EA: 360 maxed out, PlayStation3 isn't

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#251 MADVLAD123
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="drknockboot2"]Please explain.drknockboot2

Explain what? How two completely different things are different?

Please explain why they wanted to make Mario Bros. Wii online, and said they couldn't. They wanted to have voice chat and couldn't. Explain.

...because of the network infrastructure.

I think you'll just go in circles with this guy.

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#252 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Please explain why they wanted to make Mario Bros. Wii online, and said they couldn't. They wanted to have voice chat and couldn't. Explain.drknockboot2
Because the network infrastructure of Nintendo doesn't allow it. That does not mean the Wii's hardware is maxed out.
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#253 skektek
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and yet you don't post proof that ign confirmed it.... oddWilliamRLBaker
This is one of the most idiotic System Wars traits.
[QUOTE="Me"]2 + 2 = 4Fanboy
Link?

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#254 hyperboy152000
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[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

[QUOTE="drknockboot2"]

Actually, I was watching G4...and they were asking questions about New Super Mario Bros Wii, and they wanted to add voice chat for all 4 players and couldn't. They also wanted to make it online and its not. Looks like the Wii is tapped out.

drknockboot2

thats not so much the hardware (the wii) as much as its what they are trying to do with the network infrastructure nintendo uses, adding online and 4 player chat doesnt take up on the disc either

If the network infrastructure nintendo uses doesn't allow these things, that would mean that the Wii is maxed out correct? I'm not talking about disc space with the Wii.

well no, it just means they dont know about networking as much as sony or ms or just about ever major development studio, which i guess is fine since they are more focused on games you can play with people in the same room vs around the globe

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#255 Mainframe52
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So if you were a developer or publisher like EA, Crytek or any other one, which would be your choice when doing interviews at E3 about your newest project?

A. It's a good game, but due to the economy and budget constraints we simply didn't have the resources to dedicate four years and a 200-man development team in order to take advantage of every possible nuance and squeeze every ounce of power out of (insert console here)'s unique architecture.

or

B. Wait till you see our new game! You've never seen a game like this! We used 130% of the (insert console here)'s power and then we went back and found even MORE ways to get a higher level of performance out of it. There's no way any other game will perform better on (insert console again). We tapped it out!

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#256 furomaster_99
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] This is one of the most idiotic System Wars traits.[QUOTE="Fanboy"][QUOTE="Me"]2 + 2 = 4skektek

Link?

LMFAO :lol:

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#257 meronge
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"Sony has a lot of good games this year. If you go to their booth, there's a very consistent, high quality product line-up and that will help them. I do think that we'll see developers inside the organisation getting to understand the PS3 better and I think that we're getting more power out of PS3 right now... I think that we've maxed out the 360 but we haven't maxed out the PS3."

SAUCE

So there you have it folks.

Ps3 -> 360

-Reggaeton-

selective reading FTW

that same article states, "I'm truly impressed by Xbox. It's my personal favourite console... I think Microsoft is on a roll right now. They're doing really well. If I was Sony, I would have a headache, to be honest."

so there you have it folks, Sony is a massive failure

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#258 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"] That doesn't mean the power of the console is "maxed out".

I find all these allegations of maxed out and percentiles to be downright disengenuous. Yes, you can max out a consoles hardware, but that doesn't mean the graphcis have reached their peak. I could write a simple line of code that would take up my entire PC's page file. ZOMG clearly is must have great graphics.
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#259 drknockboot2
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[QUOTE="drknockboot2"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] Explain what? How two completely different things are different? MADVLAD123

Please explain why they wanted to make Mario Bros. Wii online, and said they couldn't. They wanted to have voice chat and couldn't. Explain.

...because of the network infrastructure.

I think you'll just go in circles with this guy.

I'm going to drop this argument, but no one is pushing the Wii's hardware anyway. Just don't like the to from Nintendo that they wanted to do something in a game and they didn't have the capability.

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#260 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Just don't like the to from Nintendo that they wanted to do something in a game and they didn't have the capability.drknockboot2
Sometime such things happens. So is life.
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#261 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] This is one of the most idiotic System Wars traits.[QUOTE="Fanboy"][QUOTE="Me"]2 + 2 = 4skektek

Link?

so when someone makes a claim and doesn't back said claim up with proof...its idiotic to ask for proof?

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#262 12345678ew
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Crytek said the PS3 is maxed out. :lol:

PS3_3DO
crytek doesn't have a single IT guy in their whole organization, EA has thousands. who do you think knows more about the limits of the consoles? all crytek can do is build the best code on earth and go, somebody better build me sumthing to run this or i'm gonna be REALLY MAD!
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#263 Next-Gen-Tec
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"I think that we've maxed out the 360 but we haven't maxed out the PS3," Different meaning, but still stupid.
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#264 Messiahbolical-
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This thread reeks of damage control. Lemmings got owned by one of the biggest game publishers in the industry.
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#265 SilverChimera
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haha, i remember i made a thread like this after gears 2 came out and got flamed. but anyways, i think its kinda maxed out. no really good games since gears 2 or fable 2.

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#266 WilliamRLBaker
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haha, i remember i made a thread like this after gears 2 came out and got flamed. but anyways, i think its kinda maxed out. no really good games since gears 2 or fable 2.

SilverChimera
lost planet 2 looking better then gears of war, fable 2 and killzone 2 argues otherwise.
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#267 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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This thread reeks of damage control. Lemmings got owned by one of the biggest game publishers in the industry.Messiahbolical-

He also said:

"I think Microsoft is on a roll right now. They're doing really well. If I was Sony, I would have a headache, to be honest"

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#268 muffintheduffin
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[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]This thread reeks of damage control. Lemmings got owned by one of the biggest game publishers in the industry.IronBass

He also said:

"I think Microsoft is on a roll right now. They're doing really well. If I was Sony, I would have a headache, to be honest"

doing "well" doesn't really mean much in this thread thats concerned about whether the 360 is maxed out or not,

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#269 -Traveller-
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This is on par with Crytek saying the PS3 is maxed out.

Truth be told, all engines are going to run differently, and will therefore tax the hardware differently. They will be able to refine engines more and more, and be able to produce something slightly better each time.

Just look to the PS2, with it's early release games, and to FFXII later in release.

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#270 nyctota
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[QUOTE="SilverChimera"]

haha, i remember i made a thread like this after gears 2 came out and got flamed. but anyways, i think its kinda maxed out. no really good games since gears 2 or fable 2.

WilliamRLBaker

lost planet 2 looking better then gears of war, fable 2 and killzone 2 argues otherwise.

this is just wrong lost planet better looking then killzone 2 i mean really ?

did you even play killzone ?

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#271 kozzy1234
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Dont kid yourself, the ps3 and 360 will both be maxed out imo when Crysis2 comes out.
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#272 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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This is on par with Crytek saying the PS3 is maxed out.

Truth be told, all engines are going to run differently, and will therefore tax the hardware differently. They will be able to refine engines more and more, and be able to produce something slightly better each time.

Just look to the PS2, with it's early release games, and to FFXII later in release.

-Traveller-

No it isn't. Crytek is saying their upcoming game engine is close to maxing out the PS3. I can't remember their exact wording. However, EA is saying the 360 is already maxed out and the PS3 isn't yet.

So the only way Crytek's comments would be "on par" is if they said PS3 is maxed out but 360 isn't. Instead, they didn't talk about the 360 at all.

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#274 -Traveller-
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[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

This is on par with Crytek saying the PS3 is maxed out.

Truth be told, all engines are going to run differently, and will therefore tax the hardware differently. They will be able to refine engines more and more, and be able to produce something slightly better each time.

Just look to the PS2, with it's early release games, and to FFXII later in release.

ZIMdoom

No it isn't. Crytek is saying their upcoming game engine is close to maxing out the PS3. I can't remember their exact wording. However, EA is saying the 360 is already maxed out and the PS3 isn't yet.

So the only way Crytek's comments would be "on par" is if they said PS3 is maxed out but 360 isn't. Instead, they didn't talk about the 360 at all.

Ah well, they are in the same vein of reference :P

Either way, we have so many companies saying one console is maxed out, the other isn't, that we should take it with a grain of salt.

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#275 RadBooley
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I'm not sure we should be taking EA as the authority for this kind of thing.

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#276 clone01
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PS3 ftw.....recognizzzzeeeeee

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because the vp for EA Europe, not even a developer, stated an opinion? Gabe Newell said the PS3 is a mistake. by your logic, its 360 FTW.
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#277 guardofdead
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[QUOTE="Jackopeng"]I dont believe the xbox360 is maxed out, i mean its EA how many Graphically Astounding Games have they ever released? With thinks like Natal, Milo etc 360 Is only getting better =]Zaibach

how is natal and milo a showcase of technical power, the wii has been doing motion control since 06

yea, and the ps2 has the eyetoy, witch came out before both.... also the ps1 had a controller with motion sensing in it, like the sixaxis
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#278 DarkGamer007
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Developers saying console X is maxed out is like Kohls lowest prices of the seasons.....you have them every week to the point where it loses its meaning.

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#279 deactivated-594be627b82ba
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i knew this thread was going to be funny as hell, wow some of you has some good imagination, and for those who put links with real info stop doing it, let the fanboys use there stupidity to make us laugh

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#280 vaderhater
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Well the next EA multiplats shall tell huh?

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#281 adman66
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[QUOTE="dethroned3"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

I doubt 360 is maxed out, but ps3 >360 in power is fact

No, PS3 is NOT more powerfull than 360. They are about the same tecnically

i know it hurts for you to keep hearing at the ps3 > 360.

time to accept it and move on.

in the end, it's all about the games right?

yup ps3 has better processor overall 360 gpu better overall looks basically the same to me, o wait you must be refering to sony's e3(2005 was it....) 2 petaflop performance vs 360 1petaflop. an d you must keep thinking that is real world performance under all circomstances.....
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#283 Supa__Mario
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LOL it seems pretty clear now .......................... PS3, THE MOST POWERFUL GAME CONSOLE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OUT-DATE XBOX 360. Lems denial is strong in this thread.Foxhound_spy
the just wont accept it....no matter what the ps3 does, they will expect the 360 to do the same.....and when it constantly doesnt, they think its because devs dont put the time and effort into it.......lol....
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#284 pyromaniac223
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[QUOTE="Foxhound_spy"]LOL it seems pretty clear now .......................... PS3, THE MOST POWERFUL GAME CONSOLE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OUT-DATE XBOX 360. Lems denial is strong in this thread.Supa__Mario
the just wont accept it....no matter what the ps3 does, they will expect the 360 to do the same.....and when it constantly doesnt, they think its because devs dont put the time and effort into it.......lol....

Once MS gives a dev team the KZ2 budget and the KZ2 dev cycle, and they fail to come up with something comparable, then I will believe that the PS3 is significantly more powerful.
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#285 Trigger_Hppy
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Oh, this all makes sense now. You see, I was playing on my 360 just now, and I felt like something was... off. Its just the fact that it was maxed out. Geez, I feel like a silly billy for worrying so much, I was even searching for my warranty...

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#286 XxSTILL_BORNxX
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The only thing im waiting for now is developers saying, PC maxed out.
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#287 HarryCrackage
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Funny how the tables have turned from last gen. The Xbox was clearly more powerful than the PS2, but the PS2 had a vastly superior game library. This gen, the PS3 is arguably more powerful than the 360, while the 360 has the arguably superior library. Both consoles are much closer this gen so both factions should feel satisfied. Of course, the fanboys still have to have their pissing contests. Oh well, piss away boys!

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#288 furomaster_99
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[QUOTE="Foxhound_spy"]LOL it seems pretty clear now .......................... PS3, THE MOST POWERFUL GAME CONSOLE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OUT-DATE XBOX 360. Lems denial is strong in this thread.Supa__Mario
the just wont accept it....no matter what the ps3 does, they will expect the 360 to do the same.....and when it constantly doesnt, they think its because devs dont put the time and effort into it.......lol....

MS gets an A+ for brainwashing this gen.

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#289 immortality20
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Yep, there we have it, console war over. :roll:

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#290 SpinoRaptor24
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Just because it's maxed out doesn't mean it can't produce quality games anymore.

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#291 -DrRobotnik-
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"Patrick Soderlund, Senior VP of EA Games Europe, seems to think that Microsoft walked away from E3 a winner, while Sony fell short of the mark. Claiming that Xbox 360 is "maxed out," the Electronic Arts man was more than satisfied with the hot announcements made for the system."

So there we have it cows, since you're taking his word as gospel, i guess its confirmed that Microsoft won E3. Better luck next year...

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#292 SW_modified
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That isn't what Crytek said.
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#293 def_mode
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lol at fanboys going all defensive.

these EA guys who said xbox is maxed out do have an idea what they are talkin about, they are developers themselves.

what makes you think you know more than they do?

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#294 SW_modified
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lol at fanboys going all defensive.

these EA guys who said xbox is maxed out do have an idea what they are talkin about, they are developers themselves.

what makes you think you know more than they do?

def_mode
Crytek said the PS3 was maxed out. I don't know about you but I'll take their word over EA's.
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#295 D00nut
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Right. I'll believe that when the games show it as well.

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#296 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="drknockboot2"]

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

[QUOTE="drknockboot2"]

Actually, I was watching G4...and they were asking questions about New Super Mario Bros Wii, and they wanted to add voice chat for all 4 players and couldn't. They also wanted to make it online and its not. Looks like the Wii is tapped out.

thats not so much the hardware (the wii) as much as its what they are trying to do with the network infrastructure nintendo uses, adding online and 4 player chat doesnt take up on the disc either

If the network infrastructure nintendo uses doesn't allow these things, that would mean that the Wii is maxed out correct? I'm not talking about disc space with the Wii.

You realize if they made a dedicated server for the game they could easily do it, but seriously, whos going to dedicate a server for mario?
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#298 dethroned3
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"Patrick Soderlund, Senior VP of EA Games Europe, seems to think that Microsoft walked away from E3 a winner, while Sony fell short of the mark. Claiming that Xbox 360 is "maxed out," the Electronic Arts man was more than satisfied with the hot announcements made for the system."

So there we have it cows, since you're taking his word as gospel, i guess its confirmed that Microsoft won E3. Better luck next year...

-DrRobotnik-

err... you missed out this bit.

:)

He does admit that Sony "has a lot of good games this year" and was impressed by the "very consistent, high quality product line-up" that saturated its E3 booth. Still, Microsoft was the clear winner to this man, thanks to the introduction of the ambitious Natal control method.

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#299 stiltzsy
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[QUOTE="xBloodrazorX"]

[QUOTE="HarryCrackage"]

Funny how the tables have turned from last gen. The Xbox was clearly more powerful than the PS2, but the PS2 had a vastly superior game library. This gen, the PS3 is arguably more powerful than the 360, while the 360 has the arguably superior library. Both consoles are much closer this gen so both factions should feel satisfied. Of course, the fanboys still have to have their pissing contests. Oh well, piss away boys!

To common knowledge not to me. I was researching about either to get PS3 or XBOX360 and lose my Wii. But I hear all the crazy names for the PS3 Games: KZ2, Res2, Uncharted, etc, etc.... The I hear Mass effect and Halo and I was like WTF is mass effect. Halo was the only game I knew that was exclusive to Xbox 360 and thats before I turned PseudoCow

Do you like to game on a PC?
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#300 savagetwinkie
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haha, i remember i made a thread like this after gears 2 came out and got flamed. but anyways, i think its kinda maxed out. no really good games since gears 2 or fable 2.

SilverChimera
its been less then 6 months since they've been release, sorry that the ps3 took so long to come out with games that they are all coming out at once[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

This is on par with Crytek saying the PS3 is maxed out.

Truth be told, all engines are going to run differently, and will therefore tax the hardware differently. They will be able to refine engines more and more, and be able to produce something slightly better each time.

Just look to the PS2, with it's early release games, and to FFXII later in release.

No it isn't. Crytek is saying their upcoming game engine is close to maxing out the PS3. I can't remember their exact wording. However, EA is saying the 360 is already maxed out and the PS3 isn't yet.

So the only way Crytek's comments would be "on par" is if they said PS3 is maxed out but 360 isn't. Instead, they didn't talk about the 360 at all.

They said something like, we really can't do any more, we've done all we can with it