Does KZ3 need more science fiction-based weapons?

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Some people thought that KZ2 was a little too grounded in present day reality with most weapons being awfully similar to their real-life counterparts. Not saying that bullets should entirely be replaced with lasers, but what would be the point of making a sci-fi shooter without sci-fi guns in it? It basically would be the Iraq War, only on a different planet. The few sci-fi weapons KZ2 did have included the Electric Gun, electric grenades and the EXO suit. Other than that, there wasn't really much else that seemed out of this world. Perhaps KZ3 will include more, but do you think this would be for the best or was the more down-to-earth approach to weaponry in the previous game just right for you?

yes and more exposions than micheal bay's movie

Don't forget in Kilzzone 2 which is set like 600 years in the future, the most advanced shotgun has a flashlight attached to it. And we have more advanced Assault rifles RIGHT NOW!

Not really, I hate how in sci-fi, aliens are always little green men with anal probes.

no killzone 2 had em it had some really good weapons too..the problem is most of the unique weapons? appeared once in the single player and you never ever used them again. which is a testament to how short it is, on easy or Normal it was about a 5 hour run with just the knife, using other weapons like the alien ones like the one lightning gun when you had to use them.. sadly those weapons even the sniper rifle were unique experiences you never used them else where in the campaign.

what KZ3 needs is a 7-10 hour campaign even on easy, with much better enemy AI, and the use of any weapon you find on the battle field unique weapons and others.

Oh but there are no aliens in Killzone.

Ya, they just need more guns. I basically used one gun throughout KZ2.

Ya, they just need more guns. I basically used one gun throughout KZ2.

Chutebox

Exactly what I did.

alien weapons work pretty well in halo due to the whole shield mechanic.

Cant say i have ever seen them implemented well into another game off the top of my head.

That's a good question nerv.

Killzone 2 did have some science-fiction like weapons and gadgets though:

- Electricity gun
- Electricity grenades
- Exo-suit
- Cloaking
- Materializing AI turrets
- Air bots
- Medic reviving gun
- Anti-gravity vehicles

I don't think there needs to be so many weapons with plasma and lasers, I love the styIe of Killzone the way it is. But being realistic, 3-500 years into the future, I'm pretty sure we won't be using bullets in our guns or tires on our vehicles lol. This goes for Halo too, which is 500 years into the future.

alien weapons work pretty well in halo due to the whole shield mechanic.

Cant say i have ever seen them implemented well into another game off the top of my head.

markinthedark

That's a good question nerv.

Killzone 2 did have some science-fiction like weapons and gadgets though:

- Electricity gun
- Electricity grenades
- Exo-suit
- Cloaking
- Materializing AI turrets
- Air bots
- Medic reviving gun
- Anti-gravity vehicles

I don't think there needs to be so many weapons with plasma and lasers, I love the styIe of Killzone the way it is. But being realistic, 3-500 years into the future, I'm pretty sure we won't be using bullets in our guns or tires on our vehicles lol. This goes for Halo too, which is 500 years into the future.

TREAL_Since

by that time there wont be guns in the traditional sense, it will all be unmanned drones fighting.

Ya, they just need more guns. I basically used one gun throughout KZ2.

Chutebox

I'm pretty sure there will be a lot of guns in Killzone 3. GG said they're revisiting guns from Killzone 1 and there will be 6 weapons (and abilities) per cIass in the multiplayer. In KZ2 there were only 2 per cIass. So, that's 30 weapons and abilities overall :).

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That's a good question nerv.

Killzone 2 did have some science-fiction like weapons and gadgets though:

- Electricity gun
- Electricity grenades
- Exo-suit
- Cloaking
- Materializing AI turrets
- Air bots
- Medic reviving gun
- Anti-gravity vehicles

I don't think there needs to be so many weapons with plasma and lasers, I love the styIe of Killzone the way it is. But being realistic, 3-500 years into the future, I'm pretty sure we won't be using bullets in our guns or tires on our vehicles lol. This goes for Halo too, which is 500 years into the future.

markinthedark

by that time there wont be guns in the traditional sense, it will all be unmanned drones fighting.

Exactly. That's a point I was going to elaborate on, but decided not to :P.

no killzone 2 had em it had some really good weapons too..the problem is most of the unique weapons? appeared once in the single player and you never ever used them again. which is a testament to how short it is, on easy or Normal it was about a 5 hour run with just the knife, using other weapons like the alien ones like the one lightning gun when you had to use them.. sadly those weapons even the sniper rifle were unique experiences you never used them else where in the campaign.

what KZ3 needs is a 7-10 hour campaign even on easy, with much better enemy AI, and the use of any weapon you find on the battle field unique weapons and others.

WilliamRLBaker

KZ needs more weapons. And it needs to get rid of the UAVs.

KZ needs more weapons. And it needs to get rid of the UAVs.

erglesmergle

UAV :?

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no killzone 2 had em it had some really good weapons too..the problem is most of the unique weapons? appeared once in the single player and you never ever used them again. which is a testament to how short it is, on easy or Normal it was about a 5 hour run with just the knife, using other weapons like the alien ones like the one lightning gun when you had to use them.. sadly those weapons even the sniper rifle were unique experiences you never used them else where in the campaign.

what KZ3 needs is a 7-10 hour campaign even on easy, with much better enemy AI, and the use of any weapon you find on the battle field unique weapons and others.

Animal-Mother

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no killzone 2 had em it had some really good weapons too..the problem is most of the unique weapons? appeared once in the single player and you never ever used them again. which is a testament to how short it is, on easy or Normal it was about a 5 hour run with just the knife, using other weapons like the alien ones like the one lightning gun when you had to use them.. sadly those weapons even the sniper rifle were unique experiences you never used them else where in the campaign.

what KZ3 needs is a 7-10 hour campaign even on easy, with much better enemy AI, and the use of any weapon you find on the battle field unique weapons and others.

WilliamRLBaker

Lol, A) It was not THAT easy B) I agree with the weapons C) Once again the campaign had good length, and i've played FPS games before Who are you to say for people who haven't played an FPS it would be longer than others? The first mistake was saying on easy it's 5 hours. I could play any game beat it in 5 hours on easy.Animal-Mother

he's a lem. he's been suspended countless of times because of that. pay him no heed.

even on Normal, Radec was a pain. easy? my foot. i bet he can't finish the game in under 5 hours.

Killzone 2 was not easy at all. People saying otherwise are full of ****.

Killzone 2 was not easy at all. People saying otherwise are full of ****.

NoobisMaxcimus

Yes, more unique guns the better.

I agree with this thread; all the guns especially the ones that use bullets seem so standard and old for game that is set 600 years in the future. They could at least at in a bullet counter display on the side of the gun or something or add some new looking and shaped design or a future looking sight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GMOTrIjVao at 0:40. SOmething like the c14 impaler gauss rifle in Starcraft. They dont have to add a sound effect though :)

The more guns the better.

Oh God no, that would ruin the game for me ... I'm not a big sci fi guy so I'd rather see the game keep it's current identity.

Not really. It's a game that takes place on an alien planet in the future, but that's the only sci-fi part about it. It's not supposed to be a star wars game.

I would be happy if they just bring back all the weapons from Killzone 1 and 2ndary fire...

Not really. It's a game that takes place on an alien planet in the future, but that's the only sci-fi part about it. It's not supposed to be a star wars game.

Pug-Nasty

But it's 600 years in the future. And the Helghast aren't aliens. But I don't want laser guns, thats lame.

Railgun/Gauss gun could be nice. Some sound wave weapon is also cool.

Lasers and plasma-based weapons generally look stupid so I wouldn't like them in KZ.

nah i think its good. The whole literary theme of the series is 'nazis in space', so having laser beams and lightsabers and that sort of stuff will kill the appeal.

More guns please

nah i think its good. The whole literary theme of the series is 'nazis in space', so having laser beams and lightsabers and that sort of stuff will kill the appeal.

PSdual_wielder

Yep, more bolt-action and semi-auto rifles with ironsights only would be cool. :) Far more awesome weapons than assault rifles.

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Not really. It's a game that takes place on an alien planet in the future, but that's the only sci-fi part about it. It's not supposed to be a star wars game.

NoobisMaxcimus

But it's 600 years in the future. And the Helghast aren't aliens. But I don't want laser guns, thats lame.

wait,aren't the helghast originally from Vetka. so wouldn't that still make them alien? I watch star trek,and their are a lot of alien races that look very smiliar to aliens.

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Not really. It's a game that takes place on an alien planet in the future, but that's the only sci-fi part about it. It's not supposed to be a star wars game.

TheShadowLord07

But it's 600 years in the future. And the Helghast aren't aliens. But I don't want laser guns, thats lame.

wait,aren't the helghast originally from Vetka. so wouldn't that still make them alien? I watch star trek,and their are a lot of alien races that look very smiliar to aliens.

The Helghast are human. They immigrated to Vekta from Earth.

wait,aren't the helghast originally from Vetka. so wouldn't that still make them alien? I watch star trek,and their are a lot of alien races that look very smiliar to aliens.

TheShadowLord07

They are originally from Earth. There are no aliens in the franchise if you don't count those big insects on Helghan.

The Helghast are human. They immigrated to Vekta from Earth.

NoobisMaxcimus

oh well i really dont understand the storyline for killzone. i was assuming they were from vetka after the ending of killzone 2

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no killzone 2 had em it had some really good weapons too..the problem is most of the unique weapons? appeared once in the single player and you never ever used them again. which is a testament to how short it is, on easy or Normal it was about a 5 hour run with just the knife, using other weapons like the alien ones like the one lightning gun when you had to use them.. sadly those weapons even the sniper rifle were unique experiences you never used them else where in the campaign.

what KZ3 needs is a 7-10 hour campaign even on easy, with much better enemy AI, and the use of any weapon you find on the battle field unique weapons and others.

WilliamRLBaker

NO! Alien weapons are lame. Killzone was trying to mimic what war in the future would probably look like (or at least SOMEWHAT realistic). We've been using bullets for hundreds of years, so what makes people think laser type weapons are gonna be the norm in the future?

Killzone has it's weapon designs almost perfect for it's futuristic, junk-punk universe. More "alien" type weapons would do nothing but make the game more generic to other futuristic FPS titles. All KZ3 needs to do is bring out MORE weapons of the same concept (Already have the Minigun and the W.A.S.P. confirmed as new weapons), and re-introduce weapons that were in KZ1.

With the Flamethrower, Boltgun, Electric Gun, Sniper Rifle, Minigun, W.A.S.P., Shock Grenades, and probably a few other we don't know about, there will be more than enough "power" weapons available to keep the experience fresh. It's just up to the players to put down the freakin' M82 Assault Rifle, and actually USE the weapons available to them! (It would also help if GG added them in more often).

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Killzone 2 was not easy at all. People saying otherwise are full of ****.

Animal-Mother

I played it on normal and it was far from easy and was much longer than 5 hours.

And I've played plenty of FPS games.

NO! Alien weapons are lame. Killzone was trying to mimic what war in the future would probably look like (or at least SOMEWHAT realistic). We've been using bullets for hundreds of years, so what makes people think laser type weapons are gonna be the norm in the future?

Killzone has it's weapon designs almost perfect for it's futuristic, junk-punk universe. More "alien" type weapons would do nothing but make the game more generic to other futuristic FPS titles. All KZ3 needs to do is bring out MORE weapons of the same concept (Already have the Minigun and the W.A.S.P. confirmed as new weapons), and re-introduce weapons that were in KZ1.

With the Flamethrower, Boltgun, Electric Gun, Sniper Rifle, Minigun, W.A.S.P., Shock Grenades, and probably a few other we don't know about, there will be more than enough "power" weapons available to keep the experience fresh. It's just up to the players to put down the freakin' M82 Assault Rifle, and actually USE the weapons available to them! (It would also help if GG added them in more often).

I played it on normal and it was far from easy and was much longer than 5 hours.

And I've played plenty of FPS games.

Chutebox

I think KZ2 was kinda easy when playing on normal (whatever it was called). I was bothered only by ATAC (until I found that infamous tunnel under the roof) and Radec.

Elite is a completely different experience though. That is the real way to play KZ2.

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I played it on normal and it was far from easy and was much longer than 5 hours.

And I've played plenty of FPS games.

Orchid87

I think KZ2 was kinda easy when playing on normal (whatever it was called). I was bothered only by ATAC (until I found that infamous tunnel under the roof) and Radec.

Elite is a completely different experience though. That is the real way to play KZ2.

Hard and Elite modes, ftw. Normal can be difficult when first trying to learn the controls, but I played the crap out of the demo (which was set to Easy by standard), so I got used to them before retail was released. Normal can be a cake walk at times once you get the game's "feeling" down, but Elite always has me on the edge whenever I turn a corner.

yes, it needs lasers, that are basically the speed of light, that you can still dodge.

yes, it needs lasers, that are basically the speed of light, that you can still dodge.

dxmcat

The primary ISA gun was the standout, I basically used that for the whole game.

they need to make sure other weapons are as good as the main ISA gun or even feels better.