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#51 Giancar
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I remember they giving GOW2 a 7 :|
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#52 Lionheart08
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I know different sources are suppose to be subjective, but Edge is on acid considering those scores.

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#53 RuprechtMonkey
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[QUOTE="Arsuz"]

EDGE is harsh but they are mostly very fair. Reading their, usually well written, reviews gives a lot if insight into the scores. Also they use the full scale from 1-10 instead of the more popular 5-10. This means that a 6 from EDGE is still an very good game and shouldn't be compared to a 6 from gamespot.

thom_noa

If getting a 6/10 from EDGE is equal an 8.0 in GameSpot standards? And what about 7/10 which Animal Crossing, Fallout 3, Red Alert 3 got? 8.5 in GameSpot standards? What about 8/10 or 9/10? EDGE's and GameSpot's scores are not compatible.

No one is saying they're compatible, they're saying EDGE is wildly inconsistent.

A review score is to encapsulate the worth of a game at a glance, it's supposed to give a reader an idea of the general quality of a game relative to other scored games.

EDGE just isn't consistent, they so often give very high scores to games that don't deserve it and very low scores to games that do.

EDGE is a dinosaur in the age of digital reviews. They just aren't what they once were, the magazine isn't written as well as it once was and the quality isn't what it once was.

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#54 thom_noa
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I never cared for edge scores. Since they usually suck. After seeing a 6 for resistance their scores are even more laughable. I would have accepted an 8 the lowest. Even the fallout score is ridiculous.

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Have ever read EDGE's reviews before ever saying this or understand that it uses a different rating standard than American publications? EDGE's and GameSpot's scores are not compatible with each other. Think of their standards like between using feet (English) and meters (metric), or miles and kilometers.
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#55 Arsuz
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If getting a 6/10 from EDGE is equal an 8.0 in GameSpot standards? And what about 7/10 which Animal Crossing, Fallout 3, Red Alert 3 got? 8.5 in GameSpot standards? What about 8/10 or 9/10? EDGE's and GameSpot's scores are not compatible.thom_noa

There is no way to translate edge scores to GS scores. You HAVE to read the review. They will be online in a couple of weeks.

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#56 null_is_zero
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WHAT!!!?????? RESISTANCE 2 a 6!!!! :@:@:@:@:@:@:@
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#57 mingo123
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Call of Duty: World at War - 6
Resistance 2 - 6
Mirror's Edge - 5
Left 4 Dead - 9

:| edge is mental, so L4D which should have been an arcade title or a half priced game, is bettr then cod waw, R2 and Mirrors Edge? :lol:

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#58 SecretPolice
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I remember they giving GOW2 a 7 :|Giancar
You may be thinking about the Banjo review getting 7.0 ?
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#59 ZimpanX
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Good score for Tomb Raider: Underworld.
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#60 Darth_DuMas
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[QUOTE="thom_noa"][QUOTE="MarloStanfield"]Edge uses the full scale. So all those games apart from mirrors edge are above average6matt6

Unfortunately, many North Americans fails to see this and impose their American rating standards. Gamerankings.com is guilty as well. EDGE is a British magazine, not an American magazine. It uses a different standard of rating games than American publications. The dismissal of EDGE's scores shows the ignorance of those who do so, eps. since most of them never read the written reviews.

Agreed. Reading is a problem for people at this site.

Who remembers last year when Bioshock scored a 9? 'OMG TEH GAMESPOT IS BIASED BIOSHOCK DIDNT GET A 10'

True, and anything below a 9 here equals teh flopz.

On the subject, im quite shocked at how well TR: Underworld has scored.

Played the demo and am wondering why she swims as fast as a speed boat.

Still im interested now though.

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#61 Couth_
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Edge is officialy worse than OXM
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#62 mingo123
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Edge is officialy worse than OXMCouth_

OXM is one of the best you foo!

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#63 HarlockJC
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Yup, that's what makes EDGE so pathetic.metalgear-solid

Because you have played all those games from start to end and can do a fair comparison? ;)

 

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#64 Couth_
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[QUOTE="Couth_"]Edge is officialy worse than OXMmingo123

OXM is one of the best you foo!

Not when they give Infinite Undiscovery an 8, Dead Space a 6.5, Frontlines a 9 etc etc
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#65 mingo123
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[QUOTE="mingo123"]

[QUOTE="Couth_"]Edge is officialy worse than OXMCouth_

OXM is one of the best you foo!

Not when they give Infinite Undiscovery an 8, Dead Space a 6.5, Frontlines a 9 etc etc[/QUOTE

yeah sometimes they give bad scores but mostly they are better then others

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#66 metalgear-solid
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[QUOTE="metalgear-solid"]Yup, that's what makes EDGE so pathetic.HarlockJC

Because you have played all those games from start to end and can do a fair comparison? ;)

Yeah, enough to tell, for example, that R2 isn't a 6/10 when GeoW2 is a 9/10.
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#67 joopyme
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I can understand why Resistance 2, fallout 3, cod waw and mirrors edge scored so badly

i'm hearing bad things about those games 

MarloStanfield

yes goes to show that, HEARING IS BELIEVING.

 

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#68 loco145
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Spot on.
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#69 Giancar
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[QUOTE="Giancar"]I remember they giving GOW2 a 7 :|SecretPolice
You may be thinking about the Banjo review getting 7.0 ?

Didn't even see that...

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#71 Macutchi
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EDGE is harsh but they are mostly very fair. Reading their, usually well written, reviews gives a lot if insight into the scores.

Arsuz

 

true their reviews are generally well written and the scores they give are fully explained and justified in detail. it is however a magazine which takes itself far too seriously and is badly in need of an injection of wit and humour. some of its contributors are dull beyond belief.

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#72 drj077
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All those scores look about right.
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#73 telefanatic
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I can understand why Resistance 2, fallout 3, cod waw and mirrors edge scored so badly

i'm hearing bad things about those games

MarloStanfield

yeah you always do , i think its time for you to find another forum.

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#74 Giancar
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[QUOTE="MarloStanfield"]

I can understand why Resistance 2, fallout 3, cod waw and mirrors edge scored so badly

i'm hearing bad things about those games

telefanatic

yeah you always do , i think its time for you to find another forum.

yeah the wii forum, he is mostly a sheep after all

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#75 samusarmada
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I really wished this topic didnt appear in system wars. There is no point in posting EDGE scores because practically everyone who doesn't read the magazine calls them crap, as their opinions are usually seen as different. Often you will find that they share the same problems with games that many american publications have; their review for mirrors edge highlighted similar points to the gs review but furthered them and deemed them more damaging to the game as a whole.

I cannot stress enough how well written EDGE reviews are. They always justify why they gave a game the score and they always write reviews that are the highest quality. They surpass most publications in terms of style and writing capability and it saddens me that every month the magazine gets constantly wrecked because people are so judgmental about the games score. EDGE is perhaps the only publication that needs you to read the review as well as look at the tiny, bracket filled number that they place at the end of each game.

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#76 telefanatic
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^^^^^^^Let me guess you work for EDGE ? Shaun White scored higher then Resistance 2 ? Yeah ok.
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#77 samusarmada
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[QUOTE="Arsuz"]

EDGE is harsh but they are mostly very fair. Reading their, usually well written, reviews gives a lot if insight into the scores.

Macutchi

true their reviews are generally well written and the scores they give are fully explained and justified in detail. it is however a magazine which takes itself far too seriously and is badly in need of an injection of wit and humour. some of its contributors are dull beyond belief.

There are plenty of publications out there that are full of humour, not every magazine needs to be full of strange slap stick moments.

Having said that EDGE have developed a rather dry sense of British wit as of late; there reference to resistance 2's big behemoth boss as "insomniacs version of the chewits monster" made me chuckle as did the follwing quote about Gears of War 2:

"When it actually admits to being tongue-in-cheek, the game delivers in spades. When it thinks it's Citizen Kane, things go spectacularly awry. Apparantly Cliffy Bleszinski reckons Clive Owen would make a great Marcus Fenix. A washing machine would arguably make a better one."

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#78 samusarmada
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^^^^^^^Let me guess you work for EDGE ? Shaun White scored higher then Resistance 2 ? Yeah ok.telefanatic

And why shouldnt it score higher. Does resistance automatically deserve to get a better score just because more money has been invested in it, because more hype has surrounded it, because more people are going to buy it, because the game is a "hardcore gamers shooter" whereas Shaun White is some crappy little sports game. No. The games are rated on their own merits and their own failings. You do not look at a film like Toy Stoy and mark it down for not being Schindlers List. The two are not games that can be directly compared.

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#79 loco145
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^^^^^^^Let me guess you work for EDGE ? Shaun White scored higher then Resistance 2 ? Yeah ok.telefanatic
Maybe is a better game? I found R1-2 to be a pretty mediocre fps.
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#80 Al3x_n90
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Alright it's official EDGE reviews=crap
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#81 Giancar
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[QUOTE="telefanatic"]^^^^^^^Let me guess you work for EDGE ? Shaun White scored higher then Resistance 2 ? Yeah ok.loco145
Maybe is a better game? I found R1-2 to be a pretty mediocre fps.

and yet you find every wii game a blast!

and you bought CoD:WAW wii version!

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#82 thegoldenpoo
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maybe edge just hate games?
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#83 loco145
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[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="telefanatic"]^^^^^^^Let me guess you work for EDGE ? Shaun White scored higher then Resistance 2 ? Yeah ok.Giancar

Maybe is a better game? I found R1-2 to be a pretty mediocre fps.

and yet you find every wii game a blast!

and you bought CoD:WAW wii version!

I don't found every game to be a blast, but they are at least different. Why should I play R2 over the other billion FPS out there? I bought CoD:WaW wii version because it feels really nice to use the wii-mote. Also, because it is nothing new is the reason i didn't bought it for PC.
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#84 EVOLV3
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Lol, the people over at EDGE are crazy :P
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#85 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

[QUOTE="metalgear-solid"]Yup, that's what makes EDGE so pathetic.metalgear-solid

Because you have played all those games from start to end and can do a fair comparison? ;)

 

Yeah, enough to tell, for example, that R2 isn't a 6/10 when GeoW2 is a 9/10.

Anyone have an edge with a written reason why it got this score?

 

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#86 stvee101
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I really wished this topic didnt appear in system wars. There is no point in posting EDGE scores because practically everyone who doesn't read the magazine calls them crap, as their opinions are usually seen as different. Often you will find that they share the same problems with games that many american publications have; their review for mirrors edge highlighted similar points to the gs review but furthered them and deemed them more damaging to the game as a whole.

I cannot stress enough how well written EDGE reviews are. They always justify why they gave a game the score and they always write reviews that are the highest quality. They surpass most publications in terms of style and writing capability and it saddens me that every month the magazine gets constantly wrecked because people are so judgmental about the games score. EDGE is perhaps the only publication that needs you to read the review as well as look at the tiny, bracket filled number that they place at the end of each game.

samusarmada

Agreed .

People bashing EDGE who have never once read the magazine need to get a life.This isn't GS guys.Y'Know the site where AAA scores are handed out to just about every half decent FPS.

As many people have mentioned before,Edge uses the full scale.So a game that scores a 5 is NOT a bad game,as difficult as that may be for some of you to comprehend.It just means its average,nothing special.

I totally agree with that R2 score also,I mean how many generic shooters do I have to put up with? The PS2 was never a "shooter console" and that did just fine.

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#87 Wasdie  Moderator
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[QUOTE="MarloStanfield"]

Fallout 3 - 7
Call of Duty: World at War - 6
Resistance 2 - 6
Mirror's Edge - 5
Command & Comnquer: Red Alert 3 - 7Haziqonfire

Is this... backwards town!?! Whaaaaa?!

Yeah those are pretty crazy.

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#88 Jodan77
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They Gave Left 4 Dead a 9!

Looks good for Valve this Christmas. 

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#89 samusarmada
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[QUOTE="metalgear-solid"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

Because you have played all those games from start to end and can do a fair comparison? ;)

HarlockJC

Yeah, enough to tell, for example, that R2 isn't a 6/10 when GeoW2 is a 9/10.

Anyone have an edge with a written reason why it got this score?

They basically call it a game that toutes that it has the largest selection of everything but doesnt really understand what it's supposed to do with them. It talks about how attempting to justify such large battles in the multiplayer mode merely minimise the headache inducing chaos that would ensue if the game had a 60 player all out death match. So the use of the games various small squads essentially makes the game like any other small squad based multiplayer game, making the idea of 60 players rather pointless and unneccesary.

The limitation of having just two weapons limits the players ability to experiment with the games various weapons-this can also leave the player ill-equipped for certain situations. It notes how the game world draws comparisons with the likes of serious sam and CoD4 on veteren: "overpopulated, devoid of pity and lacking common sense".

It is also a game that is described to be overly cruel in terms of skill level. It makes the point that there is little skill involved in fighting enemies that have weaponary that "defy range, ammo and cover. Logically trying to fight your way through the game using the weapons in the way they are designed similarly does not work in the context of the game.

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#90 ejstrup
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R2 got a 6, yet Gears 2 got a 9.. man, Edge reviews are BS.
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#91 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="MarloStanfield"]

Fallout 3 - 7
Call of Duty: World at War - 6
Resistance 2 - 6
Mirror's Edge - 5
Command & Comnquer: Red Alert 3 - 7Wasdie

Is this... backwards town!?! Whaaaaa?!

Yeah those are pretty crazy.

No it just different...It is almost like saying Fallout 3>RofM 2>Mirror's Edge

Do you think that is wrong? Well I have not played any of those games based on some of the other reviews I have read and other scores given out. That seems to be on par. In a way it's better. Because well Fallout 3 got the same score as RFofM 2 on here, who is to know which would be better if you could only buy one game. Of course I would still recommend to read the review and judge for yourself.

My only question for the fanboys on this board is why would they have given GofW 2 so much of a higher score than RFofM 2. Myself I don't plan on buying either any time soon.

 

 

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#92 beerm_basic
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fallout 3 a 7 WHAT THE!!

a bunch of others have harsh scores as well compared to some review sites etc

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#93 RuinedMachine
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I totally agree with that R2 score also,I mean how many generic shooters do I have to put up with? The PS2 was never a "shooter console" and that did just fine.stvee101

G4 - X-Play 5 out of 5 100.0% 
**** Code Central 4.8 out of 5 96.0% 
PSX Extreme 9.5 out of 10 95.0% 
IGN 9.5 out of 10 95.0%
AtomicGamer  92 out of 100 92.0%
NZGamer 9.2 out of 10 92.0%
Gametrailers 9.1 out of 10 91.0% 
Playstation Official Magazine UK 9 out of 10 90.0%
Gaming Age A- 90.0% 
Gamervision 9 out of 10 90.0% 
Da GameBoyz 9 out of 10 90.0%
ZTGameDomain 9 out of 10 90.0% 
Kombo 9 out of 10 90.0% 
UGO  A- 90.0% 
Eurogamer 9 out of 10 90.0% 
GameSpot 9 out of 10 90.0% 
GameZone 9 out of 10 90.0% 
GameSpy 4.5 out of 5 90.0% 
Gameplayer 9 out of 10 90.0% 
Daily Game 8.8 out of 10 88.0%
Gamer 2.0 8.8 out of 10 88.0% 
Ferrago 86 out of 100 86.0%
Game Informer 8.5 out of 10 85.0% 
Game Revolution B+ 85.0%
Kikizo 8.5 out of 10 85.0%
1UP B+ 85.0% 
Fragland 83 out of 100 83.0% 
TotalVideoGames 8 out of 10 80.0% 
VideoGamer 8 out of 10 80.0%
Giant Bomb 4 out of 5 80.0% 
GameDaily 8 out of 10 80.0%
GamePro 4 out of 5 80.0%

 

Yeah gotta hate those generic shooters!

 

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#94 exiledsnake
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I don't know how people can defend edge. Read the review? Going by the scores, they are very inconsistant. An example would be GeoW2 getting a 9 while GeoW got an 8 and resistance 2 getting a 6 while resistance gets a 7? I dont care how well written the review is, scores need to be comparable to each other. LBP gets a 10 and COD WaW gets a 6, does that mean its almost twice better?
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#95 samusarmada
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[QUOTE="stvee101"]I totally agree with that R2 score also,I mean how many generic shooters do I have to put up with? The PS2 was never a "shooter console" and that did just fine.RuinedMachine

G4 - X-Play 5 out of 5 100.0%
**** Code Central 4.8 out of 5 96.0%
PSX Extreme 9.5 out of 10 95.0%
IGN 9.5 out of 10 95.0%
AtomicGamer 92 out of 100 92.0%
NZGamer 9.2 out of 10 92.0%
Gametrailers 9.1 out of 10 91.0%
Playstation Official Magazine UK 9 out of 10 90.0%
Gaming Age A- 90.0%
Gamervision 9 out of 10 90.0%
Da GameBoyz 9 out of 10 90.0%
ZTGameDomain 9 out of 10 90.0%
Kombo 9 out of 10 90.0%
UGO A- 90.0%
Eurogamer 9 out of 10 90.0%
GameSpot 9 out of 10 90.0%
GameZone 9 out of 10 90.0%
GameSpy 4.5 out of 5 90.0%
Gameplayer 9 out of 10 90.0%
Daily Game 8.8 out of 10 88.0%
Gamer 2.0 8.8 out of 10 88.0%
Ferrago 86 out of 100 86.0%
Game Informer 8.5 out of 10 85.0%
Game Revolution B+ 85.0%
Kikizo 8.5 out of 10 85.0%
1UP B+ 85.0%
Fragland 83 out of 100 83.0%
TotalVideoGames 8 out of 10 80.0%
VideoGamer 8 out of 10 80.0%
Giant Bomb 4 out of 5 80.0%
GameDaily 8 out of 10 80.0%
GamePro 4 out of 5 80.0%

Yeah gotta hate those generic shooters!

The games successful scores does not discredit stvee's statement that the game is generic, and certainly does not dim his argument that it is for this very reason that he does not want to buy it.

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#96 RuinedMachine
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I don't know how people can defend edge. Read the review? Going by the scores, they are very inconsistant. An example would be GeoW2 getting a 9 while GeoW got an 8 and resistance 2 getting a 6 while resistance gets a 7? I dont care how well written the review is, scores need to be comparable to each other. LBP gets a 10 and COD WaW gets a 6, does that mean its almost twice better?exiledsnake



So they gave Gears 2 a better score than Gears 1 when everyone else is saying it didn't improve much and they gave Resistance 2 a lower score than the first when everyone else is saying that it improved the franchise a lot more?
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#97 BioShockOwnz
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:lol: These reviewers must hate games or something...
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#98 POJO_MOFO
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[QUOTE="MarloStanfield"]

I can understand why Resistance 2, fallout 3, cod waw and mirrors edge scored so badly

i'm hearing bad things about those games 

if you look at their GS scores and Metacritic scores, you will have a hard time finding bad things said about any of those games (except for ME here)
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#99 Jodan77
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Call of Duty: World at War - 6
Resistance 2 - 6
Mirror's Edge - 5
Left 4 Dead - 9

:| edge is mental, so L4D which should have been an arcade title or a half priced game, is bettr then cod waw, R2 and Mirrors Edge? :lol:

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#100 samusarmada
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I don't know how people can defend edge. Read the review? Going by the scores, they are very inconsistant. An example would be GeoW2 getting a 9 while GeoW got an 8 and resistance 2 getting a 6 while resistance gets a 7? I dont care how well written the review is, scores need to be comparable to each other. LBP gets a 10 and COD WaW gets a 6, does that mean its almost twice better?exiledsnake

*sigh* R2 was marked down because it tried to go too high. It tried to add all these features such as 60 player mulitplayer and streamline the game with weapon limitations that did not improve the game and in some cases made it worse. Gears by comparison went further in terms of thrills and pulse pounding moments rather than trying to branch out its system of design to the point of pointlessness.

World at war getting a 6 means that the game is competant. LBP getting a 10 means that it is one of the greatest games ever made. That is how you judge the scores because the ratings are merely a numerical summise of the written review.