Does Nintendo need to be stopped?

[QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"]

prrf, I never even liked gta iv and if AC is so hardcore why do they have girls playing it in the adverts.

IronBass

What exactly has to do the fact that there are girls playing it in the adverts with how "core" a game is?

Exactly, how old are you? I can't believe that a mature person uses that as argument.

If they show girls playing it in an advert surely that means it is advertised towards girls and the audience who play it are girls. Its like how you wouldn't see a boy in a barbie advert.

Nobody asked what you liked but the thought of a 28 year old man playing games made for 10 year old girls makes me shiver.

Solid_Snake300

That only proves how casual you are. Don't ever talk of "hardcore gamers" again, because you have proven you are not one.

yep damm you got me sorry

bf2nutta

You should know better...saying Wii games are games. You know NMH is kiddy and Zack & Wiki is a mini-game collection.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"]

prrf, I never even liked gta iv and if AC is so hardcore why do they have girls playing it in the adverts.

Solid_Snake300

What exactly has to do the fact that there are girls playing it in the adverts with how "core" a game is?

Exactly, how old are you? I can't believe that a mature person uses that as argument.

If they show girls playing it in an advert surely that means it is advertised towards girls and the audience who play it are girls. Its like how you wouldn't see a boy in a barbie advert.

[QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"][QUOTE="MagnuzGuerra"][QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"]

Agreed, I dont know who told that Reggie guy Animal Crossing is hardcore.

air_wolf_cubed

How old are you?, if you are above the age of 10 and you like AC something isnt right, but you must be young as you were scared to write crap.

Nobody asked what you liked but the thought of a 28 year old man playing games made for 10 year old girls makes me shiver. Can you change you're sig? it's so annoying and unfunny.

Because grown men should not play games made for girls, Nintendo are obviously looking for girls to play games like AC thats why they were so proud to mention 48% of their gamers are girls in their conference.

If they show girls playing it in an advert surely that means it is advertised towards girls and the audience who play it are girls. Its like how you wouldn't see a boy in a barbie advert.

Solid_Snake300

1) Not necessary.

2) Audience it is avertised =/= quality.

In movies works exactly so, for example:

Disney's Fantasia is a lot better than, for example, The Dawn of the Dead.

[QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"][QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"]

prrf, I never even liked gta iv and if AC is so hardcore why do they have girls playing it in the adverts.

air_wolf_cubed

What exactly has to do the fact that there are girls playing it in the adverts with how "core" a game is?

Exactly, how old are you? I can't believe that a mature person uses that as argument.

If they show girls playing it in an advert surely that means it is advertised towards girls and the audience who play it are girls. Its like how you wouldn't see a boy in a barbie advert.

I dont like WOW and she can play what she wants but I still dont think its normal.

[QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"]

Nobody asked what you liked but the thought of a 28 year old man playing games made for 10 year old girls makes me shiver.

IronBass

How?, why are Nintendo fans so weird, you seem to think you are so hardcore tell me what consoles do you have?.

That only proves how casual you are. Don't ever talk of "hardcore gamers" again, because you have proven you are not one.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"]

prrf, I never even liked gta iv and if AC is so hardcore why do they have girls playing it in the adverts.

Solid_Snake300

What exactly has to do the fact that there are girls playing it in the adverts with how "core" a game is?

Exactly, how old are you? I can't believe that a mature person uses that as argument.

If they show girls playing it in an advert surely that means it is advertised towards girls and the audience who play it are girls. Its like how you wouldn't see a boy in a barbie advert.

Wait, so a girl cant be a "hardcore"(I hate that term) gamer? Isnt that logic a little flawed?

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"][QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"]

prrf, I never even liked gta iv and if AC is so hardcore why do they have girls playing it in the adverts.

Solid_Snake300

What exactly has to do the fact that there are girls playing it in the adverts with how "core" a game is?

Exactly, how old are you? I can't believe that a mature person uses that as argument.

If they show girls playing it in an advert surely that means it is advertised towards girls and the audience who play it are girls. Its like how you wouldn't see a boy in a barbie advert.

I dont like WOW and she can play what she wants but I still dont think its normal.

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"][QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"]

prrf, I never even liked gta iv and if AC is so hardcore why do they have girls playing it in the adverts.

Solid_Snake300

What exactly has to do the fact that there are girls playing it in the adverts with how "core" a game is?

Exactly, how old are you? I can't believe that a mature person uses that as argument.

If they show girls playing it in an advert surely that means it is advertised towards girls and the audience who play it are girls. Its like how you wouldn't see a boy in a barbie advert.

I dont like WOW and she can play what she wants but I still dont think its normal.

You see that is the beauty of a free democratic world. No one gives a rats a$$ what YOU think.

prrf, I never even liked gta iv and if AC is so hardcore why do they have girls playing it in the adverts.

Solid_Snake300

I hope your comment is not sexist, as it is wrong to believe that females cannot be "hardcore" gamers. They do exist.

[QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"][QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"]

prrf, I never even liked gta iv and if AC is so hardcore why do they have girls playing it in the adverts.

mubarakibnumar

What exactly has to do the fact that there are girls playing it in the adverts with how "core" a game is?

Exactly, how old are you? I can't believe that a mature person uses that as argument.

If they show girls playing it in an advert surely that means it is advertised towards girls and the audience who play it are girls. Its like how you wouldn't see a boy in a barbie advert.

I dont like WOW and she can play what she wants but I still dont think its normal.

You see that is the beauty of a free democratic world. No one gives a rats a$$ what YOU think.

And?, i was only saying I dont think its normal but she can do whatever pleases her.

Anyone playing any video game is normal. Triple H playing a Mickey Mouse game is normal so long as he thhnks its funair_wolf_cubed

Dude, thank you for giving me the most awesome mental image.:lol:

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"]

Nobody asked what you liked but the thought of a 28 year old man playing games made for 10 year old girls makes me shiver.

Solid_Snake300

How?, why are Nintendo fans so weird, you seem to think you are so hardcore tell me what consoles do you have?.

That only proves how casual you are. Don't ever talk of "hardcore gamers" again, because you have proven you are not one.

Yeah, we like to enjoy good games, despite if they are called "kiddish" or "casual" by a SW poster, we are really weird :roll: Besides, I'm also a proud owner of a 360. You can check my gamertag, if you wish: IronBass2099

Besides, you 've already lost all possible respect in this forums with such declarations.

Whatever I cant be bothered to waste my time having this gay argument with you, just go play Wii music and I will go and play MGS.Solid_Snake300

Whatever I cant be bothered to waste my time having this gay argument with you, just go play Wii music and I will go and play MGS.Solid_Snake300

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"]Whatever I cant be bothered to waste my time having this gay argument with you, just go play Wii music and I will go and play MGS.Solid_Snake300

Pwned?, who says that, go on living you're messed up life where childish games are fun and chinese people are funny.

MagnuzGuerra, I'm sorry you got insulted like that. It was completely uncalled for. No, it wasnt me that said that, but I am still embarrassed by Solid_Snake300's comments toward you. You didnt deserve that at all.

Solid_Snake300... you are digging yourself a serious, serious hole, man. A gamer is a gamer, whether casual or hardcore, male or female, young or old. I wouldnt dare try to trounce someone elses opinions or rights. I only state my opinions about issues like this if its directly affecting me. And even then you should try and respect other peoples feelings, as well.

Also, as far as the concerns I stated earlier, I am no longer worried. Thanks to SecretPolice's always informative posts, I just found out I dont HAVE to go with the avatars, its only optional. My personal crisis with this has been resolved. Yay! :D

Wow, more talk about Nintendo ruining gaming.

First of all, how? Doesn't everyone agree Nintendo is catering to the casuals, gathering a whole NEW audience? The old 'hardcore' audience of 360 and PS3 should not be effected. Remember, Nintendo did the Blue Ocean strategy while PS3 and 360 did Red Ocean. In other words, Nintendo should have NO EFFECT on what 360 and Ps3 are doing.

Now, if somehow you believe that Nintendo success is invading your hardcore experience on your 360 or PS3, you have NO ONE TO BLAME BUT MS/SONY.

What did you want Nintendo to do? Abandon the motion controls for a graphic card? That would be insane because they would just come in third again.

Sony and MS can do their own thing. They are catering to the same consumer base as last gen. Nintendo got their old one and has found a whole bunch of brand new consumers.

And those new people wouldn't be jumping to 360/PS3 if Wii wasn't around.

MagnuzGuerra, I'm sorry you got insulted like that. It was completely uncalled for. No, it wasnt me that said that, but I am still embarrassed by Solid_Snake300's comments toward you. You didnt deserve that at all.

JediRiff

[QUOTE="JediRiff"]

MagnuzGuerra, I'm sorry you got insulted like that. It was completely uncalled for. No, it wasnt me that said that, but I am still embarrassed by Solid_Snake300's comments toward you. You didnt deserve that at all.

MagnuzGuerra

Exctly Magnuz. I like the catering to the old as well as the new. I actually wish there were more 2D games. I think 2D gaming is almost a lost art. Im exciting for Megaman and Wario Shake it. Nintendo is totally catering to the hardcore with Wario. I thought they did as well with Super Paper Mario. I like all the systems.

Plus, i think its funny how you made that Cow cry.

[QUOTE="BubbyJello"]

[QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"]Sony and Microsoft might follow them and go where the money is. air_wolf_cubed

Making quality games for both the Casual and Hardcore gamers?

Sounds good to me.

We have too many teens. Hardcore isn't defined as violent/gory. If thats the case, then there weren't any hardcore games released until like Mortal Kombat... which is clearly a bogus argument. LMAO the gore rule means that Killer Instinct and Mortal Kombat (some of the most basic, no skill fighting games ever made) are more hardcore than Street Fighter, Tekken, Soul Caliber and Virtua Fighter. Dead or Alive gets a pass for excessive half naked women (because nothing says mature gamer like jumping breast and buckets of blood). Clearly hardcore has nothing to do with gore. Its about skill required and things like that. Nintendo hasn't really let anyone down in that department unless you want to pretend that the only games they've made this gen were Wii Sports and Mario Party.

[QUOTE="BubbyJello"]

[QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"]Sony and Microsoft might follow them and go where the money is. air_wolf_cubed

Making quality games for both the Casual and Hardcore gamers?

Sounds good to me.

[QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"]Sony and Microsoft might follow them and go where the money is. BubbyJello

Making quality games for both the Casual and Hardcore gamers?

Sounds good to me.

Animal Crossing isnt hardcore.

[QUOTE="MagnuzGuerra"]No, I think you need to be stopped. Enough with the "Nitendo is ruining gaming" cr*p.air_wolf_cubed

Whatever I cant be bothered to waste my time having this gay argument with you, just go play Wii music and I will go and play MGS.Solid_Snake300

[QUOTE="MagnuzGuerra"][QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"]

Agreed, I dont know who told that Reggie guy Animal Crossing is hardcore.

Solid_Snake300

How old are you?, if you are above the age of 10 and you like AC something isnt right, but you must be young as you were scared to write crap.

:roll: AC is a pretty good series and it can be lot of fun at times. And now it probably going to improve more with AC Wii.

[QUOTE="BubbyJello"]

[QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"]Sony and Microsoft might follow them and go where the money is. shadyd1717

Making quality games for both the Casual and Hardcore gamers?

Sounds good to me.

Animal Crossing isnt hardcore.

[QUOTE="BubbyJello"]

[QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"]Sony and Microsoft might follow them and go where the money is. shadyd1717

Making quality games for both the Casual and Hardcore gamers?

Sounds good to me.

Animal Crossing isnt hardcore.

That's highly debateable.

That's highly debateable.

IronBass

[QUOTE="BubbyJello"]

[QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"]Sony and Microsoft might follow them and go where the money is. shadyd1717

Making quality games for both the Casual and Hardcore gamers?

Sounds good to me.

Animal Crossing isnt hardcore.

[QUOTE="shadyd1717"][QUOTE="BubbyJello"]

[QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"]Sony and Microsoft might follow them and go where the money is. darkslider99

Making quality games for both the Casual and Hardcore gamers?

Sounds good to me.

Animal Crossing isnt hardcore.

Because it doesn't require the thought and dedication of beating it like getting all 120 stars in Galaxy does, enough multiplayer to rival Call of Duty 4, or have the sharp wit that Portal possesses.

Nintendo sold out to the casual, Animal Crossing is a casual mini-Sims, end of story. I wish I could say otherwise because I really want a Starfox or Donkey Kong, but it's not gonna happen this gen.

Animal Crossing isnt hardcore.

shadyd1717

I personally don't think a 'game' can be hardcore. I think a player can be though. Just because you buy a 'hardcore' game you become one? A hardcore gamer is someone that can openly appreciate games, and open to play them because they love 'games'.

I like Animal Crossing. I think its fun. On the GC, you can create your own clothes. Help build the town. Design the landscape as you want. Intereact with characters. Travel to the island on play on your GBA. And you could earn classic nintendo games and play them just like the virtual console. So this game has elements of Sims, utilizes a handheld, has much creativity allowed, and classic gaming.

Sounds pretty hardcore to me. In fact, what makes it NOT hardcore? Lack of guns and blood?

[QUOTE="darkslider99"][QUOTE="shadyd1717"][QUOTE="BubbyJello"]

[QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"]Sony and Microsoft might follow them and go where the money is. shadyd1717

Making quality games for both the Casual and Hardcore gamers?

Sounds good to me.

Animal Crossing isnt hardcore.

Because it doesn't require the thought and dedication of beating it like getting all 120 stars in Galaxy does, enough multiplayer to rival Call of Duty 4, or have the sharp wit that Portal possesses.

Because it doesn't require the thought and dedication of beating it like getting all 120 stars in Galaxy does, enough multiplayer to rival Call of Duty 4, or have the sharp wit that Portal possesses.

Nintendo sold out to the casual, Animal Crossing is a casual mini-Sims, end of story. I wish I could say otherwise because I really want a Starfox or Donkey Kong, but it's not gonna happen this gen.

shadyd1717

I'd like to see a Star Fox game too. But I thought the GC one was weird and more like a dinosaur game and StarFox just crowbarred in.

What was the DK game for the GC?

[QUOTE="darkslider99"][QUOTE="shadyd1717"][QUOTE="BubbyJello"]

[QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"]Sony and Microsoft might follow them and go where the money is. shadyd1717

Making quality games for both the Casual and Hardcore gamers?

Sounds good to me.

Animal Crossing isnt hardcore.

Because it doesn't require the thought and dedication of beating it like getting all 120 stars in Galaxy does, enough multiplayer to rival Call of Duty 4, or have the sharp wit that Portal possesses.

Nintendo sold out to the casual, Animal Crossing is a casual mini-Sims, end of story. I wish I could say otherwise because I really want a Starfox or Donkey Kong, but it's not gonna happen this gen.

Animal Crossing is incredibly complex and deph. No "casual gamer" could understand its complexity. IMO, GTAIV is more casual than AC: GTAIV is "in", "cool", what everybody plays, is about killing people on the streets, and, of course, all the marketing.

Sounds a lot more casual, IMO.

A casual gamer would say: "AC? Childish! Easy! Uncool! Ugly graphics! let's play GTAIV!"

Only a hardcore (a gamer that knows that the most important is gameplay) would give credit to AC.

Oh, I guarantee you need plenty dedication in Animal Crossing if you want to see half of what the game offers.MagnuzGuerra

Sheez. i remember i missed 2 days and i was picking weeds until midnight. i wanted my perfect town score back. If anything, the game is TOO MUCH dedication. (but i did discover the ghost that late at night. That was cool.)

[QUOTE="shadyd1717"]

Because it doesn't require the thought and dedication of beating it like getting all 120 stars in Galaxy does, enough multiplayer to rival Call of Duty 4, or have the sharp wit that Portal possesses.

Nintendo sold out to the casual, Animal Crossing is a casual mini-Sims, end of story. I wish I could say otherwise because I really want a Starfox or Donkey Kong, but it's not gonna happen this gen.

flazzle

I'd like to see a Star Fox game too. But I thought the GC one was weird and more like a dinosaur game and StarFox just crowbarred in.

What was the DK game for the GC?

Jungle Beatair_wolf_cubed

Exactly. And Donkey Konga. I want to see if he argues Jungle Beat wasn't 'casual'.

Because it doesn't require the thought and dedication of beating it like getting all 120 stars in Galaxy does, enough multiplayer to rival Call of Duty 4, or have the sharp wit that Portal possesses.

Nintendo sold out to the casual, Animal Crossing is a casual mini-Sims, end of story. I wish I could say otherwise because I really want a Starfox or Donkey Kong, but it's not gonna happen this gen.

shadyd1717

[QUOTE="shadyd1717"]

Because it doesn't require the thought and dedication of beating it like getting all 120 stars in Galaxy does, enough multiplayer to rival Call of Duty 4, or have the sharp wit that Portal possesses.

Nintendo sold out to the casual, Animal Crossing is a casual mini-Sims, end of story. I wish I could say otherwise because I really want a Starfox or Donkey Kong, but it's not gonna happen this gen.

flazzle

I'd like to see a Star Fox game too. But I thought the GC one was weird and more like a dinosaur game and StarFox just crowbarred in.

What was the DK game for the GC?

MP3 = Hardcore
SSBB = Hardcore, but only good if you have friends that still play in one room, the singleplayer doesnt cut it.
Paper Mario = Hardcore
Mario Kart Wii = Casual
SMG = Hardcore
Strikers = Lame
Warioware = Lame
Pikmin & Icarus I doubt will make it till the end of 09' atleast.

I only have Galaxy, Twilight Princess, and No More Heroes. No more Heroes is one of the worst games i've ever played, Galaxy and TP are great but it's 2 games compared to the 14 i have for PS3. Yes if they had Starfox or Donkey Kong i'd be happy with my Wii. And I mean true N64 successors, not stupid spin-off's.

[QUOTE="shadyd1717"][QUOTE="darkslider99"][QUOTE="shadyd1717"][QUOTE="BubbyJello"]

[QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"]Sony and Microsoft might follow them and go where the money is. IronBass

Making quality games for both the Casual and Hardcore gamers?

Sounds good to me.

Animal Crossing isnt hardcore.

Because it doesn't require the thought and dedication of beating it like getting all 120 stars in Galaxy does, enough multiplayer to rival Call of Duty 4, or have the sharp wit that Portal possesses.

Nintendo sold out to the casual, Animal Crossing is a casual mini-Sims, end of story. I wish I could say otherwise because I really want a Starfox or Donkey Kong, but it's not gonna happen this gen.

Animal Crossing is incredibly complex and deph. No "casual gamer" could understand its complexity. IMO, GTAIV is more casual than AC: GTAIV is "in", "cool", what everybody plays, is about killing people on the streets, and, of course, all the marketing.

Sounds a lot more casual, IMO.

A casual gamer would say: "AC? Childish! Easy! Uncool! Ugly graphics! let's play GTAIV!"

Only a hardcore (a gamer that knows that the most important is gameplay) would give credit to AC.

I never said GTA4 wasnt casual. GTA is one of the most casual series ever, however AC is also casual, just to a different kind of casual. There's blood/action casual, and there's lets have fun playtime with little jimmy and aunt mary casual. AC is the latter.

wow, i've never heard that before:|

Why can't people see that the wii isn't simply a casual system? There are a lot of games for every one on there.

I never said GTA4 wasnt casual. GTA is one of the most casual series ever, however AC is also casual, just to a different kind of casual. There's blood/action casual, and there's lets have fun playtime with little jimmy and aunt mary casual. AC is the latter.

shadyd1717

Ah, ok. You got a good point, there are some types of "casual games". But not necessary for being "childish" thay are casual or bad games. The whole complexity, deph and dedication needed make AC a hardcore game.

[QUOTE="flazzle"][QUOTE="shadyd1717"]

Because it doesn't require the thought and dedication of beating it like getting all 120 stars in Galaxy does, enough multiplayer to rival Call of Duty 4, or have the sharp wit that Portal possesses.

Nintendo sold out to the casual, Animal Crossing is a casual mini-Sims, end of story. I wish I could say otherwise because I really want a Starfox or Donkey Kong, but it's not gonna happen this gen.

shadyd1717

I'd like to see a Star Fox game too. But I thought the GC one was weird and more like a dinosaur game and StarFox just crowbarred in.

What was the DK game for the GC?

MP3 = Hardcore
SSBB = Hardcore, but only good if you have friends that still play in one room, the singleplayer doesnt cut it.
Paper Mario = Hardcore
Mario Kart Wii = Casual
SMG = Hardcore
Strikers = Lame
Warioware = Lame
Pikmin & Icarus I doubt will make it till the end of 09' atleast.

I only have Galaxy, Twilight Princess, and No More Heroes. No more Heroes is one of the worst games i've ever played, Galaxy and TP are great but it's 2 games compared to the 14 i have for PS3. Yes if they had Starfox or Donkey Kong i'd be happy with my Wii. And I mean true N64 successors, not stupid spin-off's.

Mario Kart Wii is more of Causal/Hardcore thing.