Dreamcast > Ps2

The reality is that the Dreamcast had better games, and a unique memory card, but it was cut short due to the DVD revolution and the Ps2 had a DVD player so that's why Sega discontinued it. Sony is losing more money than Sega ever did with the Ps3, and the only reason they haven't discontinued it, is because of the frikin Ps2threegirlz

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[QUOTE="treedoor"]

SNES > Dreamcast = N64 > everything else.

So yah, Dreamcast > PS2

boredy-Mcbored

Sorry but no.

PS1 & PS2 both outsold Dreamcast & N64, mate. :P

Bu Bu sales don't matter. ;)

Oh, but it does matter when it comes to the PS3 vs 360 or PS3 vs Wii :lol: :lol:

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hmm, yes well i must have this "experience", I DEMAND IT!!!

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Not really. A few good titles aren't enough to even compare it to the huge variety and quality of PS2 titles.

Oh and some of those titles even got ported over to the PS2 : O Do you like ignoring that fact?

dragonfly110

which ones got ported to PS2?

I know that Sonic adventures 1&2 were ported to gamecube and JSR got a sequel on the Xbox, I never knew of anything ported to PS2 though

Code Veronica was ported to the PS2.

The fact that the PS2 is still alive and that the dreamcast died 8 years ago kind of ruins your argument.

The fact that the PS2 is still alive and that the dreamcast died 8 years ago kind of ruins your argument.

Burning-Sludge

Of course.

The fact that they still argue about it is because they can't sleep at night knowing the PlayStation 2 is the very best console of all time.

[QUOTE="idontbeliveit"][QUOTE="tmacscores91"] hmmm, we must obtain this "reality", hand it over, THIS I COMMANDtmacscores91

hmm, yes well i must have this "experience", I DEMAND IT!!!

which ones got ported to PS2?

I know that Sonic adventures 1&2 were ported to gamecube and JSR got a sequel on the Xbox, I never knew of anything ported to PS2 though

dragonfly110

Code Veronica, Ready 2 Rumble, Street Fighter III.

I totally agree the DC was such an amazing console, it's honestly just sad to see it die like that. It had the potential too survive and beat the PS2.Crossel777

actually, its entirely indisputable that it did not have potential to beat the ps2. because it didnt beat the ps2. the ps2 suplexed the dc through a flaming table covered in barbed wire so hard that sega, as a company, blacked out and woke up in hell.

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I totally agree the DC was such an amazing console, it's honestly just sad to see it die like that. It had the potential too survive and beat the PS2.CaptainHarley

actually, its entirely indisputable that it did not have potential to beat the ps2. because it didnt beat the ps2. the ps2 suplexed the dc through a flaming table covered in barbed wire so hard that sega, as a company, blacked out and woke up in hell.

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I totally agree the DC was such an amazing console, it's honestly just sad to see it die like that. It had the potential too survive and beat the PS2.threegirlz

actually, its entirely indisputable that it did not have potential to beat the ps2. because it didnt beat the ps2. the ps2 suplexed the dc through a flaming table covered in barbed wire so hard that sega, as a company, blacked out and woke up in hell.

Refer to my other post ;)

what was wrong with the dvd player? the fact that it was a really nice integration of a new, accessable and successful technology for a reasonable price? i dont see how that has any kind of negative edge against the ps2. it was one of its best features.

Dreamcast AND PS2 >>>>>> Gamecube/Xbox

gameofthering

I know I'm in the minority, but I disagree. I really was not a JRPG fan, so I honestly enjoyed the 1 2 punch of Halo, Halo2, Fable, Conkers Bad Fur Day, Brute Force, Morrowind, Armed and Dangerous, KotOR 1 and 2, Super Mario Sunshine, Luigis Mansion, Smash Bros, Mario Kart Double Dash, Eternal Darkness, Pikmin 1 and 2, Resident Evil 4, Legend of Zelda Wind Waker, Metroid Prime 1 and 2, Animal Crossing, Paper Mario, Star Fox Adventures, Star Wars Rouge Squadron 2 and 3, and probably many I'm forgetting, than the Dreamcast and PS2 library. Yes, I love God of War and Ratchet, but that's about the only playtime my PS2 got last gen besides Madden and Extermination in my younger days.

1 - Powerstone 2 2 - RE: Code Veronica 3 - Sonic Adventure 1 4 - Evolution 5 - Phantasy Star Online 6 - Capcom Vs SNK 7 - Ready 2 Rumble 8 - Skies of Arcadia 9 - Street Fighter III: Third Strike 10 - NFL 2k This is why the Dreamcast is better than the Ps2. I wanna see what Ps2 games you guys come up with to go against these games. Can't wait to laugh. And Dreamcast ports don't count.threegirlz

How does CV make the Dreamcast better than the PS2 when it's ON the PS2? Dreamcast ports disqualify your efforts. Anyways.

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You are correct Dreamcast> PS2 that is why the PS2 failed and sony became a third party dev....OH WAIT!

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[QUOTE="treedoor"]

SNES > Dreamcast = N64 > everything else.

So yah, Dreamcast > PS2

boredy-Mcbored

Sorry but no.

PS1 & PS2 both outsold Dreamcast & N64, mate. :P

Bu Bu sales don't matter. ;)

They had better libraries as well.

I respectfully disagree with you, I think the PS2 is far superior because of its amazingly big and fantastic library.

The Dreamcast is a Failure console.

The PS2 is KING!

;)

I'll always favor Dreamcast over the PS2, but anybody with common sense knows the PS2 did better.

silly man.. no way drmcast is better than ps2... joke post?

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

SNES > Dreamcast = N64 > everything else.

So yah, Dreamcast > PS2

tonitorsi

Sorry but no.

PS1 & PS2 both outsold Dreamcast & N64, mate. :P

We're talking about sales now?

Well.......the Wii is the fastest selling console of all time, so that puts it above everything I guess.

Why does it matter? At the end of the day, there remains the fact that the Dreamcast ran short on cash and fizzled out. Had Sega had enough money to support it and developed another console that competed with the PS2, Xbox, and Gamecube, that system would have mattered.

the one thing I will give to the dreamcast (and the xbox) is that they both managed to accomplish making 2 games so great that the PS2 couldnt even hope to equel them in quality. I think you know by my avi and sig what those 2 games were :P

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140 million people disagree with you

aaronmullan

[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

SNES > Dreamcast = N64 > everything else.

So yah, Dreamcast > PS2

treedoor

Sorry but no.

PS1 & PS2 both outsold Dreamcast & N64, mate. :P

We're talking about sales now?

Well.......the Wii is the fastest selling console of all time, so that puts it above everything I guess.

Fastest selling =/= top. For all we know, Wii sales can plateau in a year or so. PS2 has the sales now, while Wii might have it in the future. Therefore, PS2 > PS > DS > Wii > everything else.

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140 million people disagree with you

thelastguy

that list is fail with out jet grind radio and shenmue 1 & 2

:? dreamcast better than ps2? no way bro....besides the dreamcast was competing agasint PlayStation 1 and n64 at the time...so their games do not compare....ReaperV7

I like the argument about PS2 winning because of DVD. Well guess what? DVD brought better games as well.

if dreamcast stayed alive it probably would have been cause i mean

man it was so amazing those first 2 years

Shenmue 1 and 2, are like my favorite games ever, others i absolutely loved are ikaruga, IMO the best resident evil code veronica, a bunch of perfect arcade ports, Some of the most inovative and awesome games like The Typing of the dead, samba de amigo, space channel 5, And probably my favorite rpg ever Skies of arcadia, idk i just loved the thing, i never really got into many ps2 games besides silent hill and, spiderman 2 lol

140 million people disagree with you

[QUOTE="ReaperV7"]:? dreamcast better than ps2? no way bro....besides the dreamcast was competing agasint PlayStation 1 and n64 at the time...so their games do not compare....slvrraven9

The Dreamcast AND the Saturn were in competetion with the N64 and PS1 at one point, sharing a few multiplats even, because the Dreamcast was released prematurely (as well as the Saturn ending prematurely).

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140 million people disagree with you

jessesalinas

And piracy, failures (32X, SEGA CD, Gamegear), the failure of the Saturn in the western market, closing the Saturn prematurely when devs were in the midst of working on projects for the Saturn, and Japan. Even the kids who starred in the Dreamcast's commercials wanted a PS2. What's more, not only was the PS2 more powerful than the Dreamcast, but the PS1's strong Japanese support continued on to the PS2. It's funny how Code Veronica is mentioned in this thread, because as soon as the PS2 was released it was ported as CVX or CV Kanzenban (the latter being a multiplat in Japan).

The Dreamcast may have had an amazing library for the brief time that it existed on the market and I would have like to have seen it last longer, but in the end I think it was SEGA's own bad decisions that shut down the Dreamcast. If they would have waited, and continued to support the Saturn they wouldn't have had two Saturns, being that the Dreamcast was the reverse of the sales pattern of the Saturn. I'd still like to see SEGA make another console and push Microsoft out of the race.

[QUOTE="slvrraven9"][QUOTE="ReaperV7"]:? dreamcast better than ps2? no way bro....besides the dreamcast was competing agasint PlayStation 1 and n64 at the time...so their games do not compare....hakanakumono

The Dreamcast AND the Saturn were in competetion with the N64 and PS1 at one point, sharing a few multiplats even, because the Dreamcast was released prematurely (as well as the Saturn ending prematurely).

Dreamcast = FAIL

Playstation 2 = WIN

PS2 >>> Dreamcast

:)

Power Stone 2 is the best game I have ever played to this day, standing next side a few others.

I love my Dreamcast. Wish it lasted longer. I also love my PS2. It's a hard choice. But, with the larger game selection, DVD player, and etc. the PS2 clearly was the favorite.

The Dreamcast is that one system with so much injustice done to it. Sega was violated and punished for doing good. It's unjust I tell you. God I miss Dreamcast days

Power Stone 2 is the best game I have ever played to this day, standing next side a few others.

I love my Dreamcast. Wish it lasted longer. I also love my PS2. It's a hard choice. But, with the larger game selection, DVD player, and etc. the PS2 clearly was the favorite.

The Dreamcast is that one system with so much injustice done to it. Sega was violated and punished for doing good. It's unjust I tell you. God I miss Dreamcast days

Alpha-Male22

Srsly.

Sega screams it's love to every gamer in the world, and everyone turns their back. :(

Dreamcast = FAIL

Playstation 2 = WIN

PS2 >>> Dreamcast

:)

jakehouston88

Finally people on Gamespot have actually played Powerstone, it's a miracle.

Ps2 fanboys have no idea how good it is, and it saddens me too.

threegirlz

Finally, other people on Gamespot know how good Powerstone is, it's a miracle.

Ps2 fanboys have no idea what they're missing.

The Dreamcast was a great system for the short time it was out. The main reason that it's not better than the PS2 is that it was alive for a short time.

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Dreamcast AND PS2 >>>>>> Gamecube/Xbox

Cicatraz_ESP

I know I'm in the minority, but I disagree. I really was not a JRPG fan, so I honestly enjoyed the 1 2 punch of Halo, Halo2, Fable, Conkers Bad Fur Day, Brute Force, Morrowind, Armed and Dangerous, KotOR 1 and 2, Super Mario Sunshine, Luigis Mansion, Smash Bros, Mario Kart Double Dash, Eternal Darkness, Pikmin 1 and 2, Resident Evil 4, Legend of Zelda Wind Waker, Metroid Prime 1 and 2, Animal Crossing, Paper Mario, Star Fox Adventures, Star Wars Rouge Squadron 2 and 3, and probably many I'm forgetting, than the Dreamcast and PS2 library. Yes, I love God of War and Ratchet, but that's about the only playtime my PS2 got last gen besides Madden and Extermination in my younger days.

Here is an accurate depiction of what Sony unfortunately did to Sega:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI-VY5cC2jk

[QUOTE="threegirlz"]

Finally people on Gamespot have actually played Powerstone, it's a miracle.

Ps2 fanboys have no idea how good it is, and it saddens me too.

Alpha-Male22

1. Shadow of the Colossus

2. God of War

3. Okami (Wii ports don't count because the Dreamcast was long dead by then)

4. Persona 4

5. Twisted Metal: Black

6. Resident Evil 4

7. Dark Cloud 2

8. Tekken 5

9. Prince of Persia series

10. Katamari Damacy

I love the Dreamcast btw, maybe even more than the PS2.