This will be the gretest RTS/"RTT i really dont care what you prefer" game. I dunno about you guys but i have alot of hype for this game. Company of heroes was the best rts when it came out, and it looks like relics gonna do it with dow2.
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Absolutely not.
DoW2 is the biggest let-down since Devil May Cry 2. The game is so shallow and boring to play. The graphics are okay, but that's about it.
This is coming from someone who loved the first DoW.
[QUOTE="Aljosa23"][QUOTE="kieranb2000"]Most of the hype for it died when the Beta came out.jeezersBingo! :D wats wrong with the beta, i liked it, and loved dark crusade. To put it simply, the Beta was pretty terrible. It once again proved how pathetic a service Games For Windows Live is, often you will be unable to find matches unless you specifically add someone in your friends list. It's laggy and suffers from lots of other problems like all GFWL games. Then, there was the actual game, which is MAJORLY simplified, the lack of base-building which people originally thought "hey this could be neat if done well" has generally been spurned, as it removes a lot of depth from the game. Most people were under the impression that this meant that there would be more depth added to the actual combat. They were of course wrong. Dark Crusade was good, but I dont see what that has to do with anything.
[QUOTE="jeezers"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Bingo! :Dkieranb2000wats wrong with the beta, i liked it, and loved dark crusade. To put it simply, the Beta was pretty terrible. It once again proved how pathetic a service Games For Windows Live is, often you will be unable to find matches unless you specifically add someone in your friends list. It's laggy and suffers from lots of other problems like all GFWL games. Then, there was the actual game, which is MAJORLY simplified, the lack of base-building which people originally thought "hey this could be neat if done well" has generally been spurned, as it removes a lot of depth from the game. Most people were under the impression that this meant that there would be more depth added to the actual combat. They were of course wrong. Dark Crusade was good, but I dont see what that has to do with anything. There is a different type of depth in the combat for this DOW, its much more tactical and a lot harder to be good at. Your punished for losing valuable troops and teamwork is essential i think your being a tad to harsh to the actual game and unlucky for you because your going to miss out. Windows Live on the other hand well i will have to see how that performs when i have the full game.
The graphics are definitely not on Halo War's level but I might check it out.nVidiaGaMerHalo Wars looks like crap, IMO. If you zoomed it in it wouldn't look quite as good. I am pre-ordering the game because I loved the beta.
Died for me when I heard the beta maps were the only maps in the retail game. Seriously? 5 maps!?spinecaton7-8 maps. There will be a launch day patch and content update.
[QUOTE="spinecaton"]Died for me when I heard the beta maps were the only maps in the retail game. Seriously? 5 maps!?Einhanderkiller7-8 maps. There will be a launch day patch and content update. So more maps? I read from the IGN review it was only 7, but if you're right about the patch...
[QUOTE="Einhanderkiller"][QUOTE="spinecaton"] 7-8 maps. There will be a launch day patch and content update.aaronmullanSo more maps? I read from the IGN review it was only 7, but if you're right about the patch...
7 maps now, more with free DLC latter
It's free now though, so that's alright. I don't mind GFWL being used in games, as most of my friends own 360s so I can communicate easily with them in game using it, but it is absolutely abysmal when it comes to actual online play.kieranb2000
I wanted to hate GfWL, but after it worked the whole beta without a single problem and found games quite fast, while steam crashed every now and then for no reaosn at all, i just don't know what to think... certanly a step up from lamespy and relic online
[QUOTE="Einhanderkiller"][QUOTE="spinecaton"] 7-8 maps. There will be a launch day patch and content update.Enosh88So more maps? I read from the IGN review it was only 7, but if you're right about the patch...
7 maps now, more with free DLC latter
Better be free:evil:
I'll probably pick the game up a couple months down the road. Wasn't too impressed with the beta to warrant a purchase from me.
There is a different type of depth in the combat for this DOW, its much more tactical and a lot harder to be good at. jwsoul
No. 'Nid HT Venom Cannon + Warriors to Carnifex = win.
Oh, and yes, DoW2 is a shallow, shallow game. Biggest disappointment ever.
[QUOTE="jwsoul"]There is a different type of depth in the combat for this DOW, its much more tactical and a lot harder to be good at. Redmoonxl2
No. 'Nid HT Venom Cannon + Warriors to Carnifex = win.
Oh, and yes, DoW2 is a shallow, shallow game. Biggest disappointment ever.
I hate how the need to flank and out move suppression units has largely been replaced by nearly uncounterable special abilities.
I agree. DoW 2 was a big let down. The Multiplayer beta was pretty bad. Didn't like it. it was either you win by a very large margin or you lose by a very large margin. Those rare instances where you win by 50 or below victory points is about 1 in 100. Relic also took out base building... Not happy with that at all. I was really excited about this game, now I'm not sure I'm even getting it day 1 which is tomorrow. Probably going to wait until its $30 or below.Absolutely not.
DoW2 is the biggest let-down since Devil May Cry 2. The game is so shallow and boring to play. The graphics are okay, but that's about it.
This is coming from someone who loved the first DoW.
Aljosa23
Game is fun, but considering the hype that it was 'the' rts for 2009 it does feel a bit underwhelming. Heroes are fun, however other things feel like a step back from CoH.Nikalai_88Pretty sure either SC2 or Empire: Total War has had the hype of RTS of the year.
[QUOTE="jeezers"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Bingo! :Dkieranb2000wats wrong with the beta, i liked it, and loved dark crusade. To put it simply, the Beta was pretty terrible. It once again proved how pathetic a service Games For Windows Live is, often you will be unable to find matches unless you specifically add someone in your friends list. It's laggy and suffers from lots of other problems like all GFWL games. Then, there was the actual game, which is MAJORLY simplified, the lack of base-building which people originally thought "hey this could be neat if done well" has generally been spurned, as it removes a lot of depth from the game. Most people were under the impression that this meant that there would be more depth added to the actual combat. They were of course wrong. Dark Crusade was good, but I dont see what that has to do with anything. How is Live the cause of performance lag from people with poor computers and ping lag? And if no one is playing and it cannot find someone to match you with whose fault is that?
Judging by the beta, it's already one of the best games this year. People are just bitter that it isn't DoW 1 with better graphics.404-not-foundya thats what the vibe seems to be, i just people give it a chance, the matchmaking got signifficantly better throughout the beta, and alot of bugs were fixed, base building is tedious and borring, i dont know why so many people miss it.
Died for me when I heard the beta maps were the only maps in the retail game. Seriously? 5 maps!?spinecatonrofl.."bu bu but teh mods!!" :roll:
Judging by the beta, it's already one of the best games this year. People are just bitter that it isn't DoW 1 with better graphics.404-not-found
Yes, people are bitter because they expected a deeper game than what they got. I mean, what did they expect? A game where you can branch out with a branching and deep tech tree while having support buildings/structures coming into play? How about a game where half of the units in each faction weren't a complete money sink and waste? Silly them.
Pity, too. The game IS fun, but its so limited that it quickly becomes boring.
[QUOTE="jwsoul"]There is a different type of depth in the combat for this DOW, its much more tactical and a lot harder to be good at. Redmoonxl2
No. 'Nid HT Venom Cannon + Warriors to Carnifex = win.
Oh, and yes, DoW2 is a shallow, shallow game. Biggest disappointment ever.
Really? Even after they nerfed the hell out of it? Or were you possibly basing your opinion of the balance off of a beta that was being used for balancing. lol.The graphics are definitely not on Halo War's level but I might check it out.nVidiaGaMer
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You are right though, DoW2 is many levels higher than HW. If you think otherwise you really need an eye test.
To all the other moaning hermits here, its people like you that are keeping PC gameing in the stoneage, I for one applaud Relic for trying something different rather than making DoW with better graphics.
[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]The graphics are definitely not on Halo War's level but I might check it out.Frozzik
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You are right though, DoW2 is many levels higher than HW. If you think otherwise you really need an eye test.
To all the other moaning hermits here, its people like you that are keeping PC gameing in the stoneage, I for one applaud Relic for trying something different rather than making DoW with better graphics.
Hey now, I'm not moaning. I knew the direction Relic was taking before I played the beta. I just wasn't impressed is all. Understand that just cause hermits might not like a certain exclusive doesn't mean anything other than the fact that your opinion differs from theirs. Besides, I think Relic is better than this.[QUOTE="Frozzik"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]The graphics are definitely not on Halo War's level but I might check it out.mo0ksi
sig worthy......
You are right though, DoW2 is many levels higher than HW. If you think otherwise you really need an eye test.
To all the other moaning hermits here, its people like you that are keeping PC gameing in the stoneage, I for one applaud Relic for trying something different rather than making DoW with better graphics.
Hey now, I'm not moaning. I knew the direction Relic was taking before I played the beta. I just wasn't impressed is all. Understand that just cause hermits might not like a certain exclusive doesn't mean anything other than the fact that your opinion differs from theirs. Besides, I think Relic is better than this.I still think relic deserve more respect. Many love the new DoW. Especially fans of the WH40k tabletop game. From what i read this is part of Relic's strategy with DoW2, to get closer to WH40k battles in the TB game. Maybe GW even had a hand in the design of DoW2.
More Devs need to give old and tired PC genres a kick up the backside imo.
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