Does Sorcerer PS4 demo mean that PC hardware is useless ?

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="Mrmedia01"]

High end PC could do this and PS4. PS4 is the cheaper option so PS4 $400>>>>>>>PC $1200

ronvalencia

All you need is low-end gameing pc to play games with the same graphics like the ps4.

in my book these are low end specs.

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="pc-ps360"]

the is the only unimpressive demo ps4 had.  who r they kidding. they showed us that this is a movie and was not real time or anything. the ps3 can play that demo at 1080p, its a movie not a game engine.

pc-ps360

Actually was confirmed by the developers that

1. it was all running real time on PS4

2. the actual game will look much better

no it was not, they showed us the green screens and the cameras , the only thing part of the game was the green goblin and he does not look that great. eventhing in teh game was video and in actual game u cannot interact with anything

I see what you did there :)

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

All you need is low-end gameing pc to play games with the same graphics like the ps4.

MK-Professor

in my book these are low end specs.

Your book doesn't reflect the 2013 x86 PC market place.

[QUOTE="Sweenix"]

Loosing, you excited for final fantasy xv and kingdom hearts? :)

loosingENDS

After the last trailer, i am super excited for FF15

I was never a fan of KH though, so not really for that one

Well played Square,

The suckering begins again...

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="Sweenix"]

Loosing, you excited for final fantasy xv and kingdom hearts? :)

jer_1

After the last trailer, i am super excited for FF15

I was never a fan of KH though, so not really for that one

Well played Square,

The suckering begins again...

and he hated final fantasy 13.

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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

After the last trailer, i am super excited for FF15

I was never a fan of KH though, so not really for that one

CaseyWegner

Well played Square,

The suckering begins again...

and he hated final fantasy 13.

I do hate FF13

FF13vs did not look much until this very last video, that appears it is spectacular, with the huge bosses etc

Also in case you did not notice, it is now FF15, so has separated from the terrible FF13 series

From NeoGAF

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=63271331&postcount=319

So I ended Day2 watching the extended Demo of this in Sonys booth. The buzz was non existant, the line was small, and I was curious. Before getting things going the Quantic Dream dev went on and on how there are no tricks, this is running in engine in 3D realtime with no video overlays. I was still quite skeptical. They showed everything from the press conference and then the demo went on for another five minutes. Another actor shows up in a devil costume, many more goblins appear. I kept thinking to myself this just can be. The character in the devil outfit looks absolutely real.I admit I was #TeamCG so I have been burned before. And this is supposedly real time no less. When it was over. He started to describe how many polys there were per character. And how many shaders. Blah blah. But then he started to change the lighting with the controller. To move the camera around in full 3D. Zoom in and out to see amazing details like the characters eyes. He started turning shaders on and off. Then he went into wireframe mode to show off the models. He had them do different animations like pushups to show off the cloth simulations for the clothes and hair. Because we were the last show of the day he had plenty of time to go through it in detail.

I could not compute. It was real.This is the single most impressive realtime 3D graphics demo I have ever seen in my life. I have been to many E3's and even SIGGRAPH. Never has my jaw hit the floor so hard.I put my face right up to the huge hidef tv screen to look more closely at the end. Still looked real. There can be no debate here people. #TEAMCG is happening and in real time on PS4. And it is not Kojima that is delivering. It is Quantic dream. This really deserves alot more attention than it is getting. Especially after what happened with the TeamCG vs TeamReal debate. If you are at E3, you must goto the Sony booth and wait in line for the Quantic Dream demo to see it for yourself. I asked them to release the demo on PSN store when PS4 comes out. The last argument is that this is just a demo, and what can the game look like. They were very confident that the game will look like this or better. The Quantic Dream guy listed how they made this in 6 months using tools from the Beyond pipeline. And that it was not even using the full memory of PS4. He also pointed to their pedigree, and I have to admit, Beyond looks better than many next gen games at E3.

#TEAMCG has been vindicated! Discuss.

Guy, I'm gonna be realistic about this one.

Yeah, the TECH DEMO looks really good, but it is yet to be seen how will the game look.

If the game looks even remotely as good as this, then GREAT!

Guy, I'm gonna be realistic about this one.

Yeah, the TECH DEMO looks really good, but it is yet to be seen how will the game look.

If the game looks even remotely as good as this, then GREAT!

IgGy621985

It always does for these developers

And is what they also stated they expect to happen

Now we're taking random GAF posts as factual evidence. 10/10 loosey.

Now we're taking random GAF posts as factual evidence. 10/10 loosey.

Jebus213

Better have the opinion of someone that saw the demo first hands, than the wild speculation of PC fanboys that have never seen it and have no idea what they are talking about

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

Now we're taking random GAF posts as factual evidence. 10/10 loosey.

loosingENDS

Better have the opinion of someone that saw the demo first hands, than the wild speculation of PC fanboys that have never seen it and have no idea what they are talking about

Yuck PC gamingrazu2444

So many closed minded haters, look at what Quantic Dreams has done.

Tech demos to games

Please go look at the Tech Demos on the PS3 back at E3 2005, that were supposed to be games.

Games won't look that good no matter the hardware until next-next gen (in realtime)

http://www.youtube.com/embed/Q9cqeYSJo9w

You're confusing production value over power. If Quantic Dream wanted, they could make a game look this good on SLi Titans or whatever the hell AMD's got. (I don't follow all the PC video card garbage since the best one gets outdated in like a few weeks)

I cant understand how one can pay 10x more to get 10x less

loosingENDS

Now we're taking random GAF posts as factual evidence. 10/10 loosey.

Jebus213

What game is that in your sig ?

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

I cant understand how one can pay 10x more to get 10x less

C_Rule

The same old shite troll story, PC gamers are getting bored.

Am I the only one not impressed by that.I thought the ending of the tech demo was cool.

[QUOTE="UCF_Knight"]This is poor trolling.campzor

[QUOTE="IgGy621985"]

Guy, I'm gonna be realistic about this one.

Yeah, the TECH DEMO looks really good, but it is yet to be seen how will the game look.

If the game looks even remotely as good as this, then GREAT!

loosingENDS

It always does for these developers

And is what they also stated they expect to happen

Like what game ?

While PC hardware are not useless, they just don't have the talent, budget or focus to push them since they have to cater for the mass which counts for 98% of pc gamers. In any case The Dark Sorcerer shits on any known pc games thus far whiteout even trying.gpuking

It's also not a game...

Rhytm is a dancer! I like pizza on the moon of sorrow and lust.

That was a nice CGI trailer.

Actual game will not look like that.

Gaming PC's are useless, PS4 is coming

Gaming PC's are useless, PS4 is coming

Davekeeh

PS4 is useless, gaming PCs already exist.

Davekeeh

Fixed that for you.

Gaming PC's are useless, PS4 is coming

Davekeeh

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

PS4 is useless, gaming PCs already exist.

Cyberdot

Fixed that for you.

[QUOTE="Cyberdot"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

PS4 is useless, gaming PCs already exist.

Davekeeh

Fixed that for you.

Oh really damn, Haze FTW!

[QUOTE="Cyberdot"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

PS4 is useless, gaming PCs already exist.

Davekeeh

Fixed that for you.

[QUOTE="Cyberdot"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

PS4 is useless, gaming PCs already exist.

Davekeeh

Fixed that for you.

You find best games in the library of multiplats, not exclusives.

Multiplats > exclusives, and the PC is the best for that. Gotta love cow's logic that an exclusive is automatically the best.

I mean PC cant have such graphics in its dreams, while PS4 can do it unoptimized at launch (which means will look 10x better later)

So, what is the purpose of a 1000$ GPU (2500$-3000$ PC) when you get the whole of PS4 for 399$ and will last 8-10 years and also have JRPGs that PC does not (and all major PC games like Witcher 3)

I cant understand how one can pay 10x more to get 10x less

loosingENDS

Are you the same loosingEnds who used to proclaim Kinect to be the savior of gaming,the do all those stupid lists of xbox games with things like Mass effect 3(real version with kinect).:lol:

Thought you would be amazed at the next xbox.:)

[QUOTE="Cyberdot"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

PS4 is useless, gaming PCs already exist.

Davekeeh

Fixed that for you.

Three things:

- pc hardware is used to play pc games, as long as there are worthwhile pc games that aren't on consoles (and there are dozens each year) pc hardware won't be useless.

-and second...as tech demos for both Heavy Rain and Beyond; Two souls have shown us, the actual games Quantic Dreams makes never measure up to the leve of detail their tech demos show and I doubt Dark Sorcerer will be exception to that rule.

-Quantic Dream wouldn't be able to desing good adventure game even if the team's lives depended on it.

And that's it. OP has been destroyed. I rest my case.

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="Cyberdot"]

Fixed that for you.

CroidX

You're confusing production value over power. If Quantic Dream wanted, they could make a game look this good on SLi Titans or whatever the hell AMD's got. (I don't follow all the PC video card garbage since the best one gets outdated in like a few weeks)

wakefulness

Model numbers are just for marketing.

Examples

1. 7950 was re-flashed into 7950 BE i.e. free firmware upgrade.

2. 7950 BE was renamed into 8950-OEM i.e. OEMs demanded new models and AMD gave them the renamed 7950 BE.

3. My 7950 would be almost two years old by DEC 2013.

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NVIDIA 770 GTX is fundamentally a renamed 680 GTX.

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

Actually loosingENDS is from Greece, where there is a massive economic recession and lots of unemployment.

[QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Indeed, plus that next gen games would not be 1080p LOL

R4gn4r0k

Quote me one person who said that.

Can't be hard since you are saying all pc gamers claimed that ...

No response ? Thought so. Stop making things up !

well that must suck for him, but then he should take it like a man instead of hating pcs instead. Hating something just because you cant have it is quite is quite childish and sad.

well that must suck for him, but then he should take it like a man instead of hating pcs instead. Hating something just because you cant have it is quite is quite childish and sad.

Krelian-co

It's not like he has been able to back up anything he has claimed on these forums. Like his constant 10.000 dollar PC claims, nobody has ever spent that much on a PC for gaming. Perhaps in the 70s or 80s PCs costed that much.

[QUOTE="CroidX"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
No because with the PS4 you know you will get all the best games with great graphics, PC exists for decades yet doesn't have one single exclusive that outscores a PS3 exclusive, which is pathetic.Heirren

No but this thread is.

Yeah, it is now go to sleep loosey. Oh wait you can't you have $500 to pay for X1 and another $400 for PS4 and then the online fee plus the extra $10 on every game which basically plays by themselves. I can understand why you are loosing sleep over this. Oh and in 10 years you probably have to pay for the same outdated hardware (22 months by the time it launches) at least three times because of the RROD and YLOD. Poor Loosey.

The "successful troll" is back I see. ;)