Do you agree that this is the most epic set piece of this generation?

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#1 arkephonic
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3P9Y-at_JI

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#2 tagyhag
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It's nice. Also lol @ "the moment at 6:16? ist the best game moment on this generation!".
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i knew it would be something uncharted just by reading TC's username. and no. i thought it was an incredibly stupid sequence. just going by what i played from UC3, the sinking boat was much more interesting, though still far from "ZOMG SO GOOD BEST THING THE WHOLE GEN".
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#4 madsnakehhh
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It doesn't have a cynical witch figthing God in space with a badass chorus...so no.

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*rewatches* i remember making this comment the first time i watched, and i just made it again: "i love how the plane randomly decides to catch on fire and explode".
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#6 arkephonic
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i knew it would be something uncharted just by reading TC's username. and no. i thought it was an incredibly stupid sequence. just going by what i played from UC3, the sinking boat was much more interesting, though still far from "ZOMG SO GOOD BEST THING THE WHOLE GEN".BrunoBRS

So you agree that Uncharted 3 has the best set piece of this generation?

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#7 goblaa
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I'm getting pretty damn tired of "epic set pieces" in gaming.

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#8 Basinboy
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It was cool, but I still prefer the train sequences from UC2. Can't even begin to narrow down the best setpiece but I still get a kick out of the ending for MW2 (despite the lackluster campaign).

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God of War 3 was pretty amazing. I need to get going on Uncharted 3, haven't even picked it up yet. PS3 = epic setpiece king.
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#10 madsnakehhh
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It's nice. Also lol @ "the moment at 6:16? ist the best game moment on this generation!". tagyhag

:lol:

Wow...someone only has one Game this gen.

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#11 2Chalupas
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I'm getting pretty damn tired of "epic set pieces" in gaming.

goblaa

I'm tired of developers that don't know what they are doing, definitely tired of the generic FPS set pieces (just finished Darkness II, uggggghhhh).

Give me God of War and Uncharted every day though.

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]i knew it would be something uncharted just by reading TC's username. and no. i thought it was an incredibly stupid sequence. just going by what i played from UC3, the sinking boat was much more interesting, though still far from "ZOMG SO GOOD BEST THING THE WHOLE GEN".arkephonic

So you agree that Uncharted 3 has the best set piece of this generation?

"though still far from the best this gen". it's written on the same line. you're not that stupid, hopefully, so i trust you can actually read it.
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#13 arkephonic
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[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]i knew it would be something uncharted just by reading TC's username. and no. i thought it was an incredibly stupid sequence. just going by what i played from UC3, the sinking boat was much more interesting, though still far from "ZOMG SO GOOD BEST THING THE WHOLE GEN".BrunoBRS

So you agree that Uncharted 3 has the best set piece of this generation?

"though still far from the best this gen". it's written on the same line. you're not that stupid, hopefully, so i trust you can actually read it.

Well since you gave all those alternative examples of games that have better set pieces...... LOL!

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inb4lemminghatejustbecauseitsuncharted

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#15 OreoMilkshake
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If you like scripted sequences.
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#16 arkephonic
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God of War 3 was pretty amazing. I need to get going on Uncharted 3, haven't even picked it up yet. PS3 = epic setpiece king.2Chalupas

Yeah, Uncharted 3, Uncharted 2 and God of War 3 are the top 3, IMO.

Here's my favorite set pieces from God of War 3, in order of appearance in game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odoPWh6wS0s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sS6U7pTrvs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7jjsSF9MZU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7pRQu5sPTg

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#17 arkephonic
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If you like scripted sequences.OreoMilkshake

Whether someone likes set pieces or not has no effect on whether or not it's the best set piece of this generation.

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#18 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

So you agree that Uncharted 3 has the best set piece of this generation?

arkephonic

"though still far from the best this gen". it's written on the same line. you're not that stupid, hopefully, so i trust you can actually read it.

Well since you gave all those alternative examples of games that have better set pieces...... LOL!

here's the thing: setpieces are bad by definition. they're annoying, and limiting. they're restrictive. but if you broaden if to "awesome MOMENTS", rather than simply setpieces, then i could provide a crapton of them. to give a sony exclusive an example, the fight against false king allant at the end of boletaria castle in demon's souls is one of my favorite fights in the entire game, because of its pacing. but defeating any boss that was previously giving you trouble in that game far outdoes anything uncharted aims to achieve.
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#19 soulitane
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Most of that looked fairly boring to me, so I'm going to disagree.
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#20 inb4uall
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Most of that looked fairly boring to me, so I'm going to disagree.soulitane
right on cue :P

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#21 soulitane
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[QUOTE="soulitane"]Most of that looked fairly boring to me, so I'm going to disagree.inb4uall

right on cue :P

How so?
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#22 inb4uall
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[QUOTE="inb4uall"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"]Most of that looked fairly boring to me, so I'm going to disagree.soulitane

right on cue :P

How so?

jokingly implying you were a lem because you were one of the first to disagree

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#23 mems_1224
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:lol: knew what it was gonna be when i saw the TC's name
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#24 soulitane
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[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="inb4uall"] right on cue :P

inb4uall

How so?

jokingly implying you were a lem because you were one of the first to disagree

Ohk, one doesn't have to be a lem to think that scene looks dull :P
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#25 Slashless
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It was cool, but I still prefer the train sequences from UC2. Can't even begin to narrow down the best setpiece but I still get a kick out of the ending for MW2 (despite the lackluster campaign).

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#26 brofists
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Absolutely agreed! Controlling Drake as the air plane that I was on, was being ripped apart from the seams during gameplay, coupled with the immediate and fully playable aftermath, was and IS one of the greatest, and most epic moments in video game history IMO To further elaborate : All I can say here is "..................???" Well, I tried to talk, but nothing came out, because my jaw was on the floor after just thinking about that stunning playable sequence in U3. I had to pick it up to finish this sentence about Uncharted 3 haha.
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#27 UnrealLegend
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Eh... no.

When a scene ripped straight from a Bond film is considered "the best thing ever" then there's a big problem.

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#28 inb4uall
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Eh... no.

When a scene ripped straight from a Bond film is considered "the best thing ever" then there's a big problem.

UnrealLegend

u saying bond is bad? >.>

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arkephonic, here's the problem with uncharted: it tries so hard, but so hard to be awesome, that it just becomes banal. that scene didn't make me go "whoa", it made me go "why is the plane suddenly on fire?". that desperate attempt to reach the maximum level of awesomeness backfires, and it becomes boring. shallow gameplay doesn't help.
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#30 arkephonic
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I shoulda asked what set piece is the best if this isn't, because as well all already know.....

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#31 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="UnrealLegend"]

Eh... no.

When a scene ripped straight from a Bond film is considered "the best thing ever" then there's a big problem.

inb4uall

u saying bond is bad? >.>

no, he's saying a poor bond ripoff being considered the best gaming has to offer is bad.
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#32 AmayaPapaya
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Eh, nah I really disagree. It was hyped to be awesome and in the end, wasn't that great. The ship and horse sequence was much better.

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this was my favorite from this gen probably http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u43D3SDUjOU

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#34 arkephonic
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arkephonic, here's the problem with uncharted: it tries so hard, but so hard to be awesome, that it just becomes banal. that scene didn't make me go "whoa", it made me go "why is the plane suddenly on fire?". that desperate attempt to reach the maximum level of awesomeness backfires, and it becomes boring. shallow gameplay doesn't help.BrunoBRS

i thought it was an incredibly stupid sequence. just going by what i played from UC3....BrunoBRS

:lol:

Anyone ever notice how the people with the strongest opinions towards games on SW have never even played the whole game before?

"OH, WELL BASED ON WHAT I SAW AT A FRIEND'S HOUSE"!

"WELL, BASED ON THE DEMO"!

:lol:

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We should all find amazing moments now in gaming and post them. Who's with me? Yes or no?

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And it's not only just that, Uncharted 3 had so many more epic moments and or unbelievable gaming sequences to boot. The forum hate for Uncharted 3 truly is bananas. Every body I know in the REAL WORLD also loved Uncharted 3 like I did! Uncharted 3 is one of my favorite games of all time. F#ck the forum dwelling haters/and are jelly xbots. -I was in control of Drake while the chatuae began to collapse in a stunning spectacle of destruction by fire (awesome fire ember effects) -I was in control of Drake while the cruise ship I was on had begun to be engulfed by the sea in spectacular, and jaw dropping fashion (some of the most beautifully rendered water I've ever seen in a video game coupled with some of the best water physics I've ever seen in a video game) -I was in control of Drake during the breath taking horse back riding sequence (Just a stunning, and breath-taking moment) -I was in control of Drake when the air plane that I was on was being ripped apart from the seams, in what was one of the greatest, and most epic moments in video game history IMO (All I can say here is "..........?" I tried to talk, but nothing came out, because my jaw was on the floor after just thinking about that playable sequence in U3. I had to pick it up to finish this sentence about Uncharted 3 haha) I mean... All those GAMEPLAY sequences would have been another games major cut scene, but in Uncharted , those events/and or playable set piece moments were its actual gameplay. You actually , for the most part, got to play through each sequence in ACTUAL gameplay. And whats even funnier is that a game like Gears of War 3 , which gets hailed for "having gameplay" actually has the same amount of total cut scene time as Uncharted(like already mentioned) Except that Gears could only dream of offering up the cinematic action that Uncharted does.
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#37 MicrosoftRules
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this was my favorite from this gen probably http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u43D3SDUjOU

mems_1224

I loved that one and bonus because that find was an ending (not just a random cool part in the game).

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And it's not only just that, Uncharted 3 had so many more epic moments and or unbelievable gaming sequences to boot. The forum hate for Uncharted 3 truly is bananas. Every body I know in the REAL WORLD also loved Uncharted 3 like I did! Uncharted 3 is one of my favorite games of all time. F#ck the forum haters. -I was in control of Drake while the chatuae began to collapse in a stunning spectacle of destruction by fire (awesome fire ember effects) -I was in control of Drake while the cruise ship I was on had begun to be engulfed by the sea in spectacular, and jaw dropping fashion (some of the most beautifully rendered water I've ever seen in a video game coupled with some of the best water physics I've ever seen in a video game) -I was in control of Drake during the breath taking horse back riding sequence (Just a stunning, and breath-taking moment) -I was in control of Drake when the air plane that I was on was being ripped apart from the seams, in what was one of the greatest, and most epic moments in video game history IMO (All I can say here is "..........?" I tried to talk, but nothing came out, because my jaw was on the floor after just thinking about that playable sequence in U3. I had to pick it up to finish this sentence about Uncharted 3 haha) I mean... All those GAMEPLAY sequences would have been another games major cut scene, but in Uncharted , those events/and or playable set piece moments were its actual gameplay. You actually , for the most part, got to play through each sequence in ACTUAL gameplay. And whats even funnier is that a game like Gears of War 3 , which gets hailed for "having gameplay" actually has the same amount of total cut scene time as Uncharted(like already mentioned) Except that Gears could only dream of offering up the cinematic action that Uncharted does. brofists

The Uncharted game engine, the sheer number of animations and the complexity in which the player can interact with the environment provides pretty much limitless possibilities. I was a day 1 buyer of Drake's Fortune, and the first day I played it and got to the German submarine part, just the way he animates through it and ducks through the doorways is incredible. The traversal and verticality are also amazing, and the way they incorporate things like melee, stealth kills and shooting mechanics with it all is so well done.

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#39 Phazevariance
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I prefer the set pieces in Dead Space 2, like this one with the tormentor:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPPPiaOLe4k

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As far as set pieces go that one is pretty nice... thing is I find the "need" for set pieces in modern games detract from game more often than not. Rather than being used to enhance good gameplay they're typically used to add a sense of excitement to an otherwise bland experience. So obviously I don't care for set pieces and therefore don't find them to be memorable moments. So in an extremely long winded way I'm saying I cant think of a better set piece because I do not care lol.

Truly memorable gaming moments are born out of great game design, not flashy scripted sequences.

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#41 67gt500
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The entire game was really underwhelming from start to finish (especially the lame, disappointing ending) so I would have to say that 'no' this was/is hardly the most epic set piece of this generation...
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Nah, dual scarabs in Halo 3 tops everything.
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[QUOTE="brofists"]And it's not only just that, Uncharted 3 had so many more epic moments and or unbelievable gaming sequences to boot. The forum hate for Uncharted 3 truly is bananas. Every body I know in the REAL WORLD also loved Uncharted 3 like I did! Uncharted 3 is one of my favorite games of all time. F#ck the forum haters. -I was in control of Drake while the chatuae began to collapse in a stunning spectacle of destruction by fire (awesome fire ember effects) -I was in control of Drake while the cruise ship I was on had begun to be engulfed by the sea in spectacular, and jaw dropping fashion (some of the most beautifully rendered water I've ever seen in a video game coupled with some of the best water physics I've ever seen in a video game) -I was in control of Drake during the breath taking horse back riding sequence (Just a stunning, and breath-taking moment) -I was in control of Drake when the air plane that I was on was being ripped apart from the seams, in what was one of the greatest, and most epic moments in video game history IMO (All I can say here is "..........?" I tried to talk, but nothing came out, because my jaw was on the floor after just thinking about that playable sequence in U3. I had to pick it up to finish this sentence about Uncharted 3 haha) I mean... All those GAMEPLAY sequences would have been another games major cut scene, but in Uncharted , those events/and or playable set piece moments were its actual gameplay. You actually , for the most part, got to play through each sequence in ACTUAL gameplay. And whats even funnier is that a game like Gears of War 3 , which gets hailed for "having gameplay" actually has the same amount of total cut scene time as Uncharted(like already mentioned) Except that Gears could only dream of offering up the cinematic action that Uncharted does. arkephonic

The Uncharted game engine, the sheer number of animations and the complexity in which the player can interact with the environment provides pretty much limitless possibilities. I was a day 1 buyer of Drake's Fortune, and the first day I played it and got to the German submarine part, just the way he animates through it and ducks through the doorways is incredible. The traversal and verticality are also amazing, and the way they incorporate things like melee, stealth kills and shooting mechanics with it all is so well done.

The animations are great, they just don't meld well with what's happening. ND needed to to make them connect better. With the Last of Us, though, it seems like they fixed it. For reference, look at Arkham City. Batman has way more animations than Drake, at least when it comes to hand-to-hand combat, and it all flows much better and connects, unlike Uncharted 3.

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As far as set pieces go that one is pretty nice... thing is I find the "need" for set pieces in modern games detract from game more often than not. Rather than being used to enhance good gameplay they're typically used to add a sense of excitement to an otherwise bland experience. So obviously I don't care for set pieces and therefore don't find them to be memorable moments. So in an extremely long winded way I'm saying I cant think of a better set piece because I do not care lol.

Truly memorable gaming moments are born out of great game design, not flashy scripted sequences.

sandbox3d

The way I see it, the alternative to that set piece would be just making it a CGI or realtime cutscene where you set the controller down and watch. Instead, they give you the ability to move around, shoot, take cover, traverse, and do everything else you're able to do. It's not like the entire game is as fast paced and action packed as this particular scene. There's a lot of slow paced segments of the game that focus on the core gameplay mechanics of traversal and third person shooting. At the end of the day, Naughty Dog is trying to tell a story and they're trying to provide some excitement. I commend them for giving the player interactivity during what would normally be cutscenes in any other game with no interactivity whatsoever.

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#46 Giancar
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I liked the MGS4 Microwave set piece more god it was so EPIC/SAD/EMOTIONAL for me this gen :cry:
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#47 Slashless
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[QUOTE="Giancar"]I liked the MGS4 Microwave set piece more god it was so EPIC/SAD/EMOTIONAL for me this gen :cry:

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[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

As far as set pieces go that one is pretty nice... thing is I find the "need" for set pieces in modern games detract from game more often than not. Rather than being used to enhance good gameplay they're typically used to add a sense of excitement to an otherwise bland experience. So obviously I don't care for set pieces and therefore don't find them to be memorable moments. So in an extremely long winded way I'm saying I cant think of a better set piece because I do not care lol.

Truly memorable gaming moments are born out of great game design, not flashy scripted sequences.

arkephonic

The way I see it, the alternative to that set piece would be just making it a CGI or realtime cutscene where you set the controller down and watch. Instead, they give you the ability to move around, shoot, take cover, traverse, and do everything else you're able to do. It's not like the entire game is as fast paced and action packed as this particular scene. There's a lot of slow paced segments of the game that focus on the core gameplay mechanics of traversal and third person shooting. At the end of the day, Naughty Dog is trying to tell a story and they're trying to provide some excitement. I commend them for giving the player interactivity during what would normally be cutscenes in any other game with no interactivity whatsoever.

Oh I agree. Better to have that set piece than have the player kick back for 10-20 minutes not even able to play a CG scene that ate away at the games budget. And I'm not even bashing UC2, its a fine game.

Just throwing in my .02 on set pieces in general and giving you (an overly long winded) reason on why I cant think of another to compare this one to.

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#49 BrunoBRS
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:lol:

Anyone ever notice how the people with the strongest opinions towards games on SW have never even played the whole game before?

"OH, WELL BASED ON WHAT I SAW AT A FRIEND'S HOUSE"!

"WELL, BASED ON THE DEMO"!

:lol:

arkephonic
oh i'm sorry, i didn't know playing through hours of the game invalidated it if you weren't playing yourself, at home. i went through all of the pirate section and the plane section, and i've played through all of uncharted 2 to know that UC3's gameplay won't improve past what i played. there's a reason i didn't play UC3 through. i couldn't stand it. if people consider UC2 better, than good god keep UC3 away from me.