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#1  Edited By Shewgenja
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Paul Rustchynsky 30 April, 2014 @ 4:22 pm 1.6

We want to push the boundaries on PS4 with the visual detail in DRIVECLUB, so we’ve now locked the game to a rock solid 30fps. Doing so means that we don’t compromise on the staggering native 1080p visual quality or the seamlessly networked connectivity while you race.

We’ve got a lot of experience at Evolution Studios and members of the team who worked on Gran Turismo, WRC, Grid, F1, MotorStorm, Project Gotham and more have all contributed to the handling dynamics. We’re confident that it gives everybody a fluid and authentic driving experience that is accessible for beginners, yet deep enough to satisfy even the most track-hardened racers.

Just like PGR games like I've been saying from the beginning

You may now commence crying how it doesn't run like a racer with no weather and cardboard cutouts from a PS2 era game. Also, be sure to call me a damage controlling cow calling PGR a great racing game series. Let me know how that works out for you.

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#2  Edited By freedomfreak
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Not surprised it's that pretty then.

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#3 Heil68
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I'm happy with that and I'm getting the game day fucking 1. :D

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#5  Edited By B4X
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30 FPS /pfft

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#6 Joedgabe
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Casual game confirmed :P

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Have fun with that cinematic racing experience haha

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#8 R3FURBISHED
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where is that quote from?

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A racing game with 30FPS? Lol

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#10  Edited By freedomfreak
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30FPS for this game isn't bad. It's not a sim.

30FPS didn't stop PGR from being an absolutely brilliant racing game.

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#11  Edited By Wasdie  Moderator
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That's what I suspected. Oh well.

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#12  Edited By Shewgenja
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@R3FURBISHED said:

where is that quote from?

It was a response from one of the DriveClub team to the question about framerate in the comments.

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#13  Edited By chikenfriedrice
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@freedomfreak said:

30FPS for this game isn't bad. It's not a sim.

30FPS didn't stop PGR from being an absolutely brilliant racing game.

Yes on the 360....this is the PS4 where 1080P/60fps is the standard ( before it wasn't anymore )

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@freedomfreak said:

30FPS for this game isn't bad. It's not a sim.

30FPS didn't stop PGR from being an absolutely brilliant racing game.

Truly. PGR was one of the reasons I bought the OG XBox.

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#15  Edited By speedfreak48t5p
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PS4: It only does 30FPS.

lolz

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@freedomfreak said:

30FPS for this game isn't bad. It's not a sim.

30FPS didn't stop PGR from being an absolutely brilliant racing game.

Indeed. With SONY pushing the envelope at EVERY turn it's a marvel of modern day gaming we get the games that we do.

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#17  Edited By NFJSupreme
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No surprise here

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@chikenfriedrice said:

@freedomfreak said:

30FPS for this game isn't bad. It's not a sim.

30FPS didn't stop PGR from being an absolutely brilliant racing game.

Yes on the 360....this is the PS4 where 1080P/60fps is the standard ( before it wasn't anymore )

60fps has never been the standard on consoles. I don't give a shit what console fanboys claim. It's not the standard on the consoles nor is it necessary for controller input for a console. Never has.

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#20  Edited By B4X
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Drop the DAMN p's Sony and get it to 60 fps. For the love of god let the boy have 60 fps!

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#21  Edited By freedomfreak
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@chikenfriedrice said:

Yes on the 360....this is the PS4 where 1080P/60fps is the standard ( before it wasn't anymore )

1080P/60FPS is not really the standard for Ps4 though. For me, it doesn't matter too much. At the very worst, I see this as them not being able to hit 60, despite a full-year delay. But then again, I don't know why it was delayed in the first place. Obviously some things weren't done, or needed polish.

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#22 granddogg
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just like clock work it didnt take long for the PR eatting cows to turn and say 30fps for the ps4 is fine..it was 1080/60 now its 1080/30 make up your mind...

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No surprise here

Pretty much. With all of the challenges being set up the way they are, it seemed like it would be a socially interactive PGR-like arcade racer from the start. Which is why I'm hyped to the moon about it lol! Awesome game is going to be awesome, haters are gonna hate :)

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@Heil68 said:

@freedomfreak said:

30FPS for this game isn't bad. It's not a sim.

30FPS didn't stop PGR from being an absolutely brilliant racing game.

Indeed. With SONY pushing the envelope at EVERY turn it's a marvel of modern day gaming we get the games that we do.

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@Wasdie said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

@freedomfreak said:

30FPS for this game isn't bad. It's not a sim.

30FPS didn't stop PGR from being an absolutely brilliant racing game.

Yes on the 360....this is the PS4 where 1080P/60fps is the standard ( before it wasn't anymore )

60fps has never been the standard on consoles. I don't give a shit what console fanboys claim. It's not the standard on the consoles nor is it necessary for controller input for a console. Never has.

Well that is exactly the shit fanboys claim

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#27  Edited By mems_1224
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@Heil68 said:

@freedomfreak said:

30FPS for this game isn't bad. It's not a sim.

30FPS didn't stop PGR from being an absolutely brilliant racing game.

Indeed. With SONY pushing the envelope at EVERY turn it's a marvel of modern day gaming we get the games that we do.

Too bad they're only pushing it at half the speed of Forza :(

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#28  Edited By freedomfreak
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@Desmonic said:

We'll have to wait to find out it that's the case with this game. Right now I'd say it's success is far more dependant on showing it plays great and that it is fun and compelling rather than the 60fps issue.

Yeah, no doubt. But you know just as much as I do what people are gonna be focusing on.

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#32  Edited By Wasdie  Moderator
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@chikenfriedrice said:

Well that is exactly the shit fanboys claim

Then why stoop to their level and even consider the stuff they claim? To any rational thinking person the whole 60fps vs 30fps debate is pretty simple. On the console it's great to have 60fps if you can achieve it but it's not necessary for a good gameplay experience. It's really that simple.

If a game not running at 60fps ruins the entire game for a person, that person needs to reevaluate their values and probably get into PC gaming. Expecting consoles, whose hardware is fixed and ever aging against continual advancements in rendering technology and the ever increasing expectations of gamers, to keep up with 60fps at 1080p is foolish.

It's all about final image quality. If you can make your game meet most people's expectations then the resolution/framerate is irrelevant. Most people don't count pixels or frames, they just care about how good the game looks overall in the end. System Wars and most of the internet is the exception to that and those people should just be gaming on a PC instead of hoping consoles can match their increasing expectations.

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#33 Shewgenja
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I'd be more upset if Gran Turismo runs at 30FPS than an arcade racer like DriveClub. Lemming Desperation Continuation.

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#34  Edited By B4X
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@Wasdie said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

Well that is exactly the shit fanboys claim

Then why stoop to their level and believe the stuff they claim?

Please don't ban me. Do you work for Sony?

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#35 chikenfriedrice
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@Wasdie said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

Well that is exactly the shit fanboys claim

Then why stoop to their level and believe the stuff they claim?

Not stooping, just highlighting the nonsense.

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#36  Edited By Gue1
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@freedomfreak said:
@chikenfriedrice said:

Yes on the 360....this is the PS4 where 1080P/60fps is the standard ( before it wasn't anymore )

1080P/60FPS is not really the standard for Ps4 though. For me, it doesn't matter too much. At the very worst, I see this as them not being able to hit 60, despite a full-year delay. But then again, I don't know why it was delayed in the first place. Obviously some things weren't done, or needed polish.

1 year of polish is overkill. Unless we are talking about an open-world game of-course.

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#37  Edited By freedomfreak
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@Desmonic said:

I know, SW can be bitchy at times :P

With it being a new franchise it's very important for them to make a good impact with the first game. Still kinda sad they decided to go with 30fps. Though SASRT as far as I know is 30fps on everything but the PC version and it's fantastic little kart racer! Enjoyed immensely! :)

Mhm. Not to mention the delay. At least people(with ps+) will be able to try it out. You can play then entire single player campaign in the "trial" version.

It's not all bad, honestly. Motorstorm was "eh", but they did make the WRC games before, and I don't remember them being awful. They're not amateurs, which is cool.

It's just that they made Motorstorm, although Apocalypse was fun.

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#38  Edited By freedomfreak
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@Gue1 said:

1 year to polish is overkill.

Like I said, I don't know if it was just for polish. There are so many factors that can come into play for a game getting delayed. None of which we know of, unless we were on the development team.

Not defending the delay, but if a better game comes out of it, all the better.

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@b4x said:

@Wasdie said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

Well that is exactly the shit fanboys claim

Then why stoop to their level and believe the stuff they claim?

Please don't ban me. Do you work for Sony?

No and please read what I posted ealier...

"Then why stoop to their level and even consider the stuff they claim? To any rational thinking person the whole 60fps vs 30fps debate is pretty simple. On the console it's great to have 60fps if you can achieve it but it's not necessary for a good gameplay experience. It's really that simple.

If a game not running at 60fps ruins the entire game for a person, that person needs to reevaluate their values and probably get into PC gaming. Expecting consoles, whose hardware is fixed and ever aging against continual advancements in rendering technology and the ever increasing expectations of gamers, to keep up with 60fps at 1080p is foolish.

It's all about final image quality. If you can make your game meet most people's expectations then the resolution/framerate is irrelevant. Most people don't count pixels or frames, they just care about how good the game looks overall in the end. System Wars and most of the internet is the exception to that and those people should just be gaming on a PC instead of hoping consoles can match their increasing expectations."

The vast majority of the games I play are on the PC because I don't have unrealistic expectations from the consoles like so many people here do.

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@charizard1605 said:

A racing game with 30FPS? Lol

NFS is 30FPS in fact it was 30 FPS even on PC.

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#42  Edited By Gue1
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@Wasdie said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

Yes on the 360....this is the PS4 where 1080P/60fps is the standard ( before it wasn't anymore )

60fps has never been the standard on consoles. I don't give a shit what console fanboys claim. It's not the standard on the consoles nor is it necessary for controller input for a console. Never has.

then it should just for the sake of reducing judder which is like one of the most annoying effect on HD games.

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#43 Scipio8
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Here is a question for cows, and be honest!

Would you have preferred Drive Club at 900p/60 FPS ?

Personally, there is very very little discernable difference between 1080p and 900p. But 30FPS to 60FPS is a major difference for driving games.

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#44  Edited By mems_1224
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@Scipio8 said:

Here is a question for cows, and be honest!

Would you have preferred Drive Club at 900p/60 FPS ?

Personally, there is very very little discernable difference between 1080p and 900p. But 30FPS to 60FPS is a major difference for driving games.

Framerate>>>>>>>>>>>resolution

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At least it will have in game voice chat.

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@b4x said:

Drop the DAMN p's Sony and get it to 60 fps. For the love of god let the boy have 60 fps!

In a van DOWN BY THE RIVER!!!!!!

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#47  Edited By Wasdie  Moderator
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@Scipio8 said:

Here is a question for cows, and be honest!

Would you have preferred Drive Club at 900p/60 FPS ?

Personally, there is very very little discernable difference between 1080p and 900p. But 30FPS to 60FPS is a major difference for driving games.

I'm not a Sony fanboy but I would prefer a clean 1080p at 30fps picture over 900p at 60fps if the game really doesn't demand 60fps. For Battlefield 4 they just wanted that 60fps bullet point for combating CoD, it wasn't really a requirement for the game as the Battlefield franchise isn't a super high paced shooting game. CoD on the other hand would probably need 60fps to keep the action smooth and any arena shooter that is attempted on the consoles probably needs 60fps.

For racing games I never felt 60fps was necessary. Everybody else seems to believe it is, but I really don't think so. As long as the games inputs aren't slowed down then there is no real controller lag. The only genres I ever think that 60fps is absolutely necessary for are fighting games maybe hack n' slash games where combos are everything. Other than that, 60fps usually is just gravy.

I do believe 60fps is needed for keyboard and mouse input though. Even a steady 30fps is just sluggish on a mouse. With analog sticks it's not nearly a big deal as they aren't nearly as quick or precise.

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@magicalclick said:

I know cow wants to jump around if this is Forza5, except Forza5 delivered at 1080p 60fps last year.

Forza 5 also was bested by gt 6 in a few areas. Also, dem spectators weren't on point, cardboard cutouts dawg? f'real? LOL.

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#49  Edited By GrenadeLauncher
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Hahahaha, lemscum gonna have their little hearts broken very quickly when DC destroys Flopza graphically.

@Scipio8 said:

Here is a question for cows, and be honest!

Would you have preferred Drive Club at 900p/60 FPS ?

Personally, there is very very little discernable difference between 1080p and 900p. But 30FPS to 60FPS is a major difference for driving games.

I'd rather it didn't look like this.

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#50  Edited By Gue1
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more bad news: No Day/Night Cycles

The title of the article it's a bit hyperbolic though, full dev quote:

In another comment, he also confirmed that the game won’t have a dynamic day/night cycle which changes according to the real time on your PlayStation 4. “We tested this because on paper it sounds really cool, but when you actually play at the real time of day for a while you lose a lot of the magic and diversity. We allow you to customize the start time and the time compression (time lapse) in every race you set up, so you have lots of flexibility yourself” he revealed.