LMAO at thinking NBA Live is even around anymore.LOL no Madden, Tiger Woods, NBA Live or Fifa on WiiU. LOL Wtf WiiU is almost dead already. Its kind of sad though.
Mrmedia01
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LMAO at thinking NBA Live is even around anymore.LOL no Madden, Tiger Woods, NBA Live or Fifa on WiiU. LOL Wtf WiiU is almost dead already. Its kind of sad though.
Mrmedia01
Not good, Nintendo need to sort this relationship. They can't keep pissing off publishers and developers.
Remember when they had problems with Square soft when Square were still important.
I'm starting to think maybe it's Nintendos fault 3rd parties aren't interested. 3rd parties don't have a problem with anyone else.
Then again, why is their 3rd party support good on handhelds. It's a little confusing.
Not good, Nintendo need to sort this relationship. They can't keep pissing off publishers and developers.
Remember when they had problems with Square soft when Square were still important.
I'm starting to think maybe it's Nintendos fault 3rd parties aren't interested. 3rd parties don't have a problem with anyone else.
Then again, why is their 3rd party support good on handhelds. It's a little confusing.
HalcyonScarlet
They're third party support is only good in japan. Western developers don't care at all about the 3ds.
[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]Link, I don't believe EVERYONE hates Nintendo. I know they have their fans, but with all the "doom and gloom" articles as well as getting into gamer related controversies as much as EA, Activision, and Capcom does, I'm just finding it harder to believe. The severe backdraft (based on what I first witnessed) I saw the GameCube get that gen really makes me iffy (as well as reading a certain website and blogger maybe a bit too much).[QUOTE="StaticOnTV"] How about publish a game people actually wanted to play, only to announce it and that same game is now wanted dead?
[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]
All of your posts are about poor Nintendo and how everyone hates on them for everything, no matter what they do.
Get a grip on reality, dude.
locopatho
Even I don't defend Nintendo on everything. In fact, didn't you criticize me for calling the Pandora's Tower release "too little, too late"? I'm sorry to get on you like this, but...
The doom and gloom articles are based on solid facts and evidence tho. Say that guy losing all his VC games cos the massive update bricked his console. That's not bias or hate, that's reporting the facts of how far behind Nintendo are in those respects. That couldn't and wouldn't happen on a 360 or PS3. It's reality, not conspiracy. If their dam system worked, there'd be no negative article. http://kotaku.com/5983360/nintendo-fan-is-happy-with-nintendos-620-answer-to-his-570-wii-u-problem No ;) That kid made a mistake[QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"] To my knowledge, no game supports more than one tablet.trollop_scat
That's what I remember reading too. If that is the case, it makes perfect sense not to make sports games for Wii U because playing your friends in one place is what makes them fun. Playing people on-line is cool too, but playing your buddies at your house with a case of beer and non-stop smack talk is what makes sports games fun. Third party co-op action games will also skip the Wii U. What a disaster of a system...Â
The WiiU supports 2 tablets. But since no game supports that feature, the WiiU gamepad isn't currently sold individuallyNobody wants those garbage sports games anyway. YoshiYogurtwhat bout people who enjoy sports games,its a bummer for them.
[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]
Not good, Nintendo need to sort this relationship. They can't keep pissing off publishers and developers.
Remember when they had problems with Square soft when Square were still important.
I'm starting to think maybe it's Nintendos fault 3rd parties aren't interested. 3rd parties don't have a problem with anyone else.
Then again, why is their 3rd party support good on handhelds. It's a little confusing.
Wild_man_22
They're third party support is only good in japan. Western developers don't care at all about the 3ds.
ahh good point.
Who cares? Madden sucks now anyway. Not having EA isn't system killer. Hopefully EA goes bankrupt soon.TheWalkingGhostLOL That's so sad. Ask SEGA if not having EA is no big deal.
Nobody wants those garbage sports games anyway. YoshiYogurtTell that to the millions of buyer who buys Madden on a yearly basis.
Sports games on a console who's best racing sim is mario kart? What will happen when the next gen consoles come out? Even gets worse in the future. Might as well pukll the wiiuniversity from the Western market, we clearly have no interest.
Tell that to the millions of buyer who buys Madden on a yearly basis.[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"]Nobody wants those garbage sports games anyway. DivineSword
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NHL 13 is out of this world!!!!!!!! A masterpiece!!!!!!
The Wii U is a cruel joke. I admit. I did somewhat enjoy it when I did have it but the only thing I played for it was games that were already out on the other systems. Now Rayman Legends is multiplat so there is NO SENSE having a Wii U. lOOK AT THIS LIST.
EA Sports
Metro Last Light
Tomb Raider
Bioshock Infinite
DMC Devil May Cry
Resident Evil 6
GTA 5
Borderlands 2
South Park RPG
Grid 2
Crysis 3
Splinter Cell
All recently released or set to be released and all skipping the Wii U. And the only sequals announced or out on the Wii U are more Mario and Zelda, lame ass Pikmin, The cool looking Lego game, The Wonderful 101 which will be a sales disaster and looks pretty lame anyways, and Mario Kart and Smash Brothers which I love both but can live without.
This isn't even all of the games not coming to the Wi U not to mention the new systems from Sony and Microsoft. Nintendo needs to just say "Yup....we ****** up and release a newer system and let Wii U owners trade up for cheap or the Wii U will be a bigger disaster than the Gamecube.
[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"][QUOTE="locopatho"] Cos storage is dirt cheap, and last gen consoles come with hundreds on board. Not to mention WiiU has USB 2.0, which isn't very good for streaming games/data off.locopathoStorage is dirt cheap. You can find a 500 GB external hard drive for about $50. Instead, you can purchase a proprietary Xbox 360 250 GB hard drive for $70. 32 GB for the Playstation Vita runs $100. A non-proprietary 32 GB SD card runs $20. The proprietary storage sold by Microsoft and Sony runs 2-5x the cost on the open market. Why shouldn't we be praising companies for putting out systems that can use non-proprietary storage, do not require installations, do not support online passes, and present good to God honest business practices in an age where everyone else in this industry does not? I would be more likely to purchase the next X-Box for $100 less than it ends up being if it came with no hard drive and let me use the hard drive of my choice to store my games. Both PS3 and 360 support non proprietary storage. And as I said, USB 2.0 is too slow to be effective for streaming data. A built in harddrive is much better for streaming games. (saves would be fine)
USB 2.0 is too slow to transfer huge data loads. When I have to move 100GB it can take around 1hr. But when USB 2.0 switches from bulk transfer mode to streaming mode (isochronous mode), it's actually really capable. Especially when the host controller doesn't have to share with many other devices.
I'm streaming Crysis on the 360 over USB 2.0 Patriot XT USB stick. Also the Wii U is designed to play games off the disc, you don't install them as far as I know. And the disc drive streams no where near as well as USB 2.0 in streaming mode.
USB 2.0 is fine for the Wii U, apart from the times when you'll be moving bulk data such as a big game bought from the e shop or whatever it's called, from the system storage to USB storage. But that might not be a problem if it downloads directly to the USB storage.
The only reason i'd like USB 3.0 is to save me time when i'm moving massive files over USB, otherwise i'm happy with USB 2.0.
Technically, Firewire 400 would be suitable for the Wii U, as it would stay at it's higher speed consistently of nearly 50MB/sec. It's good for streaming and decent at transfer. It's just not supported well.
Nobody wants those garbage sports games anyway. YoshiYogurtExplain why sports games are constantly top sellers then.
But... Aliens...The Wii U is a cruel joke. I admit. I did somewhat enjoy it when I did have it but the only thing I played for it was games that were already out on the other systems. Now Rayamn Legends is multiplat so there is NO SENSE having a Wii U. lOOK AT THIS LIST.
EA Sports
Metro Last Light
Tomb Raider
Bioshock Infinite
DMC Devil May Cry
Resident Evil 6
GTA 5
Borderlands 2
South Park RPG
Grid 2
Crysis 3
Splinter Cell
All recently released or set to be released and all skipping the Wii U. And the only sequals announced or out on the Wii U are more Mario and Zelda, lame ass Pikmin, The cool looking Lego game, The Wonderful 101 which will be a sales disaster and looks pretty lame anyways, and Mario Kart and Smash Brothers which I love both but can live without.
This isn't even all of the games not coming to the Wi U not to mention the new systems from Sony and Microsoft. Nintendo needs to just say "Yup....we ****** up and release a newer system and let Wii U owners trade up for cheap or the Wii U will be a bigger disaster than the Gamecube.
timbers_WSU
Lets not forget about the Fifa series.NHL 13 is out of this world!!!!!!!! A masterpiece!!!!!!
percuvius2
MLB2k13 is also skipping the U.fernandmondego_Nintendo will make a Mario Baseball game that is better than that garbage.
[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"]MLB2k13 is also skipping the U.PurpleMan5000Nintendo will make a Mario Baseball game that is better than that garbage.OK
Lets not forget about the Fifa series.[QUOTE="percuvius2"]
NHL 13 is out of this world!!!!!!!! A masterpiece!!!!!!
DivineSword
I wouldn't be able to tear my friends away from that. I imagine it would be a game changer for them on what console they own.
Lets not forget about the Fifa series.[QUOTE="DivineSword"]
[QUOTE="percuvius2"]
NHL 13 is out of this world!!!!!!!! A masterpiece!!!!!!
HalcyonScarlet
I wouldn't be able to tear my friends away from that. I imagine it would be a game changer for them on what console they own.
FIFA is a big loss. It's the only good franchise EA still makes, other than maybe their NHL games.Because local multiplayer is impossible on the system right? :roll:[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"][QUOTE="trollop_scat"]
That's what I remember reading too. If that is the case, it makes perfect sense not to make sports games for Wii U
trollop_scat
So local multi-player is possible, but only one guy gets to use a tablet controller?
Like I said earlier, I don't have a Wii U so I'm not sure about this - I was asking sheep for confirmation. Is there a current Wii U game with local multi-player?
SUPER MARIO BROS U, 4xWiimote 1x tablet
Meh......Some people like games I don't. Boo hoo!!!Meh sport games.
timmy00
Like it or not this news effects the Wii U way more than JRPG's or RTS games will.
You know, I don't think EA being hesitant with Nintendo is that big of a deal because EA never had that big of a base on Nintendo consoles unlike SEGA did on the Genesis. Looking in past history, the SNES (which everyone is said to love mind you) didn't have that many Madden players, while the SEGA Genesis did, so it's a bigger loss for SEGA during the Dreamcast era, unlike Nintendo here.
And again, in the GameCube era, EA (as well as Nintendo) tried a similar practice to Namco (I know it's a different game in a different genre, but bear with me) with not one, but two of their arcade sports games and the payback did not work out for them. Heck, I even remember seeing the GameCube versions of those games being advertised on Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network.
You wouldn't think it's a big deal.You know, I don't think EA being hesitant with Nintendo is that big of a deal because EA never had that big of a base on Nintendo consoles unlike SEGA did on the Genesis. Looking in past history, the SNES (which everyone is said to love mind you) didn't have that many Madden players, while the SEGA Genesis did, so it's a bigger loss for SEGA during the Dreamcast era, unlike Nintendo here.
And again, in the GameCube era, EA (as well as Nintendo) tried a similar practice to Namco (I know it's a different game in a different genre, but bear with me) with not one, but two of their arcade sports games and the payback did not work out for them. Heck, I even remember seeing the GameCube versions of those games being advertised on Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network.
nintendoboy16
You wouldn't think it's a big deal.It depends on the circumstances with the companies.[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]
You know, I don't think EA being hesitant with Nintendo is that big of a deal because EA never had that big of a base on Nintendo consoles unlike SEGA did on the Genesis. Looking in past history, the SNES (which everyone is said to love mind you) didn't have that many Madden players, while the SEGA Genesis did, so it's a bigger loss for SEGA during the Dreamcast era, unlike Nintendo here.
And again, in the GameCube era, EA (as well as Nintendo) tried a similar practice to Namco (I know it's a different game in a different genre, but bear with me) with not one, but two of their arcade sports games and the payback did not work out for them. Heck, I even remember seeing the GameCube versions of those games being advertised on Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network.
fernandmondego_
You wouldn't think it's a big deal.It depends on the circumstances with the companies. Go back to the GC days, there was long periods of time when all it would get is EA games and nothing else. Now without EA could get pretty ugly.[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"]
[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]
You know, I don't think EA being hesitant with Nintendo is that big of a deal because EA never had that big of a base on Nintendo consoles unlike SEGA did on the Genesis. Looking in past history, the SNES (which everyone is said to love mind you) didn't have that many Madden players, while the SEGA Genesis did, so it's a bigger loss for SEGA during the Dreamcast era, unlike Nintendo here.
And again, in the GameCube era, EA (as well as Nintendo) tried a similar practice to Namco (I know it's a different game in a different genre, but bear with me) with not one, but two of their arcade sports games and the payback did not work out for them. Heck, I even remember seeing the GameCube versions of those games being advertised on Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network.
nintendoboy16
[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]It depends on the circumstances with the companies. Go back to the GC days, there was long periods of time when all it would get is EA games and nothing else. Now without EA could get pretty ugly. And how many GameCube owners bought most of those those EA games? Not many if I recall.[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"]You wouldn't think it's a big deal.
fernandmondego_
[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]It depends on the circumstances with the companies.nintendoboy16Go back to the GC days, there was long periods of time when all it would get is EA games and nothing else. Now without EA could get pretty ugly. And how many GameCube owners bought those EA games?Plenty, at times it was there only option.
[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="fernandmondego_"] Go back to the GC days, there was long periods of time when all it would get is EA games and nothing else. Now without EA could get pretty ugly.fernandmondego_And how many GameCube owners bought those EA games?Plenty, at times it was there only option. "Plenty" is not good enough. Not many people talked about Madden, SSX, Sims, etc on the GameCube.
The only EA games that I recall that were popular among GameCube owners were James Bond and Lord of the Rings.
Plenty, at times it was there only option. "Plenty" is not good enough. Not many people talked about Madden, SSX, Sims, etc on the GameCube.[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] And how many GameCube owners bought those EA games?nintendoboy16
The only EA games that I recall that were popular among GameCube owners were James Bond and Lord of the Rings.
And now they don't even get those. No EA, no T2, who knows how much support it will get once the other 2 consoles release and they cant just make a cheap port.Who plays sports games anyway?King_Dodongoa t on. but NHL and Fifa are the only "decent" ones by EA. nba 2k is another really well done sport game too.
Lets not forget about the Fifa series.[QUOTE="percuvius2"]
NHL 13 is out of this world!!!!!!!! A masterpiece!!!!!!
DivineSword
Might have to play it, now that my Whitecaps are in there!
[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"]MLB2k13 is also skipping the U.PurpleMan5000Nintendo will make a Mario Baseball game that is better than that garbage.
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I'll bring my quarters!
Meh sport games.
timmy00
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Sports aren't for anime fans, that's for sure! Not many emo's at hockey games.
Both PS3 and 360 support non proprietary storage. And as I said, USB 2.0 is too slow to be effective for streaming data. A built in harddrive is much better for streaming games. (saves would be fine)[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"] Storage is dirt cheap. You can find a 500 GB external hard drive for about $50. Instead, you can purchase a proprietary Xbox 360 250 GB hard drive for $70. 32 GB for the Playstation Vita runs $100. A non-proprietary 32 GB SD card runs $20. The proprietary storage sold by Microsoft and Sony runs 2-5x the cost on the open market. Why shouldn't we be praising companies for putting out systems that can use non-proprietary storage, do not require installations, do not support online passes, and present good to God honest business practices in an age where everyone else in this industry does not? I would be more likely to purchase the next X-Box for $100 less than it ends up being if it came with no hard drive and let me use the hard drive of my choice to store my games.HalcyonScarlet
USB 2.0 is too slow to transfer huge data loads. When I have to move 100GB it can take around 1hr. But when USB 2.0 switches from bulk transfer mode to streaming mode (isochronous mode), it's actually really capable. Especially when the host controller doesn't have to share with many other devices.
I'm streaming Crysis on the 360 over USB 2.0 Patriot XT USB stick. Also the Wii U is designed to play games off the disc, you don't install them as far as I know. And the disc drive streams no where near as well as USB 2.0 in streaming mode.
USB 2.0 is fine for the Wii U, apart from the times when you'll be moving bulk data such as a big game bought from the e shop or whatever it's called, from the system storage to USB storage. But that might not be a problem if it downloads directly to the USB storage.
The only reason i'd like USB 3.0 is to save me time when i'm moving massive files over USB, otherwise i'm happy with USB 2.0.
Technically, Firewire 400 would be suitable for the Wii U, as it would stay at it's higher speed consistently of nearly 50MB/sec. It's good for streaming and decent at transfer. It's just not supported well.
Thats interesting. I didn;t think 20MB per second would be enough for modern games, but apparently it is?Yet, are they enough to justify it as "doomed", especially when their damn system has been out for far less than a year? I admit their systems have flaws, but just because an accident happens, doesn't mean Nintendo is doomed. It's blowing things way out of purportion and doing that isn't fair at all. Even so, you have to admit these articles are based on legit complaints and not made out of thin air. So stop with your silly conspiracy theories. Gamers demanding quality is a GOOD THING, not a bad thing.[QUOTE="locopatho"]The doom and gloom articles are based on solid facts and evidence tho. Say that guy losing all his VC games cos the massive update bricked his console. That's not bias or hate, that's reporting the facts of how far behind Nintendo are in those respects. That couldn't and wouldn't happen on a 360 or PS3. It's reality, not conspiracy. If their dam system worked, there'd be no negative article.nintendoboy16
[QUOTE="trollop_scat"]
[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]Because local multiplayer is impossible on the system right? :roll:aroxx_ab
So local multi-player is possible, but only one guy gets to use a tablet controller?
Like I said earlier, I don't have a Wii U so I'm not sure about this - I was asking sheep for confirmation. Is there a current Wii U game with local multi-player?
SUPER MARIO BROS U, 4xWiimote 1x tablet
Scribblenauts, Black Ops2, ZombiU, Nintendoland, TTT2, Sonic All Stars Racing Transformed and Trine 2 From the top of my head[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]Yet, are they enough to justify it as "doomed", especially when their damn system has been out for far less than a year? I admit their systems have flaws, but just because an accident happens, doesn't mean Nintendo is doomed. It's blowing things way out of purportion and doing that isn't fair at all. Even so, you have to admit these articles are based on legit complaints and not made out of thin air. So stop with your silly conspiracy theories. Gamers demanding quality is a GOOD THING, not a bad thing. There is a limit to how much you can demand though because the world isn't perfect and you can't have everything like you wanted to[QUOTE="locopatho"]The doom and gloom articles are based on solid facts and evidence tho. Say that guy losing all his VC games cos the massive update bricked his console. That's not bias or hate, that's reporting the facts of how far behind Nintendo are in those respects. That couldn't and wouldn't happen on a 360 or PS3. It's reality, not conspiracy. If their dam system worked, there'd be no negative article.locopatho
[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]Yet, are they enough to justify it as "doomed", especially when their damn system has been out for far less than a year? I admit their systems have flaws, but just because an accident happens, doesn't mean Nintendo is doomed. It's blowing things way out of purportion and doing that isn't fair at all. Even so, you have to admit these articles are based on legit complaints and not made out of thin air. So stop with your silly conspiracy theories. Gamers demanding quality is a GOOD THING, not a bad thing.Never said it was. Just feel like certain people can't be pleased.[QUOTE="locopatho"]The doom and gloom articles are based on solid facts and evidence tho. Say that guy losing all his VC games cos the massive update bricked his console. That's not bias or hate, that's reporting the facts of how far behind Nintendo are in those respects. That couldn't and wouldn't happen on a 360 or PS3. It's reality, not conspiracy. If their dam system worked, there'd be no negative article.locopatho
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