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#1 psymon100
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What is/are the most unimportant, facile, vacuous point/s of contention in the System War? Think about something that everyone else thinks is big but really means nothing at all (it could just mean nothing to you). I'm going to post my own examples, one for each faction:

 

Xbox- the cloud. Hey don't get me wrong, I accept MS as having the best cloud infrastructure. But others can build a cloud infrastructure too, and I haven't got fibre yet so it's just moot at this stage for me. 

PS4 - the graphics. Hey don't get me wrong, I accept PS4 as being most likely to have the best graphics, this is based on the specs. But I've seen PS4's graphics 1st hand and as good as they are I've seen more mind bending graphics on PC already. If I'm going to buy a PS4 it will be for great games, games that must have a PS4 in order to be played - not for PS4's graphics. 

Nintendo - the free online. Hey don't get me wrong, it's better for online to be free than to cost money. But with millions more players (and probably your mates) on competing online infrastructures ... I'd be more inclined to part with some money just to join my mates. 

PC- the ability to mod games. Hey - don't get me wrong, some people are hard out into modding their games. This is mostly a personal thing for me, I very seldom do this. Yeah it's nice to pull out a graphics fix or something sometimes (Dark Souls for example, in fact I was playing just last night.). But I can't accept that modding games is the big big deal that some people make it out to be. 

 

So go on. Tell me all about the superficial rubbish you've seen here on System Wars ... this particular post notwithstanding...

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#2 mrmusicman247
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^ this post right here is pretty dumb. trying to point out flaws on every platform so you "seem" neutral.
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#3 psymon100
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^ this post right here is pretty dumb. trying to point out flaws on every platform so you "seem" neutral.mrmusicman247

Tell everyone my bias. 

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#4 Blabadon
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Scores. Always scores.
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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]^ this post right here is pretty dumb. trying to point out flaws on every platform so you "seem" neutral.psymon100

Tell everyone my bias. 

you want everyone to like you
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#6 psymon100
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Scores. Always scores.Blabadon

Oh yes. ... like ... Metal Gear Solid 4 with it's ten out of ten?

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#7 Wiimotefan
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^ this post right here is pretty dumb. trying to point out flaws on every platform so you "seem" neutral.mrmusicman247

I'm sure that everyone on this board can see the pros and cons of each platform, though many would rather not admit to some.

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#8 Blabadon
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[QUOTE="Blabadon"]Scores. Always scores.psymon100

Oh yes. ... like ... Metal Gear Solid 4 with it's ten out of ten?

Just a particular thread I saw on the 3DS board. I don't mind anyone shoving MGS4's 10/10 in my face, but at least read the text written behind it. Like, it's fun and all in SW, yay a great score, but take some time out of your day and see why. For a hobby we love, a lot of hate reading about the hobby we love.
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#9 psymon100
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you want everyone to like youmrmusicman247

lol

"Everyone" to like me. That sounds impossible. Nope. I'm certainly not aiming for that. 

I don't know man. Do you have anything to add? Surely there is some argument in the SW that you think is just dumb. Some angle that just seems pointless to you. 

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#10 CleanB
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What's "hardcore", "real", "kiddy", "mature" .

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#11 CrownKingArthur
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any discussion about which game or console is the console graphics king. 

i dont even know what sentence to write to describe how i feel about this, so i will just slam my face into the keyboard

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#13 psymon100
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Are too. Some 12 year old on a online message board said so...

farrell2k

Haha well in that case, it appears I have been owned again. 

Congratulations sir. I guess the Wii U might really be the Dreamcast of the gen in your eyes?

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[QUOTE="psymon100"]

[QUOTE="farrell2k"]Are too. Some 12 year old on a online message board said so...

farrell2k

Haha well in that case, it appears I have been owned again. 

Congratulations sir. I guess the Wii U might really be the Dreamcast of the gen in your eyes?

Nah. The WiiU will actually make money. The Dreamcast did not. :)

The actual difference is that Nintendo already has money right now, Sega was pretty much broke by the time they released the Dreamcast, so the sheer hype for the PS2 put the DC out of business.
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What's "hardcore", "real", "kiddy", "mature" .

CleanB

Hardcore - A gamer that actually plays and finishes any game , especially the ones they criticize.

Real - When a game takes you to that special place.

Kiddy - A person that says Nintendo is only for kiddies.

Mature - Stopping to read what you just typed and deleting it before you hit that post button.

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#17 redikan
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What's "hardcore", "real", "kiddy", "mature" .

CleanB

Hardcore - A gamer that actually plays and finishes any game , especially the ones they criticize.

Real - When a game takes you to that special place.

Kiddy - A person that says Nintendo is only for kiddies.

Mature - Stopping to read what you just typed and deleting it before you hit that post button.

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#19 Ilovegames1992
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To be fair. I find the entire concept of System Wars absurd and pointless and the fact its by far the most active board on this site is very depressing.

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#20 redikan
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[QUOTE="Willy105"] The actual difference is that Nintendo already has money right now, Sega was pretty much broke by the time they released the Dreamcast, so the sheer hype for the PS2 put the DC out of business. farrell2k
The WiiU is still not a profitable product as Nintendo is selling it at a loss. I am sure that will turn around later though.

But Willy is not claiming the WiiU is making money. He is saying that Nintendo can survive a worst case scenario with the Wiiu. Sega left the console biz with a worst case Dreamcast scenario.

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#21 redikan
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To be fair. I find the entire concept of System Wars absurd and pointless and the fact its by far the most active board on this site is very depressing.

Ilovegames1992

System Wars helps people develop a special kind of stupid that I find loveable.

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#22 CleanB
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[QUOTE="CleanB"]

What's "hardcore", "real", "kiddy", "mature" .

redikan

 

Hardcore - A gamer that actually plays and finishes any game , especially the ones they criticize.

Real - When a game takes you to that special place.

Kiddy - A person that says Nintendo is only for kiddies.

Mature - Stopping to read what you just typed and deleting it before you hit that post button.

Those terms mean different things to different people--not my definition or yours works for everybody, therefor it's beyond dumb to try.

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#23 psymon100
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[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

To be fair. I find the entire concept of System Wars absurd and pointless and the fact its by far the most active board on this site is very depressing.

redikan

System Wars helps people develop a special kind of stupid that I find loveable.

Yeah it does. Sometimes I'll read posts and I'll get upset that someone could be so stupid, so single minded. Other times i read them and I burst out laughing someone could be so delusional. 

To continue with Ilovegames1992 - I find it infuriating how hard it is here to have a proper discussion. Even if you actually get into a discussion with someone that's really good, how long before a troll comes along ... with the strength to carry on, and they cast logic aside - in system wars it can't survive. 

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#24 CrownKingArthur
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[QUOTE="redikan"]

[QUOTE="CleanB"]

What's "hardcore", "real", "kiddy", "mature" .

CleanB

 

Hardcore - A gamer that actually plays and finishes any game , especially the ones they criticize.

Real - When a game takes you to that special place.

Kiddy - A person that says Nintendo is only for kiddies.

Mature - Stopping to read what you just typed and deleting it before you hit that post button.

Those terms mean different things to different people--not my definition or yours works for everybody, therefor it's beyond dumb to try.

i think he was just making a joke. his one for 'kiddy', i almost spat my coffee out. and mature? haha, i did spit my coffee out!

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#25 redikan
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[QUOTE="redikan"]

[QUOTE="CleanB"]

What's "hardcore", "real", "kiddy", "mature" .

CleanB

Hardcore - A gamer that actually plays and finishes any game , especially the ones they criticize.

Real - When a game takes you to that special place.

Kiddy - A person that says Nintendo is only for kiddies.

Mature - Stopping to read what you just typed and deleting it before you hit that post button.

Those terms mean different things to different people--not my definition or yours works for everybody, therefor it's beyond dumb to try.

It's not dumb to make the effort to explain or define yourself to someone, but it is extremely dumb to try and impose your definitons onto other people thru an internet discussion.

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What is/are the most unimportant, facile, vacuous point/s of contention in the System War? Think about something that everyone else thinks is big but really means nothing at all (it could just mean nothing to you). I'm going to post my own examples, one for each faction:

 

Xbox- the cloud. Hey don't get me wrong, I accept MS as having the best cloud infrastructure. But others can build a cloud infrastructure too, and I haven't got fibre yet so it's just moot at this stage for me. 

PS4 - the graphics. Hey don't get me wrong, I accept PS4 as being most likely to have the best graphics, this is based on the specs. But I've seen PS4's graphics 1st hand and as good as they are I've seen more mind bending graphics on PC already. If I'm going to buy a PS4 it will be for great games, games that must have a PS4 in order to be played - not for PS4's graphics. 

Nintendo - the free online. Hey don't get me wrong, it's better for online to be free than to cost money. But with millions more players (and probably your mates) on competing online infrastructures ... I'd be more inclined to part with some money just to join my mates. 

PC- the ability to mod games. Hey - don't get me wrong, some people are hard out into modding their games. This is mostly a personal thing for me, I very seldom do this. Yeah it's nice to pull out a graphics fix or something sometimes (Dark Souls for example, in fact I was playing just last night.). But I can't accept that modding games is the big big deal that some people make it out to be. 

 

So go on. Tell me all about the superficial rubbish you've seen here on System Wars ... this particular post notwithstanding...

psymon100

it's funny because every game forum that I join other then gamespot  doesn't talk about these and respect each other :L.

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it's funny because every game forum that I join other then gamespot  doesn't talk about these and respect each other :L.

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Where is the best place to post? The funniest place, please. 

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#29 deactivated-5c79c3cfce222
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All of them.
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#30 treedoor
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It's not even really an argument, but the dumbest thing about System Wars is how many people not only comment (typically negative) on games they haven't played, but also bash reviews (and reviewers) of games they haven't played.

It wouldn't be half as bad if people would at least stop with the hyperbole though...

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The focus on resolution
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PC being brought into random console arguments and the idea that it must be always noted times how glorious PC gaming is.
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#34 whiskeystrike
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All the exaggeration.

I swear sometimes I just wanna go jump off a bridge reading it.

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[QUOTE="psymon100"]

What is/are the most unimportant, facile, vacuous point/s of contention in the System War? Think about something that everyone else thinks is big but really means nothing at all (it could just mean nothing to you). I'm going to post my own examples, one for each faction:

 

Xbox- the cloud. Hey don't get me wrong, I accept MS as having the best cloud infrastructure. But others can build a cloud infrastructure too, and I haven't got fibre yet so it's just moot at this stage for me. 

PS4 - the graphics. Hey don't get me wrong, I accept PS4 as being most likely to have the best graphics, this is based on the specs. But I've seen PS4's graphics 1st hand and as good as they are I've seen more mind bending graphics on PC already. If I'm going to buy a PS4 it will be for great games, games that must have a PS4 in order to be played - not for PS4's graphics. 

Nintendo - the free online. Hey don't get me wrong, it's better for online to be free than to cost money. But with millions more players (and probably your mates) on competing online infrastructures ... I'd be more inclined to part with some money just to join my mates. 

PC- the ability to mod games. Hey - don't get me wrong, some people are hard out into modding their games. This is mostly a personal thing for me, I very seldom do this. Yeah it's nice to pull out a graphics fix or something sometimes (Dark Souls for example, in fact I was playing just last night.). But I can't accept that modding games is the big big deal that some people make it out to be. 

 

So go on. Tell me all about the superficial rubbish you've seen here on System Wars ... this particular post notwithstanding...

wiiutroll

it's funny because every game forum that I join other then gamespot  doesn't talk about these and respect each other :L.

U sure 'bout that? Sounds like utopia.
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All the talk about who has the best multiplats is always pretty stupid.They are always virtually the same on the HD twins and then with better res/fps on PC.

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#37 NameIess_One
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Console graphics king is a funny one, as well as "teh hardcorz" nonsense.

Claiming a system has "no games" because its exclusive library doesn't cater to your taste is also a good one!

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"Nintendo is doomed"
"Microsoft listened to their fans"

Anything to do with Ryse or Killzone SF

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Everyone saying the XBone or PS4 has better exclusives... Or even the WiiU right now. After launch titles come out they are all going to be pretty much equal
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PC being brought into random console arguments and the idea that it must be always noted times how glorious PC gaming is. LA-Nighthawk

You say it as if consoles and PC's have no relevance to eachother what so ever. They are both gaming platforms.

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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]^ this post right here is pretty dumb. trying to point out flaws on every platform so you "seem" neutral.Wiimotefan

I'm sure that everyone on this board can see the pros and cons of each platform, though many would rather not admit to some.

Spot on, I find it hard to believe people can actually think there's one definitive platform, but again people keep buying stuff solely on brand name alone.

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What's "hardcore", "real", "kiddy", "mature" .

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Dear god, this.

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Hey, don't get me wrong.
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The posters. Their overreaction to anything. The way they try to seperate themselves into a "hardcore gamer" group. The way they look down on people that casually enjoy videogames. The way they overstate many, many things. They are a bunch of cynical twats that only play videogames just so they can complain about them on here.
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#47 Michael0134567
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What's "hardcore", "real", "kiddy", "mature" .

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Definitely these, especially hardcore.
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The posters. Their overreaction to anything. The way they try to seperate themselves into a "hardcore gamer" group. The way they look down on people that casually enjoy videogames. The way they overstate many, many things. They are a bunch of cynical twats that only play videogames just so they can complain about them on here. freedomfreak

Oh look, a casual gamer. Herp derp.

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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]The posters. Their overreaction to anything. The way they try to seperate themselves into a "hardcore gamer" group. The way they look down on people that casually enjoy videogames. The way they overstate many, many things. They are a bunch of cynical twats that only play videogames just so they can complain about them on here. Michael0134567

Oh look, a casual gamer. Herp derp.

They are a bunch of Limbaughs, Michael.
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#50 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]The posters. Their overreaction to anything. The way they try to seperate themselves into a "hardcore gamer" group. The way they look down on people that casually enjoy videogames. The way they overstate many, many things. They are a bunch of cynical twats that only play videogames just so they can complain about them on here. freedomfreak

Oh look, a casual gamer. Herp derp.

They are a bunch of Limbaughs, Michael.

I'm gonna write a blog on how much I hate casual gamers and how they're ruining gaming, my hardcore hobby.