I was wondering if you want graphics ti improve because to me I don't really care because the graphics are good right now...well maybe the next nintendo system can use a graphical upgrade but that's really it. What do you think?
improvement is always nice, I would like to see more colors, other then Rare's stuff tbh a lot of games this gen have been real murky cuz it adds a "realism" effect. WHich I like, but after a while it gets a bit dull.
No. I'm good with the quality of graphics at this point. Even the Wii titles I own. I love the look of SMG, LoZ, and Madworld. And my PS3 and 360 titles are fine graphically. Just give me intriguing stories, characters, and good gameplay.
Yes i would, games like Crysis and the better elements of Arma 2 will one day become totally standard. Console wise i think there is a LOT od room for improvement. Jaggies need to go for a start, thank god not everything this gen looks as horrifically jagged as most Wii games do, now THERE is room for improvement.
im happy with graphics now. they need to focus on immersion. meaning animations, sounds, enviornment, AI , and level design. crysis with the CCC mod lvl 6 is good enough for me
next generation, they're definately going to improve graphics. Its also gonna allow for games to do more interactions (more memory), thus not as big limitation.
I'd rather have my games running at 60 FPS with 1,000 enemies on screen without framerate issues more than a graphics update.
Legendaryscmt
Stablility is key, although i do find that 30-40 FPS can be a good visual compromise since 60FPS on Crysis or Clear Sky means slashing visual fidelity to all hell.
next generation, they're definately going to improve graphics. Its also gonna allow for games to do more interactions (more memory), thus not as big limitation.
Ribnarak
this isnt exactly set in stone. graphics might not improve or at least not as much as they have in past gens. graphics is one of the reasons why game development costs have gone up so much. improving them further only increases them more. $500 launch consoles? try $600 or 700.
of course strictly speaking from a console perspective
No. I'd like to see development tech catch up first.
HD graphics are nice, but the production values, dev cycles, and console builds are all suffering because companies took a huge leap into HD fairly early.
For most open world games, sure. They could do with a bit more juice under the hood.Next-Gen-Tec
I think Assassin's Creed looks damn good right now. On-topic: If development time is incressing due to graphics, I'd say no. To be honest Killzone 2 is the best looking console game I've played and I hated it.. So graphics is not that important to me... of course graphics will be improved apon (unless Microsoft and Sony goes Wii on us) but it seems the better the game looks, the less content it has to make it a good game and until reviewers start pointing this out, it will only get worse.
[QUOTE="Next-Gen-Tec"]For most open world games, sure. They could do with a bit more juice under the hood.Shattered007
I think Assassin's Creed looks damn good right now. On-topic: If development time is incressing due to graphics, I'd say no. To be honest Killzone 2 is the best looking console game I've played and I hated it.. So graphics is not that important to me... of course graphics will be improved apon (unless Microsoft and Sony goes Wii on us) but it seems the better the game looks, the less content it has to make it a good game and until reviewers start pointing this out, it will only get worse. That has loading. I'm talking games like GTA, Prototype, etc. They look pretty good, but could do with a bit more.
As long as consoles don't cost $500 and $600 and games don't cost a cent over $60. I do want graphics to improve. We all think we're at the pinnacle of graphics on consoles. Not even close. Games barely run in 720p. And a lot of games have less than desirable textures and physics.
Until we get a GTA that looks as good as crysis and runs in real 1080p at 60fps, I won't be 100% satisfied.
You could say I'd just want games to run in 2160p after that but I think the difference between 2160p and 1080p will be less than from 720p to 1080p (which already isn't very big). Especially on screen sizes that 90% of people have. (as in, less than 60 inches)
yeah i want big improvements crysis has remained graphics king for far to long hopefully dx11 will give us a big jump in graphics altough it seems like consoles are holding back pc :(
[QUOTE="Shattered007"][QUOTE="Next-Gen-Tec"]For most open world games, sure. They could do with a bit more juice under the hood.Next-Gen-Tec
I think Assassin's Creed looks damn good right now. On-topic: If development time is incressing due to graphics, I'd say no. To be honest Killzone 2 is the best looking console game I've played and I hated it.. So graphics is not that important to me... of course graphics will be improved apon (unless Microsoft and Sony goes Wii on us) but it seems the better the game looks, the less content it has to make it a good game and until reviewers start pointing this out, it will only get worse. That has loading. What? I'm nost sure what you mean here. AC1 had big open citys where you would kill anyone (without penalties at the end) and do anything...Are you saying it loads to and from cities?
As long as consoles don't cost $500 and $600 and games don't cost a cent over $60. I do want graphics to improve. We all think we're at the pinnacle of graphics on consoles. Not even close. Games barely run in 720p. And a lot of games have less than desirable textures and physics. I want all games to run in real 1080p at 60fps looking at least as good as crysis. Then I'll be happy. munu9
I dont think we have to worry about a $500 console next gen. MS upgraded the xbox tech to top of the line (at the time) in 4 years for the 360; this was enough to be a decent gen leap in terms of graphics. If consoles arnt released until 2011-2012 they can use the top of the line hardware from the end of 2009 or 2010 and have the same amount of graphical difference as they did when going from the xbox to the 360. This is because they are using tech from about the same differences in time. Meaning that the NextBox and PS4 could have 'next gen' grphics while saving money since they are using a year or 2 old hardware in their system. So I think that there will be a $400 standard true 'nextgen' console........next gen. This is all only valid if they really do wait until 2011-2012 for new consoles though.
I don;t mind graphics improving this gen; however, i do mind it if it cost small and indie developer to go bankrupt and make Activision and EA to produce graphics whore games with no imporvement in gameplay.
While there is always room for improvement, I'm afraid that graphics will become so good, that it'll take developers more and more years to make a game.
I actually think that gameplay should be the big focus next generation. If graphics and things like that go up...well it only mean games will be a lot more expensive:o
I was wondering if you want graphics ti improve because to me I don't really care because the graphics are good right now...well maybe the next nintendo system can use a graphical upgrade but that's really it. What do you think?Ryu_8023
If it means having to pay more for games, then no.
No! I want games to increase in size and difficulty.
Burning-Sludge
agreed, i dont want to pay 60+usd for a game that last 7 hours, with the exception of having to go back and collect trophies or acheivements. id rather games be 12+ hours long and a little more challenging. I know it takes alot to do graphics, but cmon, i shouldnt be able to beat a game in 5 hours, *cough* MSG4 *cough*
longer gameplay. Even some n64 games like donkey kong 64, or banjo 64 are still fun. Those games lasted a while. I think Fallout 3 is going in the right direction as well.
On a sidenote: graphics will always continue to improve. The better and newer the technology, the better the system can handle (in terms of graphics, interactions, etc). This wont make the game last longer, but make it better atleast. Also, i agree with most people that the prices of games are getting too high. I mean it takes like max 5$ to manufacture and ship one game. i think a good price would be 40 - 60$ no more. I hate how games are like 69.99 and above.
longer gameplay. Even some n64 games like donkey kong 64, or banjo 64 are still fun. Those games lasted a while. I think Fallout 3 is going in the right direction as well.
Ribnarak
If they released that for XBLA it would be amazing.
I welcome improvements but i think we are fine where we stand graphically speaking. Plus, it depends on the developer and game not gaming in general for graphics to improve/slip.
longer gameplay. Even some n64 games like donkey kong 64, or banjo 64 are still fun. Those games lasted a while. I think Fallout 3 is going in the right direction as well.
Trmpt
If they released that for XBLA it would be amazing.
longer gameplay. Even some n64 games like donkey kong 64, or banjo 64 are still fun. Those games lasted a while. I think Fallout 3 is going in the right direction as well.
TaMuK711
If they released that for XBLA it would be amazing.
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