Edge Magazine reviews Mario Kart

wow, that's low. weird, it got an 8 from EGM and a 9 from nintendo power. we'll see how gamespot rates it.shoeman12

I would put more stock in the 8 from EGM. People forget how harsh Edge is, a 6 from them is roughly a 7-8 anywhere else. So they are right in line.

It looks like Edge either thinks of 6 as good or just has no idea what they are talking about. Other reveiws average at a high 8 or low 9, so it just seems idiotic. But hey, let them have their opinions.CraigJK

This is a stupid argument you're posing. Basically, you're saying that because everybody raves about something, if somebody gives that said thing a mediocre score, their opinion is invalid.

I actually think the Edge review makes sense. These games are not getting any fresher. Ratchet & Clank fanboys cried when the most recent Ratchet & Clank game got a 7.5, but that seems pretty accurate (don't get me wrong, I own and love the game) considering that Insomniac has made the same damn game about 5 times.

The rehashing has got to stop and Nintendo is no exception to that.

The rehashing has got to stop and Nintendo is no exception to that.

Tragic_Kingdom7

Edge has always been pretty unforgiving.....but I mean it's hard to fault what they're saying. I mean the game just seems like Double Dash all over again.MikeE21286

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

The rehashing has got to stop and Nintendo is no exception to that.

Bigboi500

I'm talking about rehashed games with no evolution.

Super Mario Galaxy did something different than other Mario's.

Grand Theft Auto always evolves in some fashion.

However, games like Mario Kart, Ratchet and the Metroid Primes stay EXACTLY THE SAME.

There's nothing wrong with a continuing franchise, but there is something wrong with one that spins its wheels.

And I'd rather have new franchises personally.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"][QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

The rehashing has got to stop and Nintendo is no exception to that.

Tragic_Kingdom7

I'm talking about rehashed games with no evolution.

Super Mario Galaxy did something different than other Mario's.

Grand Theft Auto always evolves in some fashion.

However, games like Mario Kart, Ratchet and the Metroid Primes stay EXACTLY THE SAME.

There's nothing wrong with a continuing franchise, but there is something wrong with one that spins its wheels.

And I'd rather have new franchises personally.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"][QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

The rehashing has got to stop and Nintendo is no exception to that.

Tragic_Kingdom7

I'm talking about rehashed games with no evolution.

Super Mario Galaxy did something different than other Mario's.

Grand Theft Auto always evolves in some fashion.

However, games like Mario Kart, Ratchet and the Metroid Primes stay EXACTLY THE SAME.

There's nothing wrong with a continuing franchise, but there is something wrong with one that spins its wheels.

And I'd rather have new franchises personally.

I'd would rather have both new franchises and refines of great ideas to perfection, but then again I'm a little biased since every single one of my favorite games are sequels...

Edge usually has good and spot on reviews, and I don't see a reason why I shouldn't trust them somewhat on this one. It honestly looks like they've took a major major step back with the Mario Kart franchise with both DoubleDash and this one.

I'm really dissapointed since I would have liked for them to go back to the old feeling the game had with MK64. ( a not so childish approach, great great music, cool style, fun tracks etc)

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"][QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

Oscar-Wilde

However, games like Mario Kart, Ratchet and the Metroid Primes stay EXACTLY THE SAME.

Excuse me?

[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]From what I've seen, I think that's about right.thrones

AA/AAA reviews almost everywhere else? :P

really not that surprised, from what i've seen it looks boring and it is becoming stale, like all it's 1st party titles which is why i sold my wii. i have a terrible feeling in the not too distant future many will be saying 'remember when nintendo was good' unfortunately this is the balance nintendo will have to forever do to keep all wii owners happy, make every game as base and as user friendly as possible. you can shout all you like, but admit it, the recent games have been far too easy and are leaning towards the not so dedicated gamergeordie73

It's funny how many gamers (including myself) consider Mario Kart 64 to be the peak of the series, when it got a 6.4 here.

I'm concerned about MK Wii too, but I don't put a ton of faith in any review scores when it comes to the Mario Kart series.

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]Edge has always been pretty unforgiving.....but I mean it's hard to fault what they're saying. I mean the game just seems like Double Dash all over again.air_wolf_cubed

The main gameplay changes are online (which was in MK DS, so I'd think it'd be no deal to assume it'd be online nowadays....but no voice chat :roll: ) and now snaking is gone.

Wiimote steering is horned into the game because they have to make use of the Wii-mote somehow. It's already been stated in several previews that the Wii steering is not the best way to play the game.

And new characters and new tracks? What did you expect, of course they have to put in new characters or tracks, they can't just release the exact same game.

Nintendo takes the approach with this game that they take with all their series. Keep it the same and don't change much. The only difference is in previous gens atleast when they went from SNES to 64 to GC we would get a graphical upgrade from the game on the previous gen's console....now we don't even get that anymore.

It's funny how many gamers (including myself) consider Mario Kart 64 to be the peak of the series, when it got a 6.4 here.

I'm concerned about MK Wii too, but I don't put a ton of faith in any review scores when it comes to the Mario Kart series.

--ProtoMan--

MK 64 rocked....easily the best of the series for me. Used to play 4 player all day with my friends when I was younger.

It's funny how many gamers (including myself) consider Mario Kart 64 to be the peak of the series, when it got a 6.4 here.

--ProtoMan--

Mario Kart DS disagree.

lol sheep

Edge is the best magazine in the world and they've actually played Mario Kart on the Wii. It's not hard to se from screens why it could have problems though. It looks like derivative crap

Mario Kart DS FTW

lol. People don't take Edge seriously, but other sites? How logical is that? Fanboys always put a smile on my face.

lol sheep

Edge is the best magazine in the world and they've actually played Mario Kart on the Wii. It's not hard to se from screens why it could have problems though. It looks like derivative crap

Mario Kart DS FTW

the_h_bomb

Mario Kart Wii look very fun from what I seen. Yeah the graphics doesn't look that great, but as long as it fun and hopefully the online is good then it going to be a great game. And Mario Kart DS FTW indeed.:D Best Mario Kart game IMO.

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]Edge has always been pretty unforgiving.....but I mean it's hard to fault what they're saying. I mean the game just seems like Double Dash all over again.MikeE21286

The main gameplay changes are online (which was in MK DS, so I'd think it'd be no deal to assume it'd be online nowadays....but no voice chat :roll: ) and now snaking is gone.

Wiimote steering is horned into the game because they have to make use of the Wii-mote somehow. It's already been stated in several previews that the Wii steering is not the best way to play the game.

And new characters and new tracks? What did you expect, of course they have to put in new characters or tracks, they can't just release the exact same game.

Nintendo takes the approach with this game that they take with all their series. Keep it the same and don't change much. The only difference is in previous gens atleast when they went from SNES to 64 to GC we would get a graphical upgrade from the game on the previous gen's console....now we don't even get that anymore.

[QUOTE="--ProtoMan--"]

It's funny how many gamers (including myself) consider Mario Kart 64 to be the peak of the series, when it got a 6.4 here.

Wanderer5

Mario Kart DS disagree.

[QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]

lol sheep

Edge is the best magazine in the world and they've actually played Mario Kart on the Wii. It's not hard to se from screens why it could have problems though. It looks like derivative crap

Mario Kart DS FTW

Wanderer5

Mario Kart Wii look very fun from what I seen. Yeah the graphics doesn't look that great, but as long as it fun and hopefully the online is good then it going to be a great game.

That's what I'm talking about. Set that bar low, you won't be disappointed.

Edge has always been pretty unforgiving.....but I mean it's hard to fault what they're saying. I mean the game just seems like Double Dash all over again.MikeE21286

[QUOTE="thrones"]

[QUOTE="RobbieH1234"]It's Edge, that's hardly a surprising score.RobbieH1234

Agreed. I mean, Dark Sector outscored it..

You can't look at Edge's scores, you have to read the written review. Dark Sector getting a 7 and Mario Kart a 6 doesn't at all mean they think one is a better game than the other.

It's a little annoying when people just post Edge scores, because people always inevitably start complaining about how low they are without even knowing how Edge got to them.

[QUOTE="RobbieH1234"]It's Edge, that's hardly a surprising score.thrones

Agreed. I mean, Dark Sector outscored it..

Have you beaten both games?

[QUOTE="Wanderer5"][QUOTE="--ProtoMan--"]

It's funny how many gamers (including myself) consider Mario Kart 64 to be the peak of the series, when it got a 6.4 here.

yellowandmushy

Mario Kart DS disagree.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oqTzrXFWEU&feature=related

It's not just about nostalgia it's about the overall feel.

[QUOTE="Wanderer5"][QUOTE="--ProtoMan--"]

It's funny how many gamers (including myself) consider Mario Kart 64 to be the peak of the series, when it got a 6.4 here.

yellowandmushy

Mario Kart DS disagree.

Or because it could be more fun to play the game four player on a TV and not on a Small DS screen. I did not like Mario Kart DS and I don't care of it's an AAA game. the 64 game is the best one in the franchise IMO and started playing it the snes and have played all of them except for the Arcade game. Adding another driver was fun in DD but the courses lacked IMO.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"][QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

The rehashing has got to stop and Nintendo is no exception to that.

Tragic_Kingdom7

I'm talking about rehashed games with no evolution.

Super Mario Galaxy did something different than other Mario's.

Grand Theft Auto always evolves in some fashion.

However, games like Mario Kart, Ratchet and the Metroid Primes stay EXACTLY THE SAME.

There's nothing wrong with a continuing franchise, but there is something wrong with one that spins its wheels.

And I'd rather have new franchises personally.

MP3 is vastly different than MP2 or 1.

This is the same Edge Magazine that gave Super Mario Sunshine a 6/10 score in 2002. Was there an outrage as was an outrage when Jeff Gertsmann gave it a 8.0?

By the way, is a harsh review a good review? Is it no better than a biased or soft review? How did Edge reviewed recent high-profiled games, such as Halo 3, Crysis, Devil May Cry, etc.?

Man, I can only imagine the reaction when Yahtzee rips this game a new one... :lol:ferrarimanf355

aren't people tired of him allready..

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]Edge has always been pretty unforgiving.....but I mean it's hard to fault what they're saying. I mean the game just seems like Double Dash all over again.air_wolf_cubed

The main gameplay changes are online (which was in MK DS, so I'd think it'd be no deal to assume it'd be online nowadays....but no voice chat :roll: ) and now snaking is gone.

Wiimote steering is horned into the game because they have to make use of the Wii-mote somehow. It's already been stated in several previews that the Wii steering is not the best way to play the game.

And new characters and new tracks? What did you expect, of course they have to put in new characters or tracks, they can't just release the exact same game.

Nintendo takes the approach with this game that they take with all their series. Keep it the same and don't change much. The only difference is in previous gens atleast when they went from SNES to 64 to GC we would get a graphical upgrade from the game on the previous gen's console....now we don't even get that anymore.

good point about the racers (for the most part) staying the same. It just feels like less of an upgrade/new game because of the graphics I'd say.

[QUOTE="ferrarimanf355"]Man, I can only imagine the reaction when Yahtzee rips this game a new one... :lol:Always-Honest

aren't people tired of him allready..

Nope most of his reviews are based on the truth

[QUOTE="Wanderer5"][QUOTE="--ProtoMan--"]

It's funny how many gamers (including myself) consider Mario Kart 64 to be the peak of the series, when it got a 6.4 here.

yellowandmushy

Mario Kart DS disagree.

Sorry! I forgot about Mario Kart DS... although I haven't played it enough to have much of an opinion on it.

I just noticed that people were saying "Why can't MK Wii be like MK64?"... which is kinda interesting considering that MK64 didn't get many exceptional reviews.

Personally, I had a blast with MK64 and MKDD, and I found MK: Super Circuit to be pretty difficult. I guess I'm just not that good of a driver.

In addition, it seems to me that some of the same people who complain that Nintendo sequels are rehashes are complaining that MK Wii is going to suck because it doesn't have traditional free-for-all balloon battles (a mode which I did enjoy) and is different in a few ways from its predecessors. I guess you can never please everyone.

good thing i sold wiideadmeat59

[QUOTE="Always-Honest"]

[QUOTE="ferrarimanf355"]Man, I can only imagine the reaction when Yahtzee rips this game a new one... :lol:EPaul

aren't people tired of him allready..

Nope most of his reviews are based on the truth

his truth.... it's opinion..like all reviews.

he's funny, but i grew tired of it...

That's too bad, but Dark Sector scoring higher? :?

I guess I'll wait for the other reviews before I make any decisions.

lol sheep

Edge is the best magazine in the world and they've actually played Mario Kart on the Wii. It's not hard to se from screens why it could have problems though. It looks like derivative crap

Mario Kart DS FTW

the_h_bomb

I respect your opinion, you are one of the best posters around here, but I traded in Mario Kart DS after a while. I actually like the first Mario Kart better. And I think the one for Wii looks more like that one so I have a feeling I'll like the Wii version better than MK DS.

[QUOTE="--ProtoMan--"]

It's funny how many gamers (including myself) consider Mario Kart 64 to be the peak of the series, when it got a 6.4 here.

I'm concerned about MK Wii too, but I don't put a ton of faith in any review scores when it comes to the Mario Kart series.

MikeE21286

MK 64 rocked....easily the best of the series for me. Used to play 4 player all day with my friends when I was younger.

Indeed, I cant believe the low scores.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"][QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

The rehashing has got to stop and Nintendo is no exception to that.

Tragic_Kingdom7

I'm talking about rehashed games with no evolution.

Super Mario Galaxy did something different than other Mario's.

Grand Theft Auto always evolves in some fashion.

However, games like Mario Kart, Ratchet and the Metroid Primes stay EXACTLY THE SAME.

There's nothing wrong with a continuing franchise, but there is something wrong with one that spins its wheels.

And I'd rather have new franchises personally.