Do you feel you have "outgrown" consoles?

Nope still enjoying my consoles, nothing wrong with them, just like there's nothing wrong with my PC.

Sorry, didn't see this thread earlier, I was away playing L.A. Noire.

When I upgraded my PC recently I don't do as much console gaming now.

Prefer the games on Consoles. Tough to outgrow the platforms that have the better games. Though I am recently addicted to The Witcher 2. Amazing game I might add.

Prefer the games on Consoles. Tough to outgrow the platforms that have the better games. Though I am recently addicted to The Witcher 2. Amazing game I might add.

Puckhog04

whoh, you bought NNN2?

like how is that game? did you buy the first and was a fan or did you just decide to give this a try on a whilm?

Not me!

Nope. In fact, I'm more into them then ever before, and I've had them since atari 2600.TheMoreYouOwn

it's funny because consoles got me into gameing.

if it wasn't for consoles I would never have cared enough about gaming to recognize the fact that PCs could even play them.If it wasn't for consoles this site wouldn't even exist.

The only reason I don't play on consoles is I work 13 hours a day. I can bring my laptop,3DS and psp at work though.

I play my pc and psp mostly and the next big thing on console.

I outgrew consoles in the early 90s. I'm 100% PC Gaming now.

I think I've outgrown the juvenile need to describe some games as "serious and mature" and some as "kiddy." Still finding plenty of games that appeal to someone well past any stage one could describe as juvenile on the consoles.Boomshaffted

In the back of your mind you must still contemplate the target demographic. A kiddy game is still a kiddy game when it is deemed so by the those who release it.

I used to be primarily a PC gamer, and now I am primarily a console gamer. After I quit playing World of Warcraft, there was nothing else on PC that interested me. Console has boat loads of games that interest me.

[QUOTE="Boomshaffted"]I think I've outgrown the juvenile need to describe some games as "serious and mature" and some as "kiddy." Still finding plenty of games that appeal to someone well past any stage one could describe as juvenile on the consoles.AdamK47

In the back of your mind you must still contemplate the target demographic. A kiddy game is still a kiddy game when it is deemed so by the those who release it.

And as I hinted at in my previous post, such actions are, ironically, themselves quite juvenile. So "target demographic" to me seems of little consequence when compared to value to actual audiences. Magic: The Gathering was originally targeted at an early-teen audience, but today there's a pro-tour of Magic with tens of thousands of dollars of prizes on the line played almost exclusively by adults. Viva Pinata is a game that, from gameplay merits, obviously has tremendous value to older gamers which few younger gamers would be able to enjoy - but a look at the game would *suggest* that it was targeted for kids.

How many adults love Mario and Zelda and Kirby because they're good games? As soon as older gamers start enjoying games that are targeted to be "kiddy," then people using the designation of "kiddy" becomes a vain attempt on the part of the user to display their maturity - something that it's usually those who are unsure of their maturity feel the need to do.

Wow, I had no idea consoles were childish and PC games were mature and grown up. Thanks for the enlightnement, TC.

For second there I thought this was just about growing out of general gaming thing, guess not.

As soon as I got economically independent, first thing I did.. yes you guessed it, I bought a console. I didn't have to say I wanted a PC for studying purposes when it was actually for gaming :P

[QUOTE="Boomshaffted"]I think I've outgrown the juvenile need to describe some games as "serious and mature" and some as "kiddy." Still finding plenty of games that appeal to someone well past any stage one could describe as juvenile on the consoles.AdamK47

In the back of your mind you must still contemplate the target demographic. A kiddy game is still a kiddy game when it is deemed so by the those who release it.

How many of you feel you have outgrown consoles and their games and are only interested in "serious and mature" PC games now?

It seems to me quite some PC gamers look down upon games like Halo, Gears of War and the like (not to mention kiddy games like Mario) in favour of deep and advanced PC games.

I personally play all sorts of games from kiddy ones to hardcore sims.

nameless12345

I don't see any of those games as 'kiddy', personally.

There's serious and mature games on all platforms. They're not exclusive to PC.

There's also kiddy games on all platforms.

Sometimes I feel like ive outgrown system wars...

Definitely TC,

PC is were its at.

I would more say I have out grown gaming, while I still play games I can live without it now while it used to be my life. As you grow up and have more money you find other things that are much more fun. imprezawrx500

That has nothing to do with growing up though, sounds like you've just found something else that you want to do more.

I'm 35 and I'd much rather play console games than PC games. I like fun accessible games like action/adventure, shooters, sandboxes, and some sports. I have no interest in deep strategic games or complex RPGs.incuensuocha

Simply put, a person who works a hard day, perhaps spends a day taxing their mind, oftentimes wants to come home to a nice, enjoyable, slow paced I remember having a character who was top 10 on the USwest ladder in Diablo II, having an over 97% win rate on my Starcraft account over hundreds of games, and I also remember the immense energy it took and how mentally taxing it was to maintain those standings. As I got older, these "hardcore" gaming pursuits gave way to having a fulfilling career, people in my life, etc. In a way, I have - and I'm not alone - matured out of what many of you try so hard to convince yourself is the "mature" side of gaming. Now I simply don't have the will to do these types of things any more.

Most people who argue that they are "mature" gamers are revealing their own immaturity. A mature gamer is probably someone who recognizes that the mature way to game is to play what you want in the way that works for you, regardless of how others judge the way you play. Some guys still manage that 97% and top of ladder intensity well into their later years though - that's part of being a "mature" gamer, just gaming the way that's right for you. At least, that's how I see it. Such a view makes talk of "kiddy" platforms seem pretty silly.

There are people more "mature" than you or I playing games of just about any type you can think of, whatever target demographic you THINK it's meant for.

You don't outgrow platforms. You can however outgrow gaming, but then, you can't call yourself gamer. True gamers just want to play games. Consoles are just one of the many 'tools' they use to do it.

I prefer console games to PC ones generally, so no.

I could use such empty generalizations as that, you're right. But I prefer to look at it as, if a game has clear value for an older gamer (as would be evidenced by my playing and enjoying it), then calling it "kiddy" is more a reflection on the person saying it than the game itself - an attempt to elevate oneself over the audience (of all ages) of said game, making oneself feel superior to the supposedly more juvenile audience.Boomshaffted

The same thing could be said for the poor person if he were caught reading a 2+ audience rated pop-up book. Sadly, I would have to win over my moral objections and "elevate" myself over that person.

And as I hinted at in my previous post, such actions are, ironically, themselves quite juvenile. So "target demographic" to me seems of little consequence when compared to value to actual audiences. Magic: The Gathering was originally targeted at an early-teen audience, but today there's a pro-tour of Magic with tens of thousands of dollars of prizes on the line played almost exclusively by adults. Viva Pinata is a game that, from gameplay merits, obviously has tremendous value to older gamers which few younger gamers would be able to enjoy - but a look at the game would *suggest* that it was targeted for kids.Boomshaffted

I applaude those "adults" who find entertainment value in Magic The Gathering. It's a refresing spin on the player demographic.

How many adults love Mario and Zelda and Kirby because they're good games? As soon as older gamers start enjoying games that are targeted to be "kiddy," then people using the designation of "kiddy" becomes a vain attempt on the part of the user to display their maturity - something that it's usually those who are unsure of their maturity feel the need to do.Boomshaffted

Studies have shown a shocking and disturbing correlation to those who like Kirby/Mario to those who like watching Glee. If you don't believe me, search for it on Google. It never lies.

Well these days there's not really much purely "kiddy" stuff, a cartoony looking game like Super Meat Boy can be insanely difficuly, a cute game like Little King Story can make jokes about polygamy (seriously), locopatho

You had me up until this point. Should have ended it here.

[a movie like Shrek or Pixar ones can stick in lots of adult themes and references while satisfying the kids, etc. Unless it's literally learning the ABCs or something there's not much need to worry about kiddiness !locopatho

The entertainment value of "Shrek" is undeniable, but you and I know that the target audience of Shrek is not the 21+ crowd. If you have to ponder the idea of whether you are playing a kiddie game, than yes, you are playing a kiddie game.

Yes, I do feel that way a bit after playing the Wii.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="AdamK47"] Well these days there's not really much purely "kiddy" stuff, a cartoony looking game like Super Meat Boy can be insanely difficuly, a cute game like Little King Story can make jokes about polygamy (seriously), AdamK47

You had me up until this point. Should have ended it here.

[a movie like Shrek or Pixar ones can stick in lots of adult themes and references while satisfying the kids, etc. Unless it's literally learning the ABCs or something there's not much need to worry about kiddiness !locopatho

The entertainment value of "Shrek" is undeniable, but you and I know that the target audience of Shrek is not the 21+ crowd. If you have to ponder the idea of whether you are playing a kiddie game, than yes, you are playing a kiddie game.

[QUOTE="Boomshaffted"]

The same thing could be said for the poor person if he were caught reading a 2+ audience rated pop-up book. Sadly, I would have to win over my moral objections and "elevate" myself over that person.

[QUOTE="Boomshaffted"]And as I hinted at in my previous post, such actions are, ironically, themselves quite juvenile. So "target demographic" to me seems of little consequence when compared to value to actual audiences. Magic: The Gathering was originally targeted at an early-teen audience, but today there's a pro-tour of Magic with tens of thousands of dollars of prizes on the line played almost exclusively by adults. Viva Pinata is a game that, from gameplay merits, obviously has tremendous value to older gamers which few younger gamers would be able to enjoy - but a look at the game would *suggest* that it was targeted for kids.AdamK47

I applaude those "adults" who find entertainment value in Magic The Gathering. It's a refresing spin on the player demographic.

How many adults love Mario and Zelda and Kirby because they're good games? As soon as older gamers start enjoying games that are targeted to be "kiddy," then people using the designation of "kiddy" becomes a vain attempt on the part of the user to display their maturity - something that it's usually those who are unsure of their maturity feel the need to do.Boomshaffted

Studies have shown a shocking and disturbing correlation to those who like Kirby/Mario to those who like watching Glee. If you don't believe me, search for it on Google. It never lies.

You don't outgrow platforms. You can however outgrow gaming, but then, you can't call yourself gamer. True gamers just want to play games. Consoles are just one of the many 'tools' they use to do it.

jhcho2

[QUOTE="incuensuocha"]I'm 35 and I'd much rather play console games than PC games. I like fun accessible games like action/adventure, shooters, sandboxes, and some sports. I have no interest in deep strategic games or complex RPGs.Boomshaffted

Simply put, a person who works a hard day, perhaps spends a day taxing their mind, oftentimes wants to come home to a nice, enjoyable, slow paced I remember having a character who was top 10 on the USwest ladder in Diablo II, having an over 97% win rate on my Starcraft account over hundreds of games, and I also remember the immense energy it took and how mentally taxing it was to maintain those standings. As I got older, these "hardcore" gaming pursuits gave way to having a fulfilling career, people in my life, etc. In a way, I have - and I'm not alone - matured out of what many of you try so hard to convince yourself is the "mature" side of gaming. Now I simply don't have the will to do these types of things any more.

Most people who argue that they are "mature" gamers are revealing their own immaturity. A mature gamer is probably someone who recognizes that the mature way to game is to play what you want in the way that works for you, regardless of how others judge the way you play. Some guys still manage that 97% and top of ladder intensity well into their later years though - that's part of being a "mature" gamer, just gaming the way that's right for you. At least, that's how I see it. Such a view makes talk of "kiddy" platforms seem pretty silly.

There are people more "mature" than you or I playing games of just about any type you can think of, whatever target demographic you THINK it's meant for.

:claps:

Well done, a very thoughtful and well put-together post. Completely agree. This is also one of the reasons why adults generally prefer watching movies that are simple entertainers and do not task the viewer much with thinking about the vagaries of the plot etc.

No. What I have outgrown is the elitist attitude for one platform over another. I just play games on whatever system fits my lifestyle at the moment. I just so happen to play on consoles most of the time, playing on PC whenever it suits me. Occasionally, I'll play on my PSP or DS. I play on my Android based phone. I'll even kill the battery on my Zune playing solitaire.

Do I care what other people call "mature" or "hardcore"? No. I left that mentality back in junior high. Games are games. At some points, the labels don't matter.

If it wasn't for consoles this site wouldn't even exist.

casharmy

It´s funny that you mentioned that because when Gamespot was created it was focused only on PC games. Only two years later they started doing console games as well.

So I guess if it wasn´t the PC,Gamespot wouldn´t exist.

no i feel like i outgrown pc gaming.. you can only stand so much wow or any other mmobefore it gets old