Effects of a FF7 remake

Square will remake more games?

Seriously remaking is popular now-a-days. They remade Halloween, now they're remaking Nightmare on Elm Street and Friday the 13th. Hell even the new Batman movies (as amazing as they are) are some sort of remake.

Point being remakes being successful spawns more remakes.

Hell even the new Batman movies (as amazing as they are) are some sort of remake. 6matt6

Square will eventually remake FF7, but they'll probably do it when they are in a tight spot, knowing that fanboys will eat it up.

Square doesn't have values, they will remake any game they have ever made, numerous times in order to turn a profit.

[QUOTE="6matt6"]Hell even the new Batman movies (as amazing as they are) are some sort of remake. randar23rhenn

list compiled since start of gen

Ports

Sequels

1. Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Fuuketsu no Grimoire (DS)
2. Final Fantasy XIII (PS3)
3. Star Ocean 4(360)
4. Final Fantasy IV: After Tsuki no Kikan

Remakes

Spinoffs

Non FF/DQ/KH Games

1. Infinite Discovery (360)
2. The Last Remanant (360/PS3)
3. Space Invaders Extreme (DS/PSP)
4. Valkyrie Profile Lenneth(PSP) PS1 Port
5. Star Ocean First Departure(PSP)
6. Star Ocean Second Evolution(PSP)
7. Untitled Square Enix MMORPG
8. The World Ends With You (DS)
9. Heroes of Mana (DS)
10. Araknoid (DS)
11. Front Mission(DS)SNES Port
12. Star Ocean 4(360)
13. Sigma Harmonics (DS)

The Run Down

• Ports = 10/49 = 20%
• Sequels = 4/49 = 7%
• Remakes = 9/49 = 18%
• Spinoffs = 15/49 = 30%
• Non FF/DQ/KH Games = 13/49 = 25%

An FFVII Remake will only further reinforce this BS that they are all ready currently doing. Do you guys really want more of this?

Remakes are a good thing. They show that video game companies can stand the test of time. To the point where there are entire legions of people who haven't played some of your classic games. Hell, some of them weren't even born when the games came out.

Square has a deep roster they can pull into. I view these remakes the same way I view retro Jordans: theres nothing bad about it. I was like 1 year old when the first Jordans came out. If I tried to find an original pair, they would be in horrible horrible condition. But, if they were new, these would still be a tight pair of shoes. Why deny me access to nice shoes just because i'm younger than the next man?

To the people who remember the old games and don't want them again... there is zero impact. Square still makes the sequels (they've always made sequels, if you hate that then you hate square and you've always hated square... in fact you hate most rpg companies) and original titles that everyone likes. They satify the retro gamer, the current gamer who only looks forward and the current gamer who also looks at the past.

I never had a Playstation, but I remember how major FF7 was when it came out. People who didn't even play RPGs purcahsed that game. If they re-released it, i'd buy it assuming I had the console it came out on.

[QUOTE="randar23rhenn"][QUOTE="6matt6"]Hell even the new Batman movies (as amazing as they are) are some sort of remake. 6matt6

An FFVII Remake will only further reinforce this BS that they are all ready currently doing. Do you guys really want more of this?

Blackbond

did you make that yourself?

• It could sell millions of PS3 units easily
• A never ending surge of sales
• Could it be the end of the console war?
• It will either lead Sony to victory or do nothing, it depends how Square does it
• It will most likely be the best selling game this generation ever

All of the above is fanboy talk. A remake is not going to be a system seller. It would have to be revolutionary.

The more I read that blog the more I realized how damaging FF13 going multiplat was.......it's driven cows insane.

All of the above is fanboy talk. A remake is not going to be a system seller. It would have to be revolutionary. darthogre

[QUOTE="6matt6"]

[QUOTE="randar23rhenn"][QUOTE="6matt6"]Hell even the new Batman movies (as amazing as they are) are some sort of remake. randar23rhenn

That's why I said SOME SORT OF REMAKE. I didn't directly call it a remake. Nice reading skills. Id call the new Batman movies a reboot seeing as they went back to the beginning to start over.

Reboot. Thats what they are. Makes perfect sense.

An FFVII Remake will only further reinforce this BS that they are all ready currently doing. Do you guys really want more of this?Blackbond

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]An FFVII Remake will only further reinforce this BS that they are all ready currently doing. Do you guys really want more of this?DireToad

Thats my argument for the Wii. Why do people concentrate on the bad games where there are tons of good games on the system? I'm sure that because of its success, the PS2 probably has way more crappy 72 or lower rating on gamerankings and metacritic than it does well rated games. But nobody even thinks about it because its silly to judge a system off of its bad games (which shouldn't be made or purchased) rather than its good games (which are the only games people should be buying).

[QUOTE="DireToad"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]An FFVII Remake will only further reinforce this BS that they are all ready currently doing. Do you guys really want more of this?Senor_Kami

Thats my argument for the Wii. Why do people concentrate on the bad games where there are tons of good games on the system?

lol ok

Reboot. Thats what they are. Makes perfect sense. 6matt6

An FFVII Remake will only further reinforce this BS that they are all ready currently doing. Do you guys really want more of this?

Blackbond

in all honesty, FF III on the DS was the first SE game I've ever played. so no, I don't mind it.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]An FFVII Remake will only further reinforce this BS that they are all ready currently doing. Do you guys really want more of this?DireToad

So you're willing to be 4 versions of games such as Final Fantasy I, Final Fantasy II, Final Fantasy IV, two copies of Chrono Trigger, a second copy of Star Ocean 2 ect?

Sorry I'm not wasting my money on buying the same games over and over no matter how good they are. In the end they are the same games I've played generations and generations ago.

The VC/XBLA/PSN is there for a reason. SE should just move their games there instead of pooling their resources and spreading themselves out thinner then they already are.

[QUOTE="6matt6"]Reboot. Thats what they are. Makes perfect sense. randar23rhenn

I didnt call it a remake. I called it a reboot. You sure have a one track mind dont you?

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

An FFVII Remake will only further reinforce this BS that they are all ready currently doing. Do you guys really want more of this?

Hewkii

in all honesty, FF III on the DS was the first SE game I've ever played. so no, I don't mind it.

Square will remake more games?

Seriously remaking is popular now-a-days. They remade Halloween, now they're remaking Nightmare on Elm Street and Friday the 13th. Hell even the new Batman movies (as amazing as they are) are some sort of remake.

Point being remakes being successful spawns more remakes.

6matt6

The newest Halloween was more a prequel then anything. And the new Batman movies are considered reboots.

Theres like 20+ games with an 80 rating or above. Wii runs AAAe if you count PC as a console, if you don't it's got as many as the PS3. How many Wii gamers own more than 20 games? You're not going to run out of good games to buy until a combination of things happen:

1) All Wii software development stops and no more titles, (good or bad are made)

2) You will need to own 20+ Wii games in order to run out of "good" ones to buy. Isn't the attach rate like 4.x?

Mario Galaxy, Zelda, Metroid, Smash Brothers, No More Heroes, Zack and Wiki, COD... thats not even all high rated Wii games, but its already more titles than the average Wii owner owns.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

An FFVII Remake will only further reinforce this BS that they are all ready currently doing. Do you guys really want more of this?

Hewkii

in all honesty, FF III on the DS was the first SE game I've ever played. so no, I don't mind it.

FFIII on DS was America's first crack at the game. I don't mind remakes of a game that were previously not released for a region or localized.

[QUOTE="6matt6"]

Square will remake more games?

Seriously remaking is popular now-a-days. They remade Halloween, now they're remaking Nightmare on Elm Street and Friday the 13th. Hell even the new Batman movies (as amazing as they are) are some sort of remake.

Point being remakes being successful spawns more remakes.

Dark_Knight6

The newest Halloween was more a prequel then anything. And the new Batman movies are considered reboots.

[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

An FFVII Remake will only further reinforce this BS that they are all ready currently doing. Do you guys really want more of this?

Blackbond

in all honesty, FF III on the DS was the first SE game I've ever played. so no, I don't mind it.

FFIII on DS was America's first crack at the game. I don't mind remakes of a game that were previously not released for a region or localized.

[QUOTE="6matt6"]

Square will remake more games?

Seriously remaking is popular now-a-days. They remade Halloween, now they're remaking Nightmare on Elm Street and Friday the 13th. Hell even the new Batman movies (as amazing as they are) are some sort of remake.

Point being remakes being successful spawns more remakes.

Dark_Knight6

The newest Halloween was more a prequel then anything. And the new Batman movies are considered reboots.

Well yeah Rob Zombie called it a 're-imagining' or whatever. He can call it whatever he wishes. The movie was still a terrible atrocity.

http://talkplaystation.com/effects-of-a-ff7-remake/

What else do you think will happen if FF7 got remade?_Parky_

IMO VII is a terrible game. I still can't understand (or stand) the legions of fans this game has. I wouldn't mind it if they remade VI though. That I would buy.

[QUOTE="DireToad"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]An FFVII Remake will only further reinforce this BS that they are all ready currently doing. Do you guys really want more of this?Blackbond

So you're willing to be 4 versions of games such as Final Fantasy I, Final Fantasy II, Final Fantasy IV, two copies of Chrono Trigger, a second copy of Star Ocean 2 ect?

Sorry I'm not wasting my money on buying the same games over and over no matter how good they are. In the end they are the same games I've played generations and generations ago.

The VC/XBLA/PSN is there for a reason. SE should just move their games there instead of pooling their resources and spreading themselves out thinner then they already are.

In the end they are the same games I've played generations and generations ago.Blackbond

IMO VII is a terrible game. I still can't understand (or stand) the legions of fans this game has. I wouldn't mind it if they remade VI though. That I would buy.

sleepingzzz

it's coming in a few years if they continue with the DS remakes.

[QUOTE="DireToad"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]An FFVII Remake will only further reinforce this BS that they are all ready currently doing. Do you guys really want more of this?Blackbond

So you're willing to be 4 versions of games such as Final Fantasy I, Final Fantasy II, Final Fantasy IV, two copies of Chrono Trigger, a second copy of Star Ocean 2 ect?

Sorry I'm not wasting my money on buying the same games over and over no matter how good they are. In the end they are the same games I've played generations and generations ago.

The VC/XBLA/PSN is there for a reason. SE should just move their games there instead of pooling their resources and spreading themselves out thinner then they already are.

LMAO. You act like Square will force you to buy 100 version of Final Fantasy 1. Its your money. They aren't making these for people who have already played the game, beaten it and are tired of it. They make them for people who never played them in the past.

Plus, Square still makes new games. You list Kingdom Hearts on your chart, but that was an original PS2 series thats Square has supported up to a number 3. Sequels aren't bad. You should be happy. I love Bio-Ware and they down right refuse to do a sequel to games that they make. KOTOR got game of the year on sites and sold well. Jade Empire will probably never ever get a sequel. Mass Effect 2... like 4 years away at the earliest. I wish every company was like Square because i'd be playing:

Conker's Bad Fur Day 2, Sonic 4, Jet Force Gemini 2, Perfect Dark 2, Streets of Rage 4, Chrono Trigger 3 (wtf are they waiting for), Kotor 3, non-crappy Kotor 2, Jet Set Radio Future 2, Shenmue 3, etc and a ton of other games that i've just had to resign myself to the fact that despite the original being good and selling well, these game worlds are dead, never to be seen again.

Everyone swears up and down that thats an awesome thing. But it isn't. It really isn't. Its a bandwagon phrase thats based off of no type of reality at all.

Are they really though? Would a PS3 remake of FFI or II or III really be the same game? It might be the same story but the experience as a whole is different.DireToad

Same characters, same story, same gameplay. Its a remake. You can't exactly alter it by any signifcant means. Plus a JRPGS main draw is a story.

LMAO. You act like Square will force you to buy 100 version of Final Fantasy 1. Its your money. They aren't making these for people who have already played the game, beaten it and are tired of it. They make them for people who never played them in the past.

Plus, Square still makes new games. You list Kingdom Hearts on your chart, but that was an original PS2 series thats Square has supported up to a number 3. Sequels aren't bad. You should be happy. I love Bio-Ware and they down right refuse to do a sequel to games that they make. KOTOR got game of the year on sites and sold well. Jade Empire will probably never ever get a sequel. Mass Effect 2... like 4 years away at the earliest. I wish every company was like Square because i'd be playing:

Conker's Bad Fur Day 2, Sonic 4, Jet Force Gemini 2, Perfect Dark 2, Streets of Rage 4, Chrono Trigger 3 (wtf are they waiting for), Kotor 3, non-crappy Kotor 2, Jet Set Radio Future 2, Shenmue 3, etc and a ton of other games that i've just had to resign myself to the fact that despite the original being good and selling well, these game worlds are dead, never to be seen again.

Everyone swears up and down that thats an awesome thing. But it isn't. It really isn't. Its a bandwagon phrase thats based off of no type of reality at all.

Senor_Kami

Where are my Sequels? Where is my Vagrant Story 2? Chrono 3? ect? I'm not getting sequels I'm getting spinoffs.

You wish every company was like Square? Releasing more games from generations prior generations then sequels? More spinoffs currently then Mario, Megaman, and Sonic combined?

Don't even call them Square. They are not Square. They are Square Enix.

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="6matt6"]

Square will remake more games?

Seriously remaking is popular now-a-days. They remade Halloween, now they're remaking Nightmare on Elm Street and Friday the 13th. Hell even the new Batman movies (as amazing as they are) are some sort of remake.

Point being remakes being successful spawns more remakes.

6matt6

The newest Halloween was more a prequel then anything. And the new Batman movies are considered reboots.

Well yeah Rob Zombie called it a 're-imagining' or whatever. He can call it whatever he wishes. The movie was still a terrible atrocity.

I got it for my Dad for Christmas and I still haven't watched it. I refuse too.

[QUOTE="6matt6"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="6matt6"]

Square will remake more games?

Seriously remaking is popular now-a-days. They remade Halloween, now they're remaking Nightmare on Elm Street and Friday the 13th. Hell even the new Batman movies (as amazing as they are) are some sort of remake.

Point being remakes being successful spawns more remakes.

Dark_Knight6

The newest Halloween was more a prequel then anything. And the new Batman movies are considered reboots.

Well yeah Rob Zombie called it a 're-imagining' or whatever. He can call it whatever he wishes. The movie was still a terrible atrocity.

I got it for my Dad for Christmas and I still haven't watched it. I refuse too.

Its terrible. You should watch it just to find out how terrible it really is.

[QUOTE="darthogre"]All of the above is fanboy talk. A remake is not going to be a system seller. It would have to be revolutionary. randar23rhenn

unfortunately, you do not = millions of customers

Their idea of system seller is laughable. FF13 would be a system seller. Regardless of FFVII looking good, it's still the same game. There are not surprises and that is what made me love that game. Playing it over with a graphics upgrade would be cool, but I am not going to pay $460 to do it......that is essentially what they are saying people would be willing to pay to play that game.

IMO VII is a terrible game. I still can't understand (or stand) the legions of fans this game has. I wouldn't mind it if they remade VI though. That I would buy. sleepingzzz

[QUOTE="randar23rhenn"][QUOTE="darthogre"]All of the above is fanboy talk. A remake is not going to be a system seller. It would have to be revolutionary. darthogre

unfortunately, you do not = millions of customers

Their idea of system seller is laughable. FF13 would be a system seller. Regardless of FFVII looking good, it's still the same game. There are not surprises and that is what made me love that game. Playing it over with a graphics upgrade would be cool, but I am not going to pay $460 to do it......that is essentially what they are saying people would be willing to pay to play that game.

[QUOTE="darthogre"]

[QUOTE="randar23rhenn"][QUOTE="darthogre"]All of the above is fanboy talk. A remake is not going to be a system seller. It would have to be revolutionary. randar23rhenn

unfortunately, you do not = millions of customers

Their idea of system seller is laughable. FF13 would be a system seller. Regardless of FFVII looking good, it's still the same game. There are not surprises and that is what made me love that game. Playing it over with a graphics upgrade would be cool, but I am not going to pay $460 to do it......that is essentially what they are saying people would be willing to pay to play that game.

I actually started with that game and I would only buy it because I own a PS3 right now. If I didn't, I would not feel I needed the PS3 just for that game. I would take a new epic story over an old epic story, but that is me.

Too bad you couldn't go back in time to make a poll thread to ask if PS3 owners would like to have FFVII remake or FF13 exclusive.......there is no doubt in my mind it would have been FF13 because it's a new game. New games will sell a console better than an 15 year old game.

[QUOTE="6matt6"]Hell even the new Batman movies (as amazing as they are) are some sort of remake. randar23rhenn

:| its a reboot to the batman franchise = remake

SE will see that it can actually survive soley by playing off of the nostalgia of its fans and cease making original IPs and titles.Verge_6

The Slurpers will continue to suck down any and everything Square Enix feeds to them. Its what they do. We shouldn't be encouraging this.