does the PC even have a weakness?

It can take hours to get certain games on certain OS's to boot up. Weakness #1Cbok

Only if you are a idiot. I've never had any trouble installing a PC game. You should note that its your #1 problem with gaming on PC. I would say the #1 weakness is the end user needs a bit of intelligence to work with one.

It can take hours to get certain games on certain OS's to boot up. Weakness #1Cbok

What? A patch takes a few minutes to download and install!

The only real poblem is the cost of buying a decent pc!

expensive.thrones

Here, Crytek gives the specs of a computer that costs about 875 dollars, but without kb+m and display. Still, it won't pass 1k dollars.

Also, it's been quite a while since this was posted, so now it's cheaper.

This powerfull computer can last 4-5 years easily.

Also, you can do a lot of stuff with it, like browsing, editing text, video, presentations, photoshopping etc, so it's cheaper than console for games + PC for job.

You can upgrade it if you want, so you don't have to change it when it's outdated - so it's cheaper than consoles.

Also, games are cheaper.

Not a lot of fighting games like Soul Calibur and SFwhocares4peace

Cool, I guess I have a reason to keep my 360 now.

Not a lot of fighting games like Soul Calibur and SFwhocares4peace

Also thats a valid point.

Another thing would be the controller support, if you like playing action games such as tomb raider you will maybe want to buy an extra controller which takes some time to install and program in some cases.

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[QUOTE="Cbok"]It can take hours to get certain games on certain OS's to boot up. Weakness #1Cbok

Only if you are a idiot. I've never had any trouble installing a PC game. You should note that its your #1 problem with gaming on PC. I would say the #1 weakness is the end user needs a bit of intelligence to work with one.

No need to show the world you are an arrogant *#%^ Its a well know fact that anyone can run into trouble with cd keys as well as many other things. You must not play many games child. Now go to bed.

What he said...

you can run into many probs with a PC...thats NOTHING new.

[QUOTE="Cbok"]It can take hours to get certain games on certain OS's to boot up. Weakness #1Ramadear

Only if you are a idiot. I've never had any trouble installing a PC game. You should note that its your #1 problem with gaming on PC. I would say the #1 weakness is the end user needs a bit of intelligence to work with one.

I like this argument. Anyone who disagrees with it becomes an idiot.

JRPGs, Fighters, Platformers, everything else is fine.

Price ... I wouldnt call it a weakness, as long as you know what your buying its nothing but a strenght, as it does alot more than the consoles... and gaming PC's break down alot less than budget desktops.... while performing every task alot better.

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[QUOTE="Cbok"]It can take hours to get certain games on certain OS's to boot up. Weakness #1chutup

Only if you are a idiot. I've never had any trouble installing a PC game. You should note that its your #1 problem with gaming on PC. I would say the #1 weakness is the end user needs a bit of intelligence to work with one.

I like this argument. Anyone who disagrees with it becomes an idiot.

pretty much, they all have a solution that can very easily be looked up on google!

Windows is also a big weakness I think. uRan_Ehr

Why?

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[QUOTE="Cbok"]It can take hours to get certain games on certain OS's to boot up. Weakness #1daytona_178

Only if you are a idiot. I've never had any trouble installing a PC game. You should note that its your #1 problem with gaming on PC. I would say the #1 weakness is the end user needs a bit of intelligence to work with one.

I like this argument. Anyone who disagrees with it becomes an idiot.

pretty much, they all have a solution that can very easily be looked up on google!

You must not play PC games much if you've been able to solve all your problems with google.

Fighting and Action games are under represented, and the controls aren't that great. dlindenb2000

Well that depends on what games your playing, for FPS's, RPG's and RTS's a keyboard and mouse is unbeatable!

If you play fighting, driving or adventure games most people would choose a controller.

I am considering investing into a PC and Im struggling to find anything wrong with the system. Not flaming but aside from the lack of JRPGs and platformers I was wondering if the PC has any other flaws, I can find enough on the current gen consoles anyway...flowdee79

Only weakness I can think of is that you don't really get splitscreen games. The other weakness that others may have is lack of having a controller, but you said you own an Xbox 360 and you can just plug your Xbox 360 controller into your PC and it recognises it as a gamepad. As a PC gamer you also have tonnes of advantages over consoles.

Fighting and Action games are under represented, and the controls aren't that great. dlindenb2000

Thats defintly not true, KB/Mouse is amazing for alot of genres, even then your arguement is weak becaus the PC can use every single constrol scheme on the market.

[QUOTE="daytona_178"][QUOTE="chutup"][QUOTE="Ramadear"]

[QUOTE="Cbok"]It can take hours to get certain games on certain OS's to boot up. Weakness #1chutup

Only if you are a idiot. I've never had any trouble installing a PC game. You should note that its your #1 problem with gaming on PC. I would say the #1 weakness is the end user needs a bit of intelligence to work with one.

I like this argument. Anyone who disagrees with it becomes an idiot.

pretty much, they all have a solution that can very easily be looked up on google!

You must not play PC games much if you've been able to solve all your problems with google.

Tell me a problem that could happen that google couldnt answer!

I have been gaming on PC's for years and i have had my fair share of problems but all i do is google it and it has always directed me to a web forum where that perticular problem has been sorted out before.

[QUOTE="dlindenb2000"]Fighting and Action games are under represented, and the controls aren't that great. Meu2k7

Thats defintly not true, KB/Mouse is amazing for alot of genres, even then your arguement is weak becaus the PC can use every single constrol scheme on the market.

You must admit though that buying a controller then having to assign a key to ever button is a pain in the ****. I know that most modern games on pc come ready programmed for controller but older games can be a pain.

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[QUOTE="dlindenb2000"]Fighting and Action games are under represented, and the controls aren't that great. daytona_178

Thats defintly not true, KB/Mouse is amazing for alot of genres, even then your arguement is weak becaus the PC can use every single constrol scheme on the market.

You must admit though that buying a controller then having to assign a key to ever button is a pain in the ****. I know that most modern games on pc come ready programmed for controller but older games can be a pain.

True, though the only time I use controllers is for Emulation.

I havnt had to use a controller for retail PC games as of yet really ... except Mugen which is freeware fighting.

Even Driving games i find fine witha keyboard ..., GTA games are actually better with Mouse/KB imo

[QUOTE="uRan_Ehr"]Windows is also a big weakness I think. daytona_178

Why?

Kind of expensive,no fighters or platformers,and the sports games tend to suck on PC.

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[QUOTE="uRan_Ehr"]Windows is also a big weakness I think. uRan_Ehr

Why?

So then Windows is better....

[QUOTE="chutup"][QUOTE="daytona_178"][QUOTE="chutup"][QUOTE="Ramadear"]

Only if you are a idiot. I've never had any trouble installing a PC game. You should note that its your #1 problem with gaming on PC. I would say the #1 weakness is the end user needs a bit of intelligence to work with one.

daytona_178

I like this argument. Anyone who disagrees with it becomes an idiot.

pretty much, they all have a solution that can very easily be looked up on google!

You must not play PC games much if you've been able to solve all your problems with google.

Tell me a problem that could happen that google couldnt answer!

I have been gaming on PC's for years and i have had my fair share of problems but all i do is google it and it has always directed me to a web forum where that perticular problem has been sorted out before.

I don't think I can name a single PC game that I've had that I couldn't get to run on my PC and I've been PC gaming for about 17 years. Any games that I have had trouble gaming with, google has pretty much found me all solutions so far.

Windows is also a big weakness I think. uRan_Ehr

how do you figure

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[QUOTE="uRan_Ehr"]Windows is also a big weakness I think. uRan_Ehr

Why?

It doesn't really favor people who like modern installements of these genres.

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[QUOTE="uRan_Ehr"]Windows is also a big weakness I think. uRan_Ehr

Why?

True Linux uses less system resources but if you have a half decent pc it would run windows xp with no problem what so ever. Also if the TC is thinking of buying or building one soon it would probably be so powerfull the OS wouldnt make much impact on overall performance due to RAM, CPU's and graphics cards being such good value now for the money you pay!

One thing: Price.

All the cheap rigs people been passing around nowadays are not GAMING PC's. For the full expierience, you're looking around $1300-4000

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[QUOTE="uRan_Ehr"]Windows is also a big weakness I think. killab2oo5

Why?

you know you can turn off that thing that asks you when you try to do anything, it takes literally 1 mintue!

[QUOTE="uRan_Ehr"]Windows is also a big weakness I think. flowdee79

how do you figure

It is badly designed and their model for operating systems is inherantly flawed, but it gets them more cash so they stick with it, ie. Release an operating system in its infancy knowing full well it is not ready, then updating it with fixes and tacking on software periodically. Linux and Mac OSes are designed from the ground up and are much more efficient, stable and robust. Hell, the only reason, Windows is so popular is because it has the largest range of compatible software, mostly in game terms. Luckily, with the advent of console gaming as a mass market, gaming focus is shifting away from PCs and so a lot of developers are seeing the bonus of developing applications for multiple operating systems.

One thing: Price.

All the cheap rigs people been passing around nowadays are not GAMING PC's. For the full expierience, you're looking around $1300-4000

Dynafrom

I agree that the downside is price but $1300 is plent to run ALL games currently out on max with AA on max (not including Crysis or if you play at crazy high resolutions)

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[QUOTE="uRan_Ehr"]Windows is also a big weakness I think. uRan_Ehr

Why?

Uhm, stfu if you don't know anything about linux/unix. You are just playing on the stereotype that windows sucks. Linux/unix should only be used for programmers working at low-level code since the OS is open-source.

One thing: Price.

All the cheap rigs people been passing around nowadays are not GAMING PC's. For the full expierience, you're looking around $1300-4000

Dynafrom

No, that's just rumour and conjecture. You can get a very reasonable price on a gaming PC lower than $1000, you just have to be willing to shop around and learn.

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[QUOTE="dlindenb2000"]Fighting and Action games are under represented, and the controls aren't that great. Meu2k7

Thats defintly not true, KB/Mouse is amazing for alot of genres, even then your arguement is weak becaus the PC can use every single constrol scheme on the market.

You must admit though that buying a controller then having to assign a key to ever button is a pain in the ****. I know that most modern games on pc come ready programmed for controller but older games can be a pain.

True, though the only time I use controllers is for Emulation.

I havnt had to use a controller for retail PC games as of yet really ... except Mugen which is freeware fighting.

Even Driving games i find fine witha keyboard ..., GTA games are actually better with Mouse/KB imo

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[QUOTE="uRan_Ehr"]Windows is also a big weakness I think. donwoogie

how do you figure

It is badly designed and their model for operating systems is inherantly flawed, but it gets them more cash so they stick with it, ie. Release an operating system in its infancy knowing full well it is not ready, then updating it with fixes and tacking on software periodically. Linux and Mac OSes are designed from the ground up and are much more efficient, stable and robust. Hell, the only reason, Windows is so popular is because it has the largest range of compatible software, mostly in game terms. Luckily, with the advent of console gaming as a mass market, gaming focus is shifting away from PCs and so a lot of developers are seeing the bonus of developing applications for multiple operating systems.

Whats problems do you have with windows then?

If you take vista for example seing as it was released recently most of the problems it had was with driver support, but you cant blame microsoft for that!

[QUOTE="Dynafrom"]

One thing: Price.

All the cheap rigs people been passing around nowadays are not GAMING PC's. For the full expierience, you're looking around $1300-4000

donwoogie

No, that's just rumour and conjecture. You can get a very reasonable price on a gaming PC lower than $1000, you just have to be willing to shop around and learn.

Uhm, I PC game. My rig probably destroys yours and I shopped around for bargains. Lower then $1000 = sub-par PC gaming expierience. Think about it, if you're playing on a 19" and picking up a 8800GT/Q6600, the visuals won't be as good as a $1400 pc with a 8800GTX/Q6600 or Q9300 on a 24".

Cheap rigs = NO NO.

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[QUOTE="uRan_Ehr"]Windows is also a big weakness I think. donwoogie

how do you figure

It is badly designed and their model for operating systems is inherantly flawed, but it gets them more cash so they stick with it, ie. Release an operating system in its infancy knowing full well it is not ready, then updating it with fixes and tacking on software periodically. Linux and Mac OSes are designed from the ground up and are much more efficient, stable and robust. Hell, the only reason, Windows is so popular is because it has the largest range of compatible software, mostly in game terms. Luckily, with the advent of console gaming as a mass market, gaming focus is shifting away from PCs and so a lot of developers are seeing the bonus of developing applications for multiple operating systems.

Oh jeez, why you have to say MAC. It's one of the worst OSes. Closed-system, no diagnostic for any errors, and worst part; proprietory hardware.

[QUOTE="donwoogie"][QUOTE="flowdee79"]

[QUOTE="uRan_Ehr"]Windows is also a big weakness I think. daytona_178

how do you figure

It is badly designed and their model for operating systems is inherantly flawed, but it gets them more cash so they stick with it, ie. Release an operating system in its infancy knowing full well it is not ready, then updating it with fixes and tacking on software periodically. Linux and Mac OSes are designed from the ground up and are much more efficient, stable and robust. Hell, the only reason, Windows is so popular is because it has the largest range of compatible software, mostly in game terms. Luckily, with the advent of console gaming as a mass market, gaming focus is shifting away from PCs and so a lot of developers are seeing the bonus of developing applications for multiple operating systems.

Whats problems do you have with windows then?

If you take vista for example seing as it was released recently most of the problems it had was with driver support, but you cant blame microsoft for that!

I'm not talking just about bug fixes, I am referring to inadequacies in general. If you look at the bench-markings of Windows Vista Compared to SP1 then look at the size of download required to implement SP1, it's obvious that those massive improvements in speed could have been implemented before the release of the OS which was miles less capable than it should have been. Before the release of SP1 for Vista, XP outperformed it in almost all speed respects. I think it is outrageous that they released Vista with the promise of a "much better platform for software and gaming" when actually it was far inferior to its predecessor.