EA: Battlefield 3 versus Modern Warfare 3 is most important battle in a decade

[QUOTE="genaroll"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Dont forget sitting in a corner waiting for someone to walk by and then eventually get a Harrier or chopper gunner KS.

Fizzman

Difference is that BF maps are enormous. COD maps is ohh turn the corner same dude that killed me three seconds ago. Tiny little maps that just encourage camping and are designed for it.

designed..more like thats all they make with that crappy engine

same old gameplay from quake with fresh paint and killstreaks

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="genaroll"] Yeah we also shouldn't forget camping at your base for a chopper,or hiding behind a tree dropping mortars at the same spot,or camping at your base for a tank....Oops wrong game thought you were talking about battlefield.butisitbluray

Difference is that BF maps are enormous. COD maps is ohh turn the corner same dude that killed me three seconds ago. Tiny little maps that just encourage camping and are designed for it.

designed..more like thats all they make with that crappy engine

same old gameplay from quake with fresh paint and killstreaks

Paint is very old at this point. Its the same engine that COD2 used.

The game is just a massive milking machine.

very noble going after the monster...but it's a monster for a reason.

I can't wait to come back to all these CoD vs. BF threads in three years time when everyone is bashing Battlefield for being another milked, unoriginal bro-shooter franchise.

PBSnipes

o and this

[QUOTE="genaroll"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Dont forget sitting in a corner waiting for someone to walk by and then eventually get a Harrier or chopper gunner KS.

Fizzman

Difference is that BF maps are enormous. COD maps is ohh turn the corner same dude that killed me three seconds ago. Tiny little maps that just encourage camping and are designed for it.

Camping is not waiting for a vehicle. Dont know why you bothered writing that last part.

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="genaroll"] Yeah we also shouldn't forget camping at your base for a chopper,or hiding behind a tree dropping mortars at the same spot,or camping at your base for a tank....Oops wrong game thought you were talking about battlefield.butisitbluray

Difference is that BF maps are enormous. COD maps is ohh turn the corner same dude that killed me three seconds ago. Tiny little maps that just encourage camping and are designed for it.

designed..more like thats all they make with that crappy engine

same old gameplay from quake with fresh paint and killstreaks

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="genaroll"] Yeah we also shouldn't forget camping at your base for a chopper,or hiding behind a tree dropping mortars at the same spot,or camping at your base for a tank....Oops wrong game thought you were talking about battlefield.genaroll

Difference is that BF maps are enormous. COD maps is ohh turn the corner same dude that killed me three seconds ago. Tiny little maps that just encourage camping and are designed for it.

Camping is not waiting for a vehicle. Dont know why you bothered writing that last part.

Ummm BF2's spawns arent eight feet from your opponents spawn so its not camping. If an enemy comes to my base and wants to try and camp it go for it. YOU WAITING FOR A VEHICLE IN YOUR OWN SPAWN IS NOT CAMPING.

Bad Company 2 had a pretty good spawn system. Enemy could rarely kill you in your own spawn. Isla Incontes and I forget the snowy mountain map.

COD spawn system is just Ohh ok there is an enemy in the next room so you are safe. Or the spawn point had a clear LOS where an enemy could just wait.

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="genaroll"] Yeah we also shouldn't forget camping at your base for a chopper,or hiding behind a tree dropping mortars at the same spot,or camping at your base for a tank....Oops wrong game thought you were talking about battlefield.genaroll

Difference is that BF maps are enormous. COD maps is ohh turn the corner same dude that killed me three seconds ago. Tiny little maps that just encourage camping and are designed for it.

Camping is not waiting for a vehicle. Dont know why you bothered writing that last part.

BF 3 is winning on all fronts, even their marketing is superior at the moment.
However COD is a completely different kind of game which appeals to casual games alot more then BF 3.

Personally I believe that if COD doesn't up the marketing BF 3 wins in sales.

[QUOTE="butisitbluray"]

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Difference is that BF maps are enormous. COD maps is ohh turn the corner same dude that killed me three seconds ago. Tiny little maps that just encourage camping and are designed for it.

001011000101101

designed..more like thats all they make with that crappy engine

same old gameplay from quake with fresh paint and killstreaks

[QUOTE="genaroll"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Difference is that BF maps are enormous. COD maps is ohh turn the corner same dude that killed me three seconds ago. Tiny little maps that just encourage camping and are designed for it.

Camping is not waiting for a vehicle. Dont know why you bothered writing that last part.

Fizzman

Ummm BF2's spawns arent eight feet from your opponents spawn so its not camping. If an enemy comes to my base and wants to try and camp it go for it. YOU WAITING FOR A VEHICLE IN YOUR OWN SPAWN IS NOT CAMPING.

Bad Company 2 had a pretty good spawn system. Enemy could rarely kill you in your own spawn. Isla Incontes and I forget the snowy mountain map.

COD spawn system is just Ohh ok there is an enemy in the next room so you are safe. Or the spawn point had a clear LOS where an enemy could just wait.

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="genaroll"] Staying at your spawn sniping until a vehicle shows up isn't camping?Also would you rather be killed by some sitting in a corner that can easily be stunned or by someone sitting at their spawn waiting for a chopper that would be too much trouble to kill.genaroll

Ummm BF2's spawns arent eight feet from your opponents spawn so its not camping. If an enemy comes to my base and wants to try and camp it go for it. YOU WAITING FOR A VEHICLE IN YOUR OWN SPAWN IS NOT CAMPING.

Bad Company 2 had a pretty good spawn system. Enemy could rarely kill you in your own spawn. Isla Incontes and I forget the snowy mountain map.

COD spawn system is just Ohh ok there is an enemy in the next room so you are safe. Or the spawn point had a clear LOS where an enemy could just wait.

Mortar spamming isnt on the same level of the absurdity that encompasses KS rewards like in COD. The area of effect with mortars is pretty small and if you the mortar person can see you then you can see him and kill him. I played BC2 for a very long time and never died to mortar strikes on a consistent basis. Spawn trapping only works if you are undermanned or are playing with dumb people, and COD has the monopolyon dumb players.

hmm i would have thought WoW vs. SW:TOR might have been more importantLed_poison

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="genaroll"] Staying at your spawn sniping until a vehicle shows up isn't camping?Also would you rather be killed by some sitting in a corner that can easily be stunned or by someone sitting at their spawn waiting for a chopper that would be too much trouble to kill.genaroll

Ummm BF2's spawns arent eight feet from your opponents spawn so its not camping. If an enemy comes to my base and wants to try and camp it go for it. YOU WAITING FOR A VEHICLE IN YOUR OWN SPAWN IS NOT CAMPING.

Bad Company 2 had a pretty good spawn system. Enemy could rarely kill you in your own spawn. Isla Incontes and I forget the snowy mountain map.

COD spawn system is just Ohh ok there is an enemy in the next room so you are safe. Or the spawn point had a clear LOS where an enemy could just wait.

Mortar spamming < killstreak spamming
Circle srafing < dropshotting
spawn trapping < worst spawn system ever designed
BF perks are crap, i agree.

MW3 single player didn't look bad but as an all round package, BF3 is where it's at.

MW3 single player didn't look bad but as an all round package, BF3 is where it's at.

LazyMushroom

MW3 story is now three hours long. THREE EPIC HOURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Paint is very old at this point. Its the same engine that COD2 used.

The game is just a massive milking machine.

Fizzman

[QUOTE="LazyMushroom"]

MW3 single player didn't look bad but as an all round package, BF3 is where it's at.

Fizzman

MW3 story is now three hours long. THREE EPIC HOURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[QUOTE="genaroll"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Ummm BF2's spawns arent eight feet from your opponents spawn so its not camping. If an enemy comes to my base and wants to try and camp it go for it. YOU WAITING FOR A VEHICLE IN YOUR OWN SPAWN IS NOT CAMPING.

Bad Company 2 had a pretty good spawn system. Enemy could rarely kill you in your own spawn. Isla Incontes and I forget the snowy mountain map.

COD spawn system is just Ohh ok there is an enemy in the next room so you are safe. Or the spawn point had a clear LOS where an enemy could just wait.

Fizzman

Mortar spamming isnt on the same level of the absurdity that encompasses KS rewards like in COD. The area of effect with mortars is pretty small and if you the mortar person can see you then you can see him and kill him. I played BC2 for a very long time and never died to mortar strikes on a consistent basis. Spawn trapping only works if you are undermanned or are playing with dumb people, and COD has the monopolyon dumb players.

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="genaroll"] You have alot of excuses,so try to make mortar spamming.circle strafing,spawn trapping,and the newly added perks to the list of excuses for bc2 and battlefield 3.genaroll

Mortar spamming isnt on the same level of the absurdity that encompasses KS rewards like in COD. The area of effect with mortars is pretty small and if you the mortar person can see you then you can see him and kill him. I played BC2 for a very long time and never died to mortar strikes on a consistent basis. Spawn trapping only works if you are undermanned or are playing with dumb people, and COD has the monopolyon dumb players.

By the same logic a tard can get a Copper gunner in COD and only a pro can fly a chopper....
And yes i play BO and BFBC 2 aswell.

Both are great shooters...but CoD has been around longer and has a better reputation. Better game overall.Ratatak2

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!

COD - Release Date: Oct 29, 2003

BF1942 - Release Date: Sep 10, 2002

[QUOTE="Ratatak2"]Both are great shooters...but CoD has been around longer and has a better reputation. Better game overall.Fizzman

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!

COD - Release Date: Oct 29, 2003

BF1942 - Release Date: Sep 10, 2002

No rehashes, actual good gameplay. Battlefield 3 won this battle before it began.

argetlam00

[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

No rehashes, actual good gameplay. Battlefield 3 won this battle before it began.

Mr_Cumberdale

.

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="Ratatak2"]Both are great shooters...but CoD has been around longer and has a better reputation. Better game overall.CwlHeddwyn

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!

COD - Release Date: Oct 29, 2003

BF1942 - Release Date: Sep 10, 2002

I thought the original COD was the best COD game I have ever played. It wasnt mainstream, but It was one of the best shooters of its time. COD4 was good and then the wheels fell off. BF1942 was the superior game though compared to COD. Strike at Karkand and Wake Island was hundreds of hours of fun.

[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

No rehashes, actual good gameplay. Battlefield 3 won this battle before it began.

Mr_Cumberdale

Except it isn't. At all. And it's not even a fight. Call of Duty will crush it in sales.

I think both games will be great. It's obviously trendy to hate on COD, and people seem to always want an antagonist, but I don't fall into that.

What disappoints me is the constant cheap shots at IW / COD that DICE and EA take. Like, do they not have respect for their fellow developers? Stop being a lil' b**** and just do you! It's like they're jealous of their success. I understand they're the competition, but Battlefield's presence and fanbase is respectable. Battlefield is respected and praised; you guys make awesome games (SP for Bad Company 2 was the worst of its kind in recent years, though, lol).

Edit: Battlefield should sell better than it ever has, but I don't see it crushing Call of Duty in any way. I still want to see some console foogate of BF3, too.

MW3 - The Russians are invading USA and are using AK 47's.

derp.

MW3 lost.

I think both games will be great. It's obviously trendy to hate on COD, and people seem to always want an antagonist, but I don't fall into that.

What disappoints me is the constant cheap shots at IW / COD that DICE and EA take. Like, do they not have respect for them fellow developers? Stop being a lil' b**** and just do you! It's like they're jealous of their success. I understand they're the competition, but Battlefield's presence and fanbase is respectable. Battlefield is respected and praised; you guys make awesome games (SP for Bad Company 2 was the worst of its kind in recent years, though, lol).

Episode_Eve

Respect a company that charges for stat tracking..........no thanks.

I think both games will be great. It's obviously trendy to hate on COD, and people seem to always want an antagonist, but I don't fall into that.

What disappoints me is the constant cheap shots at IW / COD that DICE and EA take. Like, do they not have respect for them fellow developers? Stop being a lil' b**** and just do you! It's like they're jealous of their success. I understand they're the competition, but Battlefield's presence and fanbase is respectable. Battlefield is respected and praised; you guys make awesome games (SP for Bad Company 2 was the worst of its kind in recent years, though, lol).

Episode_Eve

Actvision would be doing the exact same thing..it's all for the marketing and hype.

[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

No rehashes, actual good gameplay. Battlefield 3 won this battle before it began.

Mr_Cumberdale

Seriously?

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]

I think both games will be great. It's obviously trendy to hate on COD, and people seem to always want an antagonist, but I don't fall into that.

What disappoints me is the constant cheap shots at IW / COD that DICE and EA take. Like, do they not have respect for them fellow developers? Stop being a lil' b**** and just do you! It's like they're jealous of their success. I understand they're the competition, but Battlefield's presence and fanbase is respectable. Battlefield is respected and praised; you guys make awesome games (SP for Bad Company 2 was the worst of its kind in recent years, though, lol).

Fizzman

Respect a company that charges for stat tracking..........no thanks.

I think both games will be great. It's obviously trendy to hate on COD, and people seem to always want an antagonist, but I don't fall into that.

What disappoints me is the constant cheap shots at IW / COD that DICE and EA take. Like, do they not have respect for them fellow developers? Stop being a lil' b**** and just do you! It's like they're jealous of their success. I understand they're the competition, but Battlefield's presence and fanbase is respectable. Battlefield is respected and praised; you guys make awesome games (SP for Bad Company 2 was the worst of its kind in recent years, though, lol).

Episode_Eve

MW3 - The Russians are invading USA and are using AK 47's.

derp.

MW3 lost.

GeneralShowzer

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]

I think both games will be great. It's obviously trendy to hate on COD, and people seem to always want an antagonist, but I don't fall into that.

What disappoints me is the constant cheap shots at IW / COD that DICE and EA take. Like, do they not have respect for them fellow developers? Stop being a lil' b**** and just do you! It's like they're jealous of their success. I understand they're the competition, but Battlefield's presence and fanbase is respectable. Battlefield is respected and praised; you guys make awesome games (SP for Bad Company 2 was the worst of its kind in recent years, though, lol).

timmy00

Respect a company that charges for stat tracking..........no thanks.

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/40356/call-of-duty-elite-explained

I was half joking with the stat tracking charge, but they are charging for stuff that should be free.

Except it isn't. At all. And it's not even a fight. Call of Duty will crush it in sales.

DarkLink77

The bets are will MW3 out sell Blackops... Think it will. But I dont really care about sales, from the gameplay I have seen for BF3 MP I think it looks fantastic, I'm liking the maps I'm seeing. For MW3 I would have liked to see some MP, but the SP I saw looked great very over the top.

[QUOTE="butisitbluray"]

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Difference is that BF maps are enormous. COD maps is ohh turn the corner same dude that killed me three seconds ago. Tiny little maps that just encourage camping and are designed for it.

001011000101101

designed..more like thats all they make with that crappy engine

same old gameplay from quake with fresh paint and killstreaks

oh i see you are one of those smart people

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]

I think both games will be great. It's obviously trendy to hate on COD, and people seem to always want an antagonist, but I don't fall into that.

What disappoints me is the constant cheap shots at IW / COD that DICE and EA take. Like, do they not have respect for their fellow developers? Stop being a lil' b**** and just do you! It's like they're jealous of their success. I understand they're the competition, but Battlefield's presence and fanbase is respectable. Battlefield is respected and praised; you guys make awesome games (SP for Bad Company 2 was the worst of its kind in recent years, though, lol).

Edit: Battlefield should sell better than it ever has, but I don't see it crushing Call of Duty in any way. I still want to see some console foogate of BF3, too.

Fizzman

Respect a company that charges for stat tracking..........no thanks.

I said "developer". But, still, I haven't read anything where Activision will be charging for stat tracking.

Here's what Elite will be offering for free:

• Access Elite through the web as well as Elite's free custom iOS and Android applications for smartphones and tablets
• Communicate any way you want across mobile, console and the web with your friends
• Track and share thousands of stats with friends – k/d ratios, score-per-minute, win % and loads more, all represented in easy to understand charts and infographics
• Create your own custom leaderboards to track friendly rivalries – who is moving up and down in your group of friends?
• Analyze advanced heat maps detailing your match-by-match performance – where you killed or got killed, when it happened, and more
• Analyze your weapons performance – which weapons you are best with in which situations
• Upload and share videos of your greatest moments through our exclusive theater mode with the touch of a button
• After you analyze your performance to your heart's content - Customize your loadout – search through all the weapons, attachments and perks, and push them directly into the game menu from the web or your mobile device with the touch of a button
• Join dozens of groups and find other players with common interests to play with and compete against – find people who make the game the most fun for you – TDM, Lakers' fans, Weekend Warriors?
• Create a private Clan with players who share your interests and skill level
• Bring your Facebook friends right into the game, easily taking your existing network into the Call of Duty experience.
• Seamlessly be placed into matches into Groups who share your affinities and interests based on your Facebook profile to elevate your in-game experience.
• Career? Start tracking your Call of Duty career – everything you wanted to know about your performance across the franchise starting with Black Ops.

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]

I think both games will be great. It's obviously trendy to hate on COD, and people seem to always want an antagonist, but I don't fall into that.

What disappoints me is the constant cheap shots at IW / COD that DICE and EA take. Like, do they not have respect for them fellow developers? Stop being a lil' b**** and just do you! It's like they're jealous of their success. I understand they're the competition, but Battlefield's presence and fanbase is respectable. Battlefield is respected and praised; you guys make awesome games (SP for Bad Company 2 was the worst of its kind in recent years, though, lol).

DarkLink77

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Respect a company that charges for stat tracking..........no thanks.

Fizzman

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/40356/call-of-duty-elite-explained

Seems like most of it is free. :?

From a business standpoint, this isn't a clash of titans. It's going to be a massacre when sales are compared. MW3 will slaughter BF3 and that's what investors care about at the end of the day. For us gamers, we'll get to enjoy two very entertaining games.SuperNecro

haha...2

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Except it isn't. At all. And it's not even a fight. Call of Duty will crush it in sales.

GeneralShowzer

The bolded is a maybe.

And you don't have to tell me about the difference in quality between Battlefield and Call of Duty, man trust me. I'm just sayin'.

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]

I think both games will be great. It's obviously trendy to hate on COD, and people seem to always want an antagonist, but I don't fall into that.

What disappoints me is the constant cheap shots at IW / COD that DICE and EA take. Like, do they not have respect for their fellow developers? Stop being a lil' b**** and just do you! It's like they're jealous of their success. I understand they're the competition, but Battlefield's presence and fanbase is respectable. Battlefield is respected and praised; you guys make awesome games (SP for Bad Company 2 was the worst of its kind in recent years, though, lol).

Edit: Battlefield should sell better than it ever has, but I don't see it crushing Call of Duty in any way. I still want to see some console foogate of BF3, too.

DarkLink77

You know, I have faith in IW's future. Like I've mentioned before, they received over 5,000 employment applications since the fallout (def. more by now). I'm sure they have / will staff the studio with great talent.

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="timmy00"]Neither Dice or IW charge for stat tracking.

timmy00

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/40356/call-of-duty-elite-explained

Seems like most of it is free. :?

The fact that they plan to charge for something is ridiculous. Milking machine is at maximum milkage level. Bungie.net offers even more services and features and they have never charged.