Do You Prefer WRPG's Or JRPG's?

[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"]i still think Chrono Trigger has the best battle system out of any RPG.stika

To a certain degree. I've tried games like Neverwinter Nights but I didn't really like it and found it to be really boring and bland. Then I've played MMORPGs but thats not really the same thing i guess. To be honest the best RPGs I've played on the PC were ports from consoles (FFVII, FFVIII, KotOR). I guess I've always been more of a console RPGer... Then again The Witcher looks pretty good and I kind of want to try that one.

Neverwinter night´s strenght is in the option to make your own adventure using your toolset and then playing that adventure you created online, its really fun that way

I don't really like how you move around in it though. It just irritates me.

JPRPGs are RPGs on training wheelsTheOwnerOner

beat emerald and ruby weapon and then tell me that.

[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]JPRPGs are RPGs on training wheelsGunblade20

beat emerald and ruby weapon and then tell me that.

I remember those guys... they were difficult ones...

[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]JPRPGs are RPGs on training wheelsGunblade20

beat emerald and ruby weapon and then tell me that.

that´s not what he meant

[QUOTE="stika"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"]i still think Chrono Trigger has the best battle system out of any RPG.Zero5000X

To a certain degree. I've tried games like Neverwinter Nights but I didn't really like it and found it to be really boring and bland. Then I've played MMORPGs but thats not really the same thing i guess. To be honest the best RPGs I've played on the PC were ports from consoles (FFVII, FFVIII, KotOR). I guess I've always been more of a console RPGer... Then again The Witcher looks pretty good and I kind of want to try that one.

Neverwinter night´s strenght is in the option to make your own adventure using your toolset and then playing that adventure you created online, its really fun that way

I don't really like how you move around in it though. It just irritates me.

personally i really like the way you move on that game, by the way which NWN did you play? 1? 2? and with which expansions?

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[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]JPRPGs are RPGs on training wheelsZero5000X

beat emerald and ruby weapon and then tell me that.

I remember those guys... they were difficult ones...

especially emerald. when i 1st beat the sub-marine part and saw him in the ocean i didn't know what he was and tried to fight him.....that was a horrible beating. lol

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"]i still think Chrono Trigger has the best battle system out of any RPG.Zero5000X

To a certain degree. I've tried games like Neverwinter Nights but I didn't really like it and found it to be really boring and bland. Then I've played MMORPGs but thats not really the same thing i guess. To be honest the best RPGs I've played on the PC were ports from consoles (FFVII, FFVIII, KotOR). I guess I've always been more of a console RPGer... Then again The Witcher looks pretty good and I kind of want to try that one.

Isn't Baldur's Gate pretty much Neverwinter Nights except older? It looks very similar atleast...

[QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="Gunblade20"]

[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]JPRPGs are RPGs on training wheelsGunblade20

beat emerald and ruby weapon and then tell me that.

I remember those guys... they were difficult ones...

especially emerald. when i 1st beat the sub-marine part and saw him in the ocean i didn't know what he was and tried to fight him.....that was a horrible beating. lol

same thing happened to me.

JRPGs>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>WRPGS

Actually only Jrpgs are real Rpgs for me.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"]i still think Chrono Trigger has the best battle system out of any RPG.Zero5000X

To a certain degree. I've tried games like Neverwinter Nights but I didn't really like it and found it to be really boring and bland. Then I've played MMORPGs but thats not really the same thing i guess. To be honest the best RPGs I've played on the PC were ports from consoles (FFVII, FFVIII, KotOR). I guess I've always been more of a console RPGer... Then again The Witcher looks pretty good and I kind of want to try that one.

Isn't Baldur's Gate pretty much Neverwinter Nights except older? It looks very similar atleast...

Only on gamespot would people think WRPGS are better than JRPGS/greenleaf2000

I agree the World knows that FF7 Owns every last Wrpg ever made.

[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]JPRPGs are RPGs on training wheelsGunblade20

beat emerald and ruby weapon and then tell me that.

Only on gamespot would people think WRPGS are better than JRPGS/greenleaf2000

i would comment on your post... but your signature says all i needed to know, just go back to your linear overly dramatic 10 hour long cut-scenes filled with androgenous emo characters

i see myself playing JRPG's most of time, and that is because i really hate anything that involves castles, medieval stuff etc. Buti consider KOTOR the best rpg ever and i really enjoyed the second one and so i did enjoy Jade Empire for obvious reasons.

Only on gamespot would people think WRPGS are better than JRPGS/greenleaf2000

WRPG by a million bajillion miles.

I prefer WRPGs, because I'm more a fan of non-linear gameplay and storytelling. I also like how WRPGs often give you a much larger license to customise and create characters.

That's not to say I don't like JRPGs, but I've always found it odd RPGs are the only genre we subdivide on geographical lines.

Only on gamespot would people think WRPGS are better than JRPGS/greenleaf2000

only console fanboys would think jRPGs are better than wRPGs ;)

Seriously, stop trolling.

[QUOTE="greenleaf2000"]Only on gamespot would people think WRPGS are better than JRPGS/AdrianWerner

only console fanboys would think jRPGs are better than wRPGs ;)

Seriously, stop trolling.

Indeed, while i am a console fanboy :), i LOVE WRPGS far more then the confined experiences of JRPGS

If you see what theyplan todo with Fable 2, you will know JRPG's are nothing comparing, even the best of them

Here is a taste od what could be the best RPG of all time for me, and is definatly not a JRPG

http://labwarrior.gametrailers.com/gamepad/index.php?action=viewblog&id=208374

http://labwarrior.gametrailers.com/gamepad/index.php?action=viewblog&id=177437

Also, i drool at what they will present us in Mass Effect 2-3 and Gothic 4, Fallout 3too !!

Both, and/or neither, depending on your preferences. I don't look at a particular "RPG" and say, "This is a WRPG, so I'll buy it, or not," or "This is a JRPG, so I hate it or not." If I see Mass Effect II or Final Fantasy XIV, I'll say, "I WANT THEM!" It doesn't matter to me; I'm a fan of both, and I prefer neither to the other, because both subgenres have their strengths and weaknesses...

To me, most WRPGs are dry on the story, VERY dry on the story; however, the actual Role Playing aspects are strong... Whereas, in a JRPG, the story tends to be there, it can be cliche or epic, but it's there and not disjointed like in an WRPG, but the "Role Playing" is non existent, you are essentially NOT "Role Playing" in JRPGs, because it's linear. Either way, I enjoy both, so it works for me. I can play both without being bias to the other..

Both, and/or neither, depending on your preferences. I don't look at a particular "RPG" and say, "This is a WRPG, so I'll buy it, or not," or "This is a JRPG, so I hate it or not." If I see Mass Effect II or Final Fantasy XIV, I'll say, "I WANT THEM!" It doesn't matter to me; I'm a fan of both, and I prefer neither to the other, because both subgenres have their strengths and weaknesses...

To me, most WRPGs are dry on the story, VERY dry on the story; however, the actual Role Playing aspects are strong... Whereas, in a JRPG, the story tends to be there, it can be cliche or epic, but it's there and not disjointed like in an WRPG, but the "Role Playing" is non existent, you are essentially NOT "Role Playing" in JRPGs, because it's linear. Either way, I enjoy both, so it works for me. I can play both without being bias to the other..

Cerberus_Legion

I am like you, with a small difference, i always enjoy playing a good WRPG more due to more freedom and more involving gameplay than a JRPG, while i LOVE playing bot kinds indeed, but the feeling in WRPG's i get is just more .... superior, more fullfilling, than the confined JRPG's that can get VEY tedious some times

WRPGs offer freedom, but what good is that freedom if there is no coherent or decent story to absorb yourself into, creating all the decisions to flesh that story out in a well crafted manner? That is the main flaw I see.. There have been exceptions, but most are like this. Same with JRPGs, but instead of the story, it's the linear fashion in which it's structured and the way you have no control over your characters' choices and morals, instead following a linear path. As an avid "RPG" gamer, I came across two exceptions to both of these overall generalizations, one from seven years ago and one that I'm playing now; Chrono Cross and Mass Effect, respectively. Two examples of what both subgenres can do, but that's just my opinion. Even so, ME's story is a little on the dry side too, and CC is linear, but not in a confined way, as there are choices within the game that affect the outcome and how characters can perceive your "Main" character.

If WRPGs can focus on the story, and JRPGs can focus on the linearity, I can imagine the possibilities.. An RPG game with an engrossing story, full customization of your character, morality and ethic choices that affect both the outcome and how the game is played, as well as possibilities of multiple battle systems to fit the players' needs.. Meh, tis only a dream..

This is such a pointless battle. All because two completely different genres have been mistakenly named the same thing.

WRPG lovers argue: "JRPGs sux!! They are so linear!!"

yet those same gamers probably love HL2, which is completely linear. The problem arises because it's called an RPG, so they expect it to be non-linear.

JRPG lovers argue: "WRPGs sux!! They have such weak stories!!"

Yet they probably love other games with crap stories, such as Super Smash Bros or Mario. Again, they only find a problem because they are expecting something that was never intended to be there.

Imagine if platformers and FPS's were both known as "Gloop". Third person Gloop fans would hate first person gloop games for having no variety. First person Gloop fans would hate the 3rd person gloop games for having weak combat and childish graphics. They could spend years arguing over it.

This is what the WRPG/JRPG debate looks like from the outside. I do not think that is an exaggerated analogy - the difference between WRPGs and JRPGs really is about as large as the difference between shooters and platformers.

So please, don't bring up this tired argument again. It should never have started in the first place.

This is such a pointless battle. All because two completely different genres have been mistakenly named the same thing.

chutup

This comment really kills the thread.

Only on gamespot would people think WRPGS are better than JRPGS/greenleaf2000

Well, the truth of the matter is... to each their own. I grew up on WRPGs, and I prefer WRPGs. It has nothing to do with Gamespot. My two biggest gripes with JRPGs are this: It seems the majority of them have androgenous characters where you cannot tell if they are male or female, and the biggest one is harder for me to describe. I hate the little pokemon weird characters that act so blasted silly all the time. Example, look at Blue Dragon. When I played the demo, you had this little yellow monk guy that looked like he was wearing a wok on his head, and chirped when he won a battle. Those kind of characters, which seem prevelant in alot of JRPGs, irritate the hell out of me. I'm not going to knock anyone who likes JRPGs, again its personal preference, but those two things drive me batty and completely push me away from the games usually.

i see myself playing JRPG's most of time, and that is because i really hate anything that involves castles, medieval stuff etc. Buti consider KOTOR the best rpg ever and i really enjoyed the second one and so i did enjoy Jade Empire for obvious reasons.

Kiuk

As did I, Kiuk. You would really, really enjoy Mass Effect.

JRPG's suck. I may give Lost Odyssey a chance though.TMontana1004

Only on gamespot would people think WRPGS are better than JRPGS/greenleaf2000

Only on gamespot do you get ignorant consolites who have never experienced a proper RPG and think they know everything and that no-one else's opinion is valid.

I hope you enjoy your 8 hr long games with no replay value that the blu ray has brought you.

if final fantasy 13 is 8 hours, i might goto squenix with a flame thrower in hands, every ff game i;'ve played has been at least 100 hoursAnimal-Mother

Its not out yet, and probably won't be until 09

JRPGs by a long long way... they've actaully got stories that are not all generic LOTR clones (orcs and elves) and you have individual characters with personalities and "style"... and they actually are varied in their systems rather than just repeating the same themes over and over. They dont just chuck you in the middle of nowhere and call it "freedom"

Im probably the only one, but i love both JRPGS and WRPGS.

I honestly couldnt just pick one, although i might slgihty enjoy wrpgs a little more, but they are pretty even for me.