EDGE: New always on, always connected Durango SDK leak is real

Dear fellow gamers,

these are bad news for ALL gamers, not only for the lemmings among us! Lets hope M$ won't serve as a model for other console manufacturers/game publishers. This is a trend I refuse to follow (PC/MAC Diablo 3 ftl).

What are your thoughts?

Yours sincerely
McSkombi 

LINK:  New always on, always connected Durango SDK leak is real

Dear fellow gamers,

these are bad news for ALL gamers, not only for the lemmings among us! Lets hope M$ won't serve as a model for other console manufacturers/game publishers. This is a trend I refuse to follow (PC/MAC Diablo 3 ftl).

What are your thoughts?

Yours sincerely
McSkombi 

LINK:  New always on, always connected Durango SDK leak is real

McSkombi

Failbox720 kinect edition confirmed !!!

PS will be again my weapon of choice, don't care what games M$ pulls out !

Why is an always on always connected device a bad thing?

So basically a no used games kinect box?

lol bad time to be a lemming.

And some people would defend this practise from Microsoft. As if introducing the idea of paying to play online gaming wasnt enough, when will this corporate greed end, like for real? :evil:

Why is an always on always connected device a bad thing?

NFJSupreme

Because there are parts of the world where there is no i-net !

So far I haven't heard a single good thing about the Durango.  It just makes you wonder what the hell MS are doing.   Surely they have something positive to show to gamers that will counter all the hype Sony and the PS4 have created.  I find it hard to believe that MS will just let Sony steamroll all over them.

Why is an always on always connected device a bad thing?

NFJSupreme

Because when they take the servers down after the following XBox is released, your console is a paperweight and your games are coasters.

And some people would defend this practise from Microsoft. As if introducing the idea of paying to play online gaming wasnt enough, when will this corporate greed end, like for real? :evil:

megaspiderweb09

I am willing to bet MS will have a load of different models and SKUs that dont require it

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Why is an always on always connected device a bad thing?

RossRichard

Because when they take the servers down after the following XBox is released, your console is a paperweight and your games are coasters.

It will also allow them to bind games to xbla accounts.

Just because it can always be onlne doesn't mean it has to always be online...

Just putting that out there.

Hmmm, I remember even the Wii was overheating with WiiConnect24, this could mean hardware issues, apart from the other concerns already expressed ...

I really hope this is BS.

[QUOTE="megaspiderweb09"]

And some people would defend this practise from Microsoft. As if introducing the idea of paying to play online gaming wasnt enough, when will this corporate greed end, like for real? :evil:

Zaibach

I am willing to bet MS will have a load of different models and SKUs that dont require it

Different configuration or not, it still doesnt change their intent. There is nothing wrong with creating your own unique models, but for the love of heaven, do not make or potray your firm as a corporate DEMON. Even the founder of Microsoft Gill Bates understands the need to engage all Stakeholders and not just make stupid decisions because ''theres alot of money to be made''. Like for real, when you some of the practises of the Xbox brand, you just wonder if they even know who their consumers are at all?, do they even do Market research at all?

Just because it can always be onlne doesn't mean it has to always be online...

Just putting that out there.

Snugenz

Just because it can always be onlne doesn't mean it has to always be online...

Just putting that out there.

Snugenz

:|

i do not see the logic behind always online, the negatives outweigh the positives (which there are none)campzor

Always online = games tied to xbla accounts, no used games = massive profits.

Both last xboxes have been plagued by piracy, always online could possibly eliminate this.

Advertising, direct immediate advertising to every xbox in the world at the same time.

Netfix etc. always online means all xbox customers would also be potential customers for a host of other media streams.

these are bad news for ALL gamers, not only for the lemmings among us! Lets hope M$ won't serve as a model for other console manufacturers/game publishers. This is a trend I refuse to follow (PC/MAC Diablo 3 ftl). ZHANGWEN

Your broken image link after your copy/pasted post is invisible, spambot. Same with all 7 of your other posts. Sigh... reported. 

My thoughts are this. I couldn't care less because I am not buying a Microsoft console. I have too much self respect.AmazonTreeBoa

Advertising, direct immediate advertising to every xbox in the world at the same time.

tenaka2

It will be targeted advertising.

For example, if Kinect sees you're eating something it will play food ads.

If it sees you're making out with your loved one, it will play diaper ads.

And so on ...

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[QUOTE="megaspiderweb09"]

And some people would defend this practise from Microsoft. As if introducing the idea of paying to play online gaming wasnt enough, when will this corporate greed end, like for real? :evil:

megaspiderweb09

I am willing to bet MS will have a load of different models and SKUs that dont require it

Different configuration or not, it still doesnt change their intent. There is nothing wrong with creating your own unique models, but for the love of heaven, do not make or potray your firm as a corporate DEMON. Even the founder of Microsoft Gill Bates understands the need to engage all Stakeholders and not just make stupid decisions because ''theres alot of money to be made''. Like for real, when you some of the practises of the Xbox brand, you just wonder if they even know who their consumers are at all?, do they even do Market research at all?

They are just following precedent, consumers have demonstrated that they are willing to pay for such things, look at the current Live model.

We are to blame, the royal 'we' as in the consumer who in essence teach these corporations how to behave.

NO USED games? Well, that means I have NO use for M$ either. :twisted:

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Advertising, direct immediate advertising to every xbox in the world at the same time.

KiZZo1

It will be targeted advertising.

For example, if Kinect sees you're eating something it will play food ads.

If it sees you're making out with your loved one, it will play diaper ads.

And so on ...

True, and I guess excercise equipment and plus size clothes if you are a tubby lemming.

Our insider described the screengrabs from the Durango SDK on vgleaks.com as entirely legitimate, although they contain much of the same information we revealed on February 6th, and were circulated to developers working with the console last year.

 Cows (reguarding 720):

"Lololol lems u stupid. Microsoft is too far along to improve their specs.  The console is set in stone lolol :lol: "

Cows(reguarding PS4):  

"Buu....buu...the Killzone 3 demo was made using a dev kit with only 1.5gb of Vram.  Developers didnt have the new devkits until January . Some developers didnt even know the official specs :cry:"

They are just following precedent, consumers have demonstrated that they are willing to pay for such things, look at the current Live model.

 

We are to blame, the royal 'we' as in the consumer who in essence teach these corporations how to behave.

Zaibach

That is just pathetic if thats what they base this model from, any firm in the 21st century should know marketing research is way more important now than it as ever been. Just because consumers adopted the previous model before doesnt mean they are or were happy with it especially considering the competitors have those at advantage (PC/Nintendo/Sony). I really hope it comes back to bite them hard because the kind of practices they are trying to introduce since they joined the gaming industry has not been a good one

Just because it can always be onlne doesn't mean it has to always be online...

Just putting that out there.

Snugenz

Why is an always on always connected device a bad thing?

NFJSupreme

you lose internet? no games 

go over bandwidth limit? no games

maybe some people have really bad internet and someone in another room is watching netflix,you try to sign in on the next xbox but you keep getting errors because someone else is taking up all the bandwidth. 

so many senarios could go wrong but i wouldn't mind it if any system had always online im used to having problems with steam and my internet. 

I don't see why this is a bad thing, isn't it good it download and patch your games auto even when you not at home or sleeping?

To use pns + don't you need to be connect to the Internet for patches to be installed. xhawk27

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]To use pns + don't you need to be connect to the Internet for patches to be installed. shadiezz2012

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Why is an always on always connected device a bad thing?

DISSESHOWEDO

Because there are parts of the world where there is no i-net !

I personally want to be able to touch my controller then go right to the content/game i'm looking for with no boot up.

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[QUOTE="NFJSupreme"]

Why is an always on always connected device a bad thing?

lhughey

Because there are parts of the world where there is no i-net !

I personally want to be able to touch my controller then go right to the content/game i'm looking for with no boot up.

Not sure what you're getting at. Yeah, a lot of people leave their PCs on all the time, but that doesn't mean they need a constant internet connection to play their games. Also, I, for one, do not leave my PC on all the time, because that's bad for it, and I don't mind 30 seconds of boot up time. Not a big deal. 

Always online will not be mandatory. If you really think Microsoft aren't going to want to sell their console to people without internet connections you're a moron.Miketheman83

Edge confirmed it and so far they've been spot on ! So who's the moron now ?

i have offline issues with steam sometimes,if my internet goes down i can take a break from playing games for an hour or 2. always online doesn't bother me 

i have offline issues with steam sometimes,if my internet goes down i can take a break from playing games for an hour or 2. always online doesn't bother me 

Farsendor1

...and just because the console always online doesnt mean it require be online to play games:|

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Always online will not be mandatory. If you really think Microsoft aren't going to want to sell their console to people without internet connections you're a moron.DISSESHOWEDO

Edge confirmed it and so far they've been spot on ! So who's the moron now ?

Hmm...i see MS have been living under a rock for the last few months!

Why is an always on always connected device a bad thing?

NFJSupreme

Because:

1. Not every one has internet connections.

2. Internet is not 100% reliable. I don't want to not be able to play my singleplayer games if my connection goes down.

i do not see the logic behind always online, the negatives outweigh the positives (which there are none)campzor