Does Anyone Else Kinda Wanna See Nintendo Fail?

I wanna see them struggle for a bit, specifically the wii-u. that way they drop the price and maybe add some more memory and improve the interface that has killer load time from what i hear. I also don't like the fact its not more powerful. It doesnt have to compete with MS and Sony's systems but it should be significantly better then 360/ps3. It wasn't ok when they did it with the wii and it isn't ok now

I would like them to make more original IPs but I don't wish for them to fail.

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

 

Microsoft has actually been very innovative the past 2 generations.

AHUGECAT

Hard drives, Xbox Live, Xbox Live Arcade, Kinect, Achievements, etc. etc.

Why would I want the best developer/publisher in the industry to fail?

Go home, TC. You're drunk.

Why would I want the best developer/publisher in the industry to fail?

Go home, TC. You're drunk.

DarkLink77

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Why would I want the best developer/publisher in the industry to fail?

Go home, TC. You're drunk.

rjdofu

[QUOTE="mysticstryk"]The human race is so disgusting.  Wanting thousands of people to lose their jobs, letting thousands of families go hungry.  Not to mention the hit on the economy.Zeviander

Fail is a strong word, i want to see them healthy, profitable but not as the industry leader. They're lousy at that. They're better off neutered by a strong PlayStation with all the third party support that generally eludes Nintendo siding with Sony.

AgentA-Mi6

do cows really think this way? that it actually matters who sells the most consoles?

do you really think anything would be different in the industry if Sony was industry leader?

no i dont want them to fail.

Rather see Sony die frist, now that would be funny.

Gamers would gain nothing in seeing a company like Nintendo fail....

I honestly want all 3 of them and any other gaming related company to be successful, cause that would give me more options / quality products..

Yes.

- The Wii U controller makes no sense. It's completely pointless. It doesn't enhance games and it's not easy to use. The Wii was a success because it was so easy to use. Nintendo thought controllers got too complicated so they went basic again. With the Wii U it got more clunky and ridiculous. The controller may be the worst idea since Nintendo stuck with cartridges for the N64.

 If you actually played on the WiiU gamepad you would know that while that it's big, it actually feels just as comfortable as an Xbox 360 controller, it just has a screen in the middle.

- Their underpowered and overpriced consoles. Nintendo used to be able to do high powered consoles cheap. The GameCube was more powerful than the PS2 yet $100 cheaper! Now they decided to literally release 7 year old hardware with a useless controller for $350... then they only give us 32 gigs of hard drive space.. um wth?

 Xbox 360s and PS3s are still being sold around $300 to $400. It's not overpriced. Plus add in the Manufacturing of the Gamepad, that racks up the price.

Had Nintendo also gave us 320gb instead of 32gb the price range would have been beyond that $350 mark for a Deluxe, just look at the many skus of the PS3 and Xbox 360s they go up in price the more Gigabytes they are.

- Their lack of innovation. Mario, Zelda, maybe Metroid, Animal Crossing, Smash BRos, more mario, zelda, blah blah blah. Those games are great but we need new titles and more diversity. Nintendo used to be king of first person shooters (Turok, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, etc. etc.) maybe they should sign a deal with Valve or Epic Games and get a good adult shooter. Or sign with a western RPG developer and get a huge immersive WRPG like Skyrim, Mass Effect or Fallout (which sale MILLIONS).

Nintendo has Monolith Soft and Retro Studios who have brought both Xenoblade and Metroid Prime to the Wii this past generation, and Xenoblade has WAY more customizations than Skyrim. Retro Studios has yet to reveal their "Massive" Project, New Engine? Metroid Prime? FPS? who the heck knows, but it's coming and it'll be huge.

What you're looking for is 3rd Party more specifically Western 3rd Party support, Although it's there, just not as big right now and that's because developers are afraid, which is why Nintendo is looking into doing more Collaborations with 3rd Parties if you watched Last Week's Nintendo Direct you would have known that.

- Lack of third party support. Nintendo needs some third party support. Maybe get Kingdom Hearts III and/or Final Fantasy XV exclusive or something. It also needs more multiplats. GTA V won't appear on the console for example.

Read what I said up above. If Nintendo didn't care about 3rd Party support we wouldn't have Ninja Gaiden Razor's Edge (which is the better version of the 360 and PS3 title) and we definitely wouldn't have Bayonetta 2.

AHUGECAT

I'm tired of their gimmicks and wish they would go the way of Sega and become solely a software developer for other platforms.  I would love to play Mario and Zelda without having to invest in another console just for those 1st party titles.

I'm tired of their gimmicks and wish they would go the way of Sega and become solely a software developer for other platforms.  I would love to play Mario and Zelda without having to invest in another console just for those 1st party titles.

Boddicker

Is it me that there are so many Nintendo threads lately?

No of course not. But I desperately want them to mix it up a bit. They need to get more third party support going. They need to implement a better, more competitive online infrastructure that can stand up to Sony's and MS's. I'd say they need to at least be in the same court technologically speaking with Sony and MS's next gen offerings, but it's a bit too late for that. Zelda needs a LONG (I'm keeping my fingers crossed) overdue overhaul. Metroid needs to return. Their needs to be new IPs. Huge IPs, not simply puzzle games or others nobody cares for. A bit more mature themed like Eternal Darkness. It feels to me that Nintendo is playing it safe in their house of Mario and Zelda. I hate to say it, but the Wii U is the first Nintendo system that I have not bought on launch day. I'm going to sit and watch for now and hope they ratchet it up a bit. I don't think they're nearly as relevant today as they once were. MirkoS77

Um... we got a new Metroid game like 2 years ago. It's not on hiatus or anything. Why is everyone freaking out about Metroid as if it's gone? I'm far more worried about Star Fox, F-Zero, and 1080. Metroid is a given at this point. They also resurrected Donkey King, and Kirby, Pikmin, and Yoshi recently. I think most of their core IPs are fine.

New IPs? Like The Last Story, or Xenoblade or Monolith's project X, or Retro's unannounced game, The Wonderful 101 or the FE/SMT crossover? There's also Nintendo's other internal studios, and we have no idea what they're doing. In addition, they picked up Bayonetta. I don't see the issue.

The system has been out for 3 months. Getting the whole ball rolling takes time, man. Seems to me like you're blowing this out of proportion.

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[QUOTE="rjdofu"]No, I don't like them, but without them, there'd be no one for Sony & MS to copy.MonsieurX

Microsoft has actually been very innovative the past 2 generations.

I don't want anyone to lose their jobs, but Nintendo has been loosing my interest ever since the Wii happened. I would like for them to get what is coming to them just enough that they step up their game and no jobs are lost.

I don't think anyone wants to see Nintendo Fail. They want to see Nintendo bring out a stronger console and get back to their roots a bit, but that's an entirely different conversation. 

Yes.

- The Wii U controller makes no sense. It's completely pointless. It doesn't enhance games and it's not easy to use. The Wii was a success because it was so easy to use. Nintendo thought controllers got too complicated so they went basic again. With the Wii U it got more clunky and ridiculous. The controller may be the worst idea since Nintendo stuck with cartridges for the N64.

 

- Their underpowered and overpriced consoles. Nintendo used to be able to do high powered consoles cheap. The GameCube was more powerful than the PS2 yet $100 cheaper! Now they decided to literally release 7 year old hardware with a useless controller for $350... then they only give us 32 gigs of hard drive space.. um wth?

 

- Their lack of innovation. Mario, Zelda, maybe Metroid, Animal Crossing, Smash BRos, more mario, zelda, blah blah blah. Those games are great but we need new titles and more diversity. Nintendo used to be king of first person shooters (Turok, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, etc. etc.) maybe they should sign a deal with Valve or Epic Games and get a good adult shooter. Or sign with a western RPG developer and get a huge immersive WRPG like Skyrim, Mass Effect or Fallout (which sale MILLIONS).

 

- Lack of third party support. Nintendo needs some third party support. Maybe get Kingdom Hearts III and/or Final Fantasy XV exclusive or something. It also needs more multiplats. GTA V won't appear on the console for example.

AHUGECAT

If Nintendo goes the way of SEGA and works solely as a software developer I admittedly won't be disappointed. I love Nintendo but their consoles are just not appealing. The more they try to innovate, the more disinterested in them I become. Third party support has always been their biggest problem and not even six months into the console's life we're seeing numerous articles about developers who refuse to put their titles on the Wii U. The tech behind their new machine is already dated and to me it's really shaping out to be a similar situation that the Dreamcast faced many years ago - A new console with a unique design about to be done in by the big dogs who've yet to show their hands.

You can't really blame Nintendo for all of this though. They don't have the finacial clout that Microsoft and Sony possess. In the end, with competition coming from all sides I doubt Nintendo will be able to last even in the handheld market where they've reigned supreme for so long. As sad as it will be to see them crumble, assuming that becomes a reality, having their first party titles and characters on other systems would be amazing.

Why would anyone want to see a game company fail? If people really have these mindsets then please stop playing games.

I hate this gen of gaming where everyone wants to see the competition fail all the time. As gamers you should want the opposite and want the industry to thrive and get better. It's a very stupid thing to want some company to fail for very petty reasons

seanmcloughlin

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They can't if they do at least slightly average at E3, where they have project X to show off the abilities of the Wii U's dual GPU system. The Wii U gamepad allows the combined power of it's GPU to the GPU of the system, allowing more enhanced memory, and thus allowing more enhanced memory. This will give a large advantage to the next two PS4 and Xbox 720, as they will be closed. Soo Pc's will have this tech to improve performance and coding options. The Wii U is too advanced, and the next E3, even if not too good, will still be enough if they show off the GPU dual power, which at first I was scared they would not, but Project X shows this entirely of that power with the extra memory.StaticOnTV

You have no idea what you are talking about.

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because of Nintendo and Micro$oft, Sony are now better than ever.  :cool:

mems_1224

PSOne era was great without Microsoft..

Nintendo should stop makining consoles. Wii was a fluke...they should be forced to become 3rd party developers like Sega. Zelda for all platforms!

rather see them as third party

nintendo as a hole? no

to a degree a yes.

anways i don't wish any game company fail besides crapcon.

karma is a @#$% i hope nintendo stomps the competition while the others fall for over pricing their hardware/accessories and 70 dollar games ya i wanna see these 2 fall ,  because honestly all they do is want $$$$ want multiplayer pay up want on-disc dlc pay up want internet explorer on your 360 -pay up net flix on 360 pay up , its ms in reality is the most expensive of the 3 and of the 2 i hope ms falls before sony , because their doing nothing right any more xbl was good for like a few years until they started kenict,  now its like hey folks watch these ads on your dashboard and still give us your money , 

ya op is off his meds , , fails to see whos the real problem today , 

sure wii u is not a powerhouse like people wanted it to be ,   but that does not mean jack s#$% compared to not having games-vita im looking at you  ,  

Nintendo certainly isn't for me any more, but I don't want to see them fail. Kids deserve a games console their parents feel comfortable buying them. Just because I grew up doesn't mean there aren't kids out there who deserve to save the princess for the first time and enjoy it.

Older gamers are mad at Nintendo for not growing up with them but they shouldn't be. Nintendo is magical for children, I know I absolutely loved NES and Super Nintendo growing up and I hope my kids will love Nintendo games some day too.

If you're an older gamer and still like Nintendo games, by all means have at it. I can't get exited about saving the princess any more, and rightly so, but that doesn't mean there aren't millions of kids out there who can. Long live Nintendo...

No, and anyone that does is an idiot.