Does Power determines Pricing? Will you spend $600+ on PS4/720?

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#51 ShadowDeathX
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[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]<$300 or NO!! Consoles are suppose to be cheap gaming machines. Don't give me a platform that tries to replace my PC and fails at it. Give me a cheap machine with some good innovation and good exclusive games. That is what I want.

Even a $400 console would be cheaper than one of your graphics cards.

That is true but I'm willing to spend that much on my primary gaming platform. Consoles are secondary so I'm willing to spend less. I just want the Japanese games and Fighting games that consoles provide.
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#52 YearoftheSnake5
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Power ususally comes with a higher price tag. I wouldn't pay over $400 for a new console, though. For anything more, I could significantly upgrade my PC.

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#53 SolidTy
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I've said this for a few years, but I'll say it again PS4/720 will probably release for $299-$399.

Krazy Ken is gone, Sony's not listening to an engineer turned mad scientist anymore. ;) :P

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#54 Cherokee_Jack
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Well, a. I would wait for the price to go down if it was that expensive, and b. I wouldn't buy a console that cost $600 only to watch the company go down in flames.
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#55 Giancar
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I am fine with a $400 price point console The 360 did the job in an excellent way. It's not like we need $600+ consoles to have good hardware :?
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#56 Enforcer246
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No, because I have bills to pay and other responsibilities besides playing video games all day.

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#57 Inconsistancy
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No, I don't think there's a chance that the 720 will be anywhere near that expensive especially with MS' Live subscription subsidized console pricing model. And I also doubt the PS4 will be 600$ either, due to the damage is did to Sony early on last gen. Even if they're both powerful, they both should be focusing on services to get their money back while taking an initial hit on hardware cost.
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#58 BlendThree
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I was just reading an article on how cloud gaming may be a much bigger influence on the next generation and if that proves to be the case hardware would cost exponentially less than what we're used to. In fact it wouldn't be uncommon to encounter deals that give you the hardware free with a service subscription. In fact cloud gaming would in essence change the whole home console model from the razor/ blades dynamic to more of what we currently see with cell phones.

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#59 MikeMoose
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Yes, I probably would. As long as I have a little extra cash saved up.

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#60 psymon100
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I was just reading an article on how cloud gaming may be a much bigger influence on the next generation and if that proves to be the case hardware would cost exponentially less than what we're used to. In fact it wouldn't be uncommon to encounter deals that give you the hardware free with a service subscription. In fact cloud gaming would in essence change the whole home console model from the razor/ blades dynamic to more of what we currently see with cell phones.

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I have thought about this too. Cloud gaming presents some unusual pros and cons, but one significant pro is that something like the PS360 is a viable piece of hardware for cloud gaming. In a way, I kind of wonder if the next gen will just be a stop gap until they can implement cloud gaming sufficiently to avoid releasing new end user hardware eg: quell the need for another 'gen'.
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#61 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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I have no issue paying £350-450 for a console as long as its worth it from a technological perspective.
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#62 Cranler
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[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"][QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]<$300 or NO!! Consoles are suppose to be cheap gaming machines. Don't give me a platform that tries to replace my PC and fails at it. Give me a cheap machine with some good innovation and good exclusive games. That is what I want.

Even a $400 console would be cheaper than one of your graphics cards.

That is true but I'm willing to spend that much on my primary gaming platform. Consoles are secondary so I'm willing to spend less. I just want the Japanese games and Fighting games that consoles provide.

The higher the price the better those Japanese and fighting games will look.
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#63 Cranler
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No, I don't think there's a chance that the 720 will be anywhere near that expensive especially with MS' Live subscription subsidized console pricing model. And I also doubt the PS4 will be 600$ either, due to the damage is did to Sony early on last gen. Even if they're both powerful, they both should be focusing on services to get their money back while taking an initial hit on hardware cost. Inconsistancy
ps3 wont be $600 because theirs no new disc format this time around. Stand alone blu ray players in 2006 were $800+ and had slower accesstimes than ps 3.
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#64 GamerwillzPS
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I'd rather to spend that money upgrading my PC.

I'd buy consoles only if they have decent exclusives at a lower price.

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#65 Ricardomz
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Damn, that's too much money for a console. And we are on economical crisis, so I doubt they'll do something that expensive.

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#67 Nonstop-Madness
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In a sense it does. I don't mind paying $400 or $500 for a console but only ifs it worth it and hardware is pretty important early on.
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#68 deactivated-609eda8a7edd0
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Far to much money to pay for a console. For a extra $200 or less I will be able to buy a PC which will have better hardware and games will look better in both visual and gameplay departments. Personally I believe that a console should be no more than $400 and with the high likely that the price of games will be jacked up paying anymore will just cause console gaming to be far to expensive in the long run.
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#69 YoshiYogurt
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probably not getting 720 or ps4, i'll probably add a ps2 to my collection and get some old games and play at my own pace.
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#70 chaoz-king
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I won't even look into buy one if I can't get it for $400 or under. Anything over I may as well just build a PC and get the better versions.
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#71 SuperFlakeman
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I look forward to the meltdowns when people realize all next gen consoles will be tablet based.

"Nintendo killed gaming, going PC"

Fun times ahead of us.

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#72 Joedgabe
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I'm pretty sure they can find cheap ways to sell a superior product than the 360 and ps3

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#73 SaltyMeatballs
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Will probably just go with PC and Wii U. Halo will tempt me for a 720 down the line.
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#74 rjdofu
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I'm pretty sure they can find cheap ways to sell a superior product than the 360 and ps3

Joedgabe

It's not hard to make a product superior to the 360 & ps3 at this point.

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#75 clyde46
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[QUOTE="Joedgabe"]

I'm pretty sure they can find cheap ways to sell a superior product than the 360 and ps3

rjdofu
It's not hard to make a superior product than the 360 & ps3 at this point.

It will be hard to emulate the success those two machines had.
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#76 loosingENDS
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Easilly, i dont want gtraphics like ZombiU and underpowered WiiU like hardware for next gen

WiiU is already obsolete the time it releases, PC has like 10x better hardware than that

I would pay 800$ if i was to get a system that will last me like xbox 360, with stunning looking games like Halo 4, Witcher 2 after 6+ years, games that WiiU cant even touch visually

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#77 lundy86_4
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Easilly, i dont want gtraphics like ZombiU and underpowered WiiU like hardware for next gen

loosingENDS

Cry more.

WiiU is already obsolete the time it releases, PC has like 10x better hardware than that

loosingENDS

It doesn't have the games you want. The most importantestest thing in life :cry:

I would pay 800$ if i was to get a system that will last me like xbox 360, with stunning looking games like Halo 4, Witcher 2 after 6+ years, games that WiiU cant even touch visually

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#78 stereointegrity
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sony learned its lesson with a 600$ console....i foresee 720 and ps4 being 400$
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#79 loosingENDS
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ZombiU vs PD0


I would gladly pay 600$ to get graphics than are not so vastly behind launch xbox 360 games

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#80 Jonwh18
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I look forward to the meltdowns when people realize all next gen consoles will be tablet based.

"Nintendo killed gaming, going PC"

Fun times ahead of us.

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#81 Pug-Nasty
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Probably not. Games suck too much to bother with new hardware.

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#82 Jonwh18
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ZombiU vs PD0


I would gladly pay 600$ to get graphics than are not so vastly behind launch xbox 360 games

loosingENDS

I think you need a PC then not another crappy microsoft console.

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#83 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

ZombiU vs PD0


I would gladly pay 600$ to get graphics than are not so vastly behind launch xbox 360 games

Jonwh18

I think you need a PC then not another crappy microsoft console.

Why waste money on PC when xbox gets the best graphics and games and all PC games i need ?

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#84 ronvalencia
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Does a high quality processor have a direct correlation with price?

If that is the case, will you spend $600+ on the PS4/720?

bbkkristian
Not with AMD APUs e.g. AMD Kaveri APU (with Radeon HD 7750 @900Mhz level GPU) replaces AMD A10 Trinity APU.
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#85 lundy86_4
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loosingENDS is showing his idiocy again. Sit down lE and don't ever converse on this forum again. You are dumb.

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#86 clyde46
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loosingENDS is showing his idiocy again. Sit down lE and don't ever converse on this forum again. You are dumb.

lundy86_4
NO! Let him continue. We need the lols!
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#87 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

loosingENDS is showing his idiocy again. Sit down lE and don't ever converse on this forum again. You are dumb.

clyde46

NO! Let him continue. We need the lols!

Fine. GOOOOOD! He is funny, I guess *grump*

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#88 loosingENDS
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A "next gen" 75 watt system LOL, that seems like a joke TBH

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#89 clyde46
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A "next gen" 75 watt system LOL, that seems like a joke TBH

loosingENDS
Its not far off a decent intergrated CPU and graphics chip.
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#90 Cherokee_Jack
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ZombiU vs PD0

I would gladly pay 600$ to get graphics than are not so vastly behind launch xbox 360 games

loosingENDS

I really hope one of these new consoles produces a Wall Guy equivalent.

2077416-wallguy_screen.jpg

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#91 g0ddyX
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If it does something special besides high specificatioms as an home entertaiment system..
ie. 4k, virtual reality, headsets, steam, holograms? Who knows...

Am sure people would pay a bit more for the extra edge and quality ;)

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#92 RR360DD
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Where are you getting this figure from? Your ass? Did the 360 launch at $600? No.
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#93 lundy86_4
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Where are you getting this figure from? Your ass? Did the 360 launch at $600? No.RR360DD

Talk about getting something from one's ass...

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]We have no idea how well the online system will work yet. A little early to be calling it inferior.RR360DD

Sorry bro, you're delusional if you think Nintendo are gonna come straight out with a service superior to XBL, something Microsoft has been working on since 2002.

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#94 RR360DD
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Talk about getting something from one's ass...

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]We have no idea how well the online system will work yet. A little early to be calling it inferior.lundy86_4

Sorry bro, you're delusional if you think Nintendo are gonna come straight out with a service superior to XBL, something Microsoft has been working on since 2002.

Prove me wrong then. Ive already debunked this idiot as only the PS3 launched at $600 and it was a disaster. So why don't you counter my argument saying that Nintendo will not come out with an online service superior to XBL.

Or are you talking out your ass?

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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Talk about getting something from one's ass...

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Sorry bro, you're delusional if you think Nintendo are gonna come straight out with a service superior to XBL, something Microsoft has been working on since 2002.

RR360DD

Prove me wrong then. Ive already debunked this idiot as only the PS3 launched at $600 and it was a disaster. So why don't you counter my argument saying that Nintendo will not come out with an online service superior to XBL.

Or are you talking out your ass?

Erm...

Wat8.jpg?1315930535

Learn very common debate practice. You make the assertion, you prove it. Are you f*cking stupid?

Did you graduate, or even attend post-secondary education (university level)? As seminar (debate) is practiced extensively.

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#96 Jonwh18
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Talk about getting something from one's ass...

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Sorry bro, you're delusional if you think Nintendo are gonna come straight out with a service superior to XBL, something Microsoft has been working on since 2002.

RR360DD

Prove me wrong then. Ive already debunked this idiot as only the PS3 launched at $600 and it was a disaster. So why don't you counter my argument saying that Nintendo will not come out with an online service superior to XBL.

Or are you talking out your ass?

its free BAM instantly superior as long as it has basic match making

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#97 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Jonwh18

Prove me wrong then. Ive already debunked this idiot as only the PS3 launched at $600 and it was a disaster. So why don't you counter my argument saying that Nintendo will not come out with an online service superior to XBL.

Or are you talking out your ass?

its free BAM instantly superior as long as it has basic match making

Sorry bro, I'm not talking value here. Try again.

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#98 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Prove me wrong then. Ive already debunked this idiot as only the PS3 launched at $600 and it was a disaster. So why don't you counter my argument saying that Nintendo will not come out with an online service superior to XBL.

Or are you talking out your ass?

RR360DD

its free BAM instantly superior as long as it has basic match making

Sorry bro, I'm not talking value here. Try again.

Except the topic is about SPENDING, which indicate value, genius. How much in minimum do you think a person have to pay for a launch xbox360 up until now. Oh wait... you can't think.
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#99 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

lundy86_4

Prove me wrong then. Ive already debunked this idiot as only the PS3 launched at $600 and it was a disaster. So why don't you counter my argument saying that Nintendo will not come out with an online service superior to XBL.

Or are you talking out your ass?

Erm...

Wat8.jpg?1315930535

Learn very common debate practice. You make the assertion, you prove it. Are you f*cking stupid?

Did you graduate, or even attend post-secondary education (university level)? As seminar (debate) is practiced extensively.

I'm asking you now: Do you think Nintendo will come out with an online service for the Wii U thats superior to XBL?

Now I said it wouldn't. And I'm basing that on facts such as Microsoft having much more experience in this area, Microsoft having been working on XBL since 2002 and the fact that Nintendo still doesn't seem to take online seriously. (A lot of their upcoming games have NO online)

Now you come in here saying I'm talking out my ass, thats an assertion you've made, so you fuking prove it. Go on, educate me on Nintendos sure-to-be-brilliant online service :lol:

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#100 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="Jonwh18"] its free BAM instantly superior as long as it has basic match making

rjdofu

Sorry bro, I'm not talking value here. Try again.

Except the topic is about SPENDING, which indicate value, genius. How much in minimum do you think a person have to pay for a launch xbox360 up until now. Oh wait... you can't think.

Listen bro, I never brought up XBL or Wii online in this topic. Lundy did, he quoted me from ANOTHER topic that was NOTHING to do with spending. So either keep up or shut the fuk up.