EDGE: New always on, always connected Durango SDK leak is real

[QUOTE="DISSESHOWEDO"]

[QUOTE="NFJSupreme"]

Why is an always on always connected device a bad thing?

lhughey

Because there are parts of the world where there is no i-net !

I personally want to be able to touch my controller then go right to the content/game i'm looking for with no boot up.

The positive interpretation is that the downtime when you turn on the 360 (where it logs into XBL) will be eliminated.  The system could use intelligent algorithims to download demos for you whilst the system is powered-down (demos of sequels to games you have played, or recommended games.  This could be paired with user permissions to set the range and amount of HDD space dedicated to this).  The Kinect camera could be used to scan your face and work in sync with all your social networks to pull up a list of recommended contacts.  If MS plays it right it could be a very powerful feature.

If done wrong it could be used as a method for enforcing draconian DRM and borking you out of your single-player game because your connection skipped a beat.

Hmm...i see MS have been living under a rock for the last few months!

[QUOTE="NFJSupreme"]

Why is an always on always connected device a bad thing?

PAL360

Because:

1. Not every one has internet connections.

2. Internet is not 100% reliable. I don't want to not be able to play my singleplayer games if my connection goes down.

If this is true, looks like i'll return being once again a PC/Playstation only gamer !!

But considering these are still rumors, I'm still hoping this is not whats gonna happen :(

PC+ PS faw next gen, Microsoft is going to turn to poo

Just because it can always be onlne doesn't mean it has to always be online...

Just putting that out there.

Snugenz

bu..but it's just rumors

bu..but MS isn't that stupid...lol but aparently they think their fans are!

J

JUMP OUT!

[quote=""]Our insider described the screengrabs from the Durango SDK on vgleaks.com as entirely legitimate, although they contain much of the same information we revealed on February 6th, and were circulated to developers working with the console last year.StrongDeadlift

 Cows (reguarding 720):

"Lololol lems u stupid. Microsoft is too far along to improve their specs.  The console is set in stone lolol :lol: "

Cows(reguarding PS4):  

"Buu....buu...the Killzone 3 demo was made using a dev kit with only 1.5gb of Vram.  Developers didnt have the new devkits until January . Some developers didnt even know the official specs 

I have a feeling Microsoft will recognize their mistake and change this by the time the console is released. Surely they'll pay attention to the backlash this will cause if this is real and they announce this.jman1553

can't you just unplug it or something?

Always online will not be mandatory. If you really think Microsoft aren't going to want to sell their console to people without internet connections you're a moron.Miketheman83

i have offline issues with steam sometimes,if my internet goes down i can take a break from playing games for an hour or 2. always online doesn't bother me 

Farsendor1

Always online will not be mandatory. If you really think Microsoft aren't going to want to sell their console to people without internet connections you're a moron.Miketheman83

dumb meet dumber.

Just because it can always be onlne doesn't mean it has to always be online...

Just putting that out there.

Snugenz

Dumb and Dumber.

Meet always online.

So basically a no used games kinect box?

 

lol bad time to be a lemming.

tenaka2

can't you just unplug it or something?

dommeus

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Always online will not be mandatory. If you really think Microsoft aren't going to want to sell their console to people without internet connections you're a moron.HAZE-Unit

dumb meet dumber.

Just because it can always be onlne doesn't mean it has to always be online...

Just putting that out there.

Snugenz

Dumb and Dumber.

Meet always online.

It's might not be as big a deal as it seems, but things aren't looking good for NExtbox. 

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Always online will not be mandatory. If you really think Microsoft aren't going to want to sell their console to people without internet connections you're a moron.tormentos

i have offline issues with steam sometimes,if my internet goes down i can take a break from playing games for an hour or 2. always online doesn't bother me 

Farsendor1

[QUOTE="DISSESHOWEDO"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Always online will not be mandatory. If you really think Microsoft aren't going to want to sell their console to people without internet connections you're a moron.Miketheman83

Edge confirmed it and so far they've been spot on ! So who's the moron now ?

Try reading the link for crying out loud ! 

"The Durango Hardware Overview section re-iterates that Microsofts next-generation console codenamed Durango will be always on, always connected."

What part of the text in bold you can't understand ?!?

Always on, always connected. Sounds exactly like the PS4.

The PS4 is put into a low-power state (always on) and is always connected to PSN (always connect) to download updates and whatnot without requiring any user input.

Or are we all reading into this and believeing this means you have to be connected to XBL to play? Becuase it doesn't say those words anywhere in the leak. 

Always on, always connected. Sounds exactly like the PS4.

The PS4 is put into a low-power state (always on) and is always connected to PSN (always connect) to download updates and whatnot without requiring any user input.

Or are we all reading into this and believeing this means you have to be connected to XBL to play? Becuase it doesn't say those words anywhere in the leak. 

Wasdie

Yeah that's not an issue.

Always on, always connected. Sounds exactly like the PS4.

The PS4 is put into a low-power state (always on) and is always connected to PSN (always connect) to download updates and whatnot without requiring any user input.

Or are we all reading into this and believeing this means you have to be connected to XBL to play? Becuase it doesn't say those words anywhere in the leak. 

Wasdie

Well M$ locked the multiplayer this gen, so what stops'em locking the single pasrt ? And there is a difference in the always on, always connected part between PS4 and nextbox !

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Always on, always connected. Sounds exactly like the PS4.

The PS4 is put into a low-power state (always on) and is always connected to PSN (always connect) to download updates and whatnot without requiring any user input.

Or are we all reading into this and believeing this means you have to be connected to XBL to play? Becuase it doesn't say those words anywhere in the leak. 

DISSESHOWEDO

Well M$ locked the multiplayer this gen, so what stops'em locking the single pasrt ? And there is a difference in the always on, always connected part between PS4 and nextbox !

I think everyone should just wait for a MS conference if there is one or e3, and stop worrying. 

Let's hear MS themselve's explain the console.

Seems a bit of a stretch to me since you're implying a few PC games = New MS console and it's entire library of games? :shock: Just sayin. :P

SecretPolice

Well I hope not, however, always online means that the console should always be online to work, there is no way around it, I just wanted those two dumb guys to know the concept behind it :P

There are a lot of questions need to be answered.

I mean what happens when my ISP is down for a few days? is the feature only for the console or for everything including playing games?

This report doesn't sound good, Im hoping Microsoft to change this feature, I don't like to be hand cuffed with my own damn purchase of any product.

EDIT: better this way.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Always on, always connected. Sounds exactly like the PS4.

The PS4 is put into a low-power state (always on) and is always connected to PSN (always connect) to download updates and whatnot without requiring any user input.

Or are we all reading into this and believeing this means you have to be connected to XBL to play? Becuase it doesn't say those words anywhere in the leak. 

DISSESHOWEDO

Well M$ locked the multiplayer this gen, so what stops'em locking the single pasrt ? And there is a difference in the always on, always connected part between PS4 and nextbox !

You need to read up on slippery slope arguments. 

Reading the article, it seems to hint more that it's like ps4: that whilst you won't be forced to stay online ALL the time, it is recommended to stay online to get the best out of the system.

I don't think Microsoft would be stupid enough to force the users to stay online all the time in order to even play single playr games, they should know that most of the World does not have a stable network connection.

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="DISSESHOWEDO"]

Edge confirmed it and so far they've been spot on ! So who's the moron now ?

DISSESHOWEDO

Try reading the link for crying out loud ! 

"The Durango Hardware Overview section re-iterates that Microsofts next-generation console codenamed Durango will be always on, always connected."

What part of the text in bold you can't understand ?!?

[QUOTE="NFJSupreme"]

Why is an always on always connected device a bad thing?

DISSESHOWEDO

Because there are parts of the world where there is no i-net !

Not one person read the article. This is basically the same thing the PS4 is gonna do. It is a good thing. Everyone in here crying is owning themselves. Read the article.

did any of you actually read the article?

"

The Durango Hardware Overview section re-iterates that Microsofts next-generation console codenamed Durango will be always on, always connected.

Durango will implement different power states so that it can always be powered on, but will draw minimal electricity when not in use, the document reads. The console will be ready instantly when users want to play, and will always maintain a network connection so that console software and games are always current. With this Always On, Always Connected design, users will quickly and easily enjoy their connected entertainment experiences, with no waiting for the console to restart or install games."

Did you perhaps stop for a moment with your very limited wisdom and think "Hmmm, this is just like the PS4's sleep mode, only keeps your kniect2 and internet connection in tact so updates ect can continue.

Or is that too much common sense for the average user here?

Its likely just to support features such as "Turn on when user gestures infront of the TV in a certain way" ect ect.

But now, apperently this translates as "ALWAYS ONLINE DRM AMAGAD" :lol:

So the Durango is doing the same thing as the PS4. This is a good thing. Time for Cows to find more ammo.

The Durango Hardware Overview section re-iterates that Microsofts next-generation console codenamed Durango will be always on, always connected.

Durango will implement different power states so that it can always be powered on, but will draw minimal electricity when not in use, the document reads. The console will be ready instantly when users want to play, and will always maintain a network connection so that console software and games are always current. With this Always On, Always Connected design, users will quickly and easily enjoy their connected entertainment experiences, with no waiting for the console to restart or install games.

The new leak also tallies with our original story in that it confirms the new console will be bundled with a new, improved Kinect and also include a Blu-Ray disc drive.

It does reveal, however, that all games on Blu-Ray will be installed onto the consoles hard drive, and that play from the optical disc will not be supported. Game players will, however, be able to play games as they are being installed on the console.

Not one person read the article. This is basically the same thing the PS4 is gonna do. It is a good thing. Everyone in here crying is owning themselves. Read the article.

timbers_WSU

lol at all the lemmings defending MS on this one.

lol at all the lemmings defending MS on this one.

tenaka2

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

lol at all the lemmings defending MS on this one.

MBirdy88

A few months back, mandatory installs and always online were things boxites lol'd at and claimed were awful.

Suddenly the very same things are fab. 

Hippocrates,

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

lol at all the lemmings defending MS on this one.

tenaka2

A few months back, mandatory installs and always online were things boxites lol'd at and claimed were awful.

Suddenly the very same things are fab. 

Hippocrates,

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

lol at all the lemmings defending MS on this one.

tenaka2

A few months back, mandatory installs and always online were things boxites lol'd at and claimed were awful.

Suddenly the very same things are fab. 

Hippocrates,

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"] You are trying too hard. just stop.MBirdy88

A few months back, mandatory installs and always online were things boxites lol'd at and claimed were awful.

Suddenly the very same things are fab. 

Hippocrates,

It doesn't state anywhere that it will be required to be online all the time.  Looks like it is just talking about its always connected social aspects.

did any of you actually read the article?

 

"

The Durango Hardware Overview section re-iterates that Microsofts next-generation console codenamed Durango will be always on, always connected.

Durango will implement different power states so that it can always be powered on, but will draw minimal electricity when not in use, the document reads. The console will be ready instantly when users want to play, and will always maintain a network connection so that console software and games are always current. With this Always On, Always Connected design, users will quickly and easily enjoy their connected entertainment experiences, with no waiting for the console to restart or install games."

Did you perhaps stop for a moment with your very limited wisdom and think "Hmmm, this is just like the PS4's sleep mode, only keeps your kniect2 and internet connection in tact so updates ect can continue.

 

Or is that too much common sense for the average user here?

 

Its likely just to support features such as "Turn on when user gestures infront of the TV in a certain way" ect ect.

 

But now, apperently this translates as "ALWAYS ONLINE DRM AMAGAD" :lol:

MBirdy88

It doesn't state anywhere that it will be required to be online all the time.  Looks like it is just talking about its always connected social aspects.

mysticstryk

Why is an always on always connected device a bad thing?

NFJSupreme

[QUOTE="mysticstryk"]

It doesn't state anywhere that it will be required to be online all the time.  Looks like it is just talking about its always connected social aspects.

timbers_WSU

[QUOTE="mysticstryk"]

It doesn't state anywhere that it will be required to be online all the time.  Looks like it is just talking about its always connected social aspects.

timbers_WSU

This is the only site I see such blatant childish fanboyism and it comes from both sides. I frequent many gaming websites and this one is by far the lowest in quality users. Almost every thread is a bunch of stupid comments about cows and lemmings or people stating stupid **** like reported and so forth. Almost no one can have a discussion without saying something stupid or bashing a persons views or saying they haven't played the game.  It's rather pathetic actually.

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Always online will not be mandatory. If you really think Microsoft aren't going to want to sell their console to people without internet connections you're a moron.Miketheman83

[QUOTE="McSkombi"]

Dear fellow gamers,

these are bad news for ALL gamers, not only for the lemmings among us! Lets hope M$ won't serve as a model for other console manufacturers/game publishers. This is a trend I refuse to follow (PC/MAC Diablo 3 ftl).

What are your thoughts?

Yours sincerely
McSkombi 

LINK:  New always on, always connected Durango SDK leak is real

DISSESHOWEDO

Failbox720 kinect edition confirmed !!!

PS will be again my weapon of choice, don't care what games M$ pulls out !