Do you think the PC/console gap will close in the future?

Last gen, the PC/console gap was huge. PC's were doing 1080/1440p 60fps way ahead while console was still stuck with 720p. But 720p was a pretty big deal when it first happened. HD was very new, and a big improvement over previous gen. You also had to get that new HD TV. This gen consoles are at 1080p, and most people still have 1080p TV's, so consoles look really great. I imagine in the future, console will catch up even further, and people will barely care about the difference between console and PC. It's kind of like the jump between DVD and Bluray. Most people just didn't care as much. But VHS to DVD was huge. What do you think, SW? Does the PC advantage really matter much anymore? What about in the future?

On graphics? No, no way in hell. PC's are the cutting edge, full stop. You're not going to beat a rig that costs $3,000+ with one that costs $500. Now, could consoles close the gap between lower end systems that are closer to their price point? Maybe, but I still don't see them really beating out PCs when PCs can do so much more. Buy a $500 system that can only play games and movies, or a $700 system that can play games and do word processing, photo editing, web browsing, video editing, and anything else under the sun, hmmmm...

I think consoles like the switch are the only way forward for consoles at all. It's not enough to just have better horsepower, you also have to do something to make your machine stand out from the competition. Even then, I think the lack of functionality as a tablet hurts the switch. God help Nintendo if mobile developers actually start releasing good games.

The gap will only widen. Last gen, consoles launched with high end PC GPUs. This gen, they launched with low/mid end GPUs. Research and development of new GPUs has ramped significantly up over the past 10 years. As a result, there is a huge gap in quality between high and low end cards now, and console manufacturers simply can't afford the high end. This is why I believe streaming is the future of console gaming.

The best console manufacturers can do now is include the equivalent of a GTX xx50/xx60 card in their system. This is fine since consoles only need 30 fps, but it's not even close to comparable to high end PCs.

If you think the gap between consoles and PCs have closed then you really don't know what you're talking about OP, PCs and consoles are still further apart from each other as they were years ago from graphical performance alone, let alone the PC being very modular and is simply capable of far more than consoles ever will be.

What gap? I don't recall consoles getting anywhere near PC's as far as exclusives go. PC has more exclusives than every console game ever made, for every consoles for years. PC's are on a technical level, have been superior technically to consoles for quite a while. If you're referring to game selection, that's a subjective matter.

No the gap will only widen, consoles will stay far and away more for important for gaming when compared to PC's. The most important thing about PC's at the moment is that bitcoin garbage.

As for graphics and the like, well nobody really cares for that shit unless it favours them in an argument. I mean if people did really give a shit then explain why has the Switch been successful so far???

Ah yes, those consoles, with a virtually non-existent e-sports scene, will remain "more important for gaming". Gotchya.

There is a reason why consoles don't support e-sports. Low frames and substandard input methods = lower skill ceiling in games. Consoles are for casuals.

Sort of.

Everything will be 4K so there will be no resolution advantage.

Advantage will be 4K 30-60 vs 4K 60-144hz

LOL. Lets pretend that CPU and GPU performance has been making leaps and bound in the past few years and lets pretend that performance cannot plateau and its infinitely increasing.

Which is completely dependent on graphical and physics prowess. Theres no advantage to weakening graphics just to meet marketing specs.

I would imagine that the law of diminishing returns pretty much guarantees that this will eventually happen.

Maybe in 15-20 years.

Ok? I’m just saying the resolution advantage won’t exist

@m3Boarder32: Huh you think resolution will cap out at 4K?

I literally just put my eyes 2 feet away from a 40” Screen just now. Measured with a tape ruler.

That is soooo damn big; fills up my whole peripheral vision.

why would anyone want to sit closer than 2 ft from a 40” Display!?

@m3Boarder32: There are already 5K monitors.

and they are worthless

@FLOPPAGE_50: And you’re one of the more ignorant console gamers here so your opinion isn’t worth a lick.

Nice meltdown, real mature.

I have a gaming PC, and I'm also smart to realize that the standard goal for today and the next 5 years is going to be 4k.

So you're reply of "hurhur 5k im so smartzz" is pretty ignorant, you sound like a fake hermit.

Stay hurt.

This generation of consoles was equal to 2012 midrange gaming PCs with tablet CPUs. They did not catch up, it took a mid gen upgrade for them catch up and the hardware in them is still mid range. The PS4 and especially the Xbox One can't even run all games at 1080p without some sacrifices.

@FLOPPAGE_50: "I have a gaming PC". Don’t we all lol?

@UssjTrunks: esports lol that's all i need to say on that subject . Shit one of your laster race guys was considering buying an X to game on while he used his PC to mine. That says it all.

No shit, anything above a 960 qualifies as a "gaming PC"

You kids act like it's special to spend 1k and build a PC, that shit is accessible to anybody with a freaking job.

Nice deflection btw, stay bitter.

And I'm saying it will exist. https://www.pcgamer.com/au-optronics-aims-to-ship-8k-displays-in-the-first-half-of-2018/. https://www.whathifi.com/advice/8k-tv-everything-you-need-to-know

8k will eventually become mainstream and some PC games are capable of utilizing 8k. Any game's ability to take advantage of a higher resolution is dependent on it's graphical prowess. It'll be 8k vs 4k wars between PC and console once the next gen of consoles release.

Like this video, looks like resolution advantage to me.

@FLOPPAGE_50: I don’t know why you say I’m bitter. You’re the one calling me a kid and seemingly mad at gaming PC’s lol.

Graphic wise? Of course. In the next coming years when streaming becomes to the norm there won't be a difference.

lol how? you attacked me first.

You completely avoided the topic at hand to form a personal attack because I have a gaming PC?

my point still stands, 4k is the standard for at least the next 5+ years, 5k monitors at the moment are absolutely pointless, especially when many video cards struggle to even do 4k without spending hundreds.

Either argue the point or gtfo

@FLOPPAGE_50: The point was simply that 5K monitors exist already and resolution won’t cap at 4K lol. We’re talking about the future. You should know this but since you’re ignorant you probably missed it.

Not a chance.

I get what you are saying - we are hitting diminishing returns on the PERCEPTION side of the issue.

I think if anything the technical gap is widening and fast, but the effective difference in how it looks in motion to the eyes is slimming. 4k simply doesn't look as night and day relative to 1080/1440 as 1080 did to 720, and certainly 720 against 480 and below.

No, I don't think consoles are going to approach parity with pc, and I think they will drift further towards a switch-type design or streaming. But the end user experience in terms of visuals is definitely great and losing room to grow in my view

Lol, half ass response with a little jab in there, you're opinion is clearly not worth a lick.

Pretty much how I feel, well said.

@FLOPPAGE_50: Half-assed response to what? I’m the one who was talking about something with another user and I called you ignorant because you have a history of being ignorant and dishonest and your answer was also irrelevant to the discussion we were having.

In the next 5 years PC gamers will be running 8k on high end systems. Consoles will still be 4k/30. Your point is moot to the conversation.

And you have a history for randomly starting shit, as you can tell from this topic your random ramblings keep going off topic.

Sure, show me an affordable 5-8k monitor in the next 2-3 years and we'll talk.

@FLOPPAGE_50: But I’m not going off topic. The topic is if the gap between consoles and PC will shrink. Giovels said in a few years PC and console will both be 4K to which I replied PC’s won’t be capped at 4K as evidence by 5K monitors already being on the market. You came out of nowhere and called 5K useless(chiefly because currently 4K is already hard to run) which was completely irrelevant to the talk we were having.

Also yeah I like starting shit with ignorant posters and put them in their place.

What does being affordable have to do with the op? Nothing. And it will still be affordable to certain people, just like 4k has been for the past few years to some on PC.

You didn't put anything in any place, you're still rambling about nonsense.

Anyways, show me a 5k monitor? I want to see how much these babies cost.

Of course, however affordability does have a massive impact, you're finally starting to see a lot of 4k content once it became affordable.

If money is off the table? then there was never a gap to begin with, because PC will always destroy consoles.

Put what in place? What's hard to understand about 4K not being the resolution cap and there already being 5K displays on the market?

Here.

I mean that's the whole point of PC gaming. You get what you pay for. Thought that was obvious.

When the hell did I say there was a cap? I said the standard, that doesn't mean cap.

don't put words in my mouth.

That's a nice monitor, but it lacks HDR, which is the future of gaming. for that price I'd rather invest in a mid-top 4k TV.

TBH I think we have reached a point now where increases in graphical fidelity from this gen to the next will be very minor. Games will probably stop at 4k for a long time on consoles while resolution advantage on PC will continue to rise but not outpace the 4k standard until consoles finally do.

Pretty much, also viewing distance comes into consideration.

4k will be the standard for at least 5 years.

And again HDR isn't the point. We're talking resolution here and we're talking about the future.

There are already 4K/OLED/GSync/HDR monitors being developed at the moment but they're having quality control issues with OLED. There are also 200Hz/OLED/3440x1440 displays being worked on as well. By the time native 4K becomes standard for consoles we'll be in the next generation and by that time, display technologies on PC will have caught up with HDR/OLED and will also provide higher refresh rates, higher resolutions, lower input lag etc. The gap isn't shrinking.

Well yeah, that's what I've been saying dude.

I'm talking about the standard for shows/tv/sports/consoles will be at 4k for at least 5 years, that's what I've said from the beginning.

No idea why you're bringing in PC gaming/caps/resolution into play, the only reason I brought up PC gaming is because you laughed at me for owning a PC?

you're a mess in this thread dude.

But you're the one who replied to me, not the other way around.

I also didn't laugh at you for owning a PC I simply laughed and said "don't we all".

I replied to your 5k monitor comment, which I said was worthless and provided my input in a further comment.

Dude, take the L.. you went way off topic for no reason other than "hurhur ur ignorant"

What about the gap between home consoles and handheld systems?

PC as in what?