Does Forza 3 finally show that the 360 has as much power as the PS3?

[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] Precisely,and that last video of the end about the "video editing" made me throw, worst than the motorstorm CG trailer. It was a joke, with all the claims there making about being the definitive racer of this gen, i hope they're offering more than what i saw. Alot of talk and not alot of show. Nice cars though, really nice cars.Adrian_Cloud

http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/pitpass1.htm

"Likewise, with the gameplay video, everything was captured in-game with no faked CG whatsoever. At Turn 10, we don't do bullshots."

Let me guess, you still wont believe because the 360 is 'tapped out':roll:

[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] Precisely,and that last video of the end about the "video editing" made me throw, worst than the motorstorm CG trailer. It was a joke, with all the claims there making about being the definitive racer of this gen, i hope they're offering more than what i saw. Alot of talk and not alot of show. Nice cars though, really nice cars.Adrian_Cloud

IT IS IN GAME!!!

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]Again, what is it with people and denial, that was using INGAME stuff. Forza 2 is still by far the best sim on console and i dont think GT5 will beat it given Polyphony's priorities when it comes to games. Motorstorm on the other hand was shown completely in CGnavyguy21

IT IS IN GAME!!!

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[QUOTE="Youngmav05"]

I'm pretty sure the replay movie editor footage was fake pre-rendered stuff or am I the only one?

The_Game21x

The guy made big claims, and in my fair unbiased opinion, to big. He kept saying "THE BEST!"...ahhh no.

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]I'm not grasping for straws. I couldn't care less. In fact if the developers say IN-GAME with no "faked" CG, then i'll take his word.-Pred-Alien-

The graphics were awesome, but i was worried a little at the big crashes and how he kept going on about making it accessible. If it's not the uber-hardcore racing sim it's always been i'll be sad.Ninja-Hippo

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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] I'm not in denial, there is no way that is happening INGAME. Your wrong it wasn't ingame, obviously its not even REALTIME but not ingame(seeing as how the guy holding the controller wasn't even moving the analogs). Furthermore what do you mean by "in-game stuff"? No physics were in that trailer at all, it was simply a trailer using in game CAR models and envrionments. No real time lighting, physics or any of that stuff was in that trailer. This isn't MGS lol.Adrian_Cloud

IT IS IN GAME!!!

[QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]I saw the car flip and was sold. The graphics looked extremely improved as well.skrat_01

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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] I'm not in denial, there is no way that is happening INGAME. Your wrong it wasn't ingame, obviously its not even REALTIME but not ingame(seeing as how the guy holding the controller wasn't even moving the analogs). Furthermore what do you mean by "in-game stuff"? No physics were in that trailer at all, it was simply a trailer using in game CAR models and envrionments. No real time lighting, physics or any of that stuff was in that trailer. This isn't MGS lol.Adrian_Cloud

IT IS IN GAME!!!

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]

IT IS IN GAME!!!

navyguy21

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] lol, that was in-game. Were not talking about that. :lol:Adrian_Cloud

[QUOTE="DarkyC"]

Did you actually saw the graphics of the game? All I saw where replay-atons.

Ninja-Hippo

Nope! :) Replay-atons.

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]so you are talking about the video editor where the cars were doing tricks?? If so, maybe it was scripted, but not CGI, that video actually looked a bit worse because of the motion blur, but those things can be added with the editor, just like in PGR where you really can do tricks like that :P so maybe it was gameplay, maybe it wasnt, but it WAS the in game engine, and not CGIII-FBIsniper-II

First of all, that video with all the spinny cars was clearly not a real time video. It may have been using some in-game assets (car models, enviroments, etc), but it was not made in-game, or even on an Xbox 360 for that matter. It was just an example of what kind of videos players can expect to create with the video editor, and nothing more.

That said, the game is still beautiful, and all the other videos are real. GT5 still has better looking car models, but that fictional track in Forza looks unreal. Visually, neither game is going to be head and shoulders above the other. The real difference is going to in the gameplay, customization, and community features, which I expect Forza 3 to win handily.

Great racing series, the 3rd game will definitely impress. The graphics blew me away.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="DarkyC"]

Did you actually saw the graphics of the game? All I saw where replay-atons.

jakehouston88

Nope! :) Replay-atons.

Wrong again.

The fact that cows dont believe that it was ingame just proves how good the game looks. The sad part is that if it were a PS3 game, every one would be saying that it was actual graphics. Well....imo MS conference games just proved how cows overrate the cell. In reality 360 is as porwefull as PS3 if not better ;)

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It's a racing game though. There isn't an insane amount of action going on beyond cars moving. I donno. I guess we'll have to see how it holds up with the lighting, the physics, the weather, and everything.

hockeyruler12

the physics alone takes up a lot of power- plus 60FPS is a huge resource HOG.

The power arguement is an unwinnable one. One can argue convincingly in favour of either console.

I will say f3 looks better than gt5p though.

06-02-2009

The fact that cows dont believe that it was ingame just proves how good the game looks. The sad part is that if it were a PS3 game, every one would be saying that it was actual graphics. Well....imo MS conference games just proved how cows overrate the cell. In reality 360 is as porwefull as PS3 if not better ;)

PAL360

yeah because cows are the ONLY people who didn't believe that this wasn't in game :roll:. Stop generalizing a whole group of people based off a few message posts. Also, high quality racing games wouldn't really show off what the cell is capable. It's games that have more cinematic intergrated gameplay that shows off the cells power (SPECIFICALLY: UNCHARTED 2, MGS4, KILLZONE 2 - ALL GAMES THAT LOOK TECHNICALLY ABOVE ANY OTHER GAMES IN ALL THREE CONSOLES AND WAS BUILT FROM THE GROUND UP). The Xbox 360 has the more powerful graphics chip though and its CPU is more than capable of making great racing games, well because they're racing games, lol.

Yup. The graphics in F3 surpass those in GT5: P.

BioShockOwnz

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] lol, that was in-game. Were not talking about that. :lol:Adrian_Cloud

Uncharted showed off teh cells power ?, uncharted didnt even look better than Gears of war. if thats the true power of ps3 than its not much. ive seen nothing but ps3 & 360 pull off equal graphic capabilities so far :/

Neither has ever shown complete and utter graphical dominance. Everyone prior to the PS3's launch literally believed it would be 4x more powerful and run in full native 1080p 4X AA like a PC on steroids. Wrong.

Both are great, leave it at that.

Neither has ever shown complete and utter graphical dominance. Everyone prior to the PS3's launch literally believed it would be 4x more powerful and run in full native 1080p 4X AA like a PC on steroids. Wrong.

Both are great, leave it at that.

SemiMaster

What this guy said ^

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Yup. The graphics in F3 surpass those in GT5: P.

iowastate

But he is not looking into the future ....the game play found in the trailer looked as good as GT5P...and the game still has 4 months to go...

The irony is you start off by saying "you can see in to the future?" as a criticism..... but then go on to say "when GT5 is released I doubt that will be the case." :|

[QUOTE="iowastate"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Yup. The graphics in F3 surpass those in GT5: P.

masiisam

But he is not looking into the future ....the game play found in the trailer looked as good as GT5P...and the game still has 4 months to go...

The irony is you start off by saying "you can see in to the future?" as a criticism..... but then go on to say "when GT5 is released I doubt that will be the case." :|

There is no such thing as "does the 360 have as much power as the PS3?" The answer is no, it doesn't. This isn't something you can debate, its actual fact. When you discuss the power of a system you discuss the specs of the system and the PS3 has the higher specs.

forza doesn't look quite as good to me as GT5... it still looks good though.

it's mainly the lighting... it just doesn't look right. and everything is too bright and colorful, kinda unrealistic. This is just my personal opinion though, please don't kill me!

racing games, Sports games, will never challenge the 360 or ps3 and should never be used in a graphics arguement......

There is no such thing as "does the 360 have as much power as the PS3?" The answer is no, it doesn't. This isn't something you can debate, its actual fact. When you discuss the power of a system you discuss the specs of the system and the PS3 has the higher specs.

Velric

racing games, Sports games, will never challenge the 360 or ps3 and should never be used in a graphics arguement......

All_that_is_Man

racing games, Sports games, will never challenge the 360 or ps3 and should never be used in a graphics arguement......

All_that_is_Man

FM3 shows Turn 10 is an awesome developer.

Forza was always more fun than GT. GT is boring, Forza improved on the graphic while they already had the fun gameplay and community. People boost GT's graphics forever as if it was meant to be stared at only and not played. I dont care a car has a trillion polygons.. Tjeremiah1988

FM3 shows Turn 10 is an awesome developer.

Nagidar

Yes it does. People love to compare Forza and GT but I am just excitied to get my hands on Forza 3. I loved the first two and this one looks amazing.

What is the deal with GT5 anyway, when is it supposed to come out?

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

FM3 shows Turn 10 is an awesome developer.

HolyHandGrenad3

Yes it does. People love to compare Forza and GT but I am just excitied to get my hands on Forza 3. I loved the first two and this one looks amazing.

What is the deal with GT5 anyway, when is it supposed to come out?

There is no release date yet, but I plan on getting both FM3 and GT5 when they are released.

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

so you are talking about the video editor where the cars were doing tricks?? If so, maybe it was scripted, but not CGI, that video actually looked a bit worse because of the motion blur, but those things can be added with the editor, just like in PGR where you really can do tricks like that :P so maybe it was gameplay, maybe it wasnt, but it WAS the in game engine, and not CGInavyguy21

racing games, Sports games, will never challenge the 360 or ps3 and should never be used in a graphics arguement......

[QUOTE="PvtGump8"][QUOTE="All_that_is_Man"]

racing games, Sports games, will never challenge the 360 or ps3 and should never be used in a graphics arguement......

Supa__Mario

link?

[QUOTE="Supa__Mario"][QUOTE="PvtGump8"] When the racing game looks as good as GT5 it can be used.finesse-gamer

link?

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

FM3 shows Turn 10 is an awesome developer.

HolyHandGrenad3

Yes it does. People love to compare Forza and GT but I am just excitied to get my hands on Forza 3. I loved the first two and this one looks amazing.

What is the deal with GT5 anyway, when is it supposed to come out?

as afan of xbox 360 forza 1 and 2 are really good they give the action driving system combined to driving experience they both have agood graphics after what i saw forza 3 will be revolutionary . for some people my words will be bad but what is the point of making ahuge graphics game but doesnt have agood gameplay or agood online system .

[QUOTE="Avenger1324"]and chances are Forza 3 will be released before GT5, meaning they have managed to get 2 top racers out in the time that GT5 hasn't appearedbeast667

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[QUOTE="iowastate"] you can see in to the future? when GT5 is released I doubt that will be the case.iowastate

But he is not looking into the future ....the game play found in the trailer looked as good as GT5P...and the game still has 4 months to go...

The irony is you start off by saying "you can see in to the future?" as a criticism..... but then go on to say "when GT5 is released I doubt that will be the case." :|

I guess it's a "problem" when we have data to make a comparison between FM3 and GT5P...All Bio said was his opinion on FM3 and GT5P..No where in that post did he say anything about GT5...You chime in and say "Can you can see in to the future?" as a criticism..Then go on to use your own "educated guess" AKA crystal ball and state "when GT5 is released I doubt that will be the case"

You don't see the irony in that?

Besides.....I am specifically speaking of the post I quoted you on...How anyone on this earth can comprehend "you can see in to the future? when GT5 is released I doubt that will be the case" as the intended meaning of "I have played both the 360 and the PS3 and from what I have seen of them I am saying that both the Forza and GT will be great games - and fanboys for both systems will probably continue to insist that their game is way better and the other looks like crap in comparison"

Why not just say that from the beginning?...

[QUOTE="beast667"][QUOTE="Avenger1324"]and chances are Forza 3 will be released before GT5, meaning they have managed to get 2 top racers out in the time that GT5 hasn't appearedBoloTheGreat