Don't bother with Demons Souls.....

[QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

Such a ridiculous game..... you can play for hours, but die, and those hours spent, mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! yeah thats right....even XP.... sure you can get your XP back if you get to your body.... oh wait, all the enemies have respawned.... but the items you used to survive until that point havent respawned into your backpack.

And if you die again trying to get back to your body.... then the XP is gone for good. This game is good for people who don't have much money, and want a game that will last a long time, due to it demanding you play for hours in order to get nowhere.

I originally gave this game a 9/10.... now I'm thinking 7/10.

If you do decide to play it.... don't be a "thief".... If it turns out that I'm having such a hard time due to choosing a difficult type of character to play as, then I'll gladly retract my previous statements.

h575309

There are some enemies to get by, that will kill you in 1 or 2 hits..... so make a mistake, a single mistake and BAM! game over! So don't make it sound so simple, when it really isn't.... especially when you spend all your arrows & such to get near the end.... so you die, and all your items that got you to where you were the 1st time are gone, making it virtually impossible to get back to your body without dying.

So you are left with a terrible choice... try to get your XP back, spend more time and lose it all.... or just lose your original XP.

Its meaty for a pack in strat guide, and from what I can tell gives you everything you need. Bestiary, walkthrough, etc. It was worth the extra six dollars.h575309

[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] but the problem is you spend a ton of souls leveling ( you level by adding 1 stat point, after levling a stat point the amount of souls for the next one goes up regardless), so when you go and come back you'll have to go through all the enemies again and again and again, and as far as a class goes ,I choose knight, strong, but gets to keep the speed of a theif while wearing armor. http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/demon-s-souls That may help you as wellAnimal-Mother

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="h575309"] Im a knight too haha. Not to mention he looks badass. I love when he pulls off a shield counter and one hit kills an enemy. So sweet.h575309

[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

Such a ridiculous game..... you can play for hours, but die, and those hours spent, mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! yeah thats right....even XP.... sure you can get your XP back if you get to your body.... oh wait, all the enemies have respawned.... but the items you used to survive until that point havent respawned into your backpack.

And if you die again trying to get back to your body.... then the XP is gone for good. This game is good for people who don't have much money, and want a game that will last a long time, due to it demanding you play for hours in order to get nowhere.

I originally gave this game a 9/10.... now I'm thinking 7/10.

If you do decide to play it.... don't be a "thief".... If it turns out that I'm having such a hard time due to choosing a difficult type of character to play as, then I'll gladly retract my previous statements.

There are some enemies to get by, that will kill you in 1 or 2 hits..... so make a mistake, a single mistake and BAM! game over! So don't make it sound so simple, when it really isn't.... especially when you spend all your arrows & such to get near the end.... so you die, and all your items that got you to where you were the 1st time are gone, making it virtually impossible to get back to your body without dying.

So you are left with a terrible choice... try to get your XP back, spend more time and lose it all.... or just lose your original XP.

[QUOTE="zarshack"]

[QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

maybe so.... but I beat Ninja Gaiden 2 on Warrior without any problems.... People talked about how hard that was.... I didn't think this game would be so unforgiving. I will probably jsut give up on it.... there are far too many great games coming out, plus others I already own that I've hardly touched... I gotta ask myself "whats the point of wasting all this time on 1 game and not getting anywhere, when I can have better experiences elsewhere?"

Sure the game isn't all bad.... but I've got Uncharted 2, Borderlands, Forza3 & Dragon Age (which will be 3x better than Demons Souls, I'm sure) coming soon.

Anyway... I'm not telling those of you who are playing and enjoy it, not to do so... great, good for you.... but this is more of a warning to others that havent thrown down the cash on it yet... steer clear for now, pick it up sometime when there is a gaming lull, and get it then at a much cheaper price... that way, if you don't like it, you haven't wasted $60 on it.... or rent it first.

tontontam0

That's impossible

Not impossible I can do that now.

What is this "Consuming for Soul Points thing".... maybe the game is so damned hard because I have no English Manual.

Demon's Souls is amazing!!! I am thoroughly enjoying it. I spent my entire day on the first part of the game. Finally beat the first boss lol.

This game will last me a really long time.

might not get this game now....sounds too frustrating and hard

[QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

[QUOTE="h575309"] Well dont die going back to get your souls. And the game at least saves your progress if you open a door or something. Its not as bad as your making it out to be.h575309

There are some enemies to get by, that will kill you in 1 or 2 hits..... so make a mistake, a single mistake and BAM! game over! So don't make it sound so simple, when it really isn't.... especially when you spend all your arrows & such to get near the end.... so you die, and all your items that got you to where you were the 1st time are gone, making it virtually impossible to get back to your body without dying.

So you are left with a terrible choice... try to get your XP back, spend more time and lose it all.... or just lose your original XP.

Okay... now thats the stupidest thing I've ever heard.... Melee based characters get unlimited Arrows? and my Thief (ranged) has to keep an inventory of them..... the other way around would make alot more sense.

That would be like giving the thief unlimited magic power, and not the caster characters.... WTF?

[QUOTE="h575309"] Its meaty for a pack in strat guide, and from what I can tell gives you everything you need. Bestiary, walkthrough, etc. It was worth the extra six dollars.Jandurin

There are some enemies to get by, that will kill you in 1 or 2 hits..... so make a mistake, a single mistake and BAM! game over! So don't make it sound so simple, when it really isn't.... especially when you spend all your arrows & such to get near the end.... so you die, and all your items that got you to where you were the 1st time are gone, making it virtually impossible to get back to your body without dying.

So you are left with a terrible choice... try to get your XP back, spend more time and lose it all.... or just lose your original XP.

whatisazerg

[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

There are some enemies to get by, that will kill you in 1 or 2 hits..... so make a mistake, a single mistake and BAM! game over! So don't make it sound so simple, when it really isn't.... especially when you spend all your arrows & such to get near the end.... so you die, and all your items that got you to where you were the 1st time are gone, making it virtually impossible to get back to your body without dying.

So you are left with a terrible choice... try to get your XP back, spend more time and lose it all.... or just lose your original XP.

Okay... now thats the stupidest thing I've ever heard.... Melee based characters get unlimited Arrows? and my Thief (ranged) has to keep an inventory of them..... the other way around would make alot more sense.

That would be like giving the thief unlimited magic power, and not the caster characters.... WTF?

might not get this game now....sounds too frustrating and hard

sikanderahmed

Hold on its in my briefcase.... LOLh575309

Dude, lol. Im saying melee based characters dont run out of arrows because they focus on melee and not ranged. h575309

as stated, you need to spend the souls before you die. Also there's physical forms of souls in your bag such as the hero and soldier souls which can be cashed at any time and used as currency, but only use them when you're ready to spend souls. Also if you make it up to your old bloodstain, you'll be gaining more souls by the end of the level than you would have without dying. It's not really seen as XP, but more as currency. You use it not only for stats, but for weapon upgrades, armor, items, miracles and magic. You don't ever really need to spend souls on stat points and you can actually beat the game at the soul level you started at, so I wouldn't really refer to it as "XP" perse.

I played for hours yesterday (my NA copy first playthrough) and completed 1-1, 1-2, 1-3, 2-1, 2-2, 2-3, 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, so all I got left is 1-4, dungeon 3 and dungeon 5. At Soul level 51 and I got a meatcleaver, lava bow, my keel smasher (now known as dragon bone smasher), got my purple flame shield upgraded to +3, unchigatana upgraded to a tearing +2, and I got soul light as a temple knight.

Where as you're feeling really frustrated, I'm feeling very content for only putting a few hours in. Maybe it's just not your game and you're trying to rush or force it too hard.

I mean, I would be pissed off if I sucked too.

as stated, you need to spend the souls before you die. Also there's physical forms of souls in your bag such as the hero and soldier souls which can be cashed at any time and used as currency, but only use them when you're ready to spend souls. Also if you make it up to your old bloodstain, you'll be gaining more souls by the end of the level than you would have without dying. It's not really seen as XP, but more as currency. You use it not only for stats, but for weapon upgrades, armor, items, miracles and magic. You don't ever really need to spend souls on stat points and you can actually beat the game at the soul level you started at, so I wouldn't really refer to it as "XP" perse.

I played for a few hours yesterday (my NA copy first playthrough) and completed 1-1, 1-2, 1-3, 2-1, 2-2, 2-3, 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, so all I got left is 1-4, dungeon 3 and dungeon 5. At Soul level 51 and I got a meatcleaver, lava bow, my keel smasher (now known as dragon bone smasher), got my purple flame shield upgraded to +3, unchigatana upgraded to a tearing +2, and I got soul light as a temple knight.

Where you're feeling really frustrated, I'm feeling very content for only putting a few hours in. Maybe it's just not your game and you're trying to rush or force it too hard.

I mean, I would be pissed off if I sucked too.

Some-Mist

Can you only get the guide with the deluxe edition?

play as royality, man.. you have a MP regenerating ring. and it's soo easy.. when you use demon soul arrows.

[QUOTE="Some-Mist"]

as stated, you need to spend the souls before you die. Also there's physical forms of souls in your bag such as the hero and soldier souls which can be cashed at any time and used as currency, but only use them when you're ready to spend souls. Also if you make it up to your old bloodstain, you'll be gaining more souls by the end of the level than you would have without dying. It's not really seen as XP, but more as currency. You use it not only for stats, but for weapon upgrades, armor, items, miracles and magic. You don't ever really need to spend souls on stat points and you can actually beat the game at the soul level you started at, so I wouldn't really refer to it as "XP" perse.

I played for hours yesterday (my NA copy first playthrough) and completed 1-1, 1-2, 1-3, 2-1, 2-2, 2-3, 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, so all I got left is 1-4, dungeon 3 and dungeon 5. At Soul level 51 and I got a meatcleaver, lava bow, my keel smasher (now known as dragon bone smasher), got my purple flame shield upgraded to +3, unchigatana upgraded to a tearing +2, and I got soul light as a temple knight.

Where as you're feeling really frustrated, I'm feeling very content for only putting a few hours in. Maybe it's just not your game and you're trying to rush or force it too hard.

I mean, I would be pissed off if I sucked too.

Jandurin

the game feels and plays the exact same way. The only differences being a new trophy set, and different names (a lot of the physical souls you hold in your bag, and a few of the weapon names). I had 3 different characters on asian servers and probably beat 10 new games, but after your first new game it's extremely easy to breeze through new games+.

I remember playing it for my first time, and there was no wikidot or anything so I tried to base my character around the blueblood sword (dunno if it's still called that?) and raising my luck stat all the way up, and I noticed that for PvE it was awesome, but for PvP it was pure fail, so I made a new character. After you beat the game for the first time (which probably took me roughly 30-50 hours, can't recall exactly) the new game was so much easier even though the difficulty of the monsters go up. I now try to base my character on a heavy melee and light magic type of setup. That was I can use the magic when neccessary in PvE, and PvP is very melee based.

the game feels and plays the exact same way. The only differences being a new trophy set, and different names (a lot of the physical souls you hold in your bag, and a few of the weapon names). I had 3 different characters on asian servers and probably beat 10 new games, but after your first new game it's extremely easy to breeze through new games+.

I remember playing it for my first time, and there was no wikidot or anything so I tried to base my character around the blueblood sword (dunno if it's still called that?) and raising my luck stat all the way up, and I noticed that for PvE it was awesome, but for PvP it was pure fail, so I made a new character. After you beat the game for the first time (which probably took me roughly 30-50 hours, can't recall exactly) the new game was so much easier even though the difficulty of the monsters go up. I now try to base my character on a heavy melee and light magic type of setup. That was I can use the magic when neccessary in PvE, and PvP is very melee based.

[QUOTE="h575309"] Dude, lol. Im saying melee based characters dont run out of arrows because they focus on melee and not ranged. zarshack

[QUOTE="zarshack"]

[QUOTE="h575309"] Dude, lol. Im saying melee based characters dont run out of arrows because they focus on melee and not ranged. h575309

[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="zarshack"] he wouldnt be running out of arrows but he'd be running out of life instead, it takes alot more skill to play as a melee as opposed to a ranged class.

zarshack

Such a ridiculous game..... you can play for hours, but die, and those hours spent, mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! yeah thats right....even XP.... sure you can get your XP back if you get to your body.... oh wait, all the enemies have respawned.... but the items you used to survive until that point havent respawned into your backpack.

And if you die again trying to get back to your body.... then the XP is gone for good. This game is good for people who don't have much money, and want a game that will last a long time, due to it demanding you play for hours in order to get nowhere.

I originally gave this game a 9/10.... now I'm thinking 7/10.

If you do decide to play it.... don't be a "thief".... If it turns out that I'm having such a hard time due to choosing a difficult type of character to play as, then I'll gladly retract my previous statements.

whatisazerg

Seriously it's not that hard..... I rarely had any trouble getting my souls back in my first game and in some ways NG+ is less of a hassle than the first playthrough (since I have ubar gear and skill now :)).

I'm not some kind of amazing gaming hero so if I can do it, so can you people..... Do a little research and come prepared....

Oh and by all means, do start as a thief if you want to. Starting class means nothing down the line. In fact, I'm sure that's why they call them origins instead of classes.

[QUOTE="zarshack"]

[QUOTE="h575309"] OK well, I have only played through 1-1 so far, so I dont want to jump to conclusions. That section wasnt bad really. In fact, it made me think about encounters more the next time, and was really cool. I dont know maybe this section is very easy so Ill stop but from what I played, the game wasnt frustrating. It was just me being overly aggressive and not being smart.Animal-Mother

[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="zarshack"] he wouldnt be running out of arrows but he'd be running out of life instead, it takes alot more skill to play as a melee as opposed to a ranged class.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="zarshack"]1-1 is like the starting area, and is the easiest part of the game by far. wait until you get up to flame lurker for the first time.

zarshack

[QUOTE="zarshack"]

[QUOTE="h575309"] OK well, I have only played through 1-1 so far, so I dont want to jump to conclusions. That section wasnt bad really. In fact, it made me think about encounters more the next time, and was really cool. I dont know maybe this section is very easy so Ill stop but from what I played, the game wasnt frustrating. It was just me being overly aggressive and not being smart.h575309

Can you only get the guide with the deluxe edition?

So why not grind and grind, get stronger, and then take on the harder stuff? And is the tower knight that red eyed fella? I didnt fight him yet lol. Out of curiousity, you can go back to all these sections again after you defeat the boss right?h575309

Can you only get the guide with the deluxe edition?

Lulz, ya im taking the first two bridges undergound and the thrid up top. But in all honest how much time did you spend in soul form your first playthrough?>Animal-Mother

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Lulz, ya im taking the first two bridges undergound and the thrid up top. But in all honest how much time did you spend in soul form your first playthrough?>zarshack

[QUOTE="zarshack"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Lulz, ya im taking the first two bridges undergound and the thrid up top. But in all honest how much time did you spend in soul form your first playthrough?>Jandurin

Can you only get the guide with the deluxe edition?

lulz, the thing is enemy's respawn, and when you go to your place of death you usually die, again and a lot.Animal-Mother

Uh, TC? All my items are in my backpack after I die. All of them. What did you set the game to a higher difficulty or something? It would be impossible to get back to your bloodstain if you didn't have your items.

I think almost all the reviews i've seen of this title hit the nail on the head. This is a really 'hard' game however, it doesn't feel impossible, like the computer is exploiting mechanics and what not to just cheap shot kill you. All the deaths i've had were easily corrected once I gained some more knowledge and strategy as to how to fight.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Flamestos"] Yes, Atlus has said no other guide will be released from any other source for Demon Souls. The Deluxe Edition is the only way to get a Demon Souls guide.Flamestos

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]you can die in the nexus?Animal-Mother

i have never been invaded in the nexus so i cant confirm it, im pretty sure you cant though. and yeah you just jump off from a ledge haha.

Uh, TC? All my items are in my backpack after I die. All of them. What did you set the game to a higher difficulty or something? It would be impossible to get back to your bloodstain if you didn't have your items.

I think almost all the reviews i've seen of this title hit the nail on the head. This is a really 'hard' game however, it doesn't feel impossible, like the computer is exploiting mechanics and what not to just cheap shot kill you. All the deaths i've had were easily corrected once I gained some more knowledge and strategy as to how to fight.

Shensolidus

It seems we have alot of Demon Soul players in here, and I know I should probably go somewhere else to ask this question, but how the hell do I get magic in that game? I picked wanderer as my starting class (good choice imo) and now I wanna use some magic, but can't find jack.

It seems we have alot of Demon Soul players in here, and I know I should probably go somewhere else to ask this question, but how the hell do I get magic in that game? I picked wanderer as my starting class (good choice imo) and now I wanna use some magic, but can't find jack.

Shensolidus

It seems we have alot of Demon Soul players in here, and I know I should probably go somewhere else to ask this question, but how the hell do I get magic in that game? I picked wanderer as my starting class (good choice imo) and now I wanna use some magic, but can't find jack.

Shensolidus

It's funny that people say NG2 was more cheap then hard, but DS is also extremely cheap, and the thing OP mentions is one of them. Losing all your stuff isn't "hard", it's cheap and frustrating.