Do you think Crysis like graphics are possible at the end of PS3/360 cycle?

Just wondering, what do you guys think? Say in 2011 how much of the systems powers will be tapped, and what kind of graphics will we be seeing? Thanks.

.... this "tapped power" nonsense again. They will look next to nothing better than they currently do.Meu2k7

I disagree with this assertion. I won't delve into the nomenclature of "tapped power" but devs will get better at optimizing for both consoles. Both consoles will have better looking games by 2011. How much remains to be seen.

.... this "tapped power" nonsense again. They will look next to nothing better than they currently do.Meu2k7

im very impressed with Far Cry 2 demos. Thats shows some major improvement.

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"].... this "tapped power" nonsense again. They will look next to nothing better than they currently do.dhjohns

I disagree with this assertion. I won't delve into the nomenclature of "tapped power" but devs will get better at optimizing for both consoles. Both consoles will have better looking games by 2011. How much remains to be seen.

Indeed, hence why I said "Next to nothing" ... 5-10% at tops... Gears of War to Gears of War 2 ... slightly smoother.

Optmization only goes so far, the hardware limits will keep it well below Crysis, and games such as Empire Total War.

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"].... this "tapped power" nonsense again. They will look next to nothing better than they currently do.Coredog777

im very impressed with Far Cry 2 demos. Thats shows some major improvement.

no doubt, but some things are just not possible on consoles. you can see in the demo it has the classic console game background bluring.

Besides, looking back at past console generations, the 2 straggelers drop support earlier than the market leader, the PS3 and Xbox360 will drop out much sooner than the Wii.

2011? end of the life line, I expect most brilliant 3rd party developers to me preparing for Xbox720/PS4/ Nvidia 11800 by that point.

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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"].... this "tapped power" nonsense again. They will look next to nothing better than they currently do.Meu2k7

I disagree with this assertion. I won't delve into the nomenclature of "tapped power" but devs will get better at optimizing for both consoles. Both consoles will have better looking games by 2011. How much remains to be seen.

Indeed, hence why I said "Next to nothing" ... 5-10% at tops... Gears of War to Gears of War 2 ... slightly smoother.

Optmization only goes so far, the hardware limits will keep it well below Crysis, and games such as Empire Total War.

Completely agree with the last statement. "Crysis like"should not be allowed to be uttered by consolites.

In my opinion, not quite but the gap will have closed a bit, besides it's not like there is that huge of a difference in visuals between games like Uncharted/Call of Duty 4/Assassin's Creed and Crysis.Zerostatic0

Graphics are a opinion so...Hopkins_J

In my opinion, not quite but the gap will have closed a bit, besides it's not like there is that huge of a difference in visuals between games like Uncharted/Call of Duty 4/Assassin's Creed and Crysis.Zerostatic0

Actually... it's a huge difference if you have played it. I try not to sound biased... but I really don't think I am, seeing as I've played all those games you've mentioned on 99th percentile setup.

In my opinion, not quite but the gap will have closed a bit, besides it's not like there is that huge of a difference in visuals between games like Uncharted/Call of Duty 4/Assassin's Creed and Crysis.Zerostatic0

Ohhhh yes there is, coming from someone who has both PC versions of Assa Creed and Call of Duty 4 and Crysis.

[QUOTE="Zerostatic0"]In my opinion, not quite but the gap will have closed a bit, besides it's not like there is that huge of a difference in visuals between games like Uncharted/Call of Duty 4/Assassin's Creed and Crysis.rimnet00

Actually... it's a huge difference if you have played it. I try not to sound biased... but I really don't think I am, seeing as I've played all those games you've mentioned on 99th percentile setup.

Mine's better than yours, because my TV is better, my monitor is better, and I don't have a Wii or Xbox 360 to detract from them.

No chance. My PC can handle very high on Crysis and i also have my 360 hooked up to my monitor, nothing on the 360 looks anywhere near as nice as Crysis, and i doubt anything ever will on this generation of consoles

Probably expect to see Crysis graphics on the PS4 and xbox [whatever number here]

[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="Zerostatic0"]In my opinion, not quite but the gap will have closed a bit, besides it's not like there is that huge of a difference in visuals between games like Uncharted/Call of Duty 4/Assassin's Creed and Crysis.Thompsonwhore

Actually... it's a huge difference if you have played it. I try not to sound biased... but I really don't think I am, seeing as I've played all those games you've mentioned on 99th percentile setup.

Mine's better than yours, because my TV is better, my monitor is better, and I don't have a Wii or Xbox 360 to detract from them.

That's a Samsung 71F series LCD...

No. Maybe next gen. PS3 and 360 don't have enough ram. There are also other issues at play, but I see this as the main reason why this won't happen.dhjohns

Maybe next gen?? You must be kidding!!!! When a console comes out, the graphics are better than the PC. At 2011/2012 crysis will be a 5 years old game...

[QUOTE="Thompsonwhore"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="Zerostatic0"]In my opinion, not quite but the gap will have closed a bit, besides it's not like there is that huge of a difference in visuals between games like Uncharted/Call of Duty 4/Assassin's Creed and Crysis.rimnet00

Actually... it's a huge difference if you have played it. I try not to sound biased... but I really don't think I am, seeing as I've played all those games you've mentioned on 99th percentile setup.

Mine's better than yours, because my TV is better, my monitor is better, and I don't have a Wii or Xbox 360 to detract from them.

That's a Samsung 71F series LCD...

I have a 60" LCoS.

Maybe next gen?? You must be kidding!!!! When a console comes out, the graphics are better than the PC. At 2011/2012 crysis will be a 5 years old game...

PAL360

We'll see. To say that the graphics of a next gen console are betetr than a PC at launch is determined by what a developer does with that next gen console. And like I said, while you people will just be enjoying your "Crysis", we'll have moved on to the next graphical marvel.

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Maybe next gen?? You must be kidding!!!! When a console comes out, the graphics are better than the PC. At 2011/2012 crysis will be a 5 years old game...

Jade_Monkey

We'll see. To say that the graphics of a next gen console are betetr than a PC at launch is determined by what a developer does with that next gen console. And like I said, while you people will just be enjoying your "Crysis", we'll have moved on to the next graphical marvel.

Oh lol, so much could be said here.

While you guys are enjoying the next level of graphics on the ever limited amount of genres on the PC, the consoles will still be the frontrunners of the game industry.

Oh lol, so much could be said here.

While you guys are enjoying the next level of graphics on the ever limited amount of genres on the PC, the consoles will still be the frontrunners of the game industry.

Vaan7

Ignorance is bliss so they say. So tell me, you one of them "PC is dying" types. You know the ones who have been predicting a moment for the past 15 years that has yet to happen for some strange reason.

you guys are so bad at history. who ever says that the ps 3 and 360 can't do crysis graphics are either so far up crysis butt or are new to gaming. remember the game god of war 2 (ps 2) or soul reaver (ps 1) ect. once these dev's find short cuts and find new ways to use these consoles tech to at least 80% of the cosoles ect. there are going to be games that will surppass crysis graphics in 3 to 4 years from now.

more so for 4 years from now pc games.

you guys are also saying that there will be nothing until next gen 5 to 6 years from now that nothing will look good as crysis means that any one that has played crysis will not wow at another game for at least 5 years from now is a very bad thing for alll gamers. but really this will not happen considering it never happened in the past or the history of gaming.

yes the pc will always ahead put not 5 to 6 years ahead.

you guys are so bad at history. who ever says that the ps 3 and 360 can't do crysis graphics are either so far up crysis butt or are new to gaming. remember the game god of war 2 (ps 2) or soul reaver (ps 1) ect. once these dev's find short cuts and find new ways to use these consoles tech to at least 80% of the cosoles ect. there are going to be games that will surppass crysis graphics in 3 to 4 years from now.

more so for 4 years from now pc games.

you guys are also saying that there will be nothing until next gen 5 to 6 years from now that nothing will look good as crysis means that any one that has played crysis will not wow at another game for at least 5 years from now is a very bad thing for alll gamers. but really this will not happen considering it never happened in the past or the history of gaming.

yes the pc will always ahead put not 5 to 6 years ahead.

GARRYTH

Ah yeah, the "untapped potential" of each console. Be sure to not hold your breath waiting for them to find it.

you guys are so bad at history. who ever says that the ps 3 and 360 can't do crysis graphics are either so far up crysis butt or are new to gaming. remember the game god of war 2 (ps 2) or soul reaver (ps 1) ect. once these dev's find short cuts and find new ways to use these consoles tech to at least 80% of the cosoles ect. there are going to be games that will surppass crysis graphics in 3 to 4 years from now.

more so for 4 years from now pc games.

you guys are also saying that there will be nothing until next gen 5 to 6 years from now that nothing will look good as crysis means that any one that has played crysis will not wow at another game for at least 5 years from now is a very bad thing for alll gamers. but really this will not happen considering it never happened in the past or the history of gaming.

yes the pc will always ahead put not 5 to 6 years ahead.

GARRYTH

Hardware in the past is different from hardware today. In the past, consoles were almost wholly proprietary. Today, they are more or less PCs. I'm sorry, but optimization you saw you in the past, won't have the same yields today or in the future.

[QUOTE="GARRYTH"]

you guys are so bad at history. who ever says that the ps 3 and 360 can't do crysis graphics are either so far up crysis butt or are new to gaming. remember the game god of war 2 (ps 2) or soul reaver (ps 1) ect. once these dev's find short cuts and find new ways to use these consoles tech to at least 80% of the cosoles ect. there are going to be games that will surppass crysis graphics in 3 to 4 years from now.

more so for 4 years from now pc games.

you guys are also saying that there will be nothing until next gen 5 to 6 years from now that nothing will look good as crysis means that any one that has played crysis will not wow at another game for at least 5 years from now is a very bad thing for alll gamers. but really this will not happen considering it never happened in the past or the history of gaming.

yes the pc will always ahead put not 5 to 6 years ahead.

Jade_Monkey

Ah yeah, the "untapped potential" of each console. Be sure to not hold your breath waiting for them to find it.

ahh i work at microsoft and one of the tech guys managed to emulate crysis on 360 hardware and played it fine....

i think we are forgetting about far cry 2 comming out if that isn't proof enough

[QUOTE="GARRYTH"]

you guys are so bad at history. who ever says that the ps 3 and 360 can't do crysis graphics are either so far up crysis butt or are new to gaming. remember the game god of war 2 (ps 2) or soul reaver (ps 1) ect. once these dev's find short cuts and find new ways to use these consoles tech to at least 80% of the cosoles ect. there are going to be games that will surppass crysis graphics in 3 to 4 years from now.

more so for 4 years from now pc games.

you guys are also saying that there will be nothing until next gen 5 to 6 years from now that nothing will look good as crysis means that any one that has played crysis will not wow at another game for at least 5 years from now is a very bad thing for alll gamers. but really this will not happen considering it never happened in the past or the history of gaming.

yes the pc will always ahead put not 5 to 6 years ahead.

rimnet00

Hardware in the past is different from hardware today. In the past, consoles were almost wholly proprietary. Today, they are more or less PCs. I'm sorry, but optimization you saw you in the past, won't have the same yields today or in the future.

[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="Zerostatic0"]In my opinion, not quite but the gap will have closed a bit, besides it's not like there is that huge of a difference in visuals between games like Uncharted/Call of Duty 4/Assassin's Creed and Crysis.Thompsonwhore

Actually... it's a huge difference if you have played it. I try not to sound biased... but I really don't think I am, seeing as I've played all those games you've mentioned on 99th percentile setup.

Mine's better than yours, because my TV is better, my monitor is better, and I don't have a Wii or Xbox 360 to detract from them.

Wow. :|

ahh i work at microsoft and one of the tech guys managed to emulate crysis on 360 hardware and played it fine....

i think we are forgetting about far cry 2 comming out if that isn't proof enough

lotrgamer7

Yeah! They do that with NES at nintendo.

[QUOTE="Thompsonwhore"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="Zerostatic0"]In my opinion, not quite but the gap will have closed a bit, besides it's not like there is that huge of a difference in visuals between games like Uncharted/Call of Duty 4/Assassin's Creed and Crysis.The_Game21x

Actually... it's a huge difference if you have played it. I try not to sound biased... but I really don't think I am, seeing as I've played all those games you've mentioned on 99th percentile setup.

Mine's better than yours, because my TV is better, my monitor is better, and I don't have a Wii or Xbox 360 to detract from them.

Wow. :|

I know, I have a fantastic setup.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Thompsonwhore"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="Zerostatic0"]In my opinion, not quite but the gap will have closed a bit, besides it's not like there is that huge of a difference in visuals between games like Uncharted/Call of Duty 4/Assassin's Creed and Crysis.Thompsonwhore

Actually... it's a huge difference if you have played it. I try not to sound biased... but I really don't think I am, seeing as I've played all those games you've mentioned on 99th percentile setup.

Mine's better than yours, because my TV is better, my monitor is better, and I don't have a Wii or Xbox 360 to detract from them.

Wow. :|

I know, I have a fantastic setup.

Yeah, okay buddy.