Does Sorcerer PS4 demo mean that PC hardware is useless ?

Yeah, it is now go to sleep loosey. Oh wait you can't you have $500 to pay for X1 and another $400 for PS4 and then the online fee plus the extra $10 on every game which basically plays by themselves. I can understand why you are loosing sleep over this. Oh and in 10 years you probably have to pay for the same outdated hardware (22 months by the time it launches) at least three times because of the RROD and YLOD. Poor Loosey.

zeeshanhaider

So, garbage last gen bloom on PC, real and next gen lighting with real light source and shadows on xbox 360

I would not even throw PC version on my garbage bin in case it got contaminated after looking at the pics above, sorry

[QUOTE="zeeshanhaider"]

Yeah, it is now go to sleep loosey. Oh wait you can't you have $500 to pay for X1 and another $400 for PS4 and then the online fee plus the extra $10 on every game which basically plays by themselves. I can understand why you are loosing sleep over this. Oh and in 10 years you probably have to pay for the same outdated hardware (22 months by the time it launches) at least three times because of the RROD and YLOD. Poor Loosey.

loosingENDS

So, garbage last gen bloom on PC, real and next gen lighting with real light source and shadows on xbox 360

I would not even throw PC version on my garbage bin in case it got contaminated after looking at the pics above, sorry

why not use the other pictures where you can see shadows missing from the Xbox 360 version and the tree is 2D

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="zeeshanhaider"]

Yeah, it is now go to sleep loosey. Oh wait you can't you have $500 to pay for X1 and another $400 for PS4 and then the online fee plus the extra $10 on every game which basically plays by themselves. I can understand why you are loosing sleep over this. Oh and in 10 years you probably have to pay for the same outdated hardware (22 months by the time it launches) at least three times because of the RROD and YLOD. Poor Loosey.

lostrib

So, garbage last gen bloom on PC, real and next gen lighting with real light source and shadows on xbox 360

I would not even throw PC version on my garbage bin in case it got contaminated after looking at the pics above, sorry

why not use the other pictures where you can see shadows missing from the Xbox 360 version and the tree is 2D

Why use other pics, when those pics show PC with last gen lighting ?

You mean that other pics will magically change the crappy lighting in the PC pics above ?

The fact is that in the above pics, PC is like generations behind xbox 360 version in lighting

The bloom and absense of real light source and shadows on PC is laughable to say the least

That makes no sense.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

So, garbage last gen bloom on PC, real and next gen lighting with real light source and shadows on xbox 360

I would not even throw PC version on my garbage bin in case it got contaminated after looking at the pics above, sorry

loosingENDS

why not use the other pictures where you can see shadows missing from the Xbox 360 version and the tree is 2D

Why use other pics, when those pics show PC with last gen lighting ?

You mean that other pics will magically change the crappy lighting in the PC pics above ?

The fact is that in the above pics, PC is like generations behind xbox 360 version in lighting

The bloom and absense of real light source and shadows on PC is laughable to say the least

because it proves the lighting in 360 is not "next gen" and the terrible graphical shortcuts they had to take in the console version.

Don't fall for the propaganda TC. I remember Drive Club looked great when they first showed it, now it looks more like a PS2 game :?

Does LE realize that TW2 looked  worse  on the 360?

Does LE realize that TW2 looked  worse  on the 360?

lundy86_4

no, lighting fixes everything, bro!

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

So, garbage last gen bloom on PC, real and next gen lighting with real light source and shadows on xbox 360

I would not even throw PC version on my garbage bin in case it got contaminated after looking at the pics above, sorry

loosingENDS

why not use the other pictures where you can see shadows missing from the Xbox 360 version and the tree is 2D

Why use other pics, when those pics show PC with last gen lighting ?

You mean that other pics will magically change the crappy lighting in the PC pics above ?

The fact is that in the above pics, PC is like generations behind xbox 360 version in lighting

The bloom and absense of real light source and shadows on PC is laughable to say the least

and yet you still seem to be the only person saying that the 360 version looks better.

People you wish would just shut up.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Does LE realize that TW2 looked  worse  on the 360?

lostrib

no, lighting fixes everything, bro!

Shit! News to me!

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

why not use the other pictures where you can see shadows missing from the Xbox 360 version and the tree is 2D

CaseyWegner

Why use other pics, when those pics show PC with last gen lighting ?

You mean that other pics will magically change the crappy lighting in the PC pics above ?

The fact is that in the above pics, PC is like generations behind xbox 360 version in lighting

The bloom and absense of real light source and shadows on PC is laughable to say the least

and yet you still seem to be the only person saying that the 360 version looks better.

he used to use the other pics with the dragon on the bridge, until it was pointed out that the tree was a 2D sprite an the ramparts were missing shadows

Does LE realize that TW2 looked  worse  on the 360?

lundy86_4

By the pics i posted, PC version looks like utter last gen garbage comparing to xbox 360 one

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Does LE realize that TW2 looked  worse  on the 360?

loosingENDS

By the pics i posted, PC version looks like utter last gen garbage comparing to xbox 360 one

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Does LE realize that TW2 looked  worse  on the 360?

loosingENDS

By the pics i posted, PC version looks like utter last gen garbage comparing to xbox 360 one

Stop talking. You've been proven wrong  multiple times.

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Does LE realize that TW2 looked  worse  on the 360?

lundy86_4

By the pics i posted, PC version looks like utter last gen garbage comparing to xbox 360 one

Stop talking. You've been proven wrong  multiple times.

How so ? I was never ever proven wrong, i just posted the pics that show i am 100% right

PC lighting in the pics i posted looks like garbage and last gen comparing to 360 one and that is the only fact here

Of course some people may post dillusional comments that somehow i am wrong, but pics speak for themselves really

How so ? I was never ever proven wrong, i just posted the pics that show i am 100% right

PC lighting in the pics i posted looks like garbage and last gen comparing to 360 one and that is the only fact here

Of course some people may post dillusional comments that somehow i am wrong, but pics speak for themselves really

loosingENDS

Actually, users have consistently posted pictures in reply to yours. You shown the same few,  over and over, because no others show your points. STFU, LE, you have consistently been an idiot on this board.

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

How so ? I was never ever proven wrong, i just posted the pics that show i am 100% right

PC lighting in the pics i posted looks like garbage and last gen comparing to 360 one and that is the only fact here

Of course some people may post dillusional comments that somehow i am wrong, but pics speak for themselves really

lundy86_4

Actually, users have consistently posted pictures in reply to yours. You shown the same few,  over and over, because no others show your points. STFU, LE, you have consistently been an idiot on this board.

PC lighting in Witcher 2

LOL

Here is the deal, i posted pics and i expect comments on them, not other picsd

The very fact that people try to counter my pics with other ones, means that 360 DESTROYS PC graphics in them

So you get the picture, by posting other pics, you essentially admit 100% that my argument about my pics is 100% correct and undeniable, since noone does comment on them

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

So, garbage last gen bloom on PC, real and next gen lighting with real light source and shadows on xbox 360

I would not even throw PC version on my garbage bin in case it got contaminated after looking at the pics above, sorry

loosingENDS

why not use the other pictures where you can see shadows missing from the Xbox 360 version and the tree is 2D

Why use other pics, when those pics show PC with last gen lighting ?

You mean that other pics will magically change the crappy lighting in the PC pics above ?

The fact is that in the above pics, PC is like generations behind xbox 360 version in lighting

The bloom and absense of real light source and shadows on PC is laughable to say the least

PC lighting in Witcher 2

LOL

Here is the deal, i posted pics and i expect comments on them, not other picsd

The very fact that people try to counter my pics with other ones, means that 360 DESTROYS PC graphics in them

So you get the picture, by posting other pics, you essentially admit 100% that my argument about my pics is 100% correct and undeniable, since noone does comment on them

loosingENDS

You try to prove me wrong, by posting the same shots? :lol:

How about this:

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Oh shit! STFU!

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

How so ? I was never ever proven wrong, i just posted the pics that show i am 100% right

PC lighting in the pics i posted looks like garbage and last gen comparing to 360 one and that is the only fact here

Of course some people may post dillusional comments that somehow i am wrong, but pics speak for themselves really

loosingENDS

Actually, users have consistently posted pictures in reply to yours. You shown the same few,  over and over, because no others show your points. STFU, LE, you have consistently been an idiot on this board.

PC lighting in Witcher 2

LOL

Here is the deal, i posted pics and i expect comments on them, not other picsd

The very fact that people try to counter my pics with other ones, means that 360 DESTROYS PC graphics in them

So you get the picture, by posting other pics, you essentially admit 100% that my argument about my pics is 100% correct and undeniable, since noone does comment on them

and yet all the review sources say the pc version still looks better. you're all by yourself on this one.

TW3 pc powar

Why are you hitting yourself, loosing?lightleggy

i'm playing the TW2 right now and it's one of the nicest looking games I have on my PC (yes playing on max settings). That dude is just trolling. Honestly it could pass as a next gen game had they shown it at E3.

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

PC lighting in Witcher 2

LOL

Here is the deal, i posted pics and i expect comments on them, not other picsd

The very fact that people try to counter my pics with other ones, means that 360 DESTROYS PC graphics in them

So you get the picture, by posting other pics, you essentially admit 100% that my argument about my pics is 100% correct and undeniable, since noone does comment on them

lundy86_4

You try to prove me wrong, by posting the same shots? :lol:

How about this:

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----

Oh shit! STFU!

And those pics are not even showing the different lightning.

The PC version got the same lightning as the 360 in a free patch about 1 week after the release of the 360 version.

After LE found out about this, he literally stopped bringing TW2 to any discussion, if he was active in a thread, and you'd make mention of it, he would immediatly abandon the thread and never return, I have no idea why did he forgot about it and is now back on track on bragging about something that the PC already has.

And those pics are not even showing the different lightning.

The PC version got the same lightning as the 360 in a free patch about 1 week after the release of the 360 version.

After LE found out about this, he literally stopped bringing TW2 to any discussion, if he was active in a thread, and you'd make mention of it, he would immediatly abandon the thread and never return, I have no idea why did he forgot about it and is now back on track on bragging about something that the PC already has.

lightleggy

Post 'em. This is better lighting, as is.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

PC lighting in Witcher 2

LOL

Here is the deal, i posted pics and i expect comments on them, not other picsd

The very fact that people try to counter my pics with other ones, means that 360 DESTROYS PC graphics in them

So you get the picture, by posting other pics, you essentially admit 100% that my argument about my pics is 100% correct and undeniable, since noone does comment on them

lightleggy

You try to prove me wrong, by posting the same shots? :lol:

How about this:

----

----

Oh shit! STFU!

And those pics are not even showing the different lightning.

The PC version got the same lightning as the 360 in a free patch about 1 week after the release of the 360 version.

After LE found out about this, he literally stopped bringing TW2 to any discussion, if he was active in a thread, and you'd make mention of it, he would immediatly abandon the thread and never return, I have no idea why did he forgot about it and is now back on track on bragging about something that the PC already has.

well just using those you can see the 360 is worse. Looka at the last two. The 360 version the tree looks 2D and the ramparts are missing shadows

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]

And those pics are not even showing the different lightning.

The PC version got the same lightning as the 360 in a free patch about 1 week after the release of the 360 version.

After LE found out about this, he literally stopped bringing TW2 to any discussion, if he was active in a thread, and you'd make mention of it, he would immediatly abandon the thread and never return, I have no idea why did he forgot about it and is now back on track on bragging about something that the PC already has.

lundy86_4

Post 'em. This is better lighting, as is.

And those pics are not even showing the different lightning.

The PC version got the same lightning as the 360 in a free patch about 1 week after the release of the 360 version.

After LE found out about this, he literally stopped bringing TW2 to any discussion, if he was active in a thread, and you'd make mention of it, he would immediatly abandon the thread and never return, I have no idea why did he forgot about it and is now back on track on bragging about something that the PC already has.

lightleggy

I got these ones in the meantime, not mine though.

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]

And those pics are not even showing the different lightning.

The PC version got the same lightning as the 360 in a free patch about 1 week after the release of the 360 version.

After LE found out about this, he literally stopped bringing TW2 to any discussion, if he was active in a thread, and you'd make mention of it, he would immediatly abandon the thread and never return, I have no idea why did he forgot about it and is now back on track on bragging about something that the PC already has.

ferret-gamer

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]

And those pics are not even showing the different lightning.

The PC version got the same lightning as the 360 in a free patch about 1 week after the release of the 360 version.

After LE found out about this, he literally stopped bringing TW2 to any discussion, if he was active in a thread, and you'd make mention of it, he would immediatly abandon the thread and never return, I have no idea why did he forgot about it and is now back on track on bragging about something that the PC already has.

lightleggy

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]No it didn't actually, the PC version got some lighting changes, especially in the third act, but not the same as the 360 version. Loosey is right that the 360 version has hdr improvements over the PC version, but that is it. The console version is still significantly downgraded compared to the pc version in nearly every way.

ferret-gamer

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] The PC version received the new lightning with a free patch, it's exactly the same as the one used in the 360, I have beaten the game several times and you can notice the improvements down from the start...with the vanilla lightning in PC, characters faces "glow" even in the dark, you can see diffuminated color around the edges. With the improved lightning this problem was corrected and now characters are properly illuminated instead of looking like a diffuminated color chalk.lightleggy

Look here, just taken from the game. Fully updated, max settings.

That brightness you see is not from the lighting but is from the bloom.

You can just get rid of it if you do not like it.

Some pictures I took of The Witcher 2 a few months back.

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]

And those pics are not even showing the different lightning.

The PC version got the same lightning as the 360 in a free patch about 1 week after the release of the 360 version.

After LE found out about this, he literally stopped bringing TW2 to any discussion, if he was active in a thread, and you'd make mention of it, he would immediatly abandon the thread and never return, I have no idea why did he forgot about it and is now back on track on bragging about something that the PC already has.

ferret-gamer

In the pics i posted the difference is a generic light source with bloom without shadows on PC and a real next gen lighting source with shadows and proper HDR on 360

It is not "just HDR difference" at all

Unless you can show me the light on the wood in the back on PC and the shadows from that light on the charatcers, like on 360 pics

POINTS on 360:

Light falling in the wooden wall in the back

Characters have shadows and light on them, not just a bloom

 

I mean PC cant have such graphics in its dreams, while PS4 can do it unoptimized at launch (which means will look 10x better later)

So, what is the purpose of a 1000$ GPU (2500$-3000$ PC) when you get the whole of PS4 for 399$ and will last 8-10 years and also have JRPGs that PC does not (and all major PC games like Witcher 3)

I cant understand how one can pay 10x more to get 10x less

loosingENDS

Heck the witcher 2 looked better than thisJames161324

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

How so ? I was never ever proven wrong, i just posted the pics that show i am 100% right

PC lighting in the pics i posted looks like garbage and last gen comparing to 360 one and that is the only fact here

Of course some people may post dillusional comments that somehow i am wrong, but pics speak for themselves really

loosingENDS

Actually, users have consistently posted pictures in reply to yours. You shown the same few,  over and over, because no others show your points. STFU, LE, you have consistently been an idiot on this board.

PC lighting in Witcher 2

LOL

Here is the deal, i posted pics and i expect comments on them, not other picsd

The very fact that people try to counter my pics with other ones, means that 360 DESTROYS PC graphics in them

So you get the picture, by posting other pics, you essentially admit 100% that my argument about my pics is 100% correct and undeniable, since noone does comment on them

What kind of disease is the 360 suffering from that everyone is blue? You call that good lighting? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Actually, users have consistently posted pictures in reply to yours. You shown the same few,  over and over, because no others show your points. STFU, LE, you have consistently been an idiot on this board.

nunovlopes

PC lighting in Witcher 2

LOL

Here is the deal, i posted pics and i expect comments on them, not other picsd

The very fact that people try to counter my pics with other ones, means that 360 DESTROYS PC graphics in them

So you get the picture, by posting other pics, you essentially admit 100% that my argument about my pics is 100% correct and undeniable, since noone does comment on them

What kind of disease is the 360 suffering from that everyone is blue? You call that good lighting? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

I like the new color scheme in this stage like 10 billion times more than the crappy yellow bloom on PC

But i never debated art and opinion, i just post about the technical side, that is clearly far ahead on 360 with real light and actual shadows and HDR, than just a bloom

[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

PC lighting in Witcher 2

LOL

Here is the deal, i posted pics and i expect comments on them, not other picsd

The very fact that people try to counter my pics with other ones, means that 360 DESTROYS PC graphics in them

So you get the picture, by posting other pics, you essentially admit 100% that my argument about my pics is 100% correct and undeniable, since noone does comment on them

loosingENDS

What kind of disease is the 360 suffering from that everyone is blue? You call that good lighting? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

I like the new color scheme in this stage like 10 billion times more than the crappy yellow bloom on PC

But i never debated art and opinion, i just post about the technical side, that is clearly far ahead on 360 with real light and actual shadows and HDR, than just a bloom

and all the review sources say that the pc version still looks better.

[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

PC lighting in Witcher 2

LOL

Here is the deal, i posted pics and i expect comments on them, not other picsd

The very fact that people try to counter my pics with other ones, means that 360 DESTROYS PC graphics in them

So you get the picture, by posting other pics, you essentially admit 100% that my argument about my pics is 100% correct and undeniable, since noone does comment on them

loosingENDS

What kind of disease is the 360 suffering from that everyone is blue? You call that good lighting? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

I like the new color scheme in this stage like 10 billion times more than the crappy yellow bloom on PC

But i never debated art and opinion, i just post about the technical side, that is clearly far ahead on 360 with real light and actual shadows and HDR, than just a bloom

YUCK PC GAMINGrazu2444

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

What kind of disease is the 360 suffering from that everyone is blue? You call that good lighting? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

nunovlopes

I like the new color scheme in this stage like 10 billion times more than the crappy yellow bloom on PC

But i never debated art and opinion, i just post about the technical side, that is clearly far ahead on 360 with real light and actual shadows and HDR, than just a bloom

Also notice how the 360 version couldn't even handle rendering Foltests's clothing correctly as a portion of it is white compared to the PC version which actually has the correct color.

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]

And those pics are not even showing the different lightning.

The PC version got the same lightning as the 360 in a free patch about 1 week after the release of the 360 version.

After LE found out about this, he literally stopped bringing TW2 to any discussion, if he was active in a thread, and you'd make mention of it, he would immediatly abandon the thread and never return, I have no idea why did he forgot about it and is now back on track on bragging about something that the PC already has.

ferret-gamer

Right.  But it's only a few area's of lighting, the 360 version still has some big deficiencies in lighting overall.  

I've played the 360 version extensively, and it's not great looking.  It looks good enough considering everything, but the level of texture filtering is disgusting, there's way too much pop up and slow LOD streaming (texture's don't load fast enough), the FXAA is the least they could have done, it's missing a nice chunk of vertical resolution and there's plenty of screen tear.