ton more games to play. Will you still support Nintendo after this? Buy the NX at launch? Share your thoughts in the comments below.

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#2 DocSanchez
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They never held them to account in the first place. Nintendo can pull any old shit and few will hold them accountable.

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#3 Bigboi500
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Yeah but that's also true of all systems' fans. Cows act like the shitty PS4 exclusives are better than they really are. Lemmings act like there's no difference in multi plats quality between PS4 and XB1. Hermits act like there's no inconvenience at all in building and maintaining high end PCs.

I have no intention of buying NX, or any other system for that matter, at launch.

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#4 FoxbatAlpha
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People can't get over Microsofts launch policies so I'm going to guess no. We are all the same people aren't we?

Then again Sony fans forgive everything. Hmm. Dunno.

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#5 freedomfreak
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Nintendo fans are amongst the most apologetic out there. They don't care.

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#6 Cloud_imperium
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People will buy the system if it's good. At the end of the day, what matters are games.

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#7 sailor232
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There's only so much crap I can take from Nintendo. I'm at the end of my patience. I'll wait a whole year or two with the NX to see if it's another WiiU scenario.

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#8 aroxx_ab
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Wii was bad, WiiU is even worse so nah, but "forgive" is maybe not word for it. More like i dont trust them (in deliver games i want) anymore.

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#9 bunchanumbers
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Forgive them for what? I got tons of awesome games because of Nintendo. And almost all of them exclusive. My collection will most likely end up being collectors items years down the road like my Gamecube collection and its all thanks to Nintendo. I look forward to NX and will most likely be there day 1.

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#10 Elaisse
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I have no idea what the OP asking. I am just a gamer I buy systems if they have software I want to play.

So far I am very happy with my Wii U it has great games.

I regret buying my PS4 because the first party games I bought for it besides bloodborne blow.

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#11 stuff238
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Nintendo fanboys are delusional and will always buy nintendos products no matter how terrible they are. Nintendo fans aren't real gamers. You can't be a real gamer and only own a nintendo console. There is no way a real gamer would be satisfied with playing 1 game every 6 months because of massive game droughts.

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#12 A-new-Guardian
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Never buying a Nintendo console on launch after the WiiU.

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#13 AzatiS
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@SolidGame_basic said:

With the NX coming out next year and the Wii U being extremely short of games - do Nintendo fans forgive Nintendo for this miss-step? These are the fans who supported the console from the beginning and actively bought games for it. Sony gets a lot of crap for abandoning the Vita, but the Vita still has a ton more games to play. Will you still support Nintendo after this? Buy the NX at launch? Share your thoughts in the comments below.

Sadly they do. They do just because of 3-4 great games each generation ...

For example i was telling sheep to NOT get so cocky in 2014 , in GS as well , and calling other platforms names because might backfire in the future like it did with Wii. And here we are a year later ... Wii U being in a pathetic state after an amazing 2014 , majority of sheep playing on other platforms that they were laughing about than the one were praising so hard a year back , Wii U is heading to its official death and ...voila.

All in all ... if someone should blame Sony for abandoning the Vita ... definitly are not the sheep.

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#14 Pikminmaniac
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Well the Wii U has given me 6 out of the 7 superb games to come out this generation so far. It might take a while for my PS4 to get that kind of content and the PS3 only had about 5 games at that level in its entire lifetime so I'm OK with it.

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#15 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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It's a company. I don't treat a company like a person, I don't get mad or forgive companies. I buy their products when I feel they are worth buying. I bought a Wii U because I felt it was worth it. I bought the 3DS because I felt it was worth it. I bought the PS4 and PS Vita because I felt those were worth it. If I feel the NX is worth it, I will buy it too. It's as simple as that.

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#16 zassimick  Moderator
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Never forgive. Never forget.

I will be keeping an eye out on the NX. I've greatly enjoyed the games on my WiiU and I'm still missing some of them; I've been happy with the console.

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#17  Edited By deactivated-5d1e44cf96229
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Considering that I'm enjoying the Wii U much more than I ever did the Wii and that I've received more enjoyment out of my Wii U than I have my Xbox One and Playstation 4 combined thus far, I'm not sure what I have to forgive them for.

The Wii U has faults, like all the systems do, but I knew those faults were going to exist when I bought the system, there were no surprises. I never expected the Wii U to receive many 3rd party games and I'm fine with that because I would not buy them on my Wii U anyway as I have other consoles for 3rd party games. I also knew that the Wii U had weak hardware and that Nintendo was going to continue to deliver a crappy online service, and though I wish the Wii U was more powerful and had a better online service, I knew as long as Nintendo delivered great games that I couldn't get anywhere else, I was going to get enjoyment out of the system.

And Nintendo did not disappoint when it came to delivering great games. If I had to make a list of the top 10 games of this generation thus far, at least half of the games on the list would be Wii U exclusives. I often see people complain that the games this generation have disappointed thus far and whenever I see that, I immediately know that they are PS4 and/or Xbox One owners that do not own a Wii U. Wii U owners may have other complaints, but you will never see a Wii U owner say that the games on the Wii U have disappointed because while most of the big releases for Xbox One and PS4 have disappointed thus far, the Wii U has a library of super fun games and there big releases have not disappointed.

I think that the Wii U will end of up having a legacy similar to the Dreamcast in that it was under-appreciated, ignored for the hype of the more powerful consoles, and sold poorly during it's life, but eventually people will discover the great games that the Wii U has and it will be looked back upon as a cult classic.

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#18 m_machine024
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Hmm if a system has games I want to play, I'll get it. SImple. Not everyone like the same games. An other simple thing to understand. About the NX, I will buy one at launch only if the launch titles and price are worth it. Again simple. People here can't understand simple stuff apparently.

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#19 nintendoboy16
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Some fans (both tight and loose terms) forgive them about as much as victims of crimes forgive criminals or people forgive politicians (although game forums make gamers no more political than company heads on many subjects).

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#20 drummerdave9099
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Nintendo made some of the best games ever from the 80's to the 00's, that's what I will always look at them for, nothing to really forgive them for, they're just not doing it anymore.

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#21 PrincessGomez92
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@freedomfreak said:

Nintendo fans are amongst the most apologetic out there. They don't care.

Lol so true.

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#22 hiphops_savior
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I would love them to revise their YouTube policy and their region locking. Third party is beyond their control, but it did force them to release games like Chibi platformers and TriForce Adventures.

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they are sheep for a reason you know.

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#24 foxhound_fox
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@SolidGame_basic said:

Wii U being extremely short of games

By having more high quality exclusives than either the XB1 or PS4.

@charizard1605 said:

It's a company. I don't treat a company like a person, I don't get mad or forgive companies. I buy their products when I feel they are worth buying. I bought a Wii U because I felt it was worth it.

This. They are a business, and are out to make money. If they keep making games I want to play, they will keep getting my money.

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#25 deactivated-5ac102a4472fe
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Forgive Nintendo? Ok, here's the deal. With the Wii U Nintendo basicly told us "we present this console, to play out games" and the fans said "this and that could be cool" Ironically they listened. The new fatal frame sounds awesome, we got Zombi U (was better then it had any right to be), we got some pretty darn good Nintendo games tbh. Was it a powerful console? Nope, but that Nintendo did not promise. Did It crash and burn, yup. but it more or less delivered what it promised.

In comparison MS promised us the power of the cloud, 2 years in and no cloud power in sight, they promised us games and only really just now are they coming along (amongst failures that are inexcusable).

Sony Promised us great games, and told us to "just hang on, they will be there soon" ever since launch and we got nothing. Every year they bring more promises, and frankly there is nothing to show for it. What few games they delivered have all been pretty freaking underwhelming (bar Blood Borne and Resogun).

Tell me TC even IF we were to treat a corp. Like a person, does it sound to you like Nintendo screwed up the most?

So far this gen only 3rd party have not screwed up, which says a whole lot. I hardly think Nintendo needs forgiving. So far this gen seems to have made it clear: PC is the best bet.

In short: I see no reason why Nintendo should need to be forgiven.

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#26 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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Forgive them for making the only console worth onwning if you have a PC?

wut...

Don't care if the next system comes out next year, as long as it has backwards compatibility for the Wii U games... unlike said other consoles.

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#27 Chutebox
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Nothing to forgive.

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#28 EG101
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@Chutebox said:

Nothing to forgive.

This^^^

Don't like it don't buy it. It's not like Big N ran over your Dog or something. Everyone knew the Wii U was under powered before release and releasing another console to regain interest in your brand is normal in this industry. Also if Dev kits are going out now that probably means we won't see another Nintendo console until 2017 which means the Wii U was a 5 year console which is normal in console life spans. The Only thing I want from Nintendo's new console is a real leap in tech. Should be at least 5 TF's of performance with a descent CPU. If Nintendo gives us another joke of a console around the 2 TF mark I'm going to be disappointed.

The only thing worse than this is people holding grudges against M.S. for something they never actually did. Sure M.S. thought they could do the always on line DRM thing but when M.S. saw the backlash they backed out and when Mattrick was fired Phil realized M.S.'s Xbox division had lost sight of what was most important, Customer Satisfaction.

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#29 RTUUMM
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Please Understand.

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#30  Edited By lamprey263
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I'm gonna be really pissed when Zelda for Wii U becomes an NX launch title, but I can't say I didn't see it coming. At very least it will be on Wii U but I'm sure if they design it around NX architecture it's not going to feel like it was designed for Wii U. No I will not buy an NX at launch. My next big console purchase next year is a PS4. Unless they say that Persona 5 is going to NX as well as PS4... well, that might give me pause to reconsider.

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#31  Edited By raugutcon
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Forgive them for what ?

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#32 supermeatman
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Wii U was such a dud of a system in the grand scheme of things.

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#33 onesiphorus  Online
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This is not Fanboy Wars.

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#34 intotheminx
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I haven't enjoyed a Nintendo system since the Game Cube. Hopefully, the NX has good 3rd party support and a proper controller out of the box.

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#35 Mr_Huggles_dog
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It's not that I forgive them or not...my tastes have changed and that's not their fault.

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#36 osan0
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as a few already have mentioned, its not a question of forgiveness. the wiiu has failed because its not an easy to sell systems and doesn't have the games to appeal to a lot of people.

if the NX is appealing and has the games to back it up then itll sell a lot better.

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#37 uninspiredcup  Online
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Nintendo will take it to the next level, gaming will finally be saved.

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#38 ConanTheStoner
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No, Nintendo is a heart crushing homewrecker and I'm done with this emotional roller coaster. I'm going back to Sony if she'll take me back.. though I think MS has always had eyes for me, but then again, she's got a lot of baggage.

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Nah man, I just buy shit I like and don't buy shit I don't like. The Wii U was a bust, yeah. I don't think an extra year or two on the market would change that. And if we're being realistic here, by the time the Wii U fully closes up shop, it will have run a fairly typical console life span.

Anyways, for me it's not about how long a console is on the market, but how many worthwhile exclusives a console gets. And yes, I understand that more time on the market potentially means more good exclusives. In the current situation though? The Wii U already shat on the competition. I primarily game on a PC. I only buy consoles for exclusives. In that sense it's the other consoles that are leaving much more to be desired. And I'm sure they'll catch up eventually, but for now my PS4 is boxed up in a closet and I haven't even found a reason to own an X1.

Am I in a rush to go out and buy the NX at launch? **** NO. Will I buy one if they start releasing some exclusives I really want to play? Yup.

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#39  Edited By deactivated-5f26ef21d6f71
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@storm_of_swords said:

Considering that I'm enjoying the Wii U much more than I ever did the Wii and that I've received more enjoyment out of my Wii U than I have my Xbox One and Playstation 4 combined thus far, I'm not sure what I have to forgive them for.

The Wii U has faults, like all the systems do, but I knew those faults were going to exist when I bought the system, there were no surprises. I never expected the Wii U to receive many 3rd party games and I'm fine with that because I would not buy them on my Wii U anyway as I have other consoles for 3rd party games. I also knew that the Wii U had weak hardware and that Nintendo was going to continue to deliver a crappy online service, and though I wish the Wii U was more powerful and had a better online service, I knew as long as Nintendo delivered great games that I couldn't get anywhere else, I was going to get enjoyment out of the system.

And Nintendo did not disappoint when it came to delivering great games. If I had to make a list of the top 10 games of this generation thus far, at least half of the games on the list would be Wii U exclusives. I often see people complain that the games this generation have disappointed thus far and whenever I see that, I immediately know that they are PS4 and/or Xbox One owners that do not own a Wii U. Wii U owners may have other complaints, but you will never see a Wii U owner say that the games on the Wii U have disappointed because while most of the big releases for Xbox One and PS4 have disappointed thus far, the Wii U has a library of super fun games and there big releases have not disappointed.

I think that the Wii U will end of up having a legacy similar to the Dreamcast in that it was under-appreciated, ignored for the hype of the more powerful consoles, and sold poorly during it's life, but eventually people will discover the great games that the Wii U has and it will be looked back upon as a cult classic.

It's this attitude of complacency that will be/may lead to NX's demise.

And it's seems to be the overall general consensus among most Sheep.

And people wonder why Nintendo consoles suck/Nintendo consoles will never be taken seriously as a 3rd party platform holder/Nintendo console will never achieve a level of greatness like the SNES or even the Gamecube.

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#40  Edited By ConanTheStoner
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@KingsofQueens said:

It's this attitude of complacency that will be/may lead to NX's demise.

And it's seems to be the overall general consensus among most Sheep.

And people wonder why Nintendo consoles suck/Nintendo consoles will never be taken seriously as a 3rd party platform holder/Nintendo console will never achieve a level of greatness like the SNES or even the Gamecube.

It is a fucked attitude, but Nintendo dug that grave years ago. It's going to be a tough one to get out of now.

I have the same attitude towards all consoles. PC gets me most games in better form, so of course I'm not looking to consoles for multiplats. If Nintendo started magically getting 3rd party support on the same level as everyone else, I still wouldn't buy those games for their machine.

Thing is, even if we ignore the PC, the Playstation and Xbox consoles have a shit ton of gamers locked into their brand now. People want to play with their friends, they don't want to abandon their accounts for trophies/achievements, whatever the **** (I never got into that stuff).

Nintendo is fighting an impossible uphill battle at this point. Getting gamers to look at their system as a go to primary platform is kind of an unrealistic expectation.

It's complacent, sure, but it's also just realistic. Two decades of poor choices aren't going to get patched up over night.

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#41 TJDMHEM
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I will still support Nintendo.

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#42  Edited By Wiiboxstation
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All consoles have a life span.

The WII U has an exclusive line up of games like:

New super mario bros U

Pikmin 3

Mario Maker

Mario 3d world

Mario kart 8

Bayonetta 2

Splatoon

Wonderful 101

Donkey Kong tropical freeze

Xenoblade chronicles 8

Smash Bros

So I've already got my moneys worth. Plus I like new consoles and new hardware.

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#43 Wiiboxstation
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@raugutcon:

Well Nintendo didn't have a console with red rings of death aka 360.

Didn't have their customers accounts hacked aka Ps3.

Didn't want to make pre owned games unplayable aka Xbone.

Haven't falsely advertised products like drive club on PlayStation+ or cross play on the Vita.

Sony and Microsoft have a lot more to apologize for than Nintendo ever have.

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#44  Edited By schu
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Nintendo fans have known about their quirks and knew about them when they bought the Wii U. I buy Nintendo consoles because I know for better or worse they will have games that other consoles just will never have.

I have a PC as my primary gaming rig and a Nintendo console as my secondary. I have absolutely 0 desire to own an xb1/ps4. I wouldn't take one for $100 if I couldn't sell it. That is how little value I see in those other consoles.

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#45 so_hai
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The level of disillusion will be reflected in the sales of the next console, and then you'll have your answer.

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#46 Xisiuizado
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@Elaisse:
You should've bought an X1 instead. :D

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#47 MirkoS77
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@aroxx_ab said:

Wii was bad, WiiU is even worse so nah, but "forgive" is maybe not word for it. More like i dont trust them (in deliver games i want) anymore.

Yea I think this is more accurate. Nintendo's lost trust and it will take a while of good performance to begin to regain. Except for those fans that adore whatever Nintendo throws their way, good and bad.

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#48  Edited By LegatoSkyheart
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Nintendo didn't cancel Silent Hills or Megaman Legends 3 or gave us a horrible ending to a near perfect Trilogy.

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#49 Elaisse
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@xisiuizado: That was my thought too.

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#50 DaVillain  Moderator
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Nintendo is a gaming company. There's nothing to forgive them and that goes for MS/Sony since they too are a gaming company. Just make good games that I'm interested and I'll buy it.