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#51 vashkey
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i liked KH, KH2 and KH COM so stop dissing itTnasty11

They are afraid of staying on topic because I tottally owned them so they have to switch to Kingdom Hearts.

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#52 vashkey
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[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="_S0LID_SNAKE_"][QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="NorthlandMan"][QUOTE="vashkey"]

What do you care about my preferences? Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I don't like quality games. Or that you do.

_S0LID_SNAKE_

you call out the greatest handheld ever made on System Wars then you're going to get your ass handed to you. Anyone who calls titles like Contra 4, Phoenix Wright, Ninja Gaiden, Zelda, Advance Wars, Disgea and Dragon quest "nothing" is a poor excuse for of a gamer

First off, the GBA had one hell of a better game library. The DS is a joke in comparison.

And wheres the inovation. All those games could be done better on other system with out any of it being compromised.

None of the games on the DS put a reall good inovative use to it's touch screen. I didn't buy the DS to have a GBA or N64 experience. And thats where the DS fails mst.

I really don't care about all thse games you listed. Those games were not why I bought the DS in the first place.

The GBA had a crap library, its all licenced crap, if you think the GBA's library is better you must like lizzy mcguire games.........oh wait, you think it beter 'cause that vomit known as KH:Chain Of Memories is on it.

Yes, because we all know lizzy mcguire was the only game on the GBA

Ever heard of an example?

If one bad game was to represent a console's whole library then ever console has a bad library.

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#53 _S0LID_SNAKE_
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[QUOTE="Tnasty11"]i liked KH, KH2 and KH COM so stop dissing itvashkey

They are afraid of staying on topic because I tottally owned them so they have to switch to Kingdom Hearts.

Yeah, your biased opinion sure owned everyone. :roll:
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#54 _S0LID_SNAKE_
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[QUOTE="_S0LID_SNAKE_"][QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="_S0LID_SNAKE_"][QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="NorthlandMan"][QUOTE="vashkey"]

What do you care about my preferences? Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I don't like quality games. Or that you do.

vashkey

you call out the greatest handheld ever made on System Wars then you're going to get your ass handed to you. Anyone who calls titles like Contra 4, Phoenix Wright, Ninja Gaiden, Zelda, Advance Wars, Disgea and Dragon quest "nothing" is a poor excuse for of a gamer

First off, the GBA had one hell of a better game library. The DS is a joke in comparison.

And wheres the inovation. All those games could be done better on other system with out any of it being compromised.

None of the games on the DS put a reall good inovative use to it's touch screen. I didn't buy the DS to have a GBA or N64 experience. And thats where the DS fails mst.

I really don't care about all thse games you listed. Those games were not why I bought the DS in the first place.

The GBA had a crap library, its all licenced crap, if you think the GBA's library is better you must like lizzy mcguire games.........oh wait, you think it beter 'cause that vomit known as KH:Chain Of Memories is on it.

Yes, because we all know lizzy mcguire was the only game on the GBA

Ever heard of an example?

If one bad game was to represent a console's whole library then ever console has a bad library.

No I was just saying the GBA's library is basically the breeding grounds for licenced games, except for some great games inbetween.
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#55 vashkey
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[QUOTE="vashkey"]

[QUOTE="Tnasty11"]i liked KH, KH2 and KH COM so stop dissing it_S0LID_SNAKE_

They are afraid of staying on topic because I tottally owned them so they have to switch to Kingdom Hearts.

Yeah, your biased opinion sure owned everyone. :roll:

How was it biased? I stated I had a DS. That means I gave it a chance. I had a DS from Dec 2004 to June 2007. I know what Im talking about and I'm being honest. I gave the DS a generous chance and it totally failed me and feel incredibly short of my expectations.

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#56 vashkey
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[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="_S0LID_SNAKE_"][QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="_S0LID_SNAKE_"][QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="NorthlandMan"][QUOTE="vashkey"]

What do you care about my preferences? Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I don't like quality games. Or that you do.

_S0LID_SNAKE_

you call out the greatest handheld ever made on System Wars then you're going to get your ass handed to you. Anyone who calls titles like Contra 4, Phoenix Wright, Ninja Gaiden, Zelda, Advance Wars, Disgea and Dragon quest "nothing" is a poor excuse for of a gamer

First off, the GBA had one hell of a better game library. The DS is a joke in comparison.

And wheres the inovation. All those games could be done better on other system with out any of it being compromised.

None of the games on the DS put a reall good inovative use to it's touch screen. I didn't buy the DS to have a GBA or N64 experience. And thats where the DS fails mst.

I really don't care about all thse games you listed. Those games were not why I bought the DS in the first place.

The GBA had a crap library, its all licenced crap, if you think the GBA's library is better you must like lizzy mcguire games.........oh wait, you think it beter 'cause that vomit known as KH:Chain Of Memories is on it.

Yes, because we all know lizzy mcguire was the only game on the GBA

Ever heard of an example?

If one bad game was to represent a console's whole library then ever console has a bad library.

No I was just saying the GBA's library is basically the breeding grounds for licenced games, except for some great games inbetween.

Much like the DS. Except with the DS much of the potential is left untaped by the "good games"

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#57 kefkaconchetuma
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This is why I sold my DS. No games. Nothing. Inovation my ass.

vashkey

aaa the sweet feeling of living in denial.

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#58 marioraider
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This is why I sold my DS. No games. Nothing. Inovation my ass.

vashkey

As suppose to what? A PSP?

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#59 vashkey
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[QUOTE="vashkey"]

This is why I sold my DS. No games. Nothing. Inovation my ass.

marioraider

As suppose to what? A PSP?

No, PSP sucks to. Right now handheld gaming just sucks.

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! I need to hurry up and win the lotto. Can't support my gaming "hobby" while paying for college too!
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#61 _S0LID_SNAKE_
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[QUOTE="_S0LID_SNAKE_"][QUOTE="vashkey"]

[QUOTE="Tnasty11"]i liked KH, KH2 and KH COM so stop dissing itvashkey

They are afraid of staying on topic because I tottally owned them so they have to switch to Kingdom Hearts.

Yeah, your biased opinion sure owned everyone. :roll:

How was it biased? I stated I had a DS. That means I gave it a chance. I had a DS from Dec 2004 to June 2007. I know what Im talking about and I'm being honest. I gave the DS a generous chance and it totally failed me and feel incredibly short of my expectations.

You said EVERY DS game is bad, and you think thats not biased. :|
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#62 NorthlandMan
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Oh, Im sorry I had no idea that this was a confersation between the two of you and this topic wasn't open to anyone else.

vashkey

so two people talking about something in a thread means that no-one else is allowed to contribute? Nice logic there brainiac

First off, the GBA had one hell of a better game library. The DS is a joke in comparison.

And wheres the inovation. All those games could be done better on other system with out any of it being compromised.

None of the games on the DS put a reall good inovative use to it's touch screen. I didn't buy the DS to have a GBA or N64 experience. And thats where the DS fails mst.

I really don't care about all thse games you listed. Those games were not why I bought the DS in the first place.

vashkey

Ridiculous post, but i should expect nothing less from someone who gave final Fantasy Tactics a 3.1 and Dragonball Z a 9.1

Much of the GBA's most lauded output consisted of SNES ports (games which incidentally those of us over 12 had already played). The DS has original exclusive games and a lot of them. As for "innovation" i would anyone with any sense could take a look at the likes of canvas curse, TPH, IAWW, ASH, Hotel Dusk and NG DS to see that developers are making a concerted effort to use the DS's interface in exciting ways (where applicable). Your failure to recognise the creativity of those developers not mean it isn't there The DS does not have an "n64" experience in any way (the only attempt to replicate this with mario 64 failed miserably). There are many titles that evoke memories of GBA or GB games but this is in no way a bad thing considering the awesomeness of those handhelds.

The only thing that "fails hard" here is you. those of us with taste are looking forward to the likes of ASH, TOi, DQ9, Zelda, Contra 4, Advance Wars 2 and Ninja Gaiden.

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#63 vashkey
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[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="_S0LID_SNAKE_"][QUOTE="vashkey"]

[QUOTE="Tnasty11"]i liked KH, KH2 and KH COM so stop dissing it_S0LID_SNAKE_

They are afraid of staying on topic because I tottally owned them so they have to switch to Kingdom Hearts.

Yeah, your biased opinion sure owned everyone. :roll:

How was it biased? I stated I had a DS. That means I gave it a chance. I had a DS from Dec 2004 to June 2007. I know what Im talking about and I'm being honest. I gave the DS a generous chance and it totally failed me and feel incredibly short of my expectations.

You said EVERY DS game is bad, and you think thats not biased. :|

When did I say every DS game is bad? Where. quote it.

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#64 vashkey
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[QUOTE="vashkey"]

Oh, Im sorry I had no idea that this was a confersation between the two of you and this topic wasn't open to anyone else.

NorthlandMan

so two people talking about something in a thread means that no-one else is allowed to contribute? Nice logic there brainiac

First off, the GBA had one hell of a better game library. The DS is a joke in comparison.

And wheres the inovation. All those games could be done better on other system with out any of it being compromised.

None of the games on the DS put a reall good inovative use to it's touch screen. I didn't buy the DS to have a GBA or N64 experience. And thats where the DS fails mst.

I really don't care about all thse games you listed. Those games were not why I bought the DS in the first place.

vashkey

Ridiculous post, but i should expect nothing less from someone who gave final Fantasy Tactics a 3.1 and Dragonball Z a 9.1

Much of the GBA's most lauded output consisted of SNES ports (games which incidentally those of us over 12 had already played). The DS has original exclusive games and a lot of them. As for "innovation" i would anyone with any sense could take a look at the likes of canvas curse, TPH, IAWW, ASH, Hotel Dusk and NG DS to see that developers are making a concerted effort to use the DS's interface in exciting ways (where applicable). Your failure to recognise the creativity of those developers not mean it isn't there The DS does not have an "n64" experience in any way (the only attempt to replicate this with mario 64 failed miserably). There are many titles that evoke memories of GBA or GB games but this is in no way a bad thing considering the awesomeness of those handhelds.

The only thing that "fails hard" here is you. those of us with taste are looking forward to the likes of ASH, TOi, DQ9, Zelda, Contra 4, Advance Wars 2 and Ninja Gaiden.

On the first part, I was being sarcastic. That one guy was saying I was butting into his confersation.

And the reason I gave tactics a 3.1 was because I simply did not like it. I know lots of people do like it and that my opinion it doesnt count simply because I don't like strategy games, so I didn't review it.

And the DBZ game you brought up is Budokai 3. One of the few good DBZ games. Read reviews on it. You probably never played it anywway.

And again, how does my opinion on those game pertai nto the topic?

Canvas Curse was inovative but short. And inovation inst an excuse to make a short or repetitive game. ASH doesnt exist yet, why bring it up? How do you know this unreleased Zelda game is inovative? Stop mentioning games that aren't here yet. You don't know if their good if you haven't played them.

If the game ins't like a GBA game it's like somthing you'd see on the n64. If you don't beleive look at the current DS catlouge and think of the GBA and N64. ou might see a resmbelnace. If you don't too bad, that doesn't mean Im going to change my stance.

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#65 PacBoy23
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FF Tactics 2 ZOMG SO HYPED!!hummer700

agreed that the only thing that took my eye

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#66 Shinobishyguy
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:lol: at these people saying that the ds is crap.

Look at that list and tell me with a straight face that it's crap.

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#67 REVOLUTIONfreak
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Add Advance Wars DS 2 to that list. I recently learned that that game was actually announced at E3, but the media missed it... I found (well, technically another user found)an article on IGN confirming it.

Take note guys that this lineup is for this year, and that there are many games planned for 2008 already, such as DQIX, Final Fantasy IV,and Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Ring of Fates.

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#68 vashkey
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:lol: at these people saying that the ds is crap.

Look at that list and tell me with a straight face that it's crap.

Shinobishyguy

*looks at the list*

It's crap

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#69 REVOLUTIONfreak
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[QUOTE="NorthlandMan"][QUOTE="vashkey"]

Oh, Im sorry I had no idea that this was a confersation between the two of you and this topic wasn't open to anyone else.

vashkey

so two people talking about something in a thread means that no-one else is allowed to contribute? Nice logic there brainiac

First off, the GBA had one hell of a better game library. The DS is a joke in comparison.

And wheres the inovation. All those games could be done better on other system with out any of it being compromised.

None of the games on the DS put a reall good inovative use to it's touch screen. I didn't buy the DS to have a GBA or N64 experience. And thats where the DS fails mst.

I really don't care about all thse games you listed. Those games were not why I bought the DS in the first place.

vashkey

Ridiculous post, but i should expect nothing less from someone who gave final Fantasy Tactics a 3.1 and Dragonball Z a 9.1

Much of the GBA's most lauded output consisted of SNES ports (games which incidentally those of us over 12 had already played). The DS has original exclusive games and a lot of them. As for "innovation" i would anyone with any sense could take a look at the likes of canvas curse, TPH, IAWW, ASH, Hotel Dusk and NG DS to see that developers are making a concerted effort to use the DS's interface in exciting ways (where applicable). Your failure to recognise the creativity of those developers not mean it isn't there The DS does not have an "n64" experience in any way (the only attempt to replicate this with mario 64 failed miserably). There are many titles that evoke memories of GBA or GB games but this is in no way a bad thing considering the awesomeness of those handhelds.

The only thing that "fails hard" here is you. those of us with taste are looking forward to the likes of ASH, TOi, DQ9, Zelda, Contra 4, Advance Wars 2 and Ninja Gaiden.

On the first part, I was being sarcastic. That one guy was saying I was butting into his confersation.

And the reason I gave tactics a 3.1 was because I simply did not like it. I know lots of people do like it and that my opinion it doesnt count simply because I don't like strategy games, so I didn't review it.

And the DBZ game you brought up is Budokai 3. One of the few good DBZ games. Read reviews on it. You probably never played it anywway.

And again, how does my opinion on those game pertai nto the topic?

Canvas Curse was inovative but short. And inovation inst an excuse to make a short or repetitive game. ASH doesnt exist yet, why bring it up? How do you know this unreleased Zelda game is inovative? Stop mentioning games that aren't here yet. You don't know if their good if you haven't played them.

If the game ins't like a GBA game it's like somthing you'd see on the n64. If you don't beleive look at the current DS catlouge and think of the GBA and N64. ou might see a resmbelnace. If you don't too bad, that doesn't mean Im going to change my stance.

The DS doesn't have innovation? Are you being serious? Does Nintendogs, Brain Age, Kirby Canvas Curse, Yoshi Touch and Go, or Meteos ring a bell? I think it is pretty safe to say that those games are all innovative, even if you don't like them. Also, how can you say that we can't judge Zelda already on the aspect of whether or not itis innovative if we haven't played it? Do you recognize what forum we're on? This is system wars, people judge games like Killzone 2, Halo 3, and Crysis already and yet we can't judge whether or not Zelda is innovative? Of course it is innovative! It stands out as a true DS game by utilizing ONLY the touch screen, and the Famitsu near perfect score proves that it worked out. Your point has failed, miserably.

Oh, and it is spelled conversation, not confersation.

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#70 metroidfood
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IMO, Race Driver: Create and Race, Geometry Wars Galaxies, DK Jungle Climber, and Chibi Robo should all be added to that list.

Then it'll be perfect (barring anything I forgot or games we haven't seen much of).

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#71 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

:lol: at these people saying that the ds is crap.

Look at that list and tell me with a straight face that it's crap.

vashkey

*looks at the list*

It's crap

wow...just wow....I know that we are all entitled to our own opinions.....but there should be limits, starting with you.
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#72 TheSpidren
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

:lol: at these people saying that the ds is crap.

Look at that list and tell me with a straight face that it's crap.

vashkey

*looks at the list*

It's crap



*looks at vashkey*

You're crap
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#73 NorthlandMan
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On the first part, I was being sarcastic. That one guy was saying I was butting into his confersation.

vashkey

duly noted

And the reason I gave tactics a 3.1 was because I simply did not like it. I know lots of people do like it and that my opinion it doesnt count simply because I don't like strategy games, so I didn't review it.

And the DBZ game you brought up is Budokai 3. One of the few good DBZ games. Read reviews on it. You probably never played it anywway.

vashkey

i apologise, it was a low blow and there is no accounting for taste

Canvas Curse was inovative but short. And inovation inst an excuse to make a short or repetitive game. ASH doesnt exist yet, why bring it up? How do you know this unreleased Zelda game is inovative? Stop mentioning games that aren't here yet. You don't know if their good if you haven't played them.

If the game ins't like a GBA game it's like somthing you'd see on the n64. If you don't beleive look at the current DS catlouge and think of the GBA and N64. ou might see a resmbelnace. If you don't too bad, that doesn't mean Im going to change my stance.

vashkey

Canavs curse was short. NSMB, Advance Wars DS and Pokemon are not. you can not judge the entire lineup of a machine by one or two games

The Zelda game is AMAZING, many who have played it rate it higher than Zelda TP and through my limited playtime with the japanese version i'd have to agree. ASH does indeed exists and is attempting to merge the SRPG and tradditional RPG genres, something that they are utilisng the DS for

As for games that "remind you of the GBA and N64" i reiterate there is nothing on the machine apart from Mario 64 that reminds me of the N64. Alot of the games are reminiscent of GBA games but that is because the DS is the GBA's successor and it would ridiculous to expect this to not be the case. Games like Zelda TPH, DQ9, ninja Gaiden DS, ASH, IAWW, HOM, hotel dusk, panzer tactics, anno 1701, Mysims Picross and MPH are just a few examples of titles that do not have counterparts on the GBA or N64. and i'm sure there are many more

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#74 metroidfood
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

:lol: at these people saying that the ds is crap.

Look at that list and tell me with a straight face that it's crap.

vashkey

*looks at the list*

It's crap

It's a Wonderful World is on that list, and despite not yet having a release date, I can't agree with you on that as it looks like a great AND innovative game.

And btw, weren't you the one telling people don't judge a game before it's released? Maybe you should try some of your own medicine.

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#75 Dencore
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This is why I sold my DS. No games. Nothing. Inovation my ass.

vashkey

:o TEH OWNAGE!

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#76 REVOLUTIONfreak
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[QUOTE="vashkey"]

On the first part, I was being sarcastic. That one guy was saying I was butting into his confersation.

NorthlandMan

duly noted

And the reason I gave tactics a 3.1 was because I simply did not like it. I know lots of people do like it and that my opinion it doesnt count simply because I don't like strategy games, so I didn't review it.

And the DBZ game you brought up is Budokai 3. One of the few good DBZ games. Read reviews on it. You probably never played it anywway.

vashkey

i apologise, it was a low blow and there is no accounting for taste

Canvas Curse was inovative but short. And inovation inst an excuse to make a short or repetitive game. ASH doesnt exist yet, why bring it up? How do you know this unreleased Zelda game is inovative? Stop mentioning games that aren't here yet. You don't know if their good if you haven't played them.

If the game ins't like a GBA game it's like somthing you'd see on the n64. If you don't beleive look at the current DS catlouge and think of the GBA and N64. ou might see a resmbelnace. If you don't too bad, that doesn't mean Im going to change my stance.

vashkey

Canavs curse was short. NSMB, Advance Wars DS and Pokemon are not. you can not judge the entire lineup of a machine by one or two games

The Zelda game is AMAZING, many who have played it rate it higher than Zelda TP and through my limited playtime with the japanese version i'd have to agree. ASH does indeed exists and is attempting to merge the SRPG and tradditional RPG genres, something that they are utilisng the DS for

As for games that "remind you of the GBA and N64" i reiterate there is nothing on the machine apart from Mario 64 that reminds me of the N64. Alot of the games are reminiscent of GBA games but that is because the DS is the GBA's successor and it would ridiculous to expect this to not be the case. Games like Zelda TPH, DQ9, ninja Gaiden DS, ASH, IAWW, HOM, hotel dusk, panzer tactics, anno 1701, Mysims Picross and MPH are just a few examples of titles that do not have counterparts on the GBA or N64. and i'm sure there are many more

Actually Phantom Hourglass does have a counterpart on the GBA... Minish Cap and A Link to the Past. Sorry, had to mention that.
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#77 MartinMan
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Ninja Gaiden: Dragon Sword is a day 1 purchase for me 8)

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#78 nishamuffypuppy
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They have some great games coming, but I still have a number of games to buy for the DS still...
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#79 archpro
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ROFL, FPS on a DS, I find that hard to imagine, but w/e.
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#80 Tnasty11
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so everyone bashing vashkey because he don't like the ds line up that's sad
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#81 Dencore
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so everyone bashing vashkey because he don't like the ds line up that's sadTnasty11

Everyone's bashing him because he says the DS flatout sucks and he won't stop replying to us.

PSP fans do the same why not DS fans?

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#82 Shinobishyguy
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so everyone bashing vashkey because he don't like the ds line up that's sadTnasty11
yup....that he's calling the ds line-up crap when games like Phantom hourglass and ninja gainen: DS are staring at him in the face.

That is indeed sad...

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#83 vashkey
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[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="NorthlandMan"][QUOTE="vashkey"]

Oh, Im sorry I had no idea that this was a confersation between the two of you and this topic wasn't open to anyone else.

REVOLUTIONfreak

so two people talking about something in a thread means that no-one else is allowed to contribute? Nice logic there brainiac

First off, the GBA had one hell of a better game library. The DS is a joke in comparison.

And wheres the inovation. All those games could be done better on other system with out any of it being compromised.

None of the games on the DS put a reall good inovative use to it's touch screen. I didn't buy the DS to have a GBA or N64 experience. And thats where the DS fails mst.

I really don't care about all thse games you listed. Those games were not why I bought the DS in the first place.

vashkey

Ridiculous post, but i should expect nothing less from someone who gave final Fantasy Tactics a 3.1 and Dragonball Z a 9.1

Much of the GBA's most lauded output consisted of SNES ports (games which incidentally those of us over 12 had already played). The DS has original exclusive games and a lot of them. As for "innovation" i would anyone with any sense could take a look at the likes of canvas curse, TPH, IAWW, ASH, Hotel Dusk and NG DS to see that developers are making a concerted effort to use the DS's interface in exciting ways (where applicable). Your failure to recognise the creativity of those developers not mean it isn't there The DS does not have an "n64" experience in any way (the only attempt to replicate this with mario 64 failed miserably). There are many titles that evoke memories of GBA or GB games but this is in no way a bad thing considering the awesomeness of those handhelds.

The only thing that "fails hard" here is you. those of us with taste are looking forward to the likes of ASH, TOi, DQ9, Zelda, Contra 4, Advance Wars 2 and Ninja Gaiden.

On the first part, I was being sarcastic. That one guy was saying I was butting into his confersation.

And the reason I gave tactics a 3.1 was because I simply did not like it. I know lots of people do like it and that my opinion it doesnt count simply because I don't like strategy games, so I didn't review it.

And the DBZ game you brought up is Budokai 3. One of the few good DBZ games. Read reviews on it. You probably never played it anywway.

And again, how does my opinion on those game pertai nto the topic?

Canvas Curse was inovative but short. And inovation inst an excuse to make a short or repetitive game. ASH doesnt exist yet, why bring it up? How do you know this unreleased Zelda game is inovative? Stop mentioning games that aren't here yet. You don't know if their good if you haven't played them.

If the game ins't like a GBA game it's like somthing you'd see on the n64. If you don't beleive look at the current DS catlouge and think of the GBA and N64. ou might see a resmbelnace. If you don't too bad, that doesn't mean Im going to change my stance.

The DS doesn't have innovation? Are you being serious? Does Nintendogs, Brain Age, Kirby Canvas Curse, Yoshi Touch and Go, or Meteos ring a bell? I think it is pretty safe to say that those games are all innovative, even if you don't like them. Also, how can you say that we can't judge Zelda already on the aspect of whether or not itis innovative if we haven't played it? Do you recognize what forum we're on? This is system wars, people judge games like Killzone 2, Halo 3, and Crysis already and yet we can't judge whether or not Zelda is innovative? Of course it is innovative! It stands out as a true DS game by utilizing ONLY the touch screen, and the Famitsu near perfect score proves that it worked out. Your point has failed, miserably.

Oh, and it is spelled conversation, not confersation.

Nintendogs might be innovatative, but it's certainly not for me. Brain age is a quiz game..... That isn't innovative. It's been done before. Long ago. Kirby Canvas Curse was short and repetitive. Inovation doesn't save it from that. Meteos actually was good. Yoshi much like Kirby failed with reptitive gameplay. None of it saves the DS from completly missing the mark of it's supposed inovative reputation.

I don't care if you all think it's okay to say a game is good before it's out. Those sorts of arguments are weak and I'm not even going to acknoledge them.

I really don't care about famitsu. And I wonrebuy the DS for a Zelda and some half good DS games. You've failed miserably to point out more than a handful of inovative games or to even persuade me.

By the way, go correct the rest of the user while you're at it.

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#84 vashkey
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[QUOTE="Tnasty11"]so everyone bashing vashkey because he don't like the ds line up that's sadShinobishyguy

yup....that he's calling the ds line-up crap when games like Phantom hourglass and ninja gainen: DS are staring at him in the face.

That is indeed sad...

I hope you don't think two games will save an entire system from having a bad line up.

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[QUOTE="Tnasty11"]so everyone bashing vashkey because he don't like the ds line up that's sadDencore

Everyone's bashing him because he says the DS flatout sucks and he won't stop replying to us.

PSP fans do the same why not DS fans?

DS fans does every time when there a topic about psp and can ds & psp get along for once
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#87 Dencore
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[QUOTE="Dencore"]

[QUOTE="Tnasty11"]so everyone bashing vashkey because he don't like the ds line up that's sadTnasty11

Everyone's bashing him because he says the DS flatout sucks and he won't stop replying to us.

PSP fans do the same why not DS fans?

DS fans does every time when there a topic about psp and can ds & psp get along for once

No.

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#88 vashkey
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[QUOTE="Tnasty11"]so everyone bashing vashkey because he don't like the ds line up that's sadDencore

Everyone's bashing him because he says the DS flatout sucks and he won't stop replying to us.

PSP fans do the same why not DS fans?

I have an opinion. And I'm not going to change my mind or stop thinking it just because you all don't like it. Bring on the bashing.

And it doesn't flat out suck .... It just fails to innovate or have a good reason for me to buy it again.

It has some good games, it's just that it's pointless to get em when you could bet better versions of them on other systems.

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#89 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="Tnasty11"]so everyone bashing vashkeybecause he don't like the ds line up that's sadvashkey

yup....that he's calling the ds line-up crap when games like Phantom hourglass and ninja gainen: DS are staring at him in the face.

That is indeed sad...

I hope you don't think two games will save an entire system from having a bad line up.

I was using only 2 games as an example. Surly you don't want me to re-post that entire list filled with good games to try and counter what little floundering argument you have.

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#90 Tnasty11
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[QUOTE="Tnasty11"][QUOTE="Dencore"]

[QUOTE="Tnasty11"]so everyone bashing vashkey because he don't like the ds line up that's sadDencore

Everyone's bashing him because he says the DS flatout sucks and he won't stop replying to us.

PSP fans do the same why not DS fans?

DS fans does every time when there a topic about psp and can ds & psp get along for once

No.

and that's why the agruing between DS and psp will never end
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#91 NorthlandMan
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and that's why the agruing between DS and psp will never endTnasty11

That's why the DS vs PSP war is the best console war since the Genesis vs the SNES

so everyone bashing vashkey because he don't like the ds line up that's sadTnasty11

that's not sad, that's expected. You dismiss something that is perceived as awesome you will be ripped apart on system wars. and that's precsiely what happened to Vashkey

he used a ridiculous argument against a great machine and he got owned for the privelage

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#92 vashkey
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[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="Tnasty11"]so everyone bashing vashkeybecause he don't like the ds line up that's sadShinobishyguy

yup....that he's calling the ds line-up crap when games like Phantom hourglass and ninja gainen: DS are staring at him in the face.

That is indeed sad...

I hope you don't think two games will save an entire system from having a bad line up.

I was using only 2 games as an example. Surly you don't want me to re-post that entire list filled with good games to try and counter what little floundering argument you have.

Try me.

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#93 vashkey
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[QUOTE="Tnasty11"]so everyone bashing vashkey because he don't like the ds line up that's sadNorthlandMan

that's not sad, that's expected. You dismiss something that is perceived as awesome you will be ripped apart on system wars. and that's precsiely what happened to Vashkey

he used a ridiculous argument against a great machine and he got owned for the privelage

No, everyone here so far has failed to present a good argument against me.

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#94 vashkey
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[QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"][QUOTE="Dencore"]

[QUOTE="Tnasty11"]so everyone bashing vashkey because he don't like the ds line up that's sadTnasty11

Everyone's bashing him because he says the DS flatout sucks and he won't stop replying to us.

PSP fans do the same why not DS fans?

DS fans does every time when there a topic about psp and can ds & psp get along for once

No.

and that's why the agruing between DS and psp will never end

Well, if it makes you feel better I don't take either side. Both handhelds are pretty bad.

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#95 metroidfood
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I have an opinion. And I'm not going to change my mind or stop thinking it just because you all don't like it. Bring on the bashing.

And it doesn't flat out suck .... It just fails to innovate or have a good reason for me to buy it again.

It has some good games, it's just that it's pointless to get em when you could bet better versions of them on other systems.

vashkey

I fail to see better versions of games like Elite Beat Agents, Meteos, and Phoenix Wright on other systems.

If you don't like the games, then good for you for not buying them. But don't try to make uneducated statements and tout them like fact.

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#96 Dencore
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I fail to undestand how someone could have over 15,000 posts yet not hear of "editing" :|
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#97 vashkey
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[QUOTE="vashkey"]

I have an opinion. And I'm not going to change my mind or stop thinking it just because you all don't like it. Bring on the bashing.

And it doesn't flat out suck .... It just fails to innovate or have a good reason for me to buy it again.

It has some good games, it's just that it's pointless to get em when you could bet better versions of them on other systems.

metroidfood

I fail to see better versions of games like Elite Beat Agents, Meteos, and Phoenix Wright on other systems.

If you don't like the games, then good for you for not buying them. But don't try to make uneducated statements and tout them like fact.

If your willing to buy a DS for those games alone the go right on ahead.

Oh yes, very uneducated because you thought of three games. Right....

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#98 kman3002
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DS=Greastest handheld ever.

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#99 vashkey
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As fun as this is Im going. you all already know Im not going to be persuaded and we all know the densness of a Nintendo fan boy so there no point in trying to persuade you guys. dinner time :)
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#100 vashkey
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I fail to undestand how someone could have over 15,000 posts yet not hear of "editing" :|Dencore

He he, I think it's funny how you had to edit your post. Anyway, you guys seem to understand what Im typing. Plus theres no point in editing in a topic where we keep building up the pages so fast. Unless theres a user with the patience of a saint, I don't think anyone's gonna wanna read all ten pages here.