Do You Prefer WRPG's Or JRPG's?

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#1 Animal-Mother
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For me it's always been JRPGS i mean i loved KOTOR but i've always had more fun playing japanese rpgs Final Fantasy, Star Ocean, Xenosaga, and i'm also pretty exicted for lost odessy can't wait to see a more adult jrpg on the xbox
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FF7>KOTOR.
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I do not play RPGs that frequently but ones I do play are JRPGS. I prefer any RPG that abandons the typical formula in favour of something a little more creative or different, even if its implementation is not wholly successful. I have been enjoying Contact on the DS recently which fits that category perfectly, as does Baten Kaitos which I also found to be excellent.
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#4 saolin323
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WRPG's by miles, the fredom and not the confinement of JRPG's is my cup of tea far more

I love the best of JRPG's too though, just not as mcuh

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WRPG = choices, roleplaying and not linear.

JRPG= no real roleplaying, lead you by the nose and linear.

Its up to the individual to choose which they prefer

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#6 _Tobli_
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I play both, but i prefer JRPG's. They usually do a better job of making an emotional attachment to the character/s, and the storyline
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#7 Ragashahs
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WRPG = choices, roleplaying and not linear.

JRPG= no real roleplaying, lead you by the nose and linear.

Its up to the individual to choose which they prefer

blue_hazy_basic
agree with your jrpg perspective to some degree but as for WRPG the whole choice things always changs little in the end you pretty much either get a good ending, bad ending, or inbetween ending.
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#8 saolin323
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I play both, but i prefer JRPG's. They usually do a better job of making an emotional attachment to the character/s, and the storyline_Tobli_

I like my RPG's to offer more roleplaying than rolewatching though, that is why while i love JRPG's, i enjoy and want much more to play WRPG's

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#9 saolin323
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

WRPG = choices, roleplaying and not linear.

JRPG= no real roleplaying, lead you by the nose and linear.

Its up to the individual to choose which they prefer

Ragashahs

agree with your jrpg perspective to some degree but as for WRPG the whole choice things always changs little in the end you pretty much either get a good ending, bad ending, or inbetween ending.

But a game is not just its ending, it is the battles, the freedom to do anything, and not get stuck for hours in cut-scenes etc

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#10 Oscar-Wilde
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I pretty much like them the same, but i have enjoyed a greater number of JRPGs, but then again JRPGs were more abundant the last two gens.
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Noob question here, but what does WRPG stand for?
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#12 Oscar-Wilde
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Noob question here, but what does WRPG stand for?Exeed_Orbit

Western role playing games, as in RPGs not made in Japan.

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#13 aliblabla2007
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Noob question here, but what does WRPG stand for?Exeed_Orbit

Western RPG. JRPG = Japanese RPG.

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Noob question here, but what does WRPG stand for?Exeed_Orbit

Western role playing game. Basically game's like KOTOR.

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#15 bluewrxman
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i like jrpg's more because i spent so much time playing them in the ps1 days...
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#16 Animal-Mother
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Western Role Playing Game, Ala KOTOR, Mass Effect, to be honest i really cant think of anymore
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I prefer JRPG's over WRPG's but there are some great WRPG's like Mass Effect, Kotor 1, Jade Empire, Diablo 1,2 and Baldur's gate 2
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

WRPG = choices, roleplaying and not linear.

JRPG= no real roleplaying, lead you by the nose and linear.

Its up to the individual to choose which they prefer

Ragashahs
agree with your jrpg perspective to some degree but as for WRPG the whole choice things always changs little in the end you pretty much either get a good ending, bad ending, or inbetween ending.

depends on the game but that is true of most. However, it also includes all the sidequests, and some of these have major impacts apon the game.
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#20 omarguy01
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in general i see myself playing more jrpgs than wrpgs. but honestly that's just coinsidence bc i just play whatever is good. i'd take a good wrpg over a bad jrpg any day
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[QUOTE="Ragashahs"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

WRPG = choices, roleplaying and not linear.

JRPG= no real roleplaying, lead you by the nose and linear.

Its up to the individual to choose which they prefer

saolin323

agree with your jrpg perspective to some degree but as for WRPG the whole choice things always changs little in the end you pretty much either get a good ending, bad ending, or inbetween ending.

But a game is not just its ending, it is the battles, the freedom to do anything, and not get stuck for hours in cut-scenes etc

but whats the point i'd rather watch cutscenes than rather make choices that really don't matter in the end becuase i can still do something to completely change the end later. my example is kotor. kotor is a great game in many respectcs but i never found a use for the choice element. the whole game you can contine to be and evil person or a good person or in between person but in teh final parts of teh game you can make choices that make you a good jedi or turn to teh dark side that completely ingnore what you did in the past.
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[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="Ragashahs"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

WRPG = choices, roleplaying and not linear.

JRPG= no real roleplaying, lead you by the nose and linear.

Its up to the individual to choose which they prefer

Ragashahs

agree with your jrpg perspective to some degree but as for WRPG the whole choice things always changs little in the end you pretty much either get a good ending, bad ending, or inbetween ending.

But a game is not just its ending, it is the battles, the freedom to do anything, and not get stuck for hours in cut-scenes etc

but whats the point i'd rather watch cutscenes than rather make choices that really don't matter in the end becuase i can still do something to completely change the end later. my example is kotor. kotor is a great game in many respectcs but i never found a use for the choice element. the whole game you can contine to be and evil person or a good person or in between person but in teh final parts of teh game you can make choices that make you a good jedi or turn to teh dark side that completely ingnore what you did in the past.

KOTOR was a great game and this to an extent illustrates the choices. Why shouldn't a character steeped in the dark side at the last minute have that chance of redemption (like Vader in Return) or the chance of ultimate power be too much for that Jedi who has striven to do his best? You shouldn't be locked into a single path because of your previous decisions.
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#23 naval
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for me wrpgs beat jrpgs in each and every department, even in stories and character
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#24 Ragashahs
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[QUOTE="Ragashahs"][QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="Ragashahs"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

WRPG = choices, roleplaying and not linear.

JRPG= no real roleplaying, lead you by the nose and linear.

Its up to the individual to choose which they prefer

blue_hazy_basic

agree with your jrpg perspective to some degree but as for WRPG the whole choice things always changs little in the end you pretty much either get a good ending, bad ending, or inbetween ending.

But a game is not just its ending, it is the battles, the freedom to do anything, and not get stuck for hours in cut-scenes etc

but whats the point i'd rather watch cutscenes than rather make choices that really don't matter in the end becuase i can still do something to completely change the end later. my example is kotor. kotor is a great game in many respectcs but i never found a use for the choice element. the whole game you can contine to be and evil person or a good person or in between person but in teh final parts of teh game you can make choices that make you a good jedi or turn to teh dark side that completely ingnore what you did in the past.

KOTOR was a great game and this to an extent illustrates the choices. Why shouldn't a character steeped in the dark side at the last minute have that chance of redemption (like Vader in Return) or the chance of ultimate power be too much for that Jedi who has striven to do his best? You shouldn't be locked into a single path because of your previous decisions.

but your allowed to have a change of heart at the end what the point of the whole choice part in the rest of the game? is basically is useless cause you know in the end you can just make the choices y ou really want in teh end
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but your allowed to have a change of heart at the end what the point of the whole choice part in the rest of the game? is basically is useless cause you know in the end you can just make the choices y ou really want in teh endRagashahs

Redemption and falling are a critical part of many stories. I like the option. Again its all a personal preference.

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WRPGs. Not to mention, if it wasnt for WRPGs, there would be no JRPGs. Dont forget the granddaddy of them all, started back in the 70s by Gary Gygax.... Dungeons and Dragons! Pencil and dice that was so popular, it eventually made its way onto game systems. ;)
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[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]but your allowed to have a change of heart at the end what the point of the whole choice part in the rest of the game? is basically is useless cause you know in the end you can just make the choices y ou really want in teh endblue_hazy_basic

Redemption and falling are a critical part of many stories. I like the option. Again its all a personal preference.

agree it's personal prefereance but i do admit i like WRPG's when done right like kotor and ME
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WRPGs. Not to mention, if it wasnt for WRPGs, there would be no JRPGs. Dont forget the granddaddy of them all, started back in the 70s by Gary Gygax.... Dungeons and Dragons! Pencil and dice that was so popular, it eventually made its way onto game systems. ;)JediRiff

i have to say you did your research but nobody remebers Gary Gygax or at least i dont remeber, i was gonna say final fantasy 1 for the original nintendo being the grandaddy, but you got me there, but i cant really say d and d seeing that it was a real life game

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[QUOTE="JediRiff"]WRPGs. Not to mention, if it wasnt for WRPGs, there would be no JRPGs. Dont forget the granddaddy of them all, started back in the 70s by Gary Gygax.... Dungeons and Dragons! Pencil and dice that was so popular, it eventually made its way onto game systems. ;)Animal-Mother

i have to say you did your research but nobody remebers Gary Gygax or at least i dont remeber, i was gonna say final fantasy 1 for the original nintendo being the grandaddy, but you got me there, but i cant really say d and d seeing that it was a real life game

:roll: Wrpgs began their life on computers in the 70's
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[QUOTE="JediRiff"]WRPGs. Not to mention, if it wasnt for WRPGs, there would be no JRPGs. Dont forget the granddaddy of them all, started back in the 70s by Gary Gygax.... Dungeons and Dragons! Pencil and dice that was so popular, it eventually made its way onto game systems. ;)Animal-Mother

i have to say you did your research but nobody remebers Gary Gygax or at least i dont remeber, i was gonna say final fantasy 1 for the original nintendo being the grandaddy, but you got me there, but i cant really say d and d seeing that it was a real life game

Hehe... actually, I didnt do research on that... I lived it! I got the basic companions set for D&D back in 1982, and I was 12 at the time. That was my introduction to RPGs. I have been hooked ever since. I feel the comparison is valid, because if it wasnt for that, we wouldnt have what we have today, be it WRPGs or JRPGs. Its all about the roots! If this were a geneology tree, the base of the tree would be Dungeons and Dragons by the great Gary Gygax. The man basically paved the way for all our RPG fun today.

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JRPGS.......I prefer a game with an awesome story. 40+ hrs of game play anf fun battle system.
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#32 BambooBanger
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I love both.

WRPG's are progressing at a much faster rate than JRPG's though, in all aspects.

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I haven't played too many of either, although I like both. I prefer WRPGs from what I have played though.
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#34 strahd01
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I loved jrpgs back in the psx days i dunno they just lost their way somewhere in the ps2 days i think its the map system i hate how linear it got. Back in the days of ffvii you had a open map you could go anywhere that was open, then ffx came along and it was gone. i dunno. wrpgs offer a better weapon and armor customization it offers skills to open lock doors and to charm people in conversations, it offers more unique magic some wrpgs like oblivion allow you to make spells armor and weapons its just more freedom. jrpg will always have a place; they helped me when graphicial adventure games died back in the 90s they where a good choice but now i just can't seem to play them i get so bored constantly equipping the best armor i find and just doing nothing but fighting then watching a video then shop then fight then watch then shop etc..
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ya i really miss the open ended VII & VIII days but it sorta came back with 12, being not so linear, and more open to go do what you will and explore more
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="JediRiff"]WRPGs. Not to mention, if it wasnt for WRPGs, there would be no JRPGs. Dont forget the granddaddy of them all, started back in the 70s by Gary Gygax.... Dungeons and Dragons! Pencil and dice that was so popular, it eventually made its way onto game systems. ;)blue_hazy_basic

i have to say you did your research but nobody remebers Gary Gygax or at least i dont remeber, i was gonna say final fantasy 1 for the original nintendo being the grandaddy, but you got me there, but i cant really say d and d seeing that it was a real life game

:roll: Wrpgs began their life on computers in the 70's

The first one I can remember on a computer (other than pure word based adventures) would have been Wizardry. I can remember it on the.... Apple IIe. Or was it the Apple IIc? Im not sure off the top of my head, but it was one of those.

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="JediRiff"]WRPGs. Not to mention, if it wasnt for WRPGs, there would be no JRPGs. Dont forget the granddaddy of them all, started back in the 70s by Gary Gygax.... Dungeons and Dragons! Pencil and dice that was so popular, it eventually made its way onto game systems. ;)JediRiff

i have to say you did your research but nobody remebers Gary Gygax or at least i dont remeber, i was gonna say final fantasy 1 for the original nintendo being the grandaddy, but you got me there, but i cant really say d and d seeing that it was a real life game

:roll: Wrpgs began their life on computers in the 70's

The first one I can remember on a computer (other than pure word based adventures) would have been Wizardry. I can remember it on the.... Apple IIe. Or was it the Apple IIc? Im not sure off the top of my head, but it was one of those.

There were text games and MUD's (multi user dungeons for the uniformed) before that.
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not to offend you guys but how old are you , if you know all this stuff
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not to offend you guys but how old are you , if you know all this stuffAnimal-Mother

haha let me put it like this, I'm the wrong side of 30! I've been gaming since around 1979 :o!!!

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Here is an exmaple of what WRPG's will offer in time, look at those Fable 2 blogs i found

http://labwarrior.gametrailers.com/gamepad/index.php?action=viewblog&id=208374

http://labwarrior.gametrailers.com/gamepad/index.php?action=viewblog&id=177437

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Here is an exmaple of what WRPG's will offer in time, look at those Fable 2 blogs i found

http://labwarrior.gametrailers.com/gamepad/index.php?action=viewblog&id=208374

http://labwarrior.gametrailers.com/gamepad/index.php?action=viewblog&id=177437

saolin323
I'm not convince Fable 2 will be a proper RPG, the first one certainly wasn't.
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Wrpgs its not the same cliche every time. like in most jrpgs you gotta save a damsel in distress, and sometimes you get weird characters like the chick that looks like a living playboy bunny i FF12
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JRPG all the way...
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[QUOTE="saolin323"]

Here is an exmaple of what WRPG's will offer in time, look at those Fable 2 blogs i found

http://labwarrior.gametrailers.com/gamepad/index.php?action=viewblog&id=208374

http://labwarrior.gametrailers.com/gamepad/index.php?action=viewblog&id=177437

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I'm not convince Fable 2 will be a proper RPG, the first one certainly wasn't.

Why wan Fable 1 not a true RPG ? It had a proper upgradable hero, armors, good/evil paths, quests that were great in their lore and unique, amazing magic and combos in battle, huge exploration, riddles that most RPG's never have, could buy whole cities too, kill anything, open the roads to merchants, kill huge beasts etc etc

What in your opinion makes it a non RPG ?

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

Here is an exmaple of what WRPG's will offer in time, look at those Fable 2 blogs i found

http://labwarrior.gametrailers.com/gamepad/index.php?action=viewblog&id=208374

http://labwarrior.gametrailers.com/gamepad/index.php?action=viewblog&id=177437

saolin323

I'm not convince Fable 2 will be a proper RPG, the first one certainly wasn't.

Why wan Fable 1 not a true RPG ? It had a proper upgradable hero, armors, good/evil paths, quests that were great in their lore and unique, amazing magic and combos in battle, huge exploration, riddles that most RPG's never have, could buy whole cities too, kill anything, open the roads to merchants, kill huge beasts etc etc

What in your opinion makes it a non RPG ?

no roleplaying
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[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

Here is an exmaple of what WRPG's will offer in time, look at those Fable 2 blogs i found

http://labwarrior.gametrailers.com/gamepad/index.php?action=viewblog&id=208374

http://labwarrior.gametrailers.com/gamepad/index.php?action=viewblog&id=177437

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I'm not convince Fable 2 will be a proper RPG, the first one certainly wasn't.

Why wan Fable 1 not a true RPG ? It had a proper upgradable hero, armors, good/evil paths, quests that were great in their lore and unique, amazing magic and combos in battle, huge exploration, riddles that most RPG's never have, could buy whole cities too, kill anything, open the roads to merchants, kill huge beasts etc etc

What in your opinion makes it a non RPG ?

no roleplaying

Could you be a bit more specific ???

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

Here is an exmaple of what WRPG's will offer in time, look at those Fable 2 blogs i found

http://labwarrior.gametrailers.com/gamepad/index.php?action=viewblog&id=208374

http://labwarrior.gametrailers.com/gamepad/index.php?action=viewblog&id=177437

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I'm not convince Fable 2 will be a proper RPG, the first one certainly wasn't.

Why wan Fable 1 not a true RPG ? It had a proper upgradable hero, armors, good/evil paths, quests that were great in their lore and unique, amazing magic and combos in battle, huge exploration, riddles that most RPG's never have, could buy whole cities too, kill anything, open the roads to merchants, kill huge beasts etc etc

What in your opinion makes it a non RPG ?

no roleplaying

Could you be a bit more specific ???

swamped at work right now hence the terse answers.

Very briefly using what you said as a definition does it really differ much from say GTA?

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[QUOTE="JediRiff"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="JediRiff"]WRPGs. Not to mention, if it wasnt for WRPGs, there would be no JRPGs. Dont forget the granddaddy of them all, started back in the 70s by Gary Gygax.... Dungeons and Dragons! Pencil and dice that was so popular, it eventually made its way onto game systems. ;)blue_hazy_basic

i have to say you did your research but nobody remebers Gary Gygax or at least i dont remeber, i was gonna say final fantasy 1 for the original nintendo being the grandaddy, but you got me there, but i cant really say d and d seeing that it was a real life game

:roll: Wrpgs began their life on computers in the 70's

The first one I can remember on a computer (other than pure word based adventures) would have been Wizardry. I can remember it on the.... Apple IIe. Or was it the Apple IIc? Im not sure off the top of my head, but it was one of those.

There were text games and MUD's (multi user dungeons for the uniformed) before that.

Yeah, thats what I was talking about with the word based adventure part. Wasnt one of them called.... something like Wombat or something? However, I am 99% sure all of that came after the pencil and dice versions of D&D and AD&D. Animal-Mother, I am 37.

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WRPGs

After playing FFX, I can no longer stand metrosexual, feminine RPGs.

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After playing FFX, I can no longer stand metrosexual, feminine RPGs.

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Too bad Final Fantasy isn't representive of the entirety of the JRPG genre. Thats like saying all FPS heroes wear green armour and have little to no personality. Its just flat out wrong.