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[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="GARRYTH"]you guys are so bad at history. who ever says that the ps 3 and 360 can't do crysis graphics are either so far up crysis butt or are new to gaming. remember the game god of war 2 (ps 2) or soul reaver (ps 1) ect. once these dev's find short cuts and find new ways to use these consoles tech to at least 80% of the cosoles ect. there are going to be games that will surppass crysis graphics in 3 to 4 years from now.
more so for 4 years from now pc games.
you guys are also saying that there will be nothing until next gen 5 to 6 years from now that nothing will look good as crysis means that any one that has played crysis will not wow at another game for at least 5 years from now is a very bad thing for alll gamers. but really this will not happen considering it never happened in the past or the history of gaming.
yes the pc will always ahead put not 5 to 6 years ahead.
GARRYTH
Hardware in the past is different from hardware today. In the past, consoles were almost wholly proprietary. Today, they are more or less PCs. I'm sorry, but optimization you saw you in the past, won't have the same yields today or in the future.
well sence there more like pc then it should be easier now than in the past to get med. settings of a pc quality graphics.Since they are more like PCs, developers already know most of the optimization techniques going into it.
i dont know about crysis but farcry2 is very promising ,big free roaming world with vehicule and destuctible environement it maybe not crysis but its the next best thing so far . legol1
[QUOTE="GARRYTH"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="GARRYTH"]you guys are so bad at history. who ever says that the ps 3 and 360 can't do crysis graphics are either so far up crysis butt or are new to gaming. remember the game god of war 2 (ps 2) or soul reaver (ps 1) ect. once these dev's find short cuts and find new ways to use these consoles tech to at least 80% of the cosoles ect. there are going to be games that will surppass crysis graphics in 3 to 4 years from now.
more so for 4 years from now pc games.
you guys are also saying that there will be nothing until next gen 5 to 6 years from now that nothing will look good as crysis means that any one that has played crysis will not wow at another game for at least 5 years from now is a very bad thing for alll gamers. but really this will not happen considering it never happened in the past or the history of gaming.
yes the pc will always ahead put not 5 to 6 years ahead.
rimnet00
Hardware in the past is different from hardware today. In the past, consoles were almost wholly proprietary. Today, they are more or less PCs. I'm sorry, but optimization you saw you in the past, won't have the same yields today or in the future.
well sence there more like pc then it should be easier now than in the past to get med. settings of a pc quality graphics.Since they are more like PCs, developers already know most of the optimization techniques going into it.
Exactly. So now all those tricks that they came across before have been shoved into there faces in the beginning instead of having to find them out. Thats why graphics havent really eveloved that much on consoles this gen.
I dont know why everyone is so impressed with farcry2. Im still waiting to be blown away. STALKER: Clear SKies to me still looks like the game to own(FPS wise) this year for PC gamers. Doesnt mean I wont be picking up farcry2. Im just still yet to be wowed.
No. Maybe next gen. PS3 and 360 don't have enough ram. There are also other issues at play, but I see this as the main reason why this won't happen.dhjohns
maybe crysis like graphics in small evironments? that seems totally achievable, although it will ruin any kind of freedom and become a CoD4 clone in terms of linearity.
You don't think that they could make a hallway with Crysis' graphics?:x[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]Of course not._en1gma_
Wellllll, MAYBE a hallway. But even that is pushing it, Smokey.
Hmmmm... you might be right about that. Maybe they could do a tile with Crysis' graphics.:oYou don't think that they could make a hallway with Crysis' graphics?:x[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]Of course not.Meu2k7
Make it a small cube. in 420p
That would be amazing! :shock:[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]You don't think that they could make a hallway with Crysis' graphics?:x[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]Of course not.smokeydabear076
Make it a small cube. in 420p
That would be amazing! :shock:Maybe next genz there will be a stack of cubes in 720P!
It will be done, or else!:twisted: And when it is is finished it will be a sight to behold.Maybe next genz there will be a stack of cubes in 720P!
Meu2k7
No, you will not see graphics like Crysis on this generation. here's a funny thought, if you do see it on next generation us PC gamers will be enjoying the new "Crysis" graphics wonder whatever it may be.Jade_Monkey"Rage" or "Doom 4" ;)
[QUOTE="legol1"]i dont know about crysis but farcry2 is very promising ,big free roaming world with vehicule and destuctible environement it maybe not crysis but its the next best thing so far . foxhound_fox
Exactly. So now all those tricks that they came across before have been shoved into there faces in the beginning instead of having to find them out. Thats why graphics havent really eveloved that much on consoles this gen.
I dont know why everyone is so impressed with farcry2. Im still waiting to be blown away. STALKER: Clear SKies to me still looks like the game to own(FPS wise) this year for PC gamers. Doesnt mean I wont be picking up farcry2. Im just still yet to be wowed.
Killfox
Yep I agree, FC2's graphics really aren't that impressive and certainly aren't anything we havn't seen before (although consoles might not).
But back on topic, I honestly don't think graphics are going to improve hugely on consoles when devs are struggling to run games like CoD4 at anything like what medium settings look like on PC.
[QUOTE="Killfox"]Exactly. So now all those tricks that they came across before have been shoved into there faces in the beginning instead of having to find them out. Thats why graphics havent really eveloved that much on consoles this gen.
I dont know why everyone is so impressed with farcry2. Im still waiting to be blown away. STALKER: Clear SKies to me still looks like the game to own(FPS wise) this year for PC gamers. Doesnt mean I wont be picking up farcry2. Im just still yet to be wowed.
opethpwn
Yep I agree, FC2's graphics really aren't that impressive and certainly aren't anything we havn't seen before (although consoles might not).
But back on topic, I honestly don't think graphics are going to improve hugely on consoles when devs are struggling to run games like CoD4 at anything like what medium settings look like on PC.
Don't be dumb, COD4 on consoles run the same textures, detail, specular highlighting, etc that high does on PC but at a lower FPS/resolution.
Crysis could prob. done at medium settings @ 720p on consoles. Far Cry 2 and the avalache 2.0 engine featured in just cause 2 are proof of it.
[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="legol1"]i dont know about crysis but farcry2 is very promising ,big free roaming world with vehicule and destuctible environement it maybe not crysis but its the next best thing so far . legol1
And these environments are mostly-interactive with full physics calculations applied?Don't be dumb, COD4 on consoles run the same textures, detail, specular highlighting, etc that high does on PC but at a lower FPS/resolution.
Crysis could prob. done at medium settings @ 720p on consoles. Far Cry 2 and the avalache 2.0 engine featured in just cause 2 are proof of it.
Innovazero2000
you guys are so bad at history. who ever says that the ps 3 and 360 can't do crysis graphics are either so far up crysis butt or are new to gaming. remember the game god of war 2 (ps 2) or soul reaver (ps 1) ect. once these dev's find short cuts and find new ways to use these consoles tech to at least 80% of the cosoles ect. there are going to be games that will surppass crysis graphics in 3 to 4 years from now.
more so for 4 years from now pc games.
you guys are also saying that there will be nothing until next gen 5 to 6 years from now that nothing will look good as crysis means that any one that has played crysis will not wow at another game for at least 5 years from now is a very bad thing for alll gamers. but really this will not happen considering it never happened in the past or the history of gaming.
yes the pc will always ahead put not 5 to 6 years ahead.
GARRYTH
Look, I'm sick to death of hermits glorifying Crysis as well. But I have to be honest...this gen is different in the fact that consoles are beginning to get WAY BEHIND PCs in graphics. Sure, in past gens, during a final stretch before a new gen would begin, consoles would have graphics that could compete with PC graphics from a couple of years ago. The only time this gen consoles competed with PC graphics was at the very beginning of this gen...then PCs took a major leap forward in graphics...so big a leap that consoles will not catch up this gen. And it will only get worse I think. I am definitely not a hermit, but it really looks like consoles will not even come close to having Crysis-like graphics at the end of this gen.
And one of the big problems is that consoles aren't evolving much in graphics this gen. Other than Uncharted and Gears of War, nothing is looking any better. GeOW 2 looks SLIGHTLY better I guess, but it should look much better.
[QUOTE="legol1"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="legol1"]i dont know about crysis but farcry2 is very promising ,big free roaming world with vehicule and destuctible environement it maybe not crysis but its the next best thing so far . HuusAsking
[QUOTE="Innovazero2000"]And these environments are mostly-interactive with full physics calculations applied?Don't be dumb, COD4 on consoles run the same textures, detail, specular highlighting, etc that high does on PC but at a lower FPS/resolution.
Crysis could prob. done at medium settings @ 720p on consoles. Far Cry 2 and the avalache 2.0 engine featured in just cause 2 are proof of it.
HuusAsking
not sure, not too many details have been released. I do know it has volumetric effects, real time dynamic weather, a deformation system, andfairly nice self shadowing.
It's should prove to match crysis at medium or slightly more on consoles @ 720p.
Course nothing matches crysis at it's ultra high settings.
[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="Zerostatic0"]In my opinion, not quite but the gap will have closed a bit, besides it's not like there is that huge of a difference in visuals between games like Uncharted/Call of Duty 4/Assassin's Creed and Crysis.Thompsonwhore
Actually... it's a huge difference if you have played it. I try not to sound biased... but I really don't think I am, seeing as I've played all those games you've mentioned on 99th percentile setup.
Mine's better than yours, because my TV is better, my monitor is better, and I don't have a Wii or Xbox 360 to detract from them.
Wow, you sound so spoiled it's not really even funny. Ok, I lol'd a bit
I think they'll get a lot better. Look at God of War versus God of War II on the PS2. Or Splinter Cell versus Splinter Cell Chaos Theory on the xbox. Both of the original games were thought to look amazing when they came out. The sequals blew the originals away in terms of graphics. I don't think it's so much about "tapping hidden power" as it is about developing new game engines that deliever more while using less power.
But most console games are at 1280x720 (720p, if they even get there). PC games can be played at much higher resolutions. Higher resolutions really look at lot better.
Don't be dumb, COD4 on consoles run the same textures, detail, specular highlighting, etc that high does on PC but at a lower FPS/resolution.
Crysis could prob. done at medium settings @ 720p on consoles. Far Cry 2 and the avalache 2.0 engine featured in just cause 2 are proof of it.
Innovazero2000
The 360 and PS3 are having trouble running games at 720P that look worse than Crysis and you think Crysis will be done at 720P ?
"Rage" or "Doom 4" ;)deleted_basic
I don't get it, are you implying that Doom 4 or Rage will look better than Crysis ? If they do, do you really think that they will look better on consoles than a PC ?
[QUOTE="Innovazero2000"]Don't be dumb, COD4 on consoles run the same textures, detail, specular highlighting, etc that high does on PC but at a lower FPS/resolution.
Crysis could prob. done at medium settings @ 720p on consoles. Far Cry 2 and the avalache 2.0 engine featured in just cause 2 are proof of it.
Jade_Monkey
The 360 and PS3 are having trouble running games at 720P that look worse than Crysis and you think Crysis will be done at 720P ?
"Rage" or "Doom 4" ;)deleted_basic
I don't get it, are you implying that Doom 4 or Rage will look better than Crysis ? If they do, do you really think that they will look better on consoles than a PC ?
Tell yourself, why are there better looking games running at 720p or slightly better? COD4 is not the best graphics on the console.
If anything the 600p(+AA i believe on the 360 in the vein of 2x) tells me they wanted it to fit within the 360's EDRAM, then ported over.
[QUOTE="Jade_Monkey"][QUOTE="Innovazero2000"]Don't be dumb, COD4 on consoles run the same textures, detail, specular highlighting, etc that high does on PC but at a lower FPS/resolution.
Crysis could prob. done at medium settings @ 720p on consoles. Far Cry 2 and the avalache 2.0 engine featured in just cause 2 are proof of it.
Innovazero2000
The 360 and PS3 are having trouble running games at 720P that look worse than Crysis and you think Crysis will be done at 720P ?
"Rage" or "Doom 4" ;)deleted_basic
I don't get it, are you implying that Doom 4 or Rage will look better than Crysis ? If they do, do you really think that they will look better on consoles than a PC ?
Tell yourself, why are there better looking games running at 720p or slightly better? COD4 is not the best graphics on the console.
If anything the 600p(+AA i believe on the 360 in the vein of 2x) tells me they wanted it to fit within the 360's EDRAM, then ported over.
Theres more to it than just that, Crysis is a very large open area, fully destructable enviornments and massively detailed, the consoles hardware cannot put enough poly's on the screen to compete with Crysis, especially with how big Crysis is and everything that goes on in Crysis.
The consoles just don't have enough RAM (Which is a devs biggest bottleneck) to have such a massive open area, not to mention the RSX nor the Xenos have enough power to push how many poly's Crysis is putting on the screen.
[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="Zerostatic0"]In my opinion, not quite but the gap will have closed a bit, besides it's not like there is that huge of a difference in visuals between games like Uncharted/Call of Duty 4/Assassin's Creed and Crysis.Thompsonwhore
Actually... it's a huge difference if you have played it. I try not to sound biased... but I really don't think I am, seeing as I've played all those games you've mentioned on 99th percentile setup.
Mine's better than yours, because my TV is better, my monitor is better, and I don't have a Wii or Xbox 360 to detract from them.
Ugh...disgusting. That's the only word I can come up with.
And to put it in perspective, just in system memory, Crysis is said to demand over 600MB of RAM all by itself...on Low.Theres more to it than just that, Crysis is a very large open area, fully destructable enviornments and massively detailed, the consoles hardware cannot put enough poly's on the screen to compete with Crysis, especially with how big Crysis is and everything that goes on in Crysis.
The consoles just don't have enough RAM (Which is a devs biggest bottleneck) to have such a massive open area, not to mention the RSX nor the Xenos have enough power to push how many poly's Crysis is putting on the screen.
Nagidar
I'm sure they can play a downgraded Crysis.
Next generation I'm sure would be able to play at Crysis level, probably a bit better. But that not going to stop PC from advancing, I'm sure 8 years now their will be a new PC shooter with amazing graphics that will be causing questions if their is any chance that can be transfered to the xbox 720 or the Playstation 4, which will be filled with answers from many people saying "no way PC for the win" or "yeah the untapped powerz of the ps4 will rain down ur stupid pc" and people calling people those idiotic words like "lemmings" "cows" or "sheep".
Graphics are a opinion so...Hopkins_JWell it seems somebody just loves making witty remarks :roll:
COD4 runs in 600p.Just wondering, what do you guys think? Say in 2011 how much of the systems powers will be tapped, and what kind of graphics will we be seeing? Thanks.
Coredog777
Halo3 runs in 640p with no AA.
GTA4 is also a jaggy fest.
If you think that the consoles arent already taped out then what can I say.
From what I have seen it takes 2 Geforce 9800x2s for Crysis to run at 50fps on max settings at 1920x1200 res
best of luck to the consoles
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