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#1 Utensilman
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Once the xbox720 or w/e is released, do you think that sales will be affected by the 360's rrod issues? Even if the system has no initial hardware problems, i believe that it will suffer from their past console mistakes. People don't tend to forget these things afterall.
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I cant believe your even thinking the next Xbox will have RRoD.
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I cant believe your even thinking the next Xbox will have RRoD.AaronHullLfc
Yeah, if MS will do anything next generation, it'll be to make a realible console so they can avoid a billion $ loss.
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[QUOTE="AaronHullLfc"]I cant believe your even thinking the next Xbox will have RRoD.whocares4peace
Yeah, if MS will do anything next generation, it'll be to make a realible console so they can avoid a billion $ loss.

This.

They're not that dumb.

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I think it might put off potential early buyers, but im guessing that they are going to ensure that the design is alot better and once people can confirm that it does not recieve a hardware problem so easily alot more people will buy it.
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#6 killerfist
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new round, new chances

allthough I'm not jumping into the next gen as fast as I did this gen. I think I'll hold back a little longer to see what all three have to offer before buying one.

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#7 Utensilman
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I cant believe your even thinking the next Xbox will have RRoD.AaronHullLfc

no. no. no. I Don't think that the next xbox will have rrod. u missed my point completely.

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#8 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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will no games affect the sales of the PS4?

see what I did there?

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[QUOTE="AaronHullLfc"]I cant believe your even thinking the next Xbox will have RRoD.Utensilman

no. no. no. I Don't think that the next xbox will have rrod. u missed my point completely.

The PS2 had HUGE problems with reliability, did that influence PS3 sales?
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#10 Kez1984
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will no games affect the sales of the PS4?

see what I did there?

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Datz clever.

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#11 charomid
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honestly, the rrod problem is not affecting buyers of the console NOW, so it shouldn't be different when a new xbox comes out. theres approx. 20 mill sold, if it would affect console sales, why have so many still been bought?

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#12 nethernova
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honestly, the rrod problem is not affecting buyers of the console NOW

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Uh, of course it is. It's the only reason for me not to buy one. Probably the new Jasper chipset will change my mind.

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#14 loganh92
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[QUOTE="Utensilman"]

[QUOTE="AaronHullLfc"]I cant believe your even thinking the next Xbox will have RRoD.blue_hazy_basic

no. no. no. I Don't think that the next xbox will have rrod. u missed my point completely.

The PS2 had HUGE problems with reliability, did that influence PS3 sales?

You can't even compare the two, PS2 was not even close to the rate of the RRODbox

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#15 Arclight_Blue
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Utensilman"]

[QUOTE="AaronHullLfc"]I cant believe your even thinking the next Xbox will have RRoD.loganh92

no. no. no. I Don't think that the next xbox will have rrod. u missed my point completely.

The PS2 had HUGE problems with reliability, did that influence PS3 sales?

You can't even compare the two, PS2 was not even close to the rate of the RRODbox

thats okay, at least it isnt the Play-less Station3

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Utensilman"]

[QUOTE="AaronHullLfc"]I cant believe your even thinking the next Xbox will have RRoD.loganh92

no. no. no. I Don't think that the next xbox will have rrod. u missed my point completely.

The PS2 had HUGE problems with reliability, did that influence PS3 sales?

You can't even compare the two, PS2 was not even close to the rate of the RRODbox

Actually it was just as bad. How many people here owned more than 1 PS2. I know I had aleast 3 all together.

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#17 Bubblehash
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I cant believe your even thinking the next Xbox will have RRoD.AaronHullLfc
You clearly missed his point. He isn't saying the next xbox will have RRoD. He is asking if the 360 having RRoD will effect the sales of the next xbox when it first launches.

@TC. You would have to be in denial if you didn't think it would effect it. I own and love my PS3, but I didn't buy it at launch. I wasn't willing to take a chance after having issues with both my PS1 and PS2. So I waited to see if it was going to have issues before buying one.

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#18 REBEL2100x
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Xbox 720 :lol:
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[QUOTE="loganh92"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Utensilman"]

[QUOTE="AaronHullLfc"]I cant believe your even thinking the next Xbox will have RRoD.young_doe

no. no. no. I Don't think that the next xbox will have rrod. u missed my point completely.

The PS2 had HUGE problems with reliability, did that influence PS3 sales?

You can't even compare the two, PS2 was not even close to the rate of the RRODbox

Actually it was just as bad. How many people here owned more than 1 PS2. I know I had aleast 3 all together.

No....It wasn't just as bad. Stop exaggerating. Yea it was a issue, but not on the same level as RRoD. Besides, once your warranty was up on the PS2, all you had to do was open the PS2 and blow it out to fix the DRE. I took mine apart about every 6 months to blow it out. Worked like brand new after each blow out.
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You can't even compare the two, PS2 was not even close to the rate of the RRODbox

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You really can't be that naive.
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#21 ReverseCycology
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Sony learned from their mistake with the PS2 DRE problems and made their PS3s more reliable, so I can't see why Microsoft can't do the same.

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#22 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Utensilman"]

[QUOTE="AaronHullLfc"]I cant believe your even thinking the next Xbox will have RRoD.loganh92

no. no. no. I Don't think that the next xbox will have rrod. u missed my point completely.

The PS2 had HUGE problems with reliability, did that influence PS3 sales?

You can't even compare the two, PS2 was not even close to the rate of the RRODbox

go check the figures
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[QUOTE="young_doe"][QUOTE="loganh92"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Utensilman"]

[QUOTE="AaronHullLfc"]I cant believe your even thinking the next Xbox will have RRoD.Bubblehash

no. no. no. I Don't think that the next xbox will have rrod. u missed my point completely.

The PS2 had HUGE problems with reliability, did that influence PS3 sales?

You can't even compare the two, PS2 was not even close to the rate of the RRODbox

Actually it was just as bad. How many people here owned more than 1 PS2. I know I had aleast 3 all together.

No....It wasn't just as bad. Stop exaggerating. Yea it was a issue, but not on the same level as RRoD. Besides, once your warranty was up on the PS2, all you had to do was open the PS2 and blow it out to fix the DRE. I took mine apart about every 6 months to blow it out. Worked like brand new after each blow out.

RROD was an issue overblown simply because the 360 released first and has better games and performance. Sony fans, being over 100 million stong logically overwhelmed the online gaming community with virtually bogus reports and extreme distortions of facts, citing the findings of a single game store as a universal rate of failure.

The truth is RROD is a Sony fanboy figleaf. I also would not be surprised to learn that Sony paid to have the issue emphasised in strategic places.

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#24 REBEL2100x
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Sony learned from their mistake with the PS2 DRE problems and made their PS3s more reliable, so I can't see why Microsoft can't do the same.

ReverseCycology

PS3's failure rates is 2%. compared to the Box 33%

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I'm waiting a year b4 I get one.
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#26 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Sony learned from their mistake with the PS2 DRE problems and made their PS3s more reliable, so I can't see why Microsoft can't do the same.

REBEL2100x

PS3's failure rates is 2%. compared to the Box 33%

That is such an inflated percentage - only a fool would believe such number.
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#27 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Sony learned from their mistake with the PS2 DRE problems and made their PS3s more reliable, so I can't see why Microsoft can't do the same.

REBEL2100x

PS3's failure rates is 2%. compared to the Box 33%

reliable link to that? cos i can give you a link saying its 16%

I love how in SW one sonyfanboy says something, a couple of others agree, and then its seems to become fact for the bovine nation.

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#28 linkin_guy109
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i hope to god not, ill be super pissed if that happens, ive been able to somewhat tolerate the rrod this gen, but next gen theres no excuse for it, it would be shooting themselves in the foot for there gaming division if they released another unreliable console
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#30 Bubblehash
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[QUOTE="Bubblehash"][QUOTE="young_doe"][QUOTE="loganh92"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

The PS2 had HUGE problems with reliability, did that influence PS3 sales?station124

You can't even compare the two, PS2 was not even close to the rate of the RRODbox

Actually it was just as bad. How many people here owned more than 1 PS2. I know I had aleast 3 all together.

No....It wasn't just as bad. Stop exaggerating. Yea it was a issue, but not on the same level as RRoD. Besides, once your warranty was up on the PS2, all you had to do was open the PS2 and blow it out to fix the DRE. I took mine apart about every 6 months to blow it out. Worked like brand new after each blow out.

RROD was an issue overblown simply because the 360 released first and has better games and performance. Sony fans, being over 100 million stong logically overwhelmed the online gaming community with virtually bogus reports and extreme distortions of facts, citing the findings of a single game store as a universal rate of failure.

The truth is RROD is a Sony fanboy figleaf. I also would not be surprised to learn that Sony paid to have the issue emphasised in strategic places.

Stop trying. Microsoft themselves even admitted it and extended the warranty to three years (but it only covers RROD). After all this, you still try to make excuses. That's just sad, sad I tell ya.
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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Sony learned from their mistake with the PS2 DRE problems and made their PS3s more reliable, so I can't see why Microsoft can't do the same.

REBEL2100x

PS3's failure rates is 2%. compared to the Box 33%

I've had 3 broken PS2s and 0 broken 360s. Your figures are bs and you know it.

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#32 REBEL2100x
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[QUOTE="REBEL2100x"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Sony learned from their mistake with the PS2 DRE problems and made their PS3s more reliable, so I can't see why Microsoft can't do the same.

blue_hazy_basic

PS3's failure rates is 2%. compared to the Box 33%

reliable link to that? cos i can give you a link saying its 16%

I love how in SW one sonyfanboy says something, a couple of others agree, and then its seems to become fact for the bovine nation.

Fine gimmie the link. Besides sooo many sites say its 2% you know.

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[QUOTE="REBEL2100x"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Sony learned from their mistake with the PS2 DRE problems and made their PS3s more reliable, so I can't see why Microsoft can't do the same.

Fayt445

PS3's failure rates is 2%. compared to the Box 33%

I've had 3 broken PS2s and 0 broken 360s. Your figures are bs and you know it.

your figured =/= the worlds figures, ive had 2 broken 360's and 0 broken ps2's, the failure rate is down to 16 percent and not 33 though fyi

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Seeing that RROD hasn't affected the way I think of Microsoft, I don't think it'll affect me of buying the next Xbox. I'll be all over that system.
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#35 Bubblehash
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i hope to god not, ill be super pissed if that happens, ive been able to somewhat tolerate the rrod this gen, but next gen theres no excuse for it, it would be shooting themselves in the foot for there gaming division if they released another unreliable consolelinkin_guy109
Yes folks, we have another one that completely missed the TC's point.
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#36 linkin_guy109
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[QUOTE="REBEL2100x"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Sony learned from their mistake with the PS2 DRE problems and made their PS3s more reliable, so I can't see why Microsoft can't do the same.

blue_hazy_basic

PS3's failure rates is 2%. compared to the Box 33%

reliable link to that? cos i can give you a link saying its 16%

I love how in SW one sonyfanboy says something, a couple of others agree, and then its seems to become fact for the bovine nation.

its a known fact that in the first year of the 360s life the failure rate was 30 percent, but with all of the things that m$ has done with the 360 it has been down to the 16 percent you have a link for

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Stop trying. Microsoft themselves even admitted it and extended the warranty to three years (but it only covers RROD). After all this, you still try to make excuses. That's just sad, sad I tell ya.Bubblehash
Forgetting the difference? Someone had to take Sony to court to admit their problems. And how many years down the line did that happen - how long after the PS2 launched? Give me a break.
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="REBEL2100x"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Sony learned from their mistake with the PS2 DRE problems and made their PS3s more reliable, so I can't see why Microsoft can't do the same.

REBEL2100x

PS3's failure rates is 2%. compared to the Box 33%

reliable link to that? cos i can give you a link saying its 16%

I love how in SW one sonyfanboy says something, a couple of others agree, and then its seems to become fact for the bovine nation.

Fine gimmie the link. Besides sooo many sites say its 2% you know.

16% for the 360 lol

the PS3 is a very reliable machine.

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[QUOTE="REBEL2100x"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Sony learned from their mistake with the PS2 DRE problems and made their PS3s more reliable, so I can't see why Microsoft can't do the same.

blue_hazy_basic

PS3's failure rates is 2%. compared to the Box 33%

reliable link to that? cos i can give you a link saying its 16%

I love how in SW one sonyfanboy says something, a couple of others agree, and then its seems to become fact for the bovine nation.

It's not even 16%.

The trouble with Sony fans is they're bad at math.

They have no comprehension of what one third of twenty million consoles actually is.

Even 16% is wrong.

Also these people need to learn that a snapshot percentage doesn't span the entire life of a product. Such percentages are relevant to times, places and stock numbers.

The true, total failure rate is probably closer to 5%.

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#40 REBEL2100x
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[QUOTE="REBEL2100x"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Sony learned from their mistake with the PS2 DRE problems and made their PS3s more reliable, so I can't see why Microsoft can't do the same.

Fayt445

PS3's failure rates is 2%. compared to the Box 33%

I've had 3 broken PS2s and 0 broken 360s. Your figures are bs and you know it.

If you dont believe me, here. And for me? I had to exchange my boc 3 times because of the RROD. Theres a couple of links but im lazy to find more

http://www.ripten.com/2007/07/03/failure-rate-xbox-360-high-as-33-sony-ps3-less-than-1/

http://www.slashgear.com/chalk-one-up-for-sony-ps3-failure-rate-less-than-1-056079.php

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#41 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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16% for the 360 lol

the PS3 is a very reliable machine.

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It would be if there wasn't an update every ****ing month. My PS3 was bound to break - and sure enough, I ending up getting the DRE problem on the latest update.
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#42 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="REBEL2100x"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Sony learned from their mistake with the PS2 DRE problems and made their PS3s more reliable, so I can't see why Microsoft can't do the same.

linkin_guy109

PS3's failure rates is 2%. compared to the Box 33%

reliable link to that? cos i can give you a link saying its 16%

I love how in SW one sonyfanboy says something, a couple of others agree, and then its seems to become fact for the bovine nation.

its a known fact that in the first year of the 360s life the failure rate was 30 percent, but with all of the things that m$ has done with the 360 it has been down to the 16 percent you have a link for

The first of 360's were a mess, I had an RROD one myself, but many people on this board seem to think that they have maintained that failure rate, which isn't true.
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#43 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

16% for the 360 lol

the PS3 is a very reliable machine.

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It would be if there wasn't an update every ****ing month. My PS3 was bound to break - and sure enough, I ending up getting the DRE problem on the latest update.

Thats a software issue though, not hardware.
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[QUOTE="linkin_guy109"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="REBEL2100x"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Sony learned from their mistake with the PS2 DRE problems and made their PS3s more reliable, so I can't see why Microsoft can't do the same.

blue_hazy_basic

PS3's failure rates is 2%. compared to the Box 33%

reliable link to that? cos i can give you a link saying its 16%

I love how in SW one sonyfanboy says something, a couple of others agree, and then its seems to become fact for the bovine nation.

its a known fact that in the first year of the 360s life the failure rate was 30 percent, but with all of the things that m$ has done with the 360 it has been down to the 16 percent you have a link for

The first of 360's were a mess, I had an RROD one myself, but many people on this board seem to think that they have maintained that failure rate, which isn't true.

indeed, the failure rate is still high compared to a regular console, but its not 30%

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#45 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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If you dont believe me,here. And for me? I had to exchange my boc 3 times because of the RROD. Theres a couple of links but im lazy to find more

http://www.ripten.com/2007/07/03/failure-rate-xbox-360-high-as-33-sony-ps3-less-than-1/

http://www.slashgear.com/chalk-one-up-for-sony-ps3-failure-rate-less-than-1-056079.php

REBEL2100x

"Retailers estimate" Where? Hmm. I estimate that WW3 will start in exactly 3 . . . 2 . . . :roll: Very credible numbers from a site with a lot of credibility.

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#46 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]The first of 360's were a mess, I had an RROD one myself, but many people on this board seem to think that they have maintained that failure rate, which isn't true.linkin_guy109

indeed, the failure rate is still high compared to a regular console, but its not 30%

Yea I think thats spot on. I never said otherwise, however, what I was initially comparing it was the DRE problems which were on a comparable level (if not worse) until they were eventually resolved.
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#47 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="REBEL2100x"]

If you dont believe me,here. And for me? I had to exchange my boc 3 times because of the RROD. Theres a couple of links but im lazy to find more

http://www.ripten.com/2007/07/03/failure-rate-xbox-360-high-as-33-sony-ps3-less-than-1/

http://www.slashgear.com/chalk-one-up-for-sony-ps3-failure-rate-less-than-1-056079.php

Stevo_the_gamer

"Retailers estimate" Where? Hmm. I estimate that WW3 will start in exactly 3 . . . 2 . . . :roll: Very credible numbers from a site with a lot of credibility.

Here's pages full of actual credible and official figures of the 16% rate, rather than year old webpages made of guesses that were provided by REBEL

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGIH_enUS281US282&q=360+failure+rate+16%25

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#48 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

16% for the 360 lol

the PS3 is a very reliable machine.

blue_hazy_basic
It would be if there wasn't an update every ****ing month. My PS3 was bound to break - and sure enough, I ending up getting the DRE problem on the latest update.

Thats a software issue though, not hardware.

True - however, once I buy the new 80GB come September... I'm going to be VERY hesitant on downloading updates.
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

16% for the 360 lol

the PS3 is a very reliable machine.

Stevo_the_gamer

It would be if there wasn't an update every ****ing month. My PS3 was bound to break - and sure enough, I ending up getting the DRE problem on the latest update.

Thats a software issue though, not hardware.

True - however, once I buy the new 80GB come September... I'm going to be VERY hesitant on downloading updates.

little tip, give the update a day or two before downloading it to see if people are having problems with it, unless your really iching to play an online game or download something from the psn then a day or two should be minimal when looking out for your console

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#50 REBEL2100x
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="REBEL2100x"]

If you dont believe me,here. And for me? I had to exchange my boc 3 times because of the RROD. Theres a couple of links but im lazy to find more

http://www.ripten.com/2007/07/03/failure-rate-xbox-360-high-as-33-sony-ps3-less-than-1/

http://www.slashgear.com/chalk-one-up-for-sony-ps3-failure-rate-less-than-1-056079.php

blue_hazy_basic

"Retailers estimate" Where? Hmm. I estimate that WW3 will start in exactly 3 . . . 2 . . . :roll: Very credible numbers from a site with a lot of credibility.

Here's pages full of actual credible and official figures of the 16% rate, rather than year old webpages made of guesses that were provided by REBEL

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGIH_enUS281US282&q=360+failure+rate+16%25

Ok thats good that it decreased. But dont you think that 16% is still alot compared to 2%?