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#101 RyuRanVII
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I don't need to care about Bioware's popamole RPGs anymore. :D

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#102 dracolich55
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[QUOTE="dracolich55"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

and i don't see any reason why it couldn't work with dragon age.

CaseyWegner

It was OK, but BG was meant to be a SP game and co-op would be a waste of resources.

i can see it easily working both ways as it has before. what's the real difference?

Nothing, its just DA like BG is more of a SP game and I think it would be a waste of resources, like games like Uncharted have completely uncessary MP, when their are games with much better MP out their. Around the time BG came out is co-op was ok, but Diablo 2's co-op was MUCH better.
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#103 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="dracolich55"] It was OK, but BG was meant to be a SP game and co-op would be a waste of resources. dracolich55

i can see it easily working both ways as it has before. what's the real difference?

Nothing, its just DA like BG is more of a SP game and I think it would be a waste of resources, like games like Uncharted have completely uncessary MP, when their are games with much better MP out their. Around the time BG came out is co-op was ok, but Diablo 2's co-op was MUCH better.

well, considering that the bg games are strongly based on dungeons and dragons, it would have been criminal to have them be single player only. kotor was also a d&d based game but it was set in a non-d&d universe. i can still totally see the da games working with co-op though.

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#104 Moriarity_
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I've pretty much written off bioware/EA so unless I hear universal praise for DA3 I won't bother. It might not be fair but after 3 bad games in a row(ME2 was ok but I didn't like the cutting of rpg elements) I've had enough of giving bio/EA the benefit of the doubt.
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#105 deactivated-660c2894dc19c
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I'm getting to wonder what the next setting will be. I'm hoping either for Orlais, or the Qunari homeland. The Qunari are the most complex nationality that we've seen of this world and would love to see more of them. And of course the Grey wardens should figure more prominently into this game.

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Mike Laidlaw said during PAX East: "Let's go somewhere new. Maybe somewhere a little more... French." So, Orlais it is.

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#106 GOGOGOGURT
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Dragon age games have everything i hate. High fantasy setting with magic and dragons and some other blah blah blah. however i think it will be like dragon age 2.SNIPER4321

You hate everything. And everything hates you.

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#107 Doolz2024
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Hopefully they'll redeem themselves.... only time will tell.Desmonic
EA - "No more single player only games".

I don't think so. This game will be dumbed down, casual trash.

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#108 Big_Pecks
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What's with the stupid sub-title?

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#110 wis3boi
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What's with the stupid sub-title?

Big_Pecks

EA will have their own inquisitors to hunt down and murder anyone bad mouthing the game or scoring it lower than a 9

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#111 Kickinurass
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[QUOTE="dracolich55"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

i can see it easily working both ways as it has before. what's the real difference?

CaseyWegner

Nothing, its just DA like BG is more of a SP game and I think it would be a waste of resources, like games like Uncharted have completely uncessary MP, when their are games with much better MP out their. Around the time BG came out is co-op was ok, but Diablo 2's co-op was MUCH better.

well, considering that the bg games are strongly based on dungeons and dragons, it would have been criminal to have them be single player only. kotor was also a d&d based game but it was set in a non-d&d universe. i can still totally see the da games working with co-op though.

I have to agree. DAO begged for co-op. It had the nagging sensation of being a single-player MMO where the player controlled the entire group.

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#112 dracolich55
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[QUOTE="dracolich55"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

i can see it easily working both ways as it has before. what's the real difference?

CaseyWegner

Nothing, its just DA like BG is more of a SP game and I think it would be a waste of resources, like games like Uncharted have completely uncessary MP, when their are games with much better MP out their. Around the time BG came out is co-op was ok, but Diablo 2's co-op was MUCH better.

well, considering that the bg games are strongly based on dungeons and dragons, it would have been criminal to have them be single player only. kotor was also a d&d based game but it was set in a non-d&d universe. i can still totally see the da games working with co-op though.

Sorry but I can't.... because the whole idea of DA gameplay was you managing this party, setting tactics etc. Telling them what to do and all that jazz. I dunno, I can't really see that working with co-op because you will only have control of yourself.
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#113 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

It's not as much Bioware that must redeem (though they did make their mistakes) but EA that must learn from their mistakes in how they interfere with Biowares creative and development process. Namely DON'T RUSH THEM.

CanYouDiglt

This right here. Sadly though EA does not seem like a company that will change.

One would think the lackluster reviews resulting in a rapid decline in price for DA2 would have sent a message to EA ;)

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#114 freedomfreak  Online
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A 3rd one already?

where is Mass Efffect 4? no one care about Dragon Age just give us another Mass Effect

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There's a pretty awesome Mass Effect game you haven't played, it's called Mass Effect,

God, I want to replay it now.
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#115 dreamdude
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I remember how hyped I was for Dragon Age 2. Can't seem to even muster up interest for this one though.

Hopefully I'm in for a surprise.

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#116 Blabadon
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[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

A 3rd one already?

where is Mass Efffect 4? no one care about Dragon Age just give us another Mass Effect

freedomfreak
There's a pretty awesome Mass Effect game you haven't played, it's called Mass Effect,

God, I want to replay it now.

We'll make a PUSH thread, Blab and FF's ME1 Playthrough!
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Dragon age games have everything i hate. High fantasy setting with magic and dragons and some other blah blah blah. however i think it will be like dragon age 2.SNIPER4321

Translation: No gunz!!!

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[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="Blabadon"] There's a pretty awesome Mass Effect game you haven't played, it's called Mass Effect,

God, I want to replay it now.

We'll make a PUSH thread, Blab and FF's ME1 Playthrough!

Word. But not now :( It's almost 4am and I'm about to pass out.
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#119 HaloPimp978
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DA2 was garbage IMO so I'm not even going to get my hopes for this to be a good game.

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#120 Sphire
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I want to feel positive about the game, and overall I probably am, but what with story elements contained in DLCs I never played, it might get a bit annoying. I mean, who knows how they'll treat the Warden from Origins and Morrigan. As for Hawke, well, I wouldn't mind the character returning, just don't bring a lot of baggage with her. I liked DA:O a lot, and DA2 less (although overall I'd say I still liked it). Both have flaws, with DA2 being a lot more detrimental to the experience, but I think that stuff can be easily overcome really. Stuff like choices that matter and armor/equipment for companions are pretty straight forward, with only time being a constraint. Recycled areas too. Hoping for a great return to the DA world. Being that it'll likely have a heavy part in Orlais, I don't think I could stop myself should Leliana have a major role.
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#121 LoG-Sacrament
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some of the stuff in the videos was promising. hopefully they follow through on integrating more of the lore into the gameplay. like laidlaw saying that hes thinking of limiting the player to choosing just one specialization but having that choice change how the world reacts to the player character seems good if done right. choosing blood magic was barely even an afterthought before and its one of the biggest taboos in the game world. the feedback for choosing magic in general was diminished in DAII despite magic playing a bigger role than ever in the story. friendly fire AoE attacks would have done more to hammer home the dangers of magic.

some of the other stuff wasnt as promising, but i worry more about the general sense that bioware isnt even making enough design decisions on their own games anymore. theres EA forcing superfluous features (and possibly rushing the game out the door, which i suppose doesnt do much for polish) and bioware's recent history of changing major parts of (what used to be) their game because people complained. i mean bioware isnt this infallible developer than can do no wrong or anything, but id rather play an imperfect yet genuine game than some polished crowd sourced product.

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#122 musalala
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not touching that with a 300 mile long pole

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What's the story? Ancient hobos beneath the earth coming for some random reason to destroy humanity and you need to drink their blood to kill millions of them? fk this sh!t. DA has a pathetic story just like Gears.silversix_

"Ancient Hobos":lol::lol:

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#123 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="dracolich55"] Nothing, its just DA like BG is more of a SP game and I think it would be a waste of resources, like games like Uncharted have completely uncessary MP, when their are games with much better MP out their. Around the time BG came out is co-op was ok, but Diablo 2's co-op was MUCH better.dracolich55

well, considering that the bg games are strongly based on dungeons and dragons, it would have been criminal to have them be single player only. kotor was also a d&d based game but it was set in a non-d&d universe. i can still totally see the da games working with co-op though.

Sorry but I can't.... because the whole idea of DA gameplay was you managing this party, setting tactics etc. Telling them what to do and all that jazz. I dunno, I can't really see that working with co-op because you will only have control of yourself.

still sounds kind of like baldur's gate.

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#124 svaubel
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DA2 was a huge mess. Skipping this without even a backward glance. EA has Bioware by the neck and balls, so I dont expect anything good to come from them anymore

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#125 lundy86_4
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More Dragon Age: Origins... Please :cry:

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#126 lundy86_4
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DA2 was a huge mess. Skipping this without even a backward glance. EA has Bioware by the neck and balls, so I dont expect anything good to come from them anymore

svaubel

It was. The game was still relatively fun, but a massive step down from DA:O.

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#127 svenus97
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What's with the stupid sub-title?

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It's about an inquisition.
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#128 dracolich55
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[QUOTE="dracolich55"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

well, considering that the bg games are strongly based on dungeons and dragons, it would have been criminal to have them be single player only. kotor was also a d&d based game but it was set in a non-d&d universe. i can still totally see the da games working with co-op though.

CaseyWegner

Sorry but I can't.... because the whole idea of DA gameplay was you managing this party, setting tactics etc. Telling them what to do and all that jazz. I dunno, I can't really see that working with co-op because you will only have control of yourself.

still sounds kind of like baldur's gate.

BG2's co-op wasn't exactly top tier, so why would you want resources to be wasted on an inferior co-op mode?
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#129 lawlessx
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make it like DA:O? people people..bioware is trying to get the COD crowd of gamers...can't do that with slow tactical gameplay
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#130 lundy86_4
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make it like DA:O? people people..bioware is trying to get the COD crowd of gamers...can't do that with slow tactical gameplay lawlessx

It hurts, but I agree. DAII did some things right, but sacrificing the actual RPG elements of DA:O, was not one of them :(

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#131 Magescrew
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I'll wait for the user reviews. Not gonna fork out $60 for DA3 when I could just wait for it to be on sale for $20 three months later (like DA2...)
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#132 lundy86_4
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I'll wait for the user reviews. Not gonna fork out $60 for DA3 when I could just wait for it to be on sale for $20 three months later (like DA2...)Magescrew

Solid tactic. I don't buy any games at full price any more, barring a few (Sleeping Dogs).

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#133 lordreaven
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More Dragon Age: Origins... Please :cry:

lundy86_4
Not going to happen http://www.gamespot.com/news/next-dragon-age-taking-cues-from-skyrim-6347939
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#134 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

More Dragon Age: Origins... Please :cry:

lordreaven

Not going to happen http://www.gamespot.com/news/next-dragon-age-taking-cues-from-skyrim-6347939

I figured.... Ewww...

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#135 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]make it like DA:O? people people..bioware is trying to get the COD crowd of gamers...can't do that with slow tactical gameplay lundy86_4

It hurts, but I agree. DAII did some things right, but sacrificing the actual RPG elements of DA:O, was not one of them :(

maybe 10 years from now (by then bioware will be shut down) some old school bioware developer will kickstart a true successor to DA:O :(

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#136 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]make it like DA:O? people people..bioware is trying to get the COD crowd of gamers...can't do that with slow tactical gameplay lawlessx

It hurts, but I agree. DAII did some things right, but sacrificing the actual RPG elements of DA:O, was not one of them :(

maybe 10 years from now (by then bioware will be shut down) some old school bioware developer will kickstart a true successor to DA:O :(

Our only hope :cry:

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#137 lordreaven
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[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

More Dragon Age: Origins... Please :cry:

lundy86_4

Not going to happen http://www.gamespot.com/news/next-dragon-age-taking-cues-from-skyrim-6347939

I figured.... Ewww...

EA only know's how to copy. Why do you think BF is basically CoD with tanks, or SWTOR is WoW, or Origin is Steam, or Rock Band being Guitar Hero. EA copies what makes money. Skyrim made a truck load of money (10 million units of Skyrim shipped in one month) while ME 3 only sold 2 million in the first month. EA is now going to make what ever it can to take Skyrim's money. First it will be DA, followed by other games.
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#138 Zero5000X
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I don't really want multiplayer in an RPG regardless of whether or not it's good. The way I look at it is that any time and resources allocated to the multiplayer could just be used to further improve the single player.
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#139 svenus97
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make it like DA:O? people people..bioware is trying to get the COD crowd of gamers...can't do that with slow tactical gameplay lawlessx
Yes, because DA:O was tactical.
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#140 Sagem28
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[QUOTE="SteverXIII"][QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

Its going to have multiplayer, which is going to make it the worst of the series.

crimsonman1245

Are you serious?

EA's CEO said a few months ago that he is PROUD that he will not greenlight a single player only game.

For fvcks sake EA...

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#141 Pvt_r3d
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It'll be interesting to see what they do with the Frostbyte engine. Maybe they'll evolve the common RPG formula that Bioware always uses with each and every game.
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#142 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="dracolich55"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="dracolich55"] But remember, Orgins was also published by EA- and it was really good.

Yes, but they were largely done with it by the time EA came in. There weren't many ways they could ruin it at that point. Now compare that to the later Mass Effect games and Dragon Age II. There's a definite trend here.

I guess.... but really, I don't really think ME is the greatest thing since sliced bread like texasgoldrush and Adobe, but you can'y deny its a good series of games. You may not like em, but that doesn't mean their bad. DA2 was honestly their only "bad" game and even then I enjoyed it, still a solid 7.5-8 in my book.

I'm not saying the games are bad. I'm saying that they've gotten worse since EA bought Bioware.
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#143 dracolich55
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="dracolich55"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Yes, but they were largely done with it by the time EA came in. There weren't many ways they could ruin it at that point. Now compare that to the later Mass Effect games and Dragon Age II. There's a definite trend here.

I guess.... but really, I don't really think ME is the greatest thing since sliced bread like texasgoldrush and Adobe, but you can'y deny its a good series of games. You may not like em, but that doesn't mean their bad. DA2 was honestly their only "bad" game and even then I enjoyed it, still a solid 7.5-8 in my book.

I'm not saying the games are bad. I'm saying that they've gotten worse since EA bought Bioware.

That's opinion, I agree though that the ME games and DA2 are inferior to past Bioware games, though some people here think ME is the greatest franchise ever.
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#144 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="dracolich55"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="dracolich55"] I guess.... but really, I don't really think ME is the greatest thing since sliced bread like texasgoldrush and Adobe, but you can'y deny its a good series of games. You may not like em, but that doesn't mean their bad. DA2 was honestly their only "bad" game and even then I enjoyed it, still a solid 7.5-8 in my book.

I'm not saying the games are bad. I'm saying that they've gotten worse since EA bought Bioware.

That's opinion, I agree though that the ME games and DA2 are inferior to past Bioware games, though some people here think ME is the greatest franchise ever.

I don't understand those people. I really, really don't. It's not even the best sci-fi series in gaming, from an objective standpoint.
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#145 SciFiRPGfan
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From said blog:

I am pleased to confirm that we are, in fact, working on the next Dragon Age game. Not a big surprise to most of you, I know. We have been working on it in some way for about two years now with the bulk of our efforts ramping up about 18 months ago.



Right now, it's nearly the end of Q3 2012 and if the game will indeed be released in late 2013, then the development cycle could really approach or even exceed 3 years.

Could Bioware really be returning to longer development cycles? :o

Well, it could be just a new engine or it may only apply to Dragon Age (about which I don't care actually). But the idea, that maybe... maybe Bio could work on a next Mass Effect title or new IP for more than 2 years (+ month or two, bleh)... :shock:

Damn, I am almost excited :P (last time I was actually excited about something Bio related was when ME3 was delayed, but in the end, it obviously wasn't enough). Well, we will see.

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#146 dracolich55
Member since 2010 • 2343 Posts
[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="dracolich55"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I'm not saying the games are bad. I'm saying that they've gotten worse since EA bought Bioware.

That's opinion, I agree though that the ME games and DA2 are inferior to past Bioware games, though some people here think ME is the greatest franchise ever.

I don't understand those people. I really, really don't. It's not even the best sci-fi series in gaming, from an objective standpoint.

Agreed, I really don't like ME as much as the fanboys do, to me its more of a "great series of games" but nothing revolutionary. And forgot best sci-fi series, not ONE ME game is the best sci-fi game from Bioware :P
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#147 texasgoldrush
Member since 2003 • 15252 Posts

[QUOTE="milannoir"]

A few years ago, news like this would have got me thrilled. But Bioware has been so disappointing of late that I just don't care anymore.

Magescrew

Ditto. I still cry at night thanks to ME3's ending. Don't even have the motivation to buy Leviathan despite it looking very interesting. **** you Bioware for leaving important story elements out of the main game.

Leviathan is nice, but the Extended Cut is enough. Sorry, but the fixed ME3 ending works...it just that it also requires fans to actually think.
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#148 texasgoldrush
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From said blog:

I am pleased to confirm that we are, in fact, working on the next Dragon Age game. Not a big surprise to most of you, I know. We have been working on it in some way for about two years now with the bulk of our efforts ramping up about 18 months ago.SciFiRPGfan



Right now, it's nearly the end of Q3 2012 and if the game will indeed be released in late 2013, then the development cycle could really approach or even exceed 3 years.

Could Bioware really be returning to longer development cycles? :o

Well, it could be just a new engine or it may only apply to Dragon Age (about which I don't care actually). But the idea, that maybe... maybe Bio could work on a next Mass Effect title or new IP for more than 2 years (+ month or two, bleh)... :shock:

Damn, I am almost excited :P (last time I was actually excited about something Bio related was when ME3 was delayed, but in the end, it obviously wasn't enough). Well, we will see.

The main problems for DA2 was not the direction of the story, which on paper was a great idea that was never really told before in a RPG (how a person was not soley responsible for a crisis, but it was human nature as a whole), but the fact that it was rushed out the door. But it does look like DAIII will get a much bigger development cycle and a far better engine. Also, the story is not going to be a generic DAO rehash of defeating ancient evils, or orcs on parade. Its about saving the world from itself, and you play basically a diplomat trying to bring Thedas out of civil war. Also the choices Hawke makes will have an impact on DAIII, so do play DAII if you haven't for DAIII. However, the dialogue wheel and the voiced protagonist from DA2 (not Hawke as lead though) will return, and from what I heard, the DA2 friendship rivalry system will return as well. I have also heard 10 party members and from one of the leaks, seen Knight Captain Cullen from BOTH DA games as a party member.
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#149 texasgoldrush
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http://www.joystiq.com/2011/08/21/muzyka-bioware-to-throw-previous-dragon-age-games-into-a-blende/ DAIII will take elements from BOTH Dragon Age Origins AND Dragon Age II.
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#150 musalala
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http://www.joystiq.com/2011/08/21/muzyka-bioware-to-throw-previous-dragon-age-games-into-a-blende/ DAIII will take elements from BOTH Dragon Age Origins AND Dragon Age II.texasgoldrush

I"m sorry given EA/Biowares past history of blatantly misrepresenting the facts I higly doubt this is even remotly true, we will get Dragon age 2.0 with forced PVp multiplayer and DLC stripped from the game , not to mention that Dr Muzkya is no longer working at bioware so whatever he says should be talken with a grain of salt.