Don Mattrick: "If You're Backwards Compatible, You're Really Backwards&quot

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#1 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Hmm, I wonder how System Wars will react to this...

Microsofts Mattrick says he doesnt think compatibility is really a problem. He said only 5% of customers play older games on a new videogame system anyway, so spending time and money to develop technology to allow them to play older games isnt worth it.

If youre backwards compatible, youre really backwards, he said.

Social media research firm Fizziology said its surveys of potential customers before the Xbox event showed 12% of them would be unhappy if there wasnt backwards compatibility.

Hold on to your horses before you think cows and lems can unite on this issue... you know how Sony is at least trying to get some sort of backwards compatibility running over Gaikai? Yeah, guess what Microsoft's doing.

Sony said it is working to make its gaming system offer customers a way to play older games made for the PlayStation 3 (and earlier) by streaming all the information from servers. Microsoft indicated it isnt planning to offer that type of service.

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Looks like the third console curse really is real.

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#2 RR360DD
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The Xbox mini rumour working with the new Xbox to offer BC may come true. Theres exciting Xbox 360 news around the corner apparently :P
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Looks like the third console curse really is real.

charizard1605

This... the idiocy displayed by MS in only a single day is making my head hurt!

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Wonderful attitude.
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lol what an a$$hat im even more confident in giving my money to sony now lol

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Sony did it with the PS3 right in the middle if its life cycle. The XO and PS4 are doing it from the beginning which sucks.
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Keep it up Microsoft, you're doing great. :roll:
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The Xbox mini rumour working with the new Xbox to offer BC may come true. Theres exciting Xbox 360 news around the corner apparently :PRR360DD
Great! pay over $100 to get access to all your previous games. Nintendo is the only one thinking straight.
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5 billion transistors

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

Looks like the third console curse really is real.

Rocker6

This... the idiocy displayed by MS in only a single day is making my head hurt!

Its making my face hurt with all the entertaining threads they have spawned.:lol:

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#12 Suppaman100
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SRS? Come on he did not say that? Are u f*ckin kidding me MS? It's like they want their new console to fail as hard as it can.

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TV, sports, Call of Duty.

That is all lems care about.

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The Xbox mini rumour working with the new Xbox to offer BC may come true. Theres exciting Xbox 360 news around the corner apparently :PRR360DD
This would suggest not. He just said developing backwards compatibility technologies is a waste of time and money.
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I liked the ability to play original xbox games on the 360, though I'll admit, I probably used it only once or twice. I really don't see how making you pay to play your games again is any better. Regardless of whether you buy an X1 or a ps4, you are going to want to hold on to your 360/ps3 to play your games.
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]The Xbox mini rumour working with the new Xbox to offer BC may come true. Theres exciting Xbox 360 news around the corner apparently :Pzeroyaoi
Great! pay over $100 to get access to all your previous games. Nintendo is the only one thinking straight.

i bet people will be stupid enough to buy an add-on for their new xbox that's almost the size of the 360 just to play their 360 games instead of keeping their 360s.
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Telling you, next generation, go Playstation, go Wii U. The consoles for the gamers, by the gamers, of the gamers.
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I really don't care anymore. This just makes me want to wait a year or two before getting the Playstation 4 and Xbox ONE.
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TV, sports, Call of Duty.

That is all lems care about.

NathanDrakeSwag

Kinect! TV! Sports!

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Telling you, next generation, go Playstation, go Wii U. The consoles for the gamers, by the gamers, of the gamers.charizard1605
PC + Wii U = Win for the next two years. Wait until the PS4 gets some games to add it.
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Telling you, next generation, go Playstation, go Wii U. The consoles for the gamers, by the gamers, of the gamers.charizard1605
Please don't tell lies. Wii U is not a console for real gamers. Playstation 4 is BY FAR our only hope now that this gen won't fail.
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Telling you, next generation, go Playstation, go Wii U. The consoles for the gamers, by the gamers, of the gamers.charizard1605
Not Wii U lol, i know you like Nintendo but buying that disaster is throwing money away.
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If You're Backwards Compatible, You're Really BackwardsDon Mattrick
F*** you too, Mattrick. :|
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Telling you, next generation, go Playstation, go Wii U. The consoles for the gamers, by the gamers, of the gamers.Suppaman100
Please don't tell lies. Wii U is not a console for real gamers. Playstation 4 is BY FAR our only hope now that this gen won't fail.

Because YOU get to decide what REAL gamers play, am I right? :roll:
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Telling you, next generation, go Playstation, go Wii U. The consoles for the gamers, by the gamers, of the gamers.PCgameruk
Not Wii U lol, i know you like Nintendo but buying that disaster is throwing money away.

Really? It's a console that is BOUND to get great games (first party in house stuff, second party collaborations, third party exclusives, and all of this in addition to the multiplats that it will get), allows full backwards compatibility, no blocking of used games, no always online, no pay to play online, and a focus on games instead of TV and sports and gimmicks... I don't know, that sounds like a real gamers' system to me.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Telling you, next generation, go Playstation, go Wii U. The consoles for the gamers, by the gamers, of the gamers.Suppaman100
Please don't tell lies. Wii U is not a console for real gamers. Playstation 4 is BY FAR our only hope now that this gen won't fail.

Nah, Wii U is a console for real gamers too. It will supplement the PS4 very nicely, in my opinion.
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[QUOTE="Suppaman100"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]Telling you, next generation, go Playstation, go Wii U. The consoles for the gamers, by the gamers, of the gamers.nintendoboy16
Please don't tell lies. Wii U is not a console for real gamers. Playstation 4 is BY FAR our only hope now that this gen won't fail.

Because YOU get to decide what REAL gamers play, am I right? :roll:

Ok "nintendoboy16", what do you like about the Wii U?
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Telling you, next generation, go Playstation, go Wii U. The consoles for the gamers, by the gamers, of the gamers.ShadowDeathX
PC + Wii U = Win for the next two years. Wait until the PS4 gets some games to add it.

Games are not looking to be a problem with PS4 :P
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[QUOTE="PCgameruk"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]Telling you, next generation, go Playstation, go Wii U. The consoles for the gamers, by the gamers, of the gamers.charizard1605
Not Wii U lol, i know you like Nintendo but buying that disaster is throwing money away.

Really? It's a console that is BOUND to get great games (first party in house stuff, second party collaborations, third party exclusives, and all of this in addition to the multiplats that it will get), allows full backwards compatibility, no blocking of used games, no always online, no pay to play online, and a focus on games instead of TV and sports and gimmicks... I don't know, that sounds like a real gamers' system to me.

But will they all be 1980s rehashes? :P

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:roll: :x

Microsoft, you are the one's who are backwards!!! :evil:

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="PCgameruk"] Not Wii U lol, i know you like Nintendo but buying that disaster is throwing money away.NathanDrakeSwag

Really? It's a console that is BOUND to get great games (first party in house stuff, second party collaborations, third party exclusives, and all of this in addition to the multiplats that it will get), allows full backwards compatibility, no blocking of used games, no always online, no pay to play online, and a focus on games instead of TV and sports and gimmicks... I don't know, that sounds like a real gamers' system to me.

But will they all be 1980s rehashes? :P

Hopefully not lol
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[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]Telling you, next generation, go Playstation, go Wii U. The consoles for the gamers, by the gamers, of the gamers.charizard1605
PC + Wii U = Win for the next two years. Wait until the PS4 gets some games to add it.

Games are not looking to be a problem with PS4 :P

Even how good the PS4 looks now, it will still get it's dry game period for at least until Holiday 2014. Wii U will be out of it's dry period come September and games will be released for it in a more even flow. :) Can't WAIT!
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[QUOTE="Suppaman100"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]Telling you, next generation, go Playstation, go Wii U. The consoles for the gamers, by the gamers, of the gamers.charizard1605
Please don't tell lies. Wii U is not a console for real gamers. Playstation 4 is BY FAR our only hope now that this gen won't fail.

Nah, Wii U is a console for real gamers too. It will supplement the PS4 very nicely, in my opinion.

I believe a good gaming PC + 1 console + 1 handheld is the best combo

I got a gaming PC and plan on building another later on this year, and already got a PSV.. next up will probably be a PS4 since currently there is nothing interesting for me on WiiU and the Xbox One announcement didnt get me excited at all :(

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See, when people say stuff like that, it just ruins their credit and anything they say in the future is void and irrelevant to me.
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[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"][QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"] PC + Wii U = Win for the next two years. Wait until the PS4 gets some games to add it.

Games are not looking to be a problem with PS4 :P

Even how good the PS4 looks now, it will still get it's dry game period for at least until Holiday 2014. Wii U will be out of it's dry period come September and games will be released for it in a more even flow. :) Can't WAIT!

Yes, it'll be great when games start flowing: Pikmin, Wonderful 101, Wind Waker Reborn (this is when I buy the system), and whatever they have planned for the holidays (rumors say Retro's new game and Mario Kart, but we'll see); add to that the firmware problems finally being fixed, and a price drop, and the Wii U looks like a mighty fine alternative all of a sudden. Still has a shit name though.
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Seems microsoft are the ones who are backwards.

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I couldn't care less about BC but that's pretty arrogant to say. MS sound more and more like the Sony of 06 it's embarrassing.
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What a complete and total moron this guy is. MS has the WORST representatives by a freaking mile. Completely clueless.

At least when sony announced no BC, they were like, we wanted to do it but the cost would have held the system back, it was a necessary evil. We're sorry. 

Then this guy comes out, and says well youre dumb if you want it. Just facepalm. UGH. 

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The Xbox went backwards from 360 to 1.
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Telling you, next generation, go Playstation, go Wii U. The consoles for the gamers, by the gamers, of the gamers.charizard1605

Reading this made me sick to my stomach.

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What do you expect, he came from EA.

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I think Mr. Mattrick is the only one who is backwards if he expects people to buy his console when he trashes those of us who enjoy backwards compatibility.

I still played Dark Alliance 2 with my cousin on the 360 up until Daggerdale came out. What is this guy smoking?

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Telling you, next generation, go Playstation, go Wii U. The consoles for the gamers, by the gamers, of the gamers.charizard1605

 

Do we know anything else about the PS4 and the Xbox one yet?

It's way to earlier ot make a decision like that.

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What anasshole.

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What a complete and total moron this guy is. MS has the WORST representatives by a freaking mile. Completely clueless.

At least when sony announced no BC, they were like, we wanted to do it but the cost would have held the system back, it was a necessary evil. We're sorry. 

Then this guy comes out, and says well youre dumb if you want it. Just facepalm. UGH. 

VendettaRed07

When did he say that?

Unless I'm reading it wrong, he said "If You're Backwards Compatible, You're Really Backwards" - talking about the console. Not the customer. Why would the customer be backwards compatible?

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[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]Games are not looking to be a problem with PS4 :Pcharizard1605
Even how good the PS4 looks now, it will still get it's dry game period for at least until Holiday 2014. Wii U will be out of it's dry period come September and games will be released for it in a more even flow. :) Can't WAIT!

Yes, it'll be great when games start flowing: Pikmin, Wonderful 101, Wind Waker Reborn (this is when I buy the system), and whatever they have planned for the holidays (rumors say Retro's new game and Mario Kart, but we'll see); add to that the firmware problems finally being fixed, and a price drop, and the Wii U looks like a mighty fine alternative all of a sudden. Still has a shit name though.

Nintendo is just boring now,, What if im sick to death of Mario? I got a Wii and a 3DS why do i want Mario Kart that's still the same game? If they gave me a new Metroid prime and Zelda id be more happy. But i would still want new IP's. Why would any1 pick up a Wii U when a great looking PS4 is on the way? Wii U needs to die so Nintendo will go back to gaming, not gimmicks to sell consoles for casuals.
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It's not a big deal to me personally. I get new console to play new games. Sadly for X1, games are not its main focus.
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When did he say that?

Unless I'm reading it wrong, he said "If You're Backwards Compatible, You're Really Backwards" - talking about the console. Not the customer. Why would the customer be backwards compatible?

RR360DD

Oh stop the bullshit.

Any reasonable person reading that statement can conclude he is talking about the customer when he says "You're really backwards".

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Xbox One: It's 359 steps backwards.

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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

When did he say that?

Unless I'm reading it wrong, he said "If You're Backwards Compatible, You're Really Backwards" - talking about the console. Not the customer. Why would the customer be backwards compatible?

airshocker

Oh stop the bullshit.

Any reasonable person reading that statement can conclude he is talking about the customer when he says "You're really backwards".

Actually he's talking about the mentality of a console manufacturer, not the customer. In other words "If you are designing a console with BC then your console is backwards" It's still the words of an asshat, but there is no need to make it what it isn't.