Do You Prefer WRPG's Or JRPG's?

I'm not by any means saying that "WRPGs are bad games" cause I dont think they are... I just like JRPGs a lot more, a lot less generic

I prefer a great story with solid gameplay. As long as those two feature, I couldn't care less which kind it is.

FF7 is my favorite RPG of all time, because of the story, but I definitely prefer WRPGs. Action RPGs too. I hope the release of Diablo 3 fuels a ton of new Diablo clones. Consoles in particular need a game like Diablo. jjenkins78x

Check out Divine Divinity if your as big of a diablo fan as i am man (:

I cant wait for Diablo3 and Divine Divinity2!

JRPGs by a long long way... they've actaully got stories that are not all generic LOTR clones (orcs and elves) and you have individual characters with personalities and "style"... and they actually are varied in their systems rather than just repeating the same themes over and over. They dont just chuck you in the middle of nowhere and call it "freedom"

Velocity_Eleven

why do those games want a word with me?

JRPGs. I've tried to enjoy WRPGs, went for the apparently best of the best such asthe originalFallout and Planescape Torment, but none of them have been able to hold me attention for very long. I guess they're just not my type of game.

why do those games want a word with me?

Velocity_Eleven

I've never played a WRPG. Mostly because I just don't like the art style in them so I've never been attracted to them.

why do those games want a word with me?

Velocity_Eleven

You stepped into his 'hood'. Look at robbie's sig + avatar lol.

JRPGs have an established place for me, but WRPGs are starting to take ground for me. I had never given a crap about WRPGs, but after playing fallout 3 my eyes are starting to open. But for now, JRPGs > WRPGs.

well, you also got the WRPGs that are in the future with guns and stuff... but that doesnt change that its a pain to look at, I seriously cant take them seriously enough, when every character tries to be "super serious" I find it rather absurd

PC - WRPGand dating-sims (choices and consequences...)
PSx / PS2 - JRPG
OVerall, I prefer tabletop (make your own choices)

I'm not by any means saying that "WRPGs are bad games" cause I dont think they are... I just like JRPGs a lot more, a lot less generic

Velocity_Eleven

similarities? of al the JRPGs Ive played I dont recall there being any similarities, none that are worthy of mentioning anyway

I played oblivion and hated it and played mass effect and loved it. Overall i prefer JRPGs a whole lot more. The only current WRPG i like is mass effect. However i also like old WRPGs such as Star Control 2, baldurs gate and diablo. Star Control 2 is probably my favourite RPG though.

similarities? of al the JRPGs Ive played I dont recall there being any similarities, none that are worthy of mentioning anyway

Velocity_Eleven

I prefer JRPGs

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similarities? of al the JRPGs Ive played I dont recall there being any similarities, none that are worthy of mentioning anyway

Nirron

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similarities? of al the JRPGs Ive played I dont recall there being any similarities, none that are worthy of mentioning anyway

Nirron

I've heard the "spikey hair" and "effeminate male" arguments before, both of which are not true... I mean, lets look at even just final fantasy for example (as it's the prime suspect of this type of critisism), how many of those main characters characters have spikey hair?

Firion? No
Luneth? No
Cecil? No
Bartz? Not really
Terra? No
Cloud? Yes
Squall? No
Zidane? No
Tidus? No
Vaan? No

And as for effeminate, well only Vaan and Kuja that I can think of

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similarities? of al the JRPGs Ive played I dont recall there being any similarities, none that are worthy of mentioning anyway

Cherokee_Jack

JRPG by continents, oceans, and whole worlds. Most WRPGs have uninteresting characters and terrible stories imo.

JRPG by continents, oceans, and whole worlds. Most WRPGs have uninteresting characters and terrible stories imo.

Bigboi500

Most ridiculous post I've read all week. And most jrpgs don't have horrible characters and stories?

Oh, please. With the exception of very few do any jrpgs even come within a mile of Planescape Torments story or characters.

There are more wrpgs with good stories and characters than jrpgs.

How many jrpgs have less than fifteen of the cliches listed:http://project-apollo.net/text/rpg.html

Most wrpgs have terrible stories and characters.......and jrpgs don't, yeah right. :roll:

Love both, but JRPGS have been awful this gen.

I'm not quite sure how you inferred that me calling it hyperbole meant that they never actually occur multiple times.Nirron

You said: "Of course both are completely untrue,"

Which seems to indicate that you think they're rare or something, but from my perspective the genre is absolutely bursting with them. And I'm not even talking about FF here.

I'm fully aware that not every JRPG uses cliches, but I also realize that the majority do.

[QUOTE="Nirron"]I'm not quite sure how you inferred that me calling it hyperbole meant that they never actually occur multiple times.Cherokee_Jack

You said: "Of course both are completely untrue,"

Which seems to indicate that you think they're rare or something, but from my perspective the genre is absolutely bursting with them. And I'm not even talking about FF here.

I'm fully aware that not every JRPG uses cliches, but I also realize that the majority do.

Allow me to rephrase: "People make WRPGs and JRPGs appear to use the same few elements in every single game, when the actual occurence is far less"Nirron

I like JRPGs much more than WRPGs because of better story/character development, artistic style, and combat systems.

I like JRPGs much more than WRPGs because of better story/character development, artistic style, and combat systems.

Gxgear

I think they're about equal in that regard.

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JRPG by continents, oceans, and whole worlds. Most WRPGs have uninteresting characters and terrible stories imo.

redCloudJ7

Most ridiculous post I've read all week. And most jrpgs don't have horrible characters and stories?

Oh, please. With the exception of very few do any jrpgs even come within a mile of Planescape Torments story or characters.

There are more wrpgs with good stories and characters than jrpgs.

How many jrpgs have less than fifteen of the cliches listed:http://project-apollo.net/text/rpg.html

Most wrpgs have terrible stories and characters.......and jrpgs don't, yeah right. :roll:

That list is a load of nonsence, on most occasions I could think of 1 example of each of those. And the ones that are frequent are as stupid as "in platform games you jump" such as the one where it said there is a boss harder than the final boss that is hidden somewhere... well, of course, thats a good game feature, if there was no hidden bosses that are harder than the final boss then that's just lame

That list is a load of nonsence, on most occasions I could think of 1 example of each of those.Velocity_Eleven

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I like JRPGs much more than WRPGs because of better story/character development, artistic style, and combat systems.

Cherokee_Jack

I think they're about equal in that regard.

Barely any in Fallout 3 and Oblivion.

The Witcher's pretty good though.

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I like JRPGs much more than WRPGs because of better story/character development, artistic style, and combat systems.

Gxgear

I think they're about equal in that regard.

Barely any in Fallout 3 and Oblivion.

Bethesda isn't too big on that sort of thing. Try Bioware games, or anything based on P&P RPGs (like Planescape: Torment) for a real story.

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JRPG by continents, oceans, and whole worlds. Most WRPGs have uninteresting characters and terrible stories imo.

redCloudJ7

Most ridiculous post I've read all week. And most jrpgs don't have horrible characters and stories?

Oh, please. With the exception of very few do any jrpgs even come within a mile of Planescape Torments story or characters.

There are more wrpgs with good stories and characters than jrpgs.

How many jrpgs have less than fifteen of the cliches listed:http://project-apollo.net/text/rpg.html

Most wrpgs have terrible stories and characters.......and jrpgs don't, yeah right. :roll:

[QUOTE="Velocity_Eleven"]That list is a load of nonsence, on most occasions I could think of 1 example of each of those.Cherokee_Jack

Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy II
Final Fantasy III
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2
Final Fantasy XII
Crisis Core
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Dragon Quest
Dragon Quest VIII
Atelier Iris 2
Breath Of Fire III
Breath Of Fire Dragon Quarter
Dark Cloud
Dark Chronicle
Disgaea
Disgaea 2
Disgaea 3
Kingdom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts II
Magnacarta
Makai Kingdom
Odin Sphere
Phantasy Star Universe
Phantom Brave
Rogue Galaxy
Shadow Hearts
Shaodw Hearts Covenant
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga 2
Shin Megami Tensei: Lucifer's Call
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 FES
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner: Raidou Kuzunoha Vs The Soulless Army
Soul Nomad And The World Eaters
Star Ocean: First Departure
Star Ocean: Till The End Of Time
Suikoden
Suikoden II
Suikoden IV
Suikoden V
Valkyrie Profile
Valkyrie Profile 2
Ys: The Ark Of Napishtim
Eternal Sonata
Azure Dreams
Tao's Adventure
Etrian Odyssey
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Blue Rescue Team
Faxanadu

and some of the early pokemon games... I might be missing a few, but that's all i can think of right now

this seems very unfair, JRPGs are mostly limited Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, and the millions of clones of those games, and some good ones. While WRPGs can be first person adventure games like Elder Scrolls, online games like World of Warcraft, action and and intense like Diablo, or even.... actually role playing like Fallout 1 and 2.Nerkcon

when I look at a game, I go beyond whats on the surface... I'm not bothered about whether the game is action, turn based, random battles, first person etc. cause to me that's just at face value... I always look into the deeper areas, such as how skills are developed, how things are dependant on other things, how easily can things be modified. For example i would usually not be as satified with something that's "you level up, and therefore learn the heal spell". I would much prefer something with more depth to it such as if you could modify character's abilities at the expense of something else, and have all these wacky ways of modifying your characters

For me it used to be all about the JRPGs

Final Fantasy, Star Ocean, Shadow Hearts, Dragon Quest...

But lately I've enjoyed WRPGs much much more.

I've been playing WRPG since 1982. WRPG all the way.ktchong

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