Does Sorcerer PS4 demo mean that PC hardware is useless ?

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#1 loosingENDS
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I mean PC cant have such graphics in its dreams, while PS4 can do it unoptimized at launch (which means will look 10x better later)

So, what is the purpose of a 1000$ GPU (2500$-3000$ PC) when you get the whole of PS4 for 399$ and will last 8-10 years and also have JRPGs that PC does not (and all major PC games like Witcher 3)

I cant understand how one can pay 10x more to get 10x less

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#2 menes777
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Hmmm it's a bit funny how consolites dismiss demos on PC but play them up on consoles.  :roll:

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#3 UCF_Knight
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This is poor trolling.
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#4 Suppaman100
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Weren't you a lemming? Nice to see you chose for redemption by choosing PS4. Anyway, PC will always own consoles graphics wise.
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#6 heretrix
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It's a tech demo, moron.

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I mean PC cant have such graphics in its dreams, while PS4 can do it unoptimized at launch (which means will look 10x better later)

So, what is the purpose of a 1000$ GPU (2500$-3000$ PC) when you get the whole of PS4 for 399$ and will last 8-10 years and also have JRPGs that PC does not (and all major PC games like Witcher 3)

I cant understand how one can pay 10x more to get 10x less

loosingENDS

what makes you think the pc isn't capable of that? and what are these "all major games" you're referring to? and why do you think gaming pcs cost that much?

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#8 Sweenix
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Loosing, you excited for final fantasy xv and kingdom hearts? :)

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#9 The_Stand_In
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You could of at least put up a nicer tech demo screen. I mean, I've seen modded Skyrim picuters that look better than that. That picture has horible textures...

Go take a look at some CryEngine 3 tech demos then come back and think about what you said.

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#10 heretrix
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You could of at least put up a nicer tech demo screen. I mean, I've seen modded Skyrim picuters that look better than that. That picture has horible textures...

Go take a look at some CryEngine 3 tech demos then come back and think about what you said.

The_Stand_In

That's asking a lot.

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#11 ultraking
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You could of at least put up a nicer tech demo screen. I mean, I've seen modded Skyrim picuters that look better than that. That picture has horible textures...

Go take a look at some CryEngine 3 tech demos then come back and think about what you said.

The_Stand_In
nah dude. modded skyrim doesnt even come close to that. and i have like 50 or mors mods running at one time. but its still a tech demo so loosey shouldnt expect quantic dreams next game to look anything like that
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I mean PC cant have such graphics in its dreams, while PS4 can do it unoptimized at launch (which means will look 10x better later)

So, what is the purpose of a 1000$ GPU (2500$-3000$ PC) when you get the whole of PS4 for 399$ and will last 8-10 years and also have JRPGs that PC does not (and all major PC games like Witcher 3)

I cant understand how one can pay 10x more to get 10x less

loosingENDS

So you actually played this and saw it with your own eyes, in that PS4 you just bought?

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#13 campzor
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This is poor trolling.UCF_Knight
well, it IS a loosingEnds thread
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#14 James161324
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It looks nice but, lets point out the ovious. Since you console players don't understand tech demos.

This is not a game and mostlikely the ps4 has no hope in hell of every looking like that at a playable framrate. This is just stuff being rendered by a game engine. Look up cry engine 3 demos, heck check out the new unigine heaven demos.

 

 

Heck the witcher 2 looked better than this 

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#15 BrunoBRS
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great, loosey went from a rabid lem spouting nonsense about the PC, to a rabid cow spouting nonsense about the PC.
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#16 BlbecekBobecek
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Heck the witcher 2 looked better than this 

James161324

 

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#17 R4gn4r0k
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great, loosey went from a rabid lem spouting nonsense about the PC, to a rabid cow spouting nonsense about the PC.BrunoBRS

So much has changed over the years, it's hard to keep track.

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#18 SaltyMeatballs
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People underestimated the talent of AAA console developers. I'm guessing the extra power and RAM is like a godsend to them.

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#19 donalbane
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A titan has 2.5 times the teraflops of a PS4. /thread
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#20 TheFadeForever
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and what do you think was running that tech demo :roll:

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#21 wasted_wiisdom
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lol congratulations you just gave the Hermits a meeting ground to have their circle jerk and beat their chests...OOhh Titan this, titan that...newegg this, steam that...OOhhh 10,000$ PCs and Oooh 5$ Steam Sales....Ooohhh Yeahh...Oohhh...Ohhh he's butthurt
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#22 Krelian-co
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loosingend doesnt lose his touch, he first talked stupid bs about ps3 and ps4 and now about pc :lol:

yeah the ps4 which is a mid range pc can do what high end pcs cant for sure, logic at its best

high end pcs > consoles, ALWAYS.

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#23 nethernova
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Once again you get it completely right, Mr. ENDS. You're the smartest user around.
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#24 Krelian-co
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Once again you get it completely right, Mr. ENDS. You're the smartest user around.nethernova

loosingends 

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#25 faizan_faizan
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Well, it was running on PC hardware, so, I don't know what to make of this thread then.
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#26 loosingENDS
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This is poor trolling.UCF_Knight

I could just post the pic and would still be good

Since Sorcerer on PS4 looks multiple generations better than the best PC graphics

 

 

what makes you think the pc isn't capable of that? and what are these "all major games" you're referring to? and why do you think gaming pcs cost that much?

CaseyWegner

The fact that the maxed best PC graphics look like a total garbage comparing to that ?

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#27 R4gn4r0k
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[QUOTE="UCF_Knight"]This is poor trolling.loosingENDS

I could just post the pic and would still be good

Since Sorcerer on PS4 looks multiple generations better than the best PC graphics

How would you even know what the best PC graphics look like ? Your terrible PC can barely run The Witcher 2 at lowest settings :?

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#28 loosingENDS
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How would you even know what the best PC graphics look like ? Your terrible PC can barely run The Witcher 2 at lowest settings :?

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From all the people that buy 1000$ GPUs and post pics ?

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#29 tormentos
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It's a tech demo, moron.

heretrix

 

This.

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#30 loosingENDS
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Loosing, you excited for final fantasy xv and kingdom hearts? :)

Sweenix

After the last trailer, i am super excited for FF15

I was never a fan of KH though, so not really for that one

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#31 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

It's a tech demo, moron.

tormentos

This.

Quatic Dream actual games have always FAR surpassed the tech demos that were shown before their release

So ....

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#32 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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I vividly recall all the pc gamer fanboys saying that nothing on ps4 would be impressive and/or look better than current pc games.  What do they all think now?

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#33 R4gn4r0k
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From all the people that buy 1000$ GPUs and post pics ?

loosingENDS

Yeah I thought so. You make up your mind based on compressed pictures and youtube videos. In no way does that resemble how the best PC games look in motion.

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#34 NaveedLife
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Weren't you a lemming? Nice to see you chose for redemption by choosing PS4. Anyway, PC will always own consoles graphics wise.Suppaman100

lol this.

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#35 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

From all the people that buy 1000$ GPUs and post pics ?

R4gn4r0k

Yeah I thought so. You make up your mind based on compressed pictures and youtube videos. In no way does that resemble how the best PC games look in motion.

But you see, comapring pics to pics, Sorcerer looks still 10.000.000 times better than anything i have seen from the top maxed PC graphics

Plus, in motion it uses more effects than all current PC games combined really and the lighting is the best i have seen bar none, in motion it is like 10 trillion times better looking

Plus we do have a full in motion video of the tech demo, so we know exactly how it looks in motion too

Here is the thread

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=584376&page=6

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I vividly recall all the pc gamer fanboys saying that nothing on ps4 would be impressive and/or look better than current pc games.  What do they all think now?

Heirren

Its a fact.

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#37 loosingENDS
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I vividly recall all the pc gamer fanboys saying that nothing on ps4 would be impressive and/or look better than current pc games.  What do they all think now?

Heirren

Indeed, plus that next gen games would not be 1080p LOL

And now Sorcerer looks better than all PC games combined and then some, is in full 1080p and is completly unoptimized and underusing PS4 to the extreme

I can understand the damage control and frustation from the people that wasted 3000$ on a PC with a 1000$ GPU though

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#38 R4gn4r0k
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[QUOTE="Heirren"]

I vividly recall all the pc gamer fanboys saying that nothing on ps4 would be impressive and/or look better than current pc games.  What do they all think now?

loosingENDS

Indeed, plus that next gen games would not be 1080p LOL

Quote me one person who said that.

Can't be hard since you are saying all pc gamers claimed that ...

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I vividly recall all the pc gamer fanboys saying that nothing on ps4 would be impressive and/or look better than current pc games.  What do they all think now?

Heirren

There is no doubt that the PS4 will have some impressive games but better looking than some current PC games is debatable.  

Of course that screen he showed is a demo and in no way an indication of how great the actual end product will be.  Don't get me wrong, there will be some nice games, just not the bullshot quality that some are pushing.

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[QUOTE="Heirren"]

I vividly recall all the pc gamer fanboys saying that nothing on ps4 would be impressive and/or look better than current pc games.  What do they all think now?

loosingENDS

Indeed, plus that next gen games would not be 1080p LOL

And now Sorcerer looks better than all PC games combined and then some, is in full 1080p and is completly unoptimized and underusing PS4 to the extreme

I can understand the damage control and frustation from the people that wasted 3000$ on a PC with a 1000$ GPU though

That's cute that you think that demo is actually running on a PS4 like you will buy in the fall.  Keep on dreaming I guess if that's all you can do.  ;)

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#41 Heil68
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The demo looked a billion times better than anything on PC with its next gen lighting.
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[QUOTE="Heirren"]

I vividly recall all the pc gamer fanboys saying that nothing on ps4 would be impressive and/or look better than current pc games.  What do they all think now?

menes777

There is no doubt that the PS4 will have some impressive games but better looking than some current PC games is debatable.  

Of course that screen he showed is a demo and in no way an indication of how great the actual end product will be.  Don't get me wrong, there will be some nice games, just not the bullshot quality that some are pushing.

no, ps4 graphics will eventually match that. Every tech demo before has. BUT PC gaming has and always will prevail. I have seen some crysis shots that look better then this, also 

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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

I vividly recall all the pc gamer fanboys saying that nothing on ps4 would be impressive and/or look better than current pc games.  What do they all think now?

menes777

Indeed, plus that next gen games would not be 1080p LOL

And now Sorcerer looks better than all PC games combined and then some, is in full 1080p and is completly unoptimized and underusing PS4 to the extreme

I can understand the damage control and frustation from the people that wasted 3000$ on a PC with a 1000$ GPU though

That's cute that you think that demo is actually running on a PS4 like you will buy in the fall.  Keep on dreaming I guess if that's all you can do.  ;)

Do you have proof that it wasn't? Yes I understand tech demos and I understand that not all the demos are actually run on the systems they're shown for but at the same time judging by how Killzone 4 look and how Final Fantasy XV or whichever one was shown at e3 looks, it's safe to say and it's easy to see that that's something that CAN be done on the PS4. You have the right hardware you can do something realistic to a certain extent, so if you were to say that's not on PS4 you're actually only giving it a compliment.
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#44 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="Heirren"]

I vividly recall all the pc gamer fanboys saying that nothing on ps4 would be impressive and/or look better than current pc games.  What do they all think now?

menes777

There is no doubt that the PS4 will have some impressive games but better looking than some current PC games is debatable.  

Of course that screen he showed is a demo and in no way an indication of how great the actual end product will be.  Don't get me wrong, there will be some nice games, just not the bullshot quality that some are pushing.

2006 ("The Casting" Tech Demo on PS3)


2010 (Heavy Rain Game on PS3)


2011 ("Kara" Tech Demo on PS3)


2013 (Beyond Game on PS3)


2013 ("Old Man" Tech Demo on PS4)


2013 ("The Dark Sorcerer" Tech Demo on PS4; YouTube compressed footage)



2014/2015/2016 (???)

No bullshots. All direct feed (except for Sorcerer atm) and realtime.

 

Completly dissagree, Quatic Dream tech demos are ALWAYS surpassed by their actual games graphics later

Link

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=584376&page=6

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#45 heretrix
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[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

It's a tech demo, moron.

loosingENDS

This.

Quatic Dream actual games have always FAR surpassed the tech demos that were shown before their release

So ....

So, you're still an idiot. have you ever seen any of the Nvidia or ATI tech videos?

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#46 Link3301
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and what do you think was running that tech demo :roll:

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Nvidia face works 2013

 

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#48 Krelian-co
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[QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]

How would you even know what the best PC graphics look like ? Your terrible PC can barely run The Witcher 2 at lowest settings :?

loosingENDS

From all the people that buy 1000$ GPUs and post pics ?

why so obssessed about prices loosey, i know $1000 must seem like a million dollar for peasants, but in the real world working people can afford it. 

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#49 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

This.

heretrix

Quatic Dream actual games have always FAR surpassed the tech demos that were shown before their release

So ....

So, you're still an idiot. have you ever seen any of the Nvidia or ATI tech videos?

Well, the only idiot i see is the one that did not read my psot above where i actually post proof of everything i say

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#50 AmazonTreeBoa
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This is poor trolling.UCF_Knight
Dud come on. This is Loosingends we are talking about. He has ALWAYS sucked at trolling. Don't even understand why he tried he is so bad at it.