Yes the vast majority of Pc gamers have their computer hooked up to 42inch HDTVs in the living room. They also have two controllers plugged into the USB ports. 2% is pathetic and you say the game is more popular on PC. lol You seem to can't handle the truth. You probably think Street Fighter IV will also be more popular on PC.Jamex1987The truth is that the PC can easily hook up to an HDTV and play from a couch with a controller in hand. Simply because some people opt not to do it doesn't mean that it isn't a plus to PC gaming. People like me, Broken Rabbit, and AdrianWerner do it all the time. There isn't any reason why we can't have 2 controllers hook into USB ports any less than doing it with consoles. Thats the truth; It is a viable option for the PC.
Do you prefer PC games or platform games?
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Jamex1987"][ Really? I remember looking at the UK charts and PES PC was at the bottom then disappeared after the first week.Jamex1987Your point? There are PES fans everywhere, and many of them don't buy the game through conventional means. according to Konami the PC represents 2% of their game sales. Maybe the majority of those PC players pirated the game because I don't see how you could think this game is more popular sitting at a computer desk.
Yeah, my PC is hooked up to a projector, so I sit on the couch, but I buy sports games on consoles simply because the communities are bigger. PC gamers by and large do not play sports games. Even when Madden was out on PC, you would be lucky to find more than a dozen people to play against, and still, every time you logged on to EA network, its was the same few guys over and over again posting and playing.
Back a few years ago, I was absolutely IN LOVE with GTR2 for PC, but its impossible to find people to race with compared to a game like Forza 2, where I can easily just go online and find thousands of people to play against, even today. I consider GTR2 the superior game, but the community exists in very small pockets of players and modders and almost nobody plays it anymore. Probably most of them moved on to WoW, lol *vomit*.
Even Peter Moore openly admitted that the business model EA uses for sports gaming is simply not working on PC, and low sales are killing them in that market.
[QUOTE="Catpee"]Cool, so you have no problem with the Halo fanboys who yell to the high heavens about how Halo proves that console FPS >>>>>>>>>>>> PC FPS even though it obviously is not.Personally, I would rather prefer to call a spade a spade and not try to make a nonsensical argument about unfounded opinions. PC is better at some things than consoles....actually, it probably would be better at all things than consoles but developers like Bamco, SNK, EA, and Sony simply don't support it, so consoles is really all I have to work with at the moment given my taste in gamingVandalvideoI'm merely showing you how corrosive the argument is that you console fans have been using for months. I prefer soccer over football and hockey. I prefer PES so much so on the PC that it makes the PC the best platform for me to play sports on. Therefore, it isn't necessarily so that consoles are the place to go for sports games. People who like soccer may prefer to go to the PC.
Sure, PC is the place for soccer......if you prefer the inferior version of the superior franchise. I get it, it's your opinion, its just a bad one is all.
Yeah, my PC is hooked up to a projector, so I sit on the couch, but I buy sports games on consoles simply because the communities are bigger. PC gamers by and large do not play sports games. Even when Madden was out on PC, you would be lucky to find more than a dozen people to play against, and still, every time you logged on to EA network, its was the same few guys over and over again posting and playing.Back a few years ago, I was absolutely IN LOVE with GTR2 for PC, but its impossible to find people to race with compared to a game like Forza 2, where I can easily just go online and find thousands of people to play against, even today. I consider GTR2 the superior game, but the community exists in very small pockets of players and modders and almost nobody plays it anymore. Probably most of them moved on to WoW, lol *vomit*.Even Peter Moore openly admitted that the business model EA uses for sports gaming is simply not working on PC, and low sales are killing them in that market.CatpeeThe communities are big enough on the games to where, even if you play extensively, it isn't like you're going to be running into to many of the same people. I mean, who cares if the sizes are 30K compared to 100K or somewhere along that ratio. You aren't going to meet all 100K people, so it doesn't even matter.
Sure, PC is the place for soccer......if you prefer the inferior version of the superior franchise. I get it, it's your opinion, its just a bad one is all.CatpeeI already explained how the PC version of PES is superior to people like myself who are team junkies and prefer playing as our favorite teams which aren't in the console versions. I also like the superior graphics and sound quality.
Yes the vast majority of Pc gamers have their computer hooked up to 42inch HDTVs in the living room. They also have two controllers plugged into the USB ports. 2% is pathetic and you say the game is more popular on PC. lol You seem to can't handle the truth. You probably think Street Fighter IV will also be more popular on PC.Jamex1987
And yes, SF4 is going to bomb on PC....badly. More than likely it will be pirated at record levels and dropped for a mouse and keyboard title within weeks by nearly everyone who steals it. Those that buy it will do likewise. Most hardcore people with the $150-200 dollar arcade sticks (like myself) already own it on 360 or PS3 and relish at the gigantic community that consoles provide for fighting fans.
Book mark this thread if you think I'm wrong.
Are you kidding? You can't play SFIV online if you bootleg it, because it's GFWL.And yes, SF4 is going to bomb on PC....badly. More than likely it will be pirated at record levels and dropped for a mouse and keyboard title within weeks by nearly everyone who steals it. Those that buy it will do likewise. Most hardcore people with the $150-200 dollar arcade sticks (like myself) already own it on 360 or PS3 and relish at the gigantic community that consoles provide for fighting fans.
Book mark this thread if you think I'm wrong.
Catpee
It's going to be the superior version that all competitive scenes will use, because all inputs will work.
[QUOTE="Catpee"]Yeah, my PC is hooked up to a projector, so I sit on the couch, but I buy sports games on consoles simply because the communities are bigger. PC gamers by and large do not play sports games. Even when Madden was out on PC, you would be lucky to find more than a dozen people to play against, and still, every time you logged on to EA network, its was the same few guys over and over again posting and playing.Back a few years ago, I was absolutely IN LOVE with GTR2 for PC, but its impossible to find people to race with compared to a game like Forza 2, where I can easily just go online and find thousands of people to play against, even today. I consider GTR2 the superior game, but the community exists in very small pockets of players and modders and almost nobody plays it anymore. Probably most of them moved on to WoW, lol *vomit*.Even Peter Moore openly admitted that the business model EA uses for sports gaming is simply not working on PC, and low sales are killing them in that market.VandalvideoThe communities are big enough on the games to where, even if you play extensively, it isn't like you're going to be running into to many of the same people. I mean, who cares if the sizes are 30K compared to 100K or somewhere along that ratio. You aren't going to meet all 100K people, so it doesn't even matter.
It isn't the total players. Sports games on PC and consoles are peer-to-peer so you need someone relatively close with a good connection.
There arent 100k players playing Madden, even '08 6 months after release on PC that meet those criteria. We are talking a dead community, like searching for a player withing a thousand miles of me with a decent connection for 10 or more minutes dead. On console, you never have that problem. I can log on to Live and find a Madden player 9 months after release who probably lives within 30 minutes of me online right now ready to start.
And yes, it does matter who you play and how dedicated they are. The best Madden players play on console. If you play a constant rotation of freshly-pirated newbies who just quit after a butt-whooping, you will never get better.
The communities are big enough on the games to where, even if you play extensively, it isn't like you're going to be running into to many of the same people. I mean, who cares if the sizes are 30K compared to 100K or somewhere along that ratio. You aren't going to meet all 100K people, so it doesn't even matter.[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Catpee"]Yeah, my PC is hooked up to a projector, so I sit on the couch, but I buy sports games on consoles simply because the communities are bigger. PC gamers by and large do not play sports games. Even when Madden was out on PC, you would be lucky to find more than a dozen people to play against, and still, every time you logged on to EA network, its was the same few guys over and over again posting and playing.Back a few years ago, I was absolutely IN LOVE with GTR2 for PC, but its impossible to find people to race with compared to a game like Forza 2, where I can easily just go online and find thousands of people to play against, even today. I consider GTR2 the superior game, but the community exists in very small pockets of players and modders and almost nobody plays it anymore. Probably most of them moved on to WoW, lol *vomit*.Even Peter Moore openly admitted that the business model EA uses for sports gaming is simply not working on PC, and low sales are killing them in that market.Catpee
It isn't the total players. Sports games on PC and consoles are peer-to-peer so you need someone relatively close with a good connection.
There arent 100k players playing Madden, even '08 6 months after release on PC that meet those criteria. We are talking a dead community, like searching for a player withing a thousand miles of me with a decent connection for 10 or more minutes dead. On console, you never have that problem. I can log on to Live and find a Madden player 9 months after release who probably lives within 30 minutes of me online right now ready to start.
And yes, it does matter who you play and how dedicated they are. The best Madden players play on console. If you play a constant rotation of freshly-pirated newbies who just quit after a butt-whooping, you will never get better.
That is hands down the dumbest thing i have heard today, what's more sad is you actually believe it.It isn't the total players. Sports games on PC and consoles are peer-to-peer so you need someone relatively close with a good connection.There arent 100k players playing Madden, even '08 6 months after release on PC that meet those criteria. We are talking a dead community, like searching for a player withing a thousand miles of me with a decent connection for 10 or more minutes dead. On console, you never have that problem. I can log on to Live and find a Madden player 9 months after release who probably lives within 30 minutes of me online right now ready to start.And yes, it does matter who you play and how dedicated they are. The best Madden players play on console. If you play a constant rotation of freshly-pirated newbies who just quit after a butt-whooping, you will never get better.CatpeeI haven't really ever had much of a problem with the online play in sports games, even with it being PTP and playing online. For the most part, even if I'm playing with people overseas it isn't high enough to really matter. People shouldn't be playing for competition sakes online anyway. If you wanna be fickle and pro about it, you should be lanning as it is. For the online that it is, the online that most PC sports games do have are perfectly functional. There are people playing with enough servers to play.
Are you kidding? You can't play SFIV online if you bootleg it, because it's GFWL.[QUOTE="Catpee"]
And yes, SF4 is going to bomb on PC....badly. More than likely it will be pirated at record levels and dropped for a mouse and keyboard title within weeks by nearly everyone who steals it. Those that buy it will do likewise. Most hardcore people with the $150-200 dollar arcade sticks (like myself) already own it on 360 or PS3 and relish at the gigantic community that consoles provide for fighting fans.
Book mark this thread if you think I'm wrong.
Aljosa23
It's going to be the superior version that all competitive scenes will use, because all inputs will work.
You can't possibly believe that. You honestly think tournaments are going to use the PC version? I'd bet money its 360. Heck, even the European national qualifying rounds were played on Xbox Live leaving PS3 players out in the cold, so I'd say PC users will get shafted yet again.
You can't possibly believe that. You honestly think tournaments are going to use the PC version? I'd bet money its 360. Heck, even the European national qualifying rounds were played on Xbox Live leaving PS3 players out in the cold, so I'd say PC users will get shafted yet again.CatpeeThanks to GGPO, Street FIghter has received a LOT of exposure in the competitive scene on the PC. There is a chance that it will be used. I wouldn't count it out.
[QUOTE="Catpee"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] The communities are big enough on the games to where, even if you play extensively, it isn't like you're going to be running into to many of the same people. I mean, who cares if the sizes are 30K compared to 100K or somewhere along that ratio. You aren't going to meet all 100K people, so it doesn't even matter. BoloTheGreat
It isn't the total players. Sports games on PC and consoles are peer-to-peer so you need someone relatively close with a good connection.
There arent 100k players playing Madden, even '08 6 months after release on PC that meet those criteria. We are talking a dead community, like searching for a player withing a thousand miles of me with a decent connection for 10 or more minutes dead. On console, you never have that problem. I can log on to Live and find a Madden player 9 months after release who probably lives within 30 minutes of me online right now ready to start.
And yes, it does matter who you play and how dedicated they are. The best Madden players play on console. If you play a constant rotation of freshly-pirated newbies who just quit after a butt-whooping, you will never get better.
That is hands down the dumbest thing i have heard today, what's more sad is you actually believe it.If I was wrong, EA would still be selling Madden on PC.
Dude...the PC is an open platform and all inputs will work on it. Plus there's added graphics options. You can think all you like, but it will be exactly like that. All the main tourneys will use the PC version.You can't possibly believe that. You honestly think tournaments are going to use the PC version? I'd bet money its 360. Heck, even the European national qualifying rounds were played on Xbox Live leaving PS3 players out in the cold, so I'd say PC users will get shafted yet again.
Catpee
And wtf? How do PC users get shafted when you just said "leaving PS3 players out in the cold"? :|
Honestly, I have to say both. Also, not all PC games turn out to be looking spectacular on the PC. Just look at games like Resident Evil 4 & Devil May Cry 3: Special Edition.
There's mods for that, good try though.Honestly, I have to say both. Also, not all PC games turn out to be looking spectacular on the PC. Just look at games like Resident Evil 4 & Devil May Cry 3: Special Edition.
garland51
Yes but the vast majority do.Honestly, I have to say both. Also, not all PC games turn out to be looking spectacular on the PC. Just look at games like Resident Evil 4 & Devil May Cry 3: Special Edition.
garland51
There's mods for that, good try though.Ah the modding community, i do so love the STALKER community, have you checked out the 2009 update mod thing (i helped a little bit) just Google Kotaku STALKER and see for yourself the epicness of this new mod. :PAljosa23
Ah the modding community, i do so love the STALKER community, have you checked out the 2009 update mod thing (i helped a little bit) just Google Kotaku STALKER and see for yourself the epicness of this new mod. :PYou mean...STALKER looks better?[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]There's mods for that, good try though.
BoloTheGreat
That game and Crysis can't stop looking better.
I still need to play it though...:oops:
[QUOTE="Catpee"]You can't possibly believe that. You honestly think tournaments are going to use the PC version? I'd bet money its 360. Heck, even the European national qualifying rounds were played on Xbox Live leaving PS3 players out in the cold, so I'd say PC users will get shafted yet again.VandalvideoThanks to GGPO, Street Fighter has received a LOT of exposure in the competitive scene on the PC. There is a chance that it will be used. I wouldn't count it out.
I'll also be buying Street Fighter IV on the PC, even though I already have it on PS3.
Dude...the PC is an open platform and all inputs will work on it. Plus there's added graphics options. You can think all you like, but it will be exactly like that. All the main tourneys will use the PC version.[QUOTE="Catpee"]
You can't possibly believe that. You honestly think tournaments are going to use the PC version? I'd bet money its 360. Heck, even the European national qualifying rounds were played on Xbox Live leaving PS3 players out in the cold, so I'd say PC users will get shafted yet again.
Aljosa23
And wtf? How do PC users get shafted when you just said "leaving PS3 players out in the cold"? :|
SF4 on PS3 sold heavier than the 360 version in Europe, and moved more than a million copies worldwide in its first month released, and yet the PS3 version still got shafted in that instance. The PC won't sell anywhere close to what either console's version did, and you expect PC to be the platform of choice for touraments?
You said "main tournaments". Which ones specifically, because from what I hear, Evo and every other tournament I can find not played online is using the PS3 version. Tournament producers don't care if your stick doesn't work with the PS3 or Xbox 360, because they don't want the headaches involved with the buggier PC versions of games. Nobody wants to see Daigo and Wong crash to a blue screen in the final round, sorry.
Gimme a single link that backs up your points and I'll leave it be, but you are saying all the main tournaments are using PC versions and I can't find a single one.
Ah the modding community, i do so love the STALKER community, have you checked out the 2009 update mod thing (i helped a little bit) just Google Kotaku STALKER and see for yourself the epicness of this new mod. :PYou mean...STALKER looks better?[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]
[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]There's mods for that, good try though.
Aljosa23
That game and Crysis can't stop looking better.
I still need to play it though...:oops:
You can buy it for £5!! DO IT NOW!!! :P
Ah the modding community, i do so love the STALKER community, have you checked out the 2009 update mod thing (i helped a little bit) just Google Kotaku STALKER and see for yourself the epicness of this new mod. :PYou mean...STALKER looks better?[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]
[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]There's mods for that, good try though.
Aljosa23
That game and Crysis can't stop looking better.
I still need to play it though...:oops:
STALKER is best played with mods TBH. Just makes the game a much better experiance in the end.SF4 on PS3 sold heavier than the 360 version in Europe, and moved more than a million copies worldwide in its first month released, and yet the PS3 version still got shafted in that instance. The PC won't sell anywhere close to what either console's version did, and you expect PC to be the platform of choice for touraments?CatpeeWhy not? It isn't like you can't use your 360 or PS3 controller while playing the game on the PC. At the same time, the game will run at a higher FPS with more dedicated memory to make those time senstative moves even easier to pull off. At the same time, computers are easy to network and have a huge LAN going which makes spectation alot easier. There are definite pros to using a PC for a tournament setting.
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Jamex1987"][ Really? I remember looking at the UK charts and PES PC was at the bottom then disappeared after the first week.Jamex1987Your point? There are PES fans everywhere, and many of them don't buy the game through conventional means. according to Konami the PC represents 2% of their game sales. Maybe the majority of those PC players pirated the game because I don't see how you could think this game is more popular sitting at a computer desk.
How many PC games did Konami make? Its not like PC is their main market in anyway.
I prefer Consoles for most everything, then PC for some games...Like the battlefield series...MMO's and RTS
The only reason the 360 version is the main one, must be because it's better than the PS3 one, correct? Well by that logic, the PC version will be used because it is superior to both...and then some.SF4 on PS3 sold heavier than the 360 version in Europe, and moved more than a million copies worldwide in its first month released, and yet the PS3 version still got shafted in that instance. The PC won't sell anywhere close to what either console's version did, and you expect PC to be the platform of choice for touraments?
You said "main tournaments". Which ones specifically, because from what I hear, Evo and every other tournament I can find not played online is using the PS3 version. Tournament producers don't care if your stick doesn't work with the PS3 or Xbox 360, because they don't want the headaches involved with the buggier PC versions of games. Nobody wants to see Daigo and Wong crash to a blue screen in the final round, sorry.
Gimme a single link that backs up your points and I'll leave it be, but you are saying all the main tournaments are using PC versions and I can't find a single one.
Catpee
I can't provide a link due to the fact the PC version isn't out until another month or so. The reason I said it will be used is because all sticks will work on a PC, which is a more than valid reason for why I think they will use the PC version.
And the part I highlighted is hilarious. You really think someone like Capcom will make the PC version inferior. Are you forgetting DMC4 and Lost Planet?
[QUOTE="Catpee"]SF4 on PS3 sold heavier than the 360 version in Europe, and moved more than a million copies worldwide in its first month released, and yet the PS3 version still got shafted in that instance. The PC won't sell anywhere close to what either console's version did, and you expect PC to be the platform of choice for touraments?VandalvideoWhy not? It isn't like you can't use your 360 or PS3 controller while playing the game on the PC. At the same time, the game will run at a higher FPS with more dedicated memory to make those time senstative moves even easier to pull off. At the same time, computers are easy to network and have a huge LAN going which makes spectation alot easier. There are definite pros to using a PC for a tournament setting.
It runs at 60 FPS on all platforms. And again, its a reliability issue, which is why in-person tournaments use the PS3 version. Nobody is going to trust hosting a tournament giving away thousands of dollars in cash and prizes on an unstable platform like the PC. Sorry, you guys are dreaming, and to prove it, I ask you to prove me wrong. Evo is using PS3s, find me a major or even minor regional tournament coming up that is slated to run on PC. You won't find a single one.
[QUOTE="Catpee"]SF4 on PS3 sold heavier than the 360 version in Europe, and moved more than a million copies worldwide in its first month released, and yet the PS3 version still got shafted in that instance. The PC won't sell anywhere close to what either console's version did, and you expect PC to be the platform of choice for touraments?VandalvideoWhy not? It isn't like you can't use your 360 or PS3 controller while playing the game on the PC. At the same time, the game will run at a higher FPS with more dedicated memory to make those time senstative moves even easier to pull off. At the same time, computers are easy to network and have a huge LAN going which makes spectation alot easier. There are definite pros to using a PC for a tournament setting. I don't think he can see this, he is just determined to PC bash :( Why do people fear what they do not understand? Think of the PC as a more powerful, adaptable and useful console, Hell i don't get where these consolites are coming from, the consoles are getting so similar to PCs they even brag about running OSs :lol:. They have much in common, the PC is just a console with a different format and more added on, there is no magical line.
It runs at 60 FPS on all platforms. And again, its a reliability issue, which is why in-person tournaments use the PS3 version. Nobody is going to trust hosting a tournament giving away thousands of dollars in cash and prizes on an unstable platform like the PC. Sorry, you guys are dreaming, and to prove it, I ask you to prove me wrong. Evo is using PS3s, find me a major or even minor regional tournament coming up that is slated to run on PC. You won't find a single one.CatpeeAnd it can run on even higher FPS on a PC with the right kinds of rigs that may be supplied by the tournament people. Besides, how can you say the PC verison is unstable before you've even played it? As far as tournament stability goes, there is a reason why the biggest tournaments in the world like SOTF and many others primarily use the PC. PCs are great for tournament settings because they are easy to configure, they allow for easy split signal for spectating purposes, and they allow for multiple inputs.
The only reason the 360 version is the main one, must be because it's better than the PS3 one, correct? Well by that logic, the PC version will be used because it is superior to both...and then some.[QUOTE="Catpee"]
SF4 on PS3 sold heavier than the 360 version in Europe, and moved more than a million copies worldwide in its first month released, and yet the PS3 version still got shafted in that instance. The PC won't sell anywhere close to what either console's version did, and you expect PC to be the platform of choice for touraments?
You said "main tournaments". Which ones specifically, because from what I hear, Evo and every other tournament I can find not played online is using the PS3 version. Tournament producers don't care if your stick doesn't work with the PS3 or Xbox 360, because they don't want the headaches involved with the buggier PC versions of games. Nobody wants to see Daigo and Wong crash to a blue screen in the final round, sorry.
Gimme a single link that backs up your points and I'll leave it be, but you are saying all the main tournaments are using PC versions and I can't find a single one.
Aljosa23
I can't provide a link due to the fact the PC version isn't out until another month or so. The reason I said it will be used is because all sticks will work on a PC, which is a more than valid reason for why I think they will use the PC version.
And the part I highlighted is hilarious. You really think someone like Capcom will make the PC version inferior. Are you forgetting DMC4 and Lost Planet?
No, the PS3 is used for in person tournaments, the 360 was used in the European nationals only because it was hosted online.
I'm not saying the PC version will be inferior, it just won't be any better or worse than either of the console versions, but it will have FAR fewer players playing it than either of the console versions.
And thanks for bringing up my point with Lost Planet, IT SCORED A FULL POINT LOWER ON THE PC THAN THE CONSOLES!!! AND DO YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE IT WAS A BUGGY MESS WHEN IT WAS RELEASED!!! Gamespot direct quote "Various technical and porting issues get in the way of the enjoyment"
You guys are really dense if you think the PC is going to be the dominant platform for tournaments. This is not even debateable....it won't be.
Why not? It isn't like you can't use your 360 or PS3 controller while playing the game on the PC. At the same time, the game will run at a higher FPS with more dedicated memory to make those time senstative moves even easier to pull off. At the same time, computers are easy to network and have a huge LAN going which makes spectation alot easier. There are definite pros to using a PC for a tournament setting.[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Catpee"]SF4 on PS3 sold heavier than the 360 version in Europe, and moved more than a million copies worldwide in its first month released, and yet the PS3 version still got shafted in that instance. The PC won't sell anywhere close to what either console's version did, and you expect PC to be the platform of choice for touraments?Catpee
It runs at 60 FPS on all platforms. And again, its a reliability issue, which is why in-person tournaments use the PS3 version. Nobody is going to trust hosting a tournament giving away thousands of dollars in cash and prizes on an unstable platform like the PC. Sorry, you guys are dreaming, and to prove it, I ask you to prove me wrong. Evo is using PS3s, find me a major or even minor regional tournament coming up that is slated to run on PC. You won't find a single one.
Hater confirmed, if you think that all PCs are inherently more unstable than any console you fail to grasp the basic priciples of hardware and sofware. You can't just make balnket statements like that, it's simply not ture. Who says my PC is more unstable than my 360? Do you know everything about my PC? It's very stable, infact i have never had a Blue Screen of death (ermm... When i wasn't doing some extream overclocking tests......).
I have had a RROD though, and plenty of overheats and freezes, does that make the 360 an "Unstable system" too? or was that statement just blind bashing of something you lack relevant knowledge on?
Lost Planet was patched shortly after and now is better than the console versions. :|No, the PS3 is used for in person tournaments, the 360 was used in the European nationals only because it was hosted online.
I'm not saying the PC version will be inferior, it just won't be any better or worse than either of the console versions, but it will have FAR fewer players playing it than either of the console versions.
And thanks for bringing up my point with Lost Planet, IT SCORED A FULL POINT LOWER ON THE PC THAN THE CONSOLES!!! AND DO YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE IT WAS A BUGGY MESS WHEN IT WAS RELEASED!!! Gamespot direct quote "Various technical and porting issues get in the way of the enjoyment"
You guys are really dense if you think the PC is going to be the dominant platform for tournaments. This is not even debateable....it won't be.
Catpee
I still don't think you understand why the PC version will be user. Let me speak slowly.
It will be used because it allows multiple inputs to be used allowing 360 and PS3 players to play together. What is so hard to comprehend about that?
[QUOTE="Catpee"]It runs at 60 FPS on all platforms. And again, its a reliability issue, which is why in-person tournaments use the PS3 version. Nobody is going to trust hosting a tournament giving away thousands of dollars in cash and prizes on an unstable platform like the PC. Sorry, you guys are dreaming, and to prove it, I ask you to prove me wrong. Evo is using PS3s, find me a major or even minor regional tournament coming up that is slated to run on PC. You won't find a single one.VandalvideoAnd it can run on even higher FPS on a PC with the right kinds of rigs that may be supplied by the tournament people. Besides, how can you say the PC verison is unstable before you've even played it? As far as tournament stability goes, there is a reason why the biggest tournaments in the world like SOTF and many others primarily use the PC. PCs are great for tournament settings because they are easy to configure, they allow for easy split signal for spectating purposes, and they allow for multiple inputs.
I'm sorry, did you just compare survival of the fittest to EVO? LMAO....seriously, is SOTF even around anymore? You obviously don't even play fighting games so why are you still in this thread....
The reason SOTF uses PCs is because they are first person shooter tournaments and first person shooters are far better on PCs with a M&K.
Get real, if you guys honestly believe PCs are going to be hosting SF4 tournaments, you are out of your mind fanboys.
[QUOTE="Catpee"]Why not? It isn't like you can't use your 360 or PS3 controller while playing the game on the PC. At the same time, the game will run at a higher FPS with more dedicated memory to make those time senstative moves even easier to pull off. At the same time, computers are easy to network and have a huge LAN going which makes spectation alot easier. There are definite pros to using a PC for a tournament setting. I don't think he can see this, he is just determined to PC bash :( Why do people fear what they do not understand? Think of the PC as a more powerful, adaptable and useful console, Hell i don't get where these consolites are coming from, the consoles are getting so similar to PCs they even brag about running OSs :lol:. They have much in common, the PC is just a console with a different format and more added on, there is no magical line. The guy wasn't bashing the PC but was stating facts. SF IV PC version used in tournaments? please.... With all the different PC configs you will hope to find online players with decent computers or else the game will just lag.Console players don't have to worry about performance lag because they all use the same system.[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] [QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Catpee"]SF4 on PS3 sold heavier than the 360 version in Europe, and moved more than a million copies worldwide in its first month released, and yet the PS3 version still got shafted in that instance. The PC won't sell anywhere close to what either console's version did, and you expect PC to be the platform of choice for touraments?BoloTheGreat
I'm sorry, did you just compare survival of the fittest to EVO? LMAO....seriously, is SOTF even around anymore? You obviously don't even play fighting games so why are you still in this thread....The reason SOTF uses PCs is because they are first person shooter tournaments and first person shooters are far better on PCs with a M&K.Get real, if you guys honestly believe PCs are going to be hosting SF4 tournaments, you are out of your mind fanboys.CatpeeYes, I did just compare "Tournaments LIKE survival of the fittest to EVO". There are plenty of tournaments that use the PC. If anything, there are prorpotionally more PC tournaments than there are console tournaments. The PC has the most tournaments out of any platform to be quite honest. The PC has clear strengths, and if you're just going to ignore that then you're being dishonest to the tournament scene. The facts of the matter are very, very simple; The PC can provide just as much if not more stability thanks to better performance, it allows for multiple configs and controllers to allow people from all platforms to play on it, and it allows for easier set up thanks to networking and split feed functions that you don't find on consoles. I can see why a tournament organizer may want to use the PC to do their tournaments.
Lost Planet was patched shortly after and now is better than the console versions. :|[QUOTE="Catpee"]
No, the PS3 is used for in person tournaments, the 360 was used in the European nationals only because it was hosted online.
I'm not saying the PC version will be inferior, it just won't be any better or worse than either of the console versions, but it will have FAR fewer players playing it than either of the console versions.
And thanks for bringing up my point with Lost Planet, IT SCORED A FULL POINT LOWER ON THE PC THAN THE CONSOLES!!! AND DO YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE IT WAS A BUGGY MESS WHEN IT WAS RELEASED!!! Gamespot direct quote "Various technical and porting issues get in the way of the enjoyment"
You guys are really dense if you think the PC is going to be the dominant platform for tournaments. This is not even debateable....it won't be.
Aljosa23
I still don't think you understand why the PC version will be user. Let me speak slowly.
It will be used because it allows multiple inputs to be used allowing 360 and PS3 players to play together. What is so hard to comprehend about that?
Lost planet is better than console version? Says you. Tournaments are scheduled a year in advance so do you honestly believe they are just going to wait around for a patch to come out or play it on a system they know runs it flawlessly.
PC hosting fighting games has never happened in the past on any fighting game for EVO (the biggest and most copied fighting game tournament in the world), and it will never happen as long as Windows is the primary platform for PC gaming. Sorry. It just won't. If you believe I'm wrong, book mark the thread and come own me later, but you are seriously DELUSIONAL if you believe what you are saying is gonig to become reality.
And it can run on even higher FPS on a PC with the right kinds of rigs that may be supplied by the tournament people. Besides, how can you say the PC verison is unstable before you've even played it? As far as tournament stability goes, there is a reason why the biggest tournaments in the world like SOTF and many others primarily use the PC. PCs are great for tournament settings because they are easy to configure, they allow for easy split signal for spectating purposes, and they allow for multiple inputs.[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Catpee"]It runs at 60 FPS on all platforms. And again, its a reliability issue, which is why in-person tournaments use the PS3 version. Nobody is going to trust hosting a tournament giving away thousands of dollars in cash and prizes on an unstable platform like the PC. Sorry, you guys are dreaming, and to prove it, I ask you to prove me wrong. Evo is using PS3s, find me a major or even minor regional tournament coming up that is slated to run on PC. You won't find a single one.Catpee
I'm sorry, did you just compare survival of the fittest to EVO? LMAO....seriously, is SOTF even around anymore? You obviously don't even play fighting games so why are you still in this thread....
The reason SOTF uses PCs is because they are first person shooter tournaments and first person shooters are far better on PCs with a M&K.
Get real, if you guys honestly believe PCs are going to be hosting SF4 tournaments, you are out of your mind fanboys.
Great, now were fanboys for saying a more powerful system with a higher FPS, Greater flexibility and more inputs might just be used to host a couple of tourneys. Great. Go read up on PC gmaing or something, god knows you need to. Hell you might even find some great games you've been missing like STALKER; SoC.On a side note, everyone needs to play that game. IT'S £5 NOW PEOPLE! I've spent more on crisps this week!!PC hosting fighting games has never happened in the past on any fighting game for EVO (the biggest and most copied fighting game tournament in the world), and it will never happen as long as Windows is the primary platform for PC gaming. Sorry. It just won't. If you believe I'm wrong, book mark the thread and come own me later, but you are seriously DELUSIONAL if you believe what you are saying is gonig to become reality.CatpeeWhether it has happened in the past is irrelevant to if it will happen in the future. The fact of the matter is that there are a lot of attractions to hosting a tournament on the PC, as has been previously listed. It is totally plausible that EVO organizers may want to opt for a PC host.
I really believe what I'm saying, and this conversation is going in circles.Lost planet is better than console version? Says you. Tournaments are scheduled a year in advance so do you honestly believe they are just going to wait around for a patch to come out or play it on a system they know runs it flawlessly.
PC hosting fighting games has never happened in the past on any fighting game for EVO (the biggest and most copied fighting game tournament in the world), and it will never happen as long as Windows is the primary platform for PC gaming. Sorry. It just won't. If you believe I'm wrong, book mark the thread and come own me later, but you are seriously DELUSIONAL if you believe what you are saying is gonig to become reality.
Catpee
Lost Planet was patched shortly after and now is better than the console versions. :|[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]
[QUOTE="Catpee"]
No, the PS3 is used for in person tournaments, the 360 was used in the European nationals only because it was hosted online.
I'm not saying the PC version will be inferior, it just won't be any better or worse than either of the console versions, but it will have FAR fewer players playing it than either of the console versions.
And thanks for bringing up my point with Lost Planet, IT SCORED A FULL POINT LOWER ON THE PC THAN THE CONSOLES!!! AND DO YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE IT WAS A BUGGY MESS WHEN IT WAS RELEASED!!! Gamespot direct quote "Various technical and porting issues get in the way of the enjoyment"
You guys are really dense if you think the PC is going to be the dominant platform for tournaments. This is not even debateable....it won't be.
Catpee
I still don't think you understand why the PC version will be user. Let me speak slowly.
It will be used because it allows multiple inputs to be used allowing 360 and PS3 players to play together. What is so hard to comprehend about that?
Lost planet is better than console version? Says you. Tournaments are scheduled a year in advance so do you honestly believe they are just going to wait around for a patch to come out or play it on a system they know runs it flawlessly.
PC hosting fighting games has never happened in the past on any fighting game for EVO (the biggest and most copied fighting game tournament in the world), and it will never happen as long as Windows is the primary platform for PC gaming. Sorry. It just won't. If you believe I'm wrong, book mark the thread and come own me later, but you are seriously DELUSIONAL if you believe what you are saying is gonig to become reality.
The PC version looks better and controls better. It had a few problems when it lanched but they were fixed shortly after. Have you ever played the PC version BTW? I don't see how you can comment on it.
Great, now were fanboys for saying a more powerful system with a higher FPS, Greater flexibility and more inputs might just be used to host a couple of tourneys. Great. Go read up on PC gmaing or something, god knows you need to. Hell you might even find some great games you've been missing like STALKER; SoC.On a side note, everyone needs to play that game. IT'S £5 NOW PEOPLE! I've spent more on crisps this week!![QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]
[QUOTE="Catpee"]
I'm sorry, did you just compare survival of the fittest to EVO? LMAO....seriously, is SOTF even around anymore? You obviously don't even play fighting games so why are you still in this thread....
The reason SOTF uses PCs is because they are first person shooter tournaments and first person shooters are far better on PCs with a M&K.
Get real, if you guys honestly believe PCs are going to be hosting SF4 tournaments, you are out of your mind fanboys.
Catpee
Frames per second when the game runs at 60 on the consoles? That is the fastest you would want or need, and in fact, the game will undoubtedly be locked at 60 playable frames per second because fighting strategies are measured in frames per move.
And for christ sakes, I OWN A PC, I have already stated it many times. I will UPGRADE my already owned PC when D3 comes out, and not before it. I believe PC is superior for games like STALKER (and all FPSs), RTS, and MMOs, and if you like those games, you would be fooling yourself to think you are getting the highest quality experience on console.
READ THE WHOLE THREAD OR DON'T POST ON IT.
Having said all that, I play fighting games and sports games almost exclusively at this point in my life, and for both those genre's, PC is a 2nd class citizen.
Again, this has all been said in this thread already, many times, so if you are hearing it for the first time, you are either lazy or stupid.
Well i guess we can we can agree on one thing.;)it depends on the game but a lot of console shooters and wrpg games, when i play them i cant help saying "this would be so much better on the pc" surrealnumber5
Agreed. First time I played COD4 on the console, I threw the controller on the floor after about 10 minutes. How anyone uses those imprecise analog sticks to control their fire is beyond me. I respect players who can use them, but I'm not going to bother beating my head against a wall learning how to use a stone hammer efficiently when there is a nail gun sitting right next to me.
90% of the people bashing the PC don't play PC games. -Master_St3ve-but they love their pstripples
[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]it depends on the game but a lot of console shooters and wrpg games, when i play them i cant help saying "this would be so much better on the pc" Catpee
Agreed. First time I played COD4 on the console, I threw the controller on the floor after about 10 minutes. How anyone uses those imprecise analog sticks to control their fire is beyond me. I respect players who can use them, but I'm not going to bother beating my head against a wall learning how to use a hammer efficiently when there is a nail gun sitting right next to me.
I Actually sit in a rather comfortable place where i can use both pretty equally (up to their limits of course), i grew up with both and so am pretty ept with dual analog for FPS. Hell i bought Bioshock for the 360 because it had stupid DRM on the PC. That's the one thing bad on the PC, Piracy and .more over, the ass backwards way EA and the like tires to combat it by limiting end user functionality. "Enjoy your £30 spore rental" sound be EA's slogan.[QUOTE="-Master_St3ve-"]90% of the people bashing the PC don't play PC games. surrealnumber5but they love their pstripples I'm not sure what I hate more. Lemming dominated SW, or cow dominated SW.
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