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#1 jeezers
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This will be the gretest RTS/"RTT i really dont care what you prefer" game. I dunno about you guys but i have alot of hype for this game. Company of heroes was the best rts when it came out, and it looks like relics gonna do it with dow2.

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#2 Ncsoftlover
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It doesn't really need hype in SW, people who loves it will purchase it.
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#3 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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Absolutely not.

DoW2 is the biggest let-down since Devil May Cry 2. The game is so shallow and boring to play. The graphics are okay, but that's about it.

This is coming from someone who loved the first DoW.

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#4 deactivated-64ba3ebd35404
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Most of the hype for it died when the Beta came out.
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#5 Espada12
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Absolutely not.

DoW2 is the biggest let-down since Devil May Cry 2. The game is so shallow and boring to play. The graphics are okay, but that's about it.

This is coming from someone who loved the first DoW.

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Shallow? Oh well. I like it, AA.

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#6 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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Most of the hype for it died when the Beta came out.kieranb2000
Bingo! :D
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#7 jeezers
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[QUOTE="kieranb2000"]Most of the hype for it died when the Beta came out.Aljosa23
Bingo! :D

wats wrong with the beta, i liked it, and loved dark crusade.
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#8 deactivated-64ba3ebd35404
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"][QUOTE="kieranb2000"]Most of the hype for it died when the Beta came out.jeezers
Bingo! :D

wats wrong with the beta, i liked it, and loved dark crusade.

To put it simply, the Beta was pretty terrible. It once again proved how pathetic a service Games For Windows Live is, often you will be unable to find matches unless you specifically add someone in your friends list. It's laggy and suffers from lots of other problems like all GFWL games. Then, there was the actual game, which is MAJORLY simplified, the lack of base-building which people originally thought "hey this could be neat if done well" has generally been spurned, as it removes a lot of depth from the game. Most people were under the impression that this meant that there would be more depth added to the actual combat. They were of course wrong. Dark Crusade was good, but I dont see what that has to do with anything.
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#9 spinecaton
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Died for me when I heard the beta maps were the only maps in the retail game. Seriously? 5 maps!?
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[QUOTE="jeezers"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Bingo! :Dkieranb2000
wats wrong with the beta, i liked it, and loved dark crusade.

To put it simply, the Beta was pretty terrible. It once again proved how pathetic a service Games For Windows Live is, often you will be unable to find matches unless you specifically add someone in your friends list. It's laggy and suffers from lots of other problems like all GFWL games. Then, there was the actual game, which is MAJORLY simplified, the lack of base-building which people originally thought "hey this could be neat if done well" has generally been spurned, as it removes a lot of depth from the game. Most people were under the impression that this meant that there would be more depth added to the actual combat. They were of course wrong. Dark Crusade was good, but I dont see what that has to do with anything.

There is a different type of depth in the combat for this DOW, its much more tactical and a lot harder to be good at. Your punished for losing valuable troops and teamwork is essential i think your being a tad to harsh to the actual game and unlucky for you because your going to miss out. Windows Live on the other hand well i will have to see how that performs when i have the full game.
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The graphics are definitely not on Halo War's level but I might check it out.
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#12 thepwninator
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I played the demo and did not particularly enjoy it-it's simply not my styIe of RTS. I prefer the more strategic than micro-management oriented RTSs like SoaSE and Supreme Commander.
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The graphics are definitely not on Halo War's level but I might check it out.nVidiaGaMer
Halo Wars looks like crap, IMO. If you zoomed it in it wouldn't look quite as good. I am pre-ordering the game because I loved the beta.
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[QUOTE="kieranb2000"] To put it simply, the Beta was pretty terrible. It once again proved how pathetic a service Games For Windows Live is, often you will be unable to find matches unless you specifically add someone in your friends list. It's laggy and suffers from lots of other problems like all GFWL games.

Is it really Windows Live service? I won't support that since they have already tried charging for their service. MS has shown their true colors with online gaming. I love the Dawn of War games, but won't be supporting Windows Live.
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#15 Enosh88
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This is coming from someone who loved the first DoW.

Aljosa23

so? given that dow1 is in no way like dow2 that part doesn't realy matter

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Died for me when I heard the beta maps were the only maps in the retail game. Seriously? 5 maps!?spinecaton
7-8 maps. There will be a launch day patch and content update.
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#17 10MP
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dow2 is not very good, and a step down from COH.

COH > DOW2

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[QUOTE="spinecaton"]Died for me when I heard the beta maps were the only maps in the retail game. Seriously? 5 maps!?Einhanderkiller
7-8 maps. There will be a launch day patch and content update.

So more maps? I read from the IGN review it was only 7, but if you're right about the patch...
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#19 deactivated-64ba3ebd35404
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[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"] [QUOTE="kieranb2000"] To put it simply, the Beta was pretty terrible. It once again proved how pathetic a service Games For Windows Live is, often you will be unable to find matches unless you specifically add someone in your friends list. It's laggy and suffers from lots of other problems like all GFWL games.

Is it really Windows Live service? I won't support that since they have already tried charging for their service. MS has shown their true colors with online gaming. I love the Dawn of War games, but won't be supporting Windows Live.

It's free now though, so that's alright. I don't mind GFWL being used in games, as most of my friends own 360s so I can communicate easily with them in game using it, but it is absolutely abysmal when it comes to actual online play.
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#20 Enosh88
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[QUOTE="Einhanderkiller"][QUOTE="spinecaton"] 7-8 maps. There will be a launch day patch and content update.aaronmullan
So more maps? I read from the IGN review it was only 7, but if you're right about the patch...

7 maps now, more with free DLC latter

It's free now though, so that's alright. I don't mind GFWL being used in games, as most of my friends own 360s so I can communicate easily with them in game using it, but it is absolutely abysmal when it comes to actual online play.kieranb2000

I wanted to hate GfWL, but after it worked the whole beta without a single problem and found games quite fast, while steam crashed every now and then for no reaosn at all, i just don't know what to think... certanly a step up from lamespy and relic online

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#21 12345yon
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i dont know... i enjoyed AOE:2 and 3, those are nice RTS, but the demo of DOW2....
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#22 Enosh88
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i dont know... i enjoyed AOE:2 and 3, those are nice RTS, but the demo of DOW2....12345yon

just by listing AoE2 and aoe3 I could tell you when dow2 was annouced that you won't like it...

which is fine, difrent people got difrent tastes^^

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[QUOTE="Einhanderkiller"][QUOTE="spinecaton"] 7-8 maps. There will be a launch day patch and content update.Enosh88
So more maps? I read from the IGN review it was only 7, but if you're right about the patch...

7 maps now, more with free DLC latter

Better be free:evil:

I'll probably pick the game up a couple months down the road. Wasn't too impressed with the beta to warrant a purchase from me.

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#24 mo0ksi
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I wasn't really digging the beta so I'm gonna pass on the game. Also with Empire Total War on the horizon, it would probably sit on the shelf even if I did decide to buy it.
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#25 -DrRobotnik-
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My PC would fail to run it. But reading comment here has me worried:? I loved the first one.
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#26 Nikalai_88
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Game is fun, but considering the hype that it was 'the' rts for 2009 it does feel a bit underwhelming. Heroes are fun, however other things feel like a step back from CoH.
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#27 Juggernaut140
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I doubt it will be better than CoH
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#28 jeezers
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I doubt it will be better than CoH Juggernaut140
i have coh and love it, but i personally think dow 2 is the better game.
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There is a different type of depth in the combat for this DOW, its much more tactical and a lot harder to be good at. jwsoul

No. 'Nid HT Venom Cannon + Warriors to Carnifex = win.

Oh, and yes, DoW2 is a shallow, shallow game. Biggest disappointment ever.

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[QUOTE="jwsoul"]There is a different type of depth in the combat for this DOW, its much more tactical and a lot harder to be good at. Redmoonxl2

No. 'Nid HT Venom Cannon + Warriors to Carnifex = win.

Oh, and yes, DoW2 is a shallow, shallow game. Biggest disappointment ever.

I hate how the need to flank and out move suppression units has largely been replaced by nearly uncounterable special abilities.

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dow2 is a dumb down version from COH.... nothing more.
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#32 ExplosiveChorro
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Absolutely not.

DoW2 is the biggest let-down since Devil May Cry 2. The game is so shallow and boring to play. The graphics are okay, but that's about it.

This is coming from someone who loved the first DoW.

Aljosa23
I agree. DoW 2 was a big let down. The Multiplayer beta was pretty bad. Didn't like it. it was either you win by a very large margin or you lose by a very large margin. Those rare instances where you win by 50 or below victory points is about 1 in 100. Relic also took out base building... Not happy with that at all. I was really excited about this game, now I'm not sure I'm even getting it day 1 which is tomorrow. Probably going to wait until its $30 or below.
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#33 ExplosiveChorro
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Game is fun, but considering the hype that it was 'the' rts for 2009 it does feel a bit underwhelming. Heroes are fun, however other things feel like a step back from CoH.Nikalai_88
Pretty sure either SC2 or Empire: Total War has had the hype of RTS of the year.
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#34 glez13
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I don't like this game, I prefer CoH. It has a 87 at Metacritic for anyone interested.
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#35 404-not-found
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Judging by the beta, it's already one of the best games this year. People are just bitter that it isn't DoW 1 with better graphics.
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[QUOTE="jeezers"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Bingo! :Dkieranb2000
wats wrong with the beta, i liked it, and loved dark crusade.

To put it simply, the Beta was pretty terrible. It once again proved how pathetic a service Games For Windows Live is, often you will be unable to find matches unless you specifically add someone in your friends list. It's laggy and suffers from lots of other problems like all GFWL games. Then, there was the actual game, which is MAJORLY simplified, the lack of base-building which people originally thought "hey this could be neat if done well" has generally been spurned, as it removes a lot of depth from the game. Most people were under the impression that this meant that there would be more depth added to the actual combat. They were of course wrong. Dark Crusade was good, but I dont see what that has to do with anything.

How is Live the cause of performance lag from people with poor computers and ping lag? And if no one is playing and it cannot find someone to match you with whose fault is that?
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#37 jeezers
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Judging by the beta, it's already one of the best games this year. People are just bitter that it isn't DoW 1 with better graphics.404-not-found
ya thats what the vibe seems to be, i just people give it a chance, the matchmaking got signifficantly better throughout the beta, and alot of bugs were fixed, base building is tedious and borring, i dont know why so many people miss it.
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Died for me when I heard the beta maps were the only maps in the retail game. Seriously? 5 maps!?spinecaton
rofl.."bu bu but teh mods!!" :roll:
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Judging by the beta, it's already one of the best games this year. People are just bitter that it isn't DoW 1 with better graphics.404-not-found

Yes, people are bitter because they expected a deeper game than what they got. I mean, what did they expect? A game where you can branch out with a branching and deep tech tree while having support buildings/structures coming into play? How about a game where half of the units in each faction weren't a complete money sink and waste? Silly them.

Pity, too. The game IS fun, but its so limited that it quickly becomes boring.

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#40 freek666
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It was basically a skin for COH, and I will take Dark Crusade over COH anyday. I will probably end up getting it, but I am quite let down by this game. I loved the base building and larger scaled battles from the first 4 games.
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[QUOTE="jwsoul"]There is a different type of depth in the combat for this DOW, its much more tactical and a lot harder to be good at. Redmoonxl2

No. 'Nid HT Venom Cannon + Warriors to Carnifex = win.

Oh, and yes, DoW2 is a shallow, shallow game. Biggest disappointment ever.

Really? Even after they nerfed the hell out of it? Or were you possibly basing your opinion of the balance off of a beta that was being used for balancing. lol.
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#42 AdrianWerner
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I'm hyped. The retail versiin debuts tomorrow in Poland :) I wasn't interested in it initialy, I thought it would be like DoW1, but it;s completely diffrent, this is the game DoW1 should have been. But I'm a WK40K fan, I guess RTS fan would think diffrently :)
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#43 ocinom
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I believe DoW is one of the greatest RTS in the History of PC gaming .The only DoW game that I've never tried is Soulstorm and can't wait to try DoW2
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#44 goblaa
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As a big fan of the warhammer 40,000 tabletop game, DOW2 to me is a huge step forward. DOW was good and all, but it felt too starcraft-ish. 40K just isn't about base building and resource management, it's about combat and objectives. The new direction DOW has taken feels so much more true to warhammer 40,000.
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The graphics are definitely not on Halo War's level but I might check it out.nVidiaGaMer

sig worthy......

You are right though, DoW2 is many levels higher than HW. If you think otherwise you really need an eye test.

To all the other moaning hermits here, its people like you that are keeping PC gameing in the stoneage, I for one applaud Relic for trying something different rather than making DoW with better graphics.

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#46 mo0ksi
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[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]The graphics are definitely not on Halo War's level but I might check it out.Frozzik

sig worthy......

You are right though, DoW2 is many levels higher than HW. If you think otherwise you really need an eye test.

To all the other moaning hermits here, its people like you that are keeping PC gameing in the stoneage, I for one applaud Relic for trying something different rather than making DoW with better graphics.

Hey now, I'm not moaning. I knew the direction Relic was taking before I played the beta. I just wasn't impressed is all. Understand that just cause hermits might not like a certain exclusive doesn't mean anything other than the fact that your opinion differs from theirs. Besides, I think Relic is better than this.
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#47 Frozzik
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[QUOTE="Frozzik"]

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]The graphics are definitely not on Halo War's level but I might check it out.mo0ksi

sig worthy......

You are right though, DoW2 is many levels higher than HW. If you think otherwise you really need an eye test.

To all the other moaning hermits here, its people like you that are keeping PC gameing in the stoneage, I for one applaud Relic for trying something different rather than making DoW with better graphics.

Hey now, I'm not moaning. I knew the direction Relic was taking before I played the beta. I just wasn't impressed is all. Understand that just cause hermits might not like a certain exclusive doesn't mean anything other than the fact that your opinion differs from theirs. Besides, I think Relic is better than this.

I still think relic deserve more respect. Many love the new DoW. Especially fans of the WH40k tabletop game. From what i read this is part of Relic's strategy with DoW2, to get closer to WH40k battles in the TB game. Maybe GW even had a hand in the design of DoW2.

More Devs need to give old and tired PC genres a kick up the backside imo.

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Games for the games god!
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#49 redbaron3
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i just hope that Relic starts patching in new maps quick, i found most of the beta maps lacking (only maps i liked where the 1v1 desert map, the 3v3 desert map, and the 3v3 cityscape map) a map editor would be a wonderful addition to the game and i hope they release one ASAP!
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#50 Frozzik
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honestly, if this game was on consoles it would be hyped to the heavens. Just look at HW.

Fact is the PC community is so fussy and picky and hard to please its no wonder devs go console. Just look at the hassle blizz is getting with Diablo. Its stupid.