Do you think the Wii U will deliver a new IP

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#101 Biohazard93
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Nintendo need new ip. They need mature games and more Western based first party teams.

nintendoboy16
That's implying they have any western based studios.

Retro Studios.

I think they should let Retro create there own games instead of giving them existing ip
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#102 Seiki_sands
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[QUOTE="princemarth23"]

Which sucks because I thought GX was amazing.

nintendoboy16

This is what Miyamoto ACTUALLY said about F-Zero GX.

"This collaboration has resulted in a true evolution of the "F-ZERO" series. Not only have we enhanced the intense feeling of racing at such high speeds, but we've expanded the F-ZERO world on a grand scale. Beyond that, we've also successfully implemented a link between play on the arcade unit and the Game Cube."

This is where the whole "Miyamoto doesn't like F-Zero GX" comes from...

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: "You've had great success in your ability to predict what players will find fun to play.Have there been games that you thought would be fun but didn't turn out that way?"

SHIGERU MIYAMOTO: "Yes, that has definitely happened.In the past we've worked with some outside development houses on titles like F-Zero and Starfox - and let me just say that we were disappointed with the results. Consumers got very excited about the idea of those games, butthe games themselves did not deliver. And, well, to be honest with you, Zelda: Twilight Princess is not doing very well at all in Japan.It is very disappointing.But it is doing okay here in America."

As you can see, F-Zero GX was never mentioned by name. He could have been referring to any of the GBA titles, all 3 of which were made with outside assistance. Also, even if he was referring to F-Zero GX, its unclear what about it was a disappointment, something about the game or simply the consumer reaction to the game, which would make sense given the context of the answer.



Never knew Sega/Amusement Vision were owned by Nintendo.

Huh? I never implied they were, nor did anything in the quotes.

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#103 dRuGGeRnaUt
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Nintendo + new franchise = not going to happen. The mario/zelda/metroid is the norm, and its works for them. Doesnt for me, but they makes their sales i guess :) - i dont know, i would have to say nintendo doesnt have what it takes to make a new IP with the staying power of mario and company. Many of the people making the decisions at nintendo are all getting quite old, and out of touch, so they keep making the games they know. Same as senior citizens, they are uncomfortable with change. - everyone should be happy that, for the most part, these nintendo 1st games continue to do well/be good games. The day that starts to slip, nintendo is done, because unlike other platforms, including PC, the games and developers are ALWAYS evolving and coming up with new ideas and IPS. Nintendo to me, is stagnating. I lost interest in platform heavy games, as well as (most) child-ish games. I prefer my dark souls/sky rims to zeldas now..
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#104 dRuGGeRnaUt
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With every generation comes new IPs. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.

trugs26

What was nintendos NEW IP this gen? sorry I mustve missed it :roll:

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#105 CasualMike
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A new IP as in something that will be actually fun to play and critically acclaimed by the masses or a new IP like...Pikmin? lol
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#106 dRuGGeRnaUt
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62 games released with mario in the title since the launch of the original xbox. How many halo-themed games in that time? 6. How many god of wars? how many metal gears?? - Nintendo is the champ of milking singular franchises.. and this is where nintendo fanboys show their colours: they deny this claim, and then complain that "UG theres already another HALO, or forza".. Nothing in music, movies, OR video games will come CLOSE to the over saturation of a brand name mascott as Mario. At least the mario fans seem generally happy with the installments they got this gen, I for one, want something new. - And I see absolutely NO reason nintendo cant make an adult rated, mature-world game, and still keep it nintendo. They are the grandfathers of this console industry, and as such, need to set an example. I know they never catered to the mature-rated adult games before, but I would hope nintendo keep the marios and at the same time, grow with its fans that made them rich in the 80s-90s. I think we are owed some new games to enjoy whilst being adults. But nintendo has always catered to families/kids... i guess that will never change. - Example: The reason behind the "friend code" system, and the lack of voice chat due to ideas of "unsaf-ee-ness" to children. If you consoles main design hinges on catering to keep it "family friendly" you have already shunned a VERY LARGE part of the market. - I see no reason they cant do both. *fingers crossed*
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#107 yoshi_64
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[QUOTE="trugs26"]

With every generation comes new IPs. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.

dRuGGeRnaUt

What was nintendos NEW IP this gen? sorry I mustve missed it :roll:

You missed the various "Wii ___" series? One only came with the Wii if you had one. You missed Golden Sun, Trace Memory, Advance Wars Days of Ruin, Arty Style games, Endless Ocean, Sin and Punishment, and well... frankly there are more, but if I go on listing, I will assume you haven't played them...
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62 games released with mario in the title since the launch of the original xbox. How many halo-themed games in that time? 6. How many god of wars? how many metal gears?? - Nintendo is the champ of milking singular franchises.. and this is where nintendo fanboys show their colours: they deny this claim, and then complain that "UG theres already another HALO, or forza".. Nothing in music, movies, OR video games will come CLOSE to the over saturation of a brand name mascott as Mario. At least the mario fans seem generally happy with the installments they got this gen, I for one, want something new. - And I see absolutely NO reason nintendo cant make an adult rated, mature-world game, and still keep it nintendo. They are the grandfathers of this console industry, and as such, need to set an example. I know they never catered to the mature-rated adult games before, but I would hope nintendo keep the marios and at the same time, grow with its fans that made them rich in the 80s-90s. I think we are owed some new games to enjoy whilst being adults. But nintendo has always catered to families/kids... i guess that will never change. - Example: The reason behind the "friend code" system, and the lack of voice chat due to ideas of "unsaf-ee-ness" to children. If you consoles main design hinges on catering to keep it "family friendly" you have already shunned a VERY LARGE part of the market. - I see no reason they cant do both. *fingers crossed*dRuGGeRnaUt

There's a difference between milking the name and milking the game itself, most of their games are targeted on anyone.

People that aren't insecure about their maturity (age doesn't really matter here, doesn't always correlate to a matured mind) don't give a crap what label a game has as long as they enjoy it, and i don't get this obsessive hate towards Nintendo you have, move on and enjoy other companie's console.

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62 games released with mario in the title since the launch of the original xbox. How many halo-themed games in that time? 6. How many god of wars? how many metal gears?? - Nintendo is the champ of milking singular franchises.. and this is where nintendo fanboys show their colours: they deny this claim, and then complain that "UG theres already another HALO, or forza".. Nothing in music, movies, OR video games will come CLOSE to the over saturation of a brand name mascott as Mario. At least the mario fans seem generally happy with the installments they got this gen, I for one, want something new. - And I see absolutely NO reason nintendo cant make an adult rated, mature-world game, and still keep it nintendo. They are the grandfathers of this console industry, and as such, need to set an example. I know they never catered to the mature-rated adult games before, but I would hope nintendo keep the marios and at the same time, grow with its fans that made them rich in the 80s-90s. I think we are owed some new games to enjoy whilst being adults. But nintendo has always catered to families/kids... i guess that will never change. - Example: The reason behind the "friend code" system, and the lack of voice chat due to ideas of "unsaf-ee-ness" to children. If you consoles main design hinges on catering to keep it "family friendly" you have already shunned a VERY LARGE part of the market. - I see no reason they cant do both. *fingers crossed*dRuGGeRnaUt

People expect certain things of Nintendo as a publisher in different regions.

NoA in particular seems to stick to the Nintendo brand as being family oriented, although they seem to market Metroid strictly to what they seem to think is a core audience of young males, and they experimented last generation with a core demo by releasing Eternal Darkness and Geist, among others.

In Japan, Nintendo seems to have a little bit more flexibility. Publishing horror games like Fatal Frame 4 and a remake of Fatal Frame 2, straight action titles like Reginleiv, or RPGs like Last Story and Xenoblade this generation.

Your point about Mario is more than a bit unfair. Mario as a brand is not a singular entity, most of them are there own very distinct franchises that just happen to have Mario as a character. For instance, you said there have been six Halo themed titles, but were you including Dead or Alive 4, which has a spartan as a character and a Warthog driving through one of its stages? No? However, I bet you included Super Smash Bros. or Mario Kart, which are no more a traditional Mario title than DoA is a Halo title.

Also, Mario happens to be many, many times more iconic than Master Chief, as he's been around a lot, lot longer, made a much bigger impact in gaming as a whole and potentially appeals to every demographic. He is THE icon of video gaming, and he really has no rival. I'm not speaking as a sheep, that's simply being realistic. Consider that the first SMB sold 40 million worldwide, that's more than double the numbers CoD sells today and the market for video games today is far, far larger than it was at the time. IoW, Mario wasn't a big part of gaming, Mario WAS gaming (imagine if CoD had 8x the impact its had in the last couple of years and your approaching what Mario meant to gaming in the 80s). This generation alone four of those Mario titles you mentioned have sold more than 20 million units each. Trust me when I say, if Master Chief could move 98 million units in four titles as Mario has done this generation you would NEVER, EVER, EVER see the end of him, he would be making appearances in Fable and Crackdown, he would be everywhere MS could stick his face. Also, since Nintendo makes many, many more games and has a much larger 1st party presence than MS, and also makes games for more than one platform it only makes sense their mascots would get more exposure.

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62 games released with mario in the title since the launch of the original xbox. How many halo-themed games in that time? 6. How many god of wars? how many metal gears??dRuGGeRnaUt
Nintendo uses it's characters in games like racing, tennis, soccer, party games, fighters, basketball, baseball, RPGs, adventure, platformer, puzzle, sidescrollers, etc.... It's not like Nintendo is releasing 62 Mario platformers. Or 62 Mario racing games. So your number of "62" is misleading, since Mario is just a character, and that character is used in a broad range of games. Instead of releasing a soccer game with real soccer players, they'll release a soccer game using their own nintendo characters. You're acting as if they are creating the same game 62 times over, when it's not even in the same genre.
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="Aquaunitpatrol"] That's implying they have any western based studios.Biohazard93
Retro Studios.

I think they should let Retro create there own games instead of giving them existing ip

I agree but Retro asked to create Donkey Kong Country Returns because that is the series that the majority of people at Retro love playing.

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#112 Fizzman
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Probably some new casual crap.

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#113 Maroxad
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Of course they will. But the question is what will we see?

Nintendo created over 60 IPs this gen.

Will we see casual games?
Will we see adventure games?
Will we see generic whac-a-mole shooters?
Will we see action adventure games?
Will we see platformers?
Will we see whatever failgenre that becomes popular and oversaturated next gen?
Will we see RPGs? And if so which one (Turn based, RTwP or Action)?
Will we see MMOs? Please dont follow WoW in any shape or form though, that game has been garbage since late TBC.

What I am hoping the most for however is a turn based cRPGs that evolve the formula set up by Fire Emblem, while not dumbing it down. So keep the permadeath in, keep the difficulty, keep the limited inventory system, ect. This RTwP and Action RPG crap is getting on my nerves.

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#114 MathMattS
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I hope we see a new IP with the Wii U. Nintendo's current IPs are great, but a new one would be nice.

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#115 lamprey263
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well, we'll have a few years to find out