[QUOTE="REVOLUTIONfreak"][QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="NorthlandMan"][QUOTE="vashkey"] Oh, Im sorry I had no idea that this was a confersation between the two of you and this topic wasn't open to anyone else.
vashkey
so two people talking about something in a thread means that no-one else is allowed to contribute? Nice logic there brainiac
First off, the GBA had one hell of a better game library. The DS is a joke in comparison.
And wheres the inovation. All those games could be done better on other system with out any of it being compromised.
None of the games on the DS put a reall good inovative use to it's touch screen. I didn't buy the DS to have a GBA or N64 experience. And thats where the DS fails mst.
I really don't care about all thse games you listed. Those games were not why I bought the DS in the first place.
vashkey
Ridiculous post, but i should expect nothing less from someone who gave final Fantasy Tactics a 3.1 and Dragonball Z a 9.1
Much of the GBA's most lauded output consisted of SNES ports (games which incidentally those of us over 12 had already played). The DS has original exclusive games and a lot of them. As for "innovation" i would anyone with any sense could take a look at the likes of canvas curse, TPH, IAWW, ASH, Hotel Dusk and NG DS to see that developers are making a concerted effort to use the DS's interface in exciting ways (where applicable). Your failure to recognise the creativity of those developers not mean it isn't there The DS does not have an "n64" experience in any way (the only attempt to replicate this with mario 64 failed miserably). There are many titles that evoke memories of GBA or GB games but this is in no way a bad thing considering the awesomeness of those handhelds.
The only thing that "fails hard" here is you. those of us with taste are looking forward to the likes of ASH, TOi, DQ9, Zelda, Contra 4, Advance Wars 2 and Ninja Gaiden.
On the first part, I was being sarcastic. That one guy was saying I was butting into his confersation.
And the reason I gave tactics a 3.1 was because I simply did not like it. I know lots of people do like it and that my opinion it doesnt count simply because I don't like strategy games, so I didn't review it.
And the DBZ game you brought up is Budokai 3. One of the few good DBZ games. Read reviews on it. You probably never played it anywway.
And again, how does my opinion on those game pertai nto the topic?
Canvas Curse was inovative but short. And inovation inst an excuse to make a short or repetitive game. ASH doesnt exist yet, why bring it up? How do you know this unreleased Zelda game is inovative? Stop mentioning games that aren't here yet. You don't know if their good if you haven't played them.
If the game ins't like a GBA game it's like somthing you'd see on the n64. If you don't beleive look at the current DS catlouge and think of the GBA and N64. ou might see a resmbelnace. If you don't too bad, that doesn't mean Im going to change my stance.
The DS doesn't have innovation? Are you being serious? Does Nintendogs, Brain Age, Kirby Canvas Curse, Yoshi Touch and Go, or Meteos ring a bell? I think it is pretty safe to say that those games are all innovative, even if you don't like them. Also, how can you say that we can't judge Zelda already on the aspect of whether or not itis innovative if we haven't played it? Do you recognize what forum we're on? This is system wars, people judge games like Killzone 2, Halo 3, and Crysis already and yet we can't judge whether or not Zelda is innovative? Of course it is innovative! It stands out as a true DS game by utilizing ONLY the touch screen, and the Famitsu near perfect score proves that it worked out. Your point has failed, miserably.Oh, and it is spelled conversation, not confersation.
Nintendogs might be innovatative, but it's certainly not for me. Brain age is a quiz game..... That isn't innovative. It's been done before. Long ago. Kirby Canvas Curse was short and repetitive. Inovation doesn't save it from that. Meteos actually was good. Yoshi much like Kirby failed with reptitive gameplay. None of it saves the DS from completly missing the mark of it's supposed inovative reputation.
I don't care if you all think it's okay to say a game is good before it's out. Those sorts of arguments are weak and I'm not even going to acknoledge them.
I really don't care about famitsu. And I wonrebuy the DS for a Zelda and some half good DS games. You've failed miserably to point out more than a handful of inovative games or to even persuade me.
By the way, go correct the rest of the user while you're at it.
I didn't find Kirby to berepetitive... and Brain Age is innovative, you were complaining before about no game using the DS' innovative features, and that game heavily uses all of them. Stop contradicting yourself. Oh, and if you want a personal testimony on Phantom Hourglass, why don't you go to the game's forum? The DS is import free, after all. How long exactly did you even own your DS? You probably bought it at launch and then got rid of it within a few months time, which IMO is the stupidest thing you can do with a new console.
Oh, and you spelled innovative two different ways just now. 
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